OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


Over the years I have used both.

Properly installed tile over a properly prepared surface of suitable
thickness does not crack. A first class install will last at least 30 years.
I just tore out one that was installed in 1937. No vinyl is going to last
that long.


--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

On Feb 9, 5:37*pm, bpuharic wrote:
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

tie all the way because!

Males who miss will stain vinyl and you will be doing the job again in
5 years or less.

new floors are work. Use concrete board!

or get a pro to do it so it lasts a long time.

the grout lines add traction on a wet floor, for this reason small
tiles are prefered, pick a grout that will age gracefully.........

"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??



If you've seen mildew on bathroom floor grout, it's because a human was
doing something very wrong.

1) Pouring water onto the floor during showers. I say "pouring" because the
word signifies intent. We know there is intent because it's so easy to NOT
let water hit the floor during showers. If the human does not prevent it, it
means the human wanted it to happen.

2) Leaky toilet or sweating toilet tank. Easy to fix. If it's not fixed,
it's because someone wanted it to happen.

3) Lousy ventilation during showers. Easy to fix. If it's not fixed, it's
because someone wanted it to happen.

Fix the human problems and you'll have no mildew on your floor grout.

I said FLOOR GROUT. We're not talking about the grout in the shower itself.

On 2/9/2011 6:31 PM, Colbyt wrote:
wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


Over the years I have used both.

Properly installed tile over a properly prepared surface of suitable
thickness does not crack. A first class install will last at least 30 years.
I just tore out one that was installed in 1937. No vinyl is going to last
that long.



I can feel my bathroom floor flex when I lean back and forth. Joists are
only 2x8, with around a 12' span. Even though subfloor in that part of
house is the original diagonal 1x4, it is still pretty flexible. House
isn't fancy enough to make tile worthwhile- if I splurge and redo that
bath, it'll get a good grade of vinyl- no sense in putting pearl
earrings on a pig.

--
aem sends....

"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


I lived in a house that had ceramic tile in the bath. ON the walls and on
the floor. Hard to keep clean. I moved into a house about 5 years ago and
redid the bathroom. Went to the stud walls. Had a good grade of vinyl on
the floor and the fake marble for the shower.
If I never see ceramic tile it will be too soon.

I guess that the looks is in the person looking at it.

bpuharic wrote in
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??



Vinyl is the most practical for a moisture-intensive environment like a
bathroom.

If tiles crack, then the floor is poorly-prepared and has insufficient
rigidity.

If you do decide on tiles, use black grout. Any lighter color will yellow
in the region of the toilet (guess why).

--
Tegger

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

If the home has wheels, definitely go with vinyl

"aemeijers" wrote in message
news
On 2/9/2011 6:31 PM, Colbyt wrote:
wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


Over the years I have used both.

Properly installed tile over a properly prepared surface of suitable
thickness does not crack. A first class install will last at least 30
years.
I just tore out one that was installed in 1937. No vinyl is going to
last
that long.



I can feel my bathroom floor flex when I lean back and forth. Joists are
only 2x8, with around a 12' span. Even though subfloor in that part of
house is the original diagonal 1x4, it is still pretty flexible. House
isn't fancy enough to make tile worthwhile- if I splurge and redo that
bath, it'll get a good grade of vinyl- no sense in putting pearl earrings
on a pig.

--
aem sends....

The one I ripped out including the joists was a true mudset with the carved
joist tops filled with concrete 2x8 and about 12 foot. Weather had been too
bad for me to haul that load to the landfill. I bet those joists were
supporting at least 1000 pounds in a 25 square foot area. I went back with
2x8s but the spacing is more like 12-14" CC. Blocking at 4.5 foot and 9
foot, topped off with two layers of 23/32 plywood. It is as solid as a
rock. I plan to add 1/4" hardie and tile.

My point is blocking or bridging may take the flex out of the floor. But
then vinyl can also