On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:21:17 -0400, aemeijers
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 8:47 PM, mm wrote:
(snip)

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?


Look up 'Vitamin D'.

That's got to be some after-the-fact "fix". I"m going to the source
of the problem. I'm writing the UN tonight to get everyone to move.

DGDevin wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

What is your alternative?

* Vote for the PERSON not the party? In the last election, in my
county, there were over 700 names on the ballots. With only six
months between the primary and the general election, that was
woefully insufficient time to research the platforms, promises,
experience, friends, and dog ownership of those 700 people.

But then you'll turn around and rattle off the stats of your favorite
ball players or the details of your local sports team's championship
seasons with little effort. So it isn't that you're incapable of
doing your homework, it's that you're selective about what you'll put
time into.

Your point is well-taken, but your example is off. I regard professional
sports as the male equivalent of the day-time soap opera: a new conflict
every episode, players come and go, there's never any resolution because
there's always "wait until next year! (or next century in the case of the
Red Sox).


It probably isn't necessary to spend a lot of time researching the
platform of the womyn from the Interplanetary Peace Party, but if you
can't explain the differences between the leading candidates then
clearly you don't take your vote very seriously. If you don't know
who wants the city to offer tax breaks to some billionaire who wants
to build a new arena for his pro sports team and who doesn't, then
don't complain later when your taxes go up.

Just because I didn't vote for those who make the decisions, doesn't mean I
don't have a legitimate complaint about taxes. I only get to vote for three
of the 535 members of Congress.

* Vote for a candidate's race, heritage (does his name end with the
letter "O"), or sex? Some did that in the last election, at some
cost, I might add.

For every person who voted for someone because they're of the same
race, there's another guy who voted against him because there's no
way he wants one of them in the White House.

Interesting hypothesis. Have you any proof of that astounding assertion? I
mean it's not like the Law of Conservation of Apostrophes.


That you apparently
only have a problem with one half of that equation is not to your
credit.

If you're implying I detest our current president because he's black, you
not only are wrong but you've fallen into the progressive mindset of
"anybody who opposes Barak Obama is, ipso facto, a scurrilous racist and
needs to be killed!"

On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...


I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.


It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

TDD

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:06:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...


I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.


It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

I don't know. Sounds like a lot of liberal gobbledy-gook to me.

My letter to the UN is half-way finished. I think I can be done by
tomorrow.

TDD

On Mar 21, 12:47*pm, "
wrote:
On Mar 21, 7:28*am, "HeyBub" wrote:





DGDevin wrote:
"HeyBub" *wrote in message
om...

Turkey and Indonesia are democracies with a combined population of
over 300 million, but don't let that fact get in the way of your
dogma.

Not dogma, fact.

He wrote:

"Aram / muslim countries
can't evolve or maintain any sort of democracy or democratic form of
gov't or a society that obeys any sort of legal framework or impartial
court system."

I just named two Muslim countries that are in fact democracies, so
he's wrong about Muslim nations being unable to operate as
democracies, it's that simple. *It's also unavoidable that however
much we dislike the legal code under which some Muslim nations
operate, it is a legal code and thus it makes no sense to say they
don't have one. *Maybe you don't like the designated hitter rule, but
that wouldn't justify you in saying MLB has no rules.

There are 50 other predominately Muslim countries that are
Theocracies (Iran, most of Afghanistan), Monarchies (Saudi Arabia,
Jordan), Oligarchies (Egypt), Thugocracies (Tunisia, Lybia), or
out-and-out Anarchies (Sudan, Somalia). Combined, they encompass
about 1 billion souls.

There are (and have been) plenty of countries with tyrannical
governments, and if you read your history you'll discover that many
of them have got along just fine with Uncle Sam so long as they kept
the natural resources flowing and cooperated with U.S. foreign
policy. *Greece is a democracy *today* but it's had its share of
military coups. *South Africa is a democracy *today* but as I'm sure
you remember there was a day when only a small fraction of its
citizens had the vote. *Latin America and South America are full of
nations that are democracies *today* but which not long ago were run
by military juntas that Washington thought were doing a fine job. And of
course some of those oppressive Arab states are allies of the
U.S., it seems America isn't too picky about that. *Some of the
former satellites and republics of the Soviet Union are democracies,
some are in name only--so apparently there are other factors than the
percentage of Muslims in the population determining how that works
out. Hell, the nation with the biggest population on earth is mostly
non-Muslim and it sure isn't a democracy, so it seems religion isn't
the key factor in determining what kind of govt. a nation ends up
with.
America seems to have a problem with oppressive governments only when
they don't cooperate with America. *Iran once had an elected
democratic govt., but once it started to mess with western oil
profits it was bye-bye elected government, hello U.S.-British backed
coup and our new pal the Shah. *And look where that lead.

So don't be too quick to blame Islam for all those jacked-up Islamic
nations. *Some of those nations are a mess in large part because
western colonial powers drew arbitrary lines on maps and created new
nations full of ethnic tensions,

Typical. *Blame it all on the USA and "colonial powers". *Like those
ethnic tensions have not been there for hundreds or thousands of
years, long before the USA ever got involved. * *In fact, it seems
countries
*with ethnic tensions do best when they have a dictator running the
place,
*something many of those places seem to prefer. *Take the dictator
out and then they run amuck ala Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan....who's next?
Libya?

or because the west supported
oppressive regimes which made themselves useful.

Implying that it would have been better if it were an oppressive
regime not supported by the USA. *Like perhaps North Korea?
Uganda under Idi Amin?

*Islamophobia is a
cop-out, and people who use it are usually pig-ignorant of the facts.

The fact is that the world today has a major problem with terrorists
driven by extremist interpreation of one religion: *Muslim * That's
the
*fact, yet some people, including our president and attorney general
*can't even accept that
or state it. * Eric Holder was asked in testimony before the Senate
if any of the recent terrorist attacks were motivated by extremist
Muslim religion. *The senator listed *Ft. Hood, the underwear bomber,
*Times Square, etc. *Despite asking about 7 times if Muslim religion
played any role, Holder refused to
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Since the end of empire and colonies, Africa and Asia are returning to
their normal state of corruption, piracy, genocide, poverty and
barbarism.
There were never enough white men there and/or for long enough.
In the places where there were, we have a degree of civilisation.

On Mar 21, 4:20*pm, "DGDevin" wrote:
"mm" *wrote in messagenews:g10eo6p2bpmh8lcpfhlkcc3cij21iml45u@4ax .com....
Someone else claimed she had no principles because she had changed her
position, since she was once conservative. *I think if anything, that
means she has principles, just different from her old ones.

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've had to
change my views on some things after giving them a lot of thought. *Evolve
or die seems to be one way to look at it. *Of course some people don't
believe in evolution.

Especially in America. Glad to see some logical thinking.

On Mar 21, 4:50*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 11:10 AM, DGDevin wrote:



"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I hate to burst your bigoted bubble there DG but there are Democrats I
actually like and gay people don't bother me just because they're gay
anymore than someone who is heterosexual.

Good for you, seriously. On the other hand the GOP has used the threat
of gay marriage to drum up lots of votes, so apparently some folks
aren't quite so enlightened.

The problem I have with The GOP is the fact that religious wackos seem
to have taken over the party. You don't have to be pious to possess
morals. I have no problem with gay men marrying gay women. When two
people of the same gender get married, how in the hell do you tell which
is the husband and which is the wife? ^_^

Inappropriate "public" behavior by either group does bother me.

Like smoking in a theatre?

Having sex in the public square or deep tonguing each other in front of
anyone who may be offended by such behavior when they know it will.

Of course you may be a Liberal
freak and could never understand something like propriety. ^_^

I'm a liberal like you're a ballet dancer.

Funny thing about that, I did a lot of ballet exercises when I studied
and practiced Karate. It gave me a reason to respect ballet dancers as
extreme athletes. Those fellows you see dancing with the girls in tutus
aren't necessarily sissies. If you tease one of them, you might get your
ears boxed with ballet slippers still attached to a coupe of feet. :-)

TDD

Like this Duf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxPULL1isw

On Mar 21, 10:54*pm, "DGDevin" wrote:
"HeyBub" *wrote in message

m...

Thank you for the corrections. I may have had the facts wrong, but the
narrative was correct.

Heh, thanks for the laugh.

He usually has his facts wrong. The narrative is where he invents
them.
They constantly change too.

On Mar 22, 12:47*am, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas





wrote:
On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.



TDD- Hide quoted text -

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The melamine in the skin protects from the harmful effects of solar
radiation. Which is why they need to send black guys into the Japanese
nuke to fix things up. :-) Oh, that's not solar.

On Mar 22, 4:06*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:





On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
*wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.

It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Heh Heh. If you go to certain countries in the ME, the local women
walk round on the shady side of the street and carry a magazine to
hold up to shade them selves from the sun when they walk in the sun,
ie, trying to get white. (This is the reason for burkhas BTW.)
In the same place you see white women tourists lying on the beach
trying to get brown.
Which all goes to show that there's no pleasing women.

On 3/22/2011 3:00 AM, harry wrote:
On Mar 21, 4:50 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 11:10 AM, DGDevin wrote:



"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I hate to burst your bigoted bubble there DG but there are Democrats I
actually like and gay people don't bother me just because they're gay
anymore than someone who is heterosexual.

Good for you, seriously. On the other hand the GOP has used the threat
of gay marriage to drum up lots of votes, so apparently some folks
aren't quite so enlightened.

The problem I have with The GOP is the fact that religious wackos seem
to have taken over the party. You don't have to be pious to possess
morals. I have no problem with gay men marrying gay women. When two
people of the same gender get married, how in the hell do you tell which
is the husband and which is the wife? ^_^

Inappropriate "public" behavior by either group does bother me.

Like smoking in a theatre?

Having sex in the public square or deep tonguing each other in front of
anyone who may be offended by such behavior when they know it will.

Of course you may be a Liberal
freak and could never understand something like propriety. ^_^

I'm a liberal like you're a ballet dancer.

Funny thing about that, I did a lot of ballet exercises when I studied
and practiced Karate. It gave me a reason to respect ballet dancers as
extreme athletes. Those fellows you see dancing with the girls in tutus
aren't necessarily sissies. If you tease one of them, you might get your
ears boxed with ballet slippers still attached to a coupe of feet. :-)

TDD

Like this Duf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxPULL1isw

Um, Harry, is this another one of those odd British predilections of
voyeurism? o_O

TDD

On 3/22/2011 12:33 AM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:06:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...


I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.


It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

I don't know. Sounds like a lot of liberal gobbledy-gook to me.

My letter to the UN is half-way finished. I think I can be done by
tomorrow.


mm my friend, I grew out of Liberalism many years ago, that's why I'm
so grouchy. HEY, YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!! ^_^

TDD

On 3/22/2011 3:08 AM, harry wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:47 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas





wrote:
On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.



TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The melamine in the skin protects from the harmful effects of solar
radiation. Which is why they need to send black guys into the Japanese
nuke to fix things up. :-) Oh, that's not solar.

Harry, I hope you don't have any "melamine" in your skin, if you did,
you'd be in serious medical trouble right now. :-(

TDD

On 3/22/2011 3:14 AM, harry wrote:
On Mar 22, 4:06 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:





On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.

It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Heh Heh. If you go to certain countries in the ME, the local women
walk round on the shady side of the street and carry a magazine to
hold up to shade them selves from the sun when they walk in the sun,
ie, trying to get white. (This is the reason for burkhas BTW.)
In the same place you see white women tourists lying on the beach
trying to get brown.
Which all goes to show that there's no pleasing women.

Sun exposure causes wrinkled skin too. When I worked out in The Pacific
at a missile test range, there was a young woman working there who lived
in the sun and a bikini. Her skin looked like leather and even
though she was in her late 20's or early 30's, she had the skin of a
70 year old farmer. :-(

TDD

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...


I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

Um, monkeys are evolving, they're known as Democrats. ROTFLMAO

TDD

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:51:24 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/22/2011 12:33 AM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:06:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...


I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.


It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

I don't know. Sounds like a lot of liberal gobbledy-gook to me.

My letter to the UN is half-way finished. I think I can be done by
tomorrow.


mm my friend, I grew out of Liberalism many years ago, that's why I'm
so grouchy. HEY, YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!! ^_^

I'm glad you brought this up. I can still add this kids on the lawn
problem to my letter to the UN. (I have it too.)

TDD

On Mar 22, 10:47*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/22/2011 3:00 AM, harry wrote:





On Mar 21, 4:50 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 11:10 AM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I hate to burst your bigoted bubble there DG but there are Democrats I
actually like and gay people don't bother me just because they're gay
anymore than someone who is heterosexual.

Good for you, seriously. On the other hand the GOP has used the threat
of gay marriage to drum up lots of votes, so apparently some folks
aren't quite so enlightened.

The problem I have with The GOP is the fact that religious wackos seem
to have taken over the party. You don't have to be pious to possess
morals. I have no problem with gay men marrying gay women. When two
people of the same gender get married, how in the hell do you tell which
is the husband and which is the wife? ^_^

Inappropriate "public" behavior by either group does bother me.

Like smoking in a theatre?

Having sex in the public square or deep tonguing each other in front of
anyone who may be offended by such behavior when they know it will.

Of course you may be a Liberal
freak and could never understand something like propriety. ^_^

I'm a liberal like you're a ballet dancer.

Funny thing about that, I did a lot of ballet exercises when I studied
and practiced Karate. It gave me a reason to respect ballet dancers as
extreme athletes. Those fellows you see dancing with the girls in tutus
aren't necessarily sissies. If you tease one of them, you might get your
ears boxed with ballet slippers still attached to a coupe of feet. :-)

TDD

Like this Duf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxPULL1isw

Um, Harry, is this another one of those odd British predilections of
voyeurism? o_O

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Just thought a man of your wit and artistic interests might appreciate
that one. Heh Heh:-)

On Mar 22, 10:54*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/22/2011 3:08 AM, harry wrote:





On Mar 22, 12:47 am, *wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas

*wrote:
On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.

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The melamine in the skin protects from the harmful effects of solar
radiation. Which is why they need to send black guys into the Japanese
nuke to fix things up. * :-) *Oh, that's not solar.

Harry, I hope you don't have any "melamine" in your skin, if you did,
you'd be in serious medical trouble right now. :-(

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Naw.White skin,blue eyes.I need to keep out of the sun,I burn very
easily.

On Mar 22, 10:59*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/22/2011 3:14 AM, harry wrote:





On Mar 22, 4:06 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
* *wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.

It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures.
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

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Heh Heh. If you go to certain countries in the ME, the local women
walk round on the shady side of the street and carry a magazine to
hold up to shade them selves from the sun when they walk in the sun,
ie, trying to get white. *(This is the reason for burkhas BTW.)
In the same place you see white women tourists lying on the beach
trying to get brown.
Which all goes to show that there's no pleasing women.

Sun exposure causes wrinkled skin too. When I worked out in The Pacific
at a missile test range, there was a young woman working there who lived
in the sun and a bikini. Her skin looked like leather and even
though she was in her late 20's or early 30's, she had the skin of a
70 year old farmer. :-(

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Ah. Seen similar on theTV. The women from California.
This is why English women have the peaches and cream look. (Don't see
as much sun. here)
When I was in Iraq,the trendy women ther used to apply makeup to try
and get the same look. There were several woman in our group, they
used to get evily jealous looks from the local women apparently. I
never noticed until my wife remarked.

On Mar 22, 4:02*pm, mm wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:51:24 -0500, The Daring Dufas





wrote:
On 3/22/2011 12:33 AM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:06:20 -0500, The Daring Dufas
*wrote:

On 3/21/2011 7:47 PM, mm wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas
* wrote:

On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example..
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.

It's this little thing known as melanin which gives skin its dark color
which protects the skin from the Sun's harmful UV rays. The darker the
skin, the better protected you are from UV radiation. Pale skinned
humans get all the vitamin D they need by exposing their face and hands
to the Sun but our very dark skinned cousins have to take vitamin D
supplements to stay healthy if they move to a part of the world where
it's not a good idea to expose your skin to sub-freezing temperatures..
Besides, dark objects cool off quicker than light objects when the
source of radiant heat is removed. ^_^

I don't know. *Sounds like a lot of liberal gobbledy-gook to me.

My letter to the UN is half-way finished. *I think I can be done by
tomorrow.

mm my friend, I grew out of Liberalism many years ago, that's why I'm
so grouchy. HEY, YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!!! *^_^

I'm glad you brought this up. *I can still add this kids on the lawn
problem to my letter to the UN. * (I have it too.)



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I thought trespassers got shot?

On 3/22/2011 2:24 PM, harry wrote:
On Mar 22, 10:47 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/22/2011 3:00 AM, harry wrote:





On Mar 21, 4:50 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 11:10 AM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I hate to burst your bigoted bubble there DG but there are Democrats I
actually like and gay people don't bother me just because they're gay
anymore than someone who is heterosexual.

Good for you, seriously. On the other hand the GOP has used the threat
of gay marriage to drum up lots of votes, so apparently some folks
aren't quite so enlightened.

The problem I have with The GOP is the fact that religious wackos seem
to have taken over the party. You don't have to be pious to possess
morals. I have no problem with gay men marrying gay women. When two
people of the same gender get married, how in the hell do you tell which
is the husband and which is the wife? ^_^

Inappropriate "public" behavior by either group does bother me.

Like smoking in a theatre?

Having sex in the public square or deep tonguing each other in front of
anyone who may be offended by such behavior when they know it will.

Of course you may be a Liberal
freak and could never understand something like propriety. ^_^

I'm a liberal like you're a ballet dancer.

Funny thing about that, I did a lot of ballet exercises when I studied
and practiced Karate. It gave me a reason to respect ballet dancers as
extreme athletes. Those fellows you see dancing with the girls in tutus
aren't necessarily sissies. If you tease one of them, you might get your
ears boxed with ballet slippers still attached to a coupe of feet. :-)

TDD

Like this Duf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxPULL1isw

Um, Harry, is this another one of those odd British predilections of
voyeurism? o_O

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Just thought a man of your wit and artistic interests might appreciate
that one. Heh Heh:-)

I understand that when you gotta go you gotta go. ^_^

TDD

On 3/22/2011 2:26 PM, harry wrote:
On Mar 22, 10:54 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/22/2011 3:08 AM, harry wrote:





On Mar 22, 12:47 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas

wrote:
On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.

TDD- Hide quoted text -

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The melamine in the skin protects from the harmful effects of solar
radiation. Which is why they need to send black guys into the Japanese
nuke to fix things up. :-) Oh, that's not solar.

Harry, I hope you don't have any "melamine" in your skin, if you did,
you'd be in serious medical trouble right now. :-(

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Naw.White skin,blue eyes.I need to keep out of the sun,I burn very
easily.

"melamine" noun:

A white crystalline organic base; used mainly in making melamine resins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine

TDD

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:54:28 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/22/2011 3:08 AM, harry wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:47 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas





wrote:
On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.



TDD- Hide quoted text -

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The melamine in the skin protects from the harmful effects of solar
radiation. Which is why they need to send black guys into the Japanese
nuke to fix things up. :-) Oh, that's not solar.

Harry, I hope you don't have any "melamine" in your skin, if you did,
you'd be in serious medical trouble right now. :-(

That's that stuff some plant managers used in China to increase the
pretein level while making some food poisonous, right.

TDD

On 3/22/2011 6:06 PM, mm wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:54:28 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/22/2011 3:08 AM, harry wrote:
On Mar 22, 12:47 am, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:11:38 -0500, The Daring Dufas





wrote:
On 3/21/2011 6:01 PM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I've been quite conservative on most issues for a long time, but I've
had to change my views on some things after giving them a lot of
thought. Evolve or die seems to be one way to look at it. Of course some
people don't believe in evolution.

You mean to tell me that y'alls ancestors was them dang monkeys?

That dingbat Tea Potter Christine O'Donnell says she knows evolution
isn't real because if it was real then monkeys would still be evolving
into humans and that isn't happening. So it would appear some of us
evolved, and others got in the wrong line.

I do believe genetic researchers have determined that we Homo sapiens
are the descendants of 10,000 or fewer mating pairs from Central Africa
something like 70,000 years ago. We're all from Africa and us White
folks are the mutants. ^_^

I never understood why white people live in Scandinavia, for example.
Wouldn't they be warmer if they were dark and absorbed more heat from
the sun?

And why do dark people live near the equator, where it's hot?
Wouldn't they be cooler if they were light and reflected more heat.



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- Show quoted text -

The melamine in the skin protects from the harmful effects of solar
radiation. Which is why they need to send black guys into the Japanese
nuke to fix things up. :-) Oh, that's not solar.

Harry, I hope you don't have any "melamine" in your skin, if you did,
you'd be in serious medical trouble right now. :-(

That's that stuff some plant managers used in China to increase the
pretein level while making some food poisonous, right.


I must assume you're referring to the 2008 Chinese Milk Scandal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Ch..._contamination

http://tinyurl.com/4qllnwd

The word is "protein" not "pretein" which looks too much like "preteen"
which describes sometimes horrid, noisy creatures. ^_^

TDD

On 3/19/2011 7:12 PM, mm wrote:
A) Libya.

What I don't understand is that Libya isn't one of the top oil exporters
and our (US) gas prices are increasing daily.

On Mar 23, 2:56*am, Cheryl wrote:
On 3/19/2011 7:12 PM, mm wrote:

A) Libya.

What I don't understand is that Libya isn't one of the top oil exporters
and our (US) gas prices are increasing daily.

It's has little to do with production. Oil prices are rising due to
speculators. Other oil producers have promised to increase
production.
These are the same *******s that buggered up the worlds' economy.
Republicans to a man.

It only takes a small shortfall (even if imaginary) to hugely increase
prices on life's neccesities.

harry wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:56 am, Cheryl wrote:
On 3/19/2011 7:12 PM, mm wrote:

A) Libya.

What I don't understand is that Libya isn't one of the top oil
exporters and our (US) gas prices are increasing daily.

It's has little to do with production. Oil prices are rising due to
speculators. Other oil producers have promised to increase
production.
These are the same *******s that buggered up the worlds' economy.
Republicans to a man.

It only takes a small shortfall (even if imaginary) to hugely increase
prices on life's neccesities.

Only in capitalist countries. If the price of crude goes up, the gas station
owner has to have enough cash to cover his next delivery of 15,000 gallons.
So he raises his prices immediately to be able to buy his next load of
product. Hence the "Rocket up" notion of increased prices.

If the price of crude goes down, the gas station owner lowers his prices to
meet the competition. This technique is known as the "Feather down" process
on gas prices.

As I said, this happens only in capitalistic economies. Where the government
controls the supply of fuel, prices do not show such volatility. Think Iran
or Venezuela.

Or Pennsylvania liquor stores.

On Mar 23, 11:43*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:56 am, Cheryl wrote:
On 3/19/2011 7:12 PM, mm wrote:

A) Libya.

What I don't understand is that Libya isn't one of the top oil
exporters and our (US) gas prices are increasing daily.

It's has little to do with production. *Oil prices are rising due to
speculators. *Other oil producers have promised to increase
production.
These are the same *******s that buggered up the worlds' economy.
Republicans to a man.

It only takes a small shortfall (even if imaginary) to hugely increase
prices on life's neccesities.

Only in capitalist countries. If the price of crude goes up, the gas station
owner has to have enough cash to cover his next delivery of 15,000 gallons.
So he raises his prices immediately to be able to buy his next load of
product. Hence the "Rocket up" notion of increased prices.

If the price of crude goes down, the gas station owner lowers his prices to
meet the competition. This technique is known as the "Feather down" process
on gas prices.

As I said, this happens only in capitalistic economies. Where the government
controls the supply of fuel, prices do not show such volatility. Think Iran
or Venezuela.

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Yes, think of Venezuela where petrol is less than twenty cents a
gallon.
In capitalist countries fuel prices are contolled by taxation.

harry wrote:

Yes, think of Venezuela where petrol is less than twenty cents a
gallon.
In capitalist countries fuel prices are contolled by taxation.

Latest numbers for Venezuela are around twelve cents per gallon.

The U.S.? $3.45. (#101)

And the UK? $8.38 (#3)

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...


You make some valid points - there are certainly non-muslim tyrannical
regimes (California comes to mind).

Haw! Free elections every four years, that you don't like the outcomes
doesn't make it tyranny. Why is when you right-wingers win an election you
cheer the will of the people, but when you lose an election you cry tyranny?

Still, if one gives credence to the notion: "In recent times, one cannot
say all Muslims are terrorists, but one CAN say all terrorists are
Muslims,"

Only if one is an imbecile.

Would you care to guess which ethnic/religious group has committed more acts
of terrorism on U.S. soil than any other? The answer is Hispanic, in large
part because of the activities of Puerto Rican nationalist groups. Guess
which group is in the number two spot. Jews. Yup, the Jewish Defense
League and similar groups have committed enough acts the law considers
terrorism to be in second place. Wonder who is in third: Muslims, white
supremacists, eco-terrorists?

There is, however, hope. Malaysia is coming along nicely. Iraq has the
ability and the will to persist in a representative government.

LOL, if you ignore that the Kurds already consider themselves a separate
nation and the Sunnis and the Shias hate each other--but other than that
it's working out splendidly.

We've yet to see how Egypt turns out, but it has strong possibilities.

I'm not saying Islam *in some forms* isn't a problem. Frankly the whole
religion needs something like The Enlightenment to catch up with the 21st
century. But when you consider the religiously-inspired nonsense many
fundamentalist Christians spout in America, we have to make some allowances
for people in places where they went straight from colonial status with no
elected representation to a nation run by whoever American and British
corporations wanted in charge. For us now to complain that Bumfukistan
isn't a democracy when American policy for decades was happy to keep it that
way is kind of hypocritical. Overthrowing an elected government in a place
like Iran because it tries to nationalize the oil fields apparently wasn't
quite the bright idea they thought it was at the time, so now we pay the
price for installing and supporting a despot.

Then, too, we've seen that "hope" is not a strategy; regrettably, we must
kill great numbers of people in order to save them.

It's precisely that attitude which creates more trouble down the road. The
people in those countries where the U.S. has propped up various thugs and
dictators over the decades have long memories. If you think they haven't
figured out that all you really care about is their oil (or minerals, or
agricultural products, or strategic location) then you're only fooling
yourself. Wondering why they hate America when America was the sugar daddy
behind the tyrant whose secret police dragged off their kids for forty years
(as in Egypt) really takes a special form of mental density.

wrote in message
...


Typical. Blame it all on the USA and "colonial powers".

Typical, failure to understand the point and then act as if colonial powers
never did one wrong thing.

Like those
ethnic tensions have not been there for hundreds or thousands of
years, long before the USA ever got involved.

Of course they've been there for hundreds of years, which is why it was such
a stupid idea for nations like France and Britain to draw a line on a map
and announce that two (or three or four) ethnic groups that hate each other
are all now citizens of one new nation. Because that's exactly what
happened in places like Iraq, the Brits and the French literally traded
chunks of territory to assemble a nation that from a cultural viewpoint
didn't really exist. Does that seem like it was a good idea in your
opinion?

In fact, it seems countries with ethnic tensions do best when they have
a dictator running the
place, something many of those places seem to prefer. Take the dictator
out and then they run amuck ala Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan....who's next?
Libya?

"Do best" translating to cooperating with the interests of America and other
major western powers. So long as they keep the oil pumping, who cares about
the secret police and no free elections and a controlled press and so on.
So America has a list of things America supposedly stands for--freedom being
at the top--and then America supports brutal dictators in places like
Nicaragua and the Philippines and Egypt and Iran and Chile and so on and so
forth, and then America wonders why the people in those nations harbor hard
feeling towards the good old US of A. Yeah, that's a real puzzler, isn't
it.

or because the west supported
oppressive regimes which made themselves useful.

Implying that it would have been better if it were an oppressive
regime not supported by the USA. Like perhaps North Korea?
Uganda under Idi Amin?

Implying no such thing. Feel free to disagree with what I post, but don't
make up **** I didn't write and respond to that instead, okay?

Islamophobia is a
cop-out, and people who use it are usually pig-ignorant of the facts.

The fact is that the world today has a major problem with terrorists
driven by extremist interpreation of one religion: Muslim

The name of the religion is Islam, not Muslim. A Muslim is an adherent of
Islam.

But at least you agree that it is Muslim *extremists* who are the problem,
not the hundreds of millions of Muslims who have no interest in strapping on
a suicide vest. There have been similar problems with American terrorists
like Tim McVeigh, and the Aryan Nations, the Jewish Defense League, and
abortion clinic bombers, and the Earth Liberation Front and so on--all
true-blue Americans, and all terrorists according to the FBI. Imagine that,
extremists come in all flavors, who knew?

"harry" wrote in message
...


Since the end of empire and colonies, Africa and Asia are returning to
their normal state of corruption, piracy, genocide, poverty and
barbarism.
There were never enough white men there and/or for long enough.
In the places where there were, we have a degree of civilisation.

So in addition to all your other charming characteristics, you're a racist
as well. What a surprise. On the other hand, who cares--it's not like you
were ever going to post anything worth reading.

"mm" wrote in message ...


I don't know. Sounds like a lot of liberal gobbledy-gook to me.


Millions of Americans have a very similar reaction to science.

In article ,
"DGDevin" wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...


You make some valid points - there are certainly non-muslim tyrannical
regimes (California comes to mind).

Haw! Free elections every four years, that you don't like the outcomes
doesn't make it tyranny. Why is when you right-wingers win an election you
cheer the will of the people, but when you lose an election you cry tyranny?
A long-standing bipartisan tradition. Although recently the Dems have
taken to question the intelligence of the electorate when they lose.

..

--
"Even I realized that money was to politicians what the ecalyptus tree is to koala bears: food, water, shelter and something to crap on."
---PJ O'Rourke

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
m...


Haw! Free elections every four years, that you don't like the outcomes
doesn't make it tyranny. Why is when you right-wingers win an election
you
cheer the will of the people, but when you lose an election you cry
tyranny?

A long-standing bipartisan tradition. Although recently the Dems have
taken to question the intelligence of the electorate when they lose.

In the case of whoever voted for Michelle Bachmann there is good reason to
question their intelligence.

harry wrote:
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Since the end of empire and colonies, Africa and Asia are returning to
their normal state of corruption, piracy, genocide, poverty and
barbarism.
There were never enough white men there and/or for long enough.
In the places where there were, we have a degree of civilisation.

That's simply not true. The British and the French were in the Muslim lands
for more than two generations. They set up complete civil societies -
schools, courts, legislative bodies, the entire apparatus of government.
They instituted the rule of law.

When the French and British left, the lands quickly regressed to mayhem. You
can't blame the lack of white men on the current situations - it has to be
the overabundance of Mohammadens.

Consider the case of India. When India was granted independence in August of
1947, it split into two countries: India proper, and Pakistan. Today, India
is the world's largest democracy and Pakistan is the only know hole above
ground.

DGDevin wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
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You make some valid points - there are certainly non-muslim
tyrannical regimes (California comes to mind).

Haw! Free elections every four years, that you don't like the
outcomes doesn't make it tyranny. Why is when you right-wingers win
an election you cheer the will of the people, but when you lose an
election you cry tyranny?

Huh? We cry tyranny when we WIN an election. Just last week the mayor of
Miami (a Republican) was recalled from office with 79% of the vote
(including ALL Republicans) when he raised local taxes.

But I wasn't referring to specific party loyalties - I meant more of how the
civil government functions. Regulations out the kazoo, taxes, restrictions
of every kind.


Still, if one gives credence to the notion: "In recent times, one
cannot say all Muslims are terrorists, but one CAN say all
terrorists are Muslims,"

Only if one is an imbecile.

Would you care to guess which ethnic/religious group has committed
more acts of terrorism on U.S. soil than any other? The answer is
Hispanic, in large part because of the activities of Puerto Rican
nationalist groups. Guess which group is in the number two spot. Jews.
Yup, the Jewish Defense League and similar groups have
committed enough acts the law considers terrorism to be in second
place. Wonder who is in third: Muslims, white supremacists,
eco-terrorists?

If you sub-select with a fine-enough comb in order to bolster your point,
you could probably say that the greatest number of terrorist acts in
Allegheny County, Pennsylvania were committed by members of the Whiskey
Rebellion in 1791.


I'm not saying Islam *in some forms* isn't a problem. Frankly the
whole religion needs something like The Enlightenment to catch up
with the 21st century.

Yep. The Muslims are in the middle of their own "Dark Ages." Give 'em 500 to
1000 years, and they might catch up with the west.

But when you consider the
religiously-inspired nonsense many fundamentalist Christians spout in
America, we have to make some allowances for people in places where
they went straight from colonial status with no elected
representation to a nation run by whoever American and British
corporations wanted in charge.

Actually, I don't even think about religiously-inspired nonsense.

Then, too, we've seen that "hope" is not a strategy; regrettably, we
must kill great numbers of people in order to save them.

It's precisely that attitude which creates more trouble down the
road. The people in those countries where the U.S. has propped up
various thugs and dictators over the decades have long memories. If
you think they haven't figured out that all you really care about is
their oil (or minerals, or agricultural products, or strategic
location) then you're only fooling yourself. Wondering why they hate
America when America was the sugar daddy behind the tyrant whose
secret police dragged off their kids for forty years (as in Egypt)
really takes a special form of mental density.

Psst! They will NEVER love us, no matter what we do. And we have had
successes. Panama. Grenada. New Orleans.

On Mar 24, 12:13*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote:

Yes, think of Venezuela where petrol is less than twenty cents a
gallon.
In capitalist countries fuel prices are contolled by taxation.

Latest numbers for Venezuela are around twelve cents per gallon.

The U.S.? $3.45. (#101)

And the UK? $8.38 (#3)

More like $10.

On Mar 22, 10:47*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/22/2011 3:00 AM, harry wrote:





On Mar 21, 4:50 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/21/2011 11:10 AM, DGDevin wrote:

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
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I hate to burst your bigoted bubble there DG but there are Democrats I
actually like and gay people don't bother me just because they're gay
anymore than someone who is heterosexual.

Good for you, seriously. On the other hand the GOP has used the threat
of gay marriage to drum up lots of votes, so apparently some folks
aren't quite so enlightened.

The problem I have with The GOP is the fact that religious wackos seem
to have taken over the party. You don't have to be pious to possess
morals. I have no problem with gay men marrying gay women. When two
people of the same gender get married, how in the hell do you tell which
is the husband and which is the wife? ^_^

Inappropriate "public" behavior by either group does bother me.

Like smoking in a theatre?

Having sex in the public square or deep tonguing each other in front of
anyone who may be offended by such behavior when they know it will.

Of course you may be a Liberal
freak and could never understand something like propriety. ^_^

I'm a liberal like you're a ballet dancer.

Funny thing about that, I did a lot of ballet exercises when I studied
and practiced Karate. It gave me a reason to respect ballet dancers as
extreme athletes. Those fellows you see dancing with the girls in tutus
aren't necessarily sissies. If you tease one of them, you might get your
ears boxed with ballet slippers still attached to a coupe of feet. :-)

TDD

Like this Duf?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxPULL1isw

Um, Harry, is this another one of those odd British predilections of
voyeurism? o_O

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IT's "Dogging" you're thinking of probably.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEct-1eIfdQ

On Mar 25, 2:20*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote:

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Since the end of empire and colonies, Africa and Asia are returning to
their normal state of corruption, piracy, genocide, poverty and
barbarism.
There were never enough white men there and/or for long enough.
In the places where there were, we have a degree of civilisation.

That's simply not true. The British and the French were in the Muslim lands
for more than two generations. They set up complete civil societies -
schools, courts, legislative bodies, the entire apparatus of government.
They instituted the rule of law.

When the French and British left, the lands quickly regressed to mayhem. You
can't blame the lack of white men on the current situations - it has to be
the overabundance of Mohammadens.

Consider the case of India. When India was granted independence in August of
1947, it split into two countries: India proper, and Pakistan. Today, India
is the world's largest democracy and Pakistan is the only know hole above
ground.

White men were in the USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia for four
hundred years &things turned out moreor lessOK.
White men were in India, Indonesia, South America for around three
hundred years.
Then there were the other places such as Africa.
BTW, have you been to Pakistan or this another of your hearsay things?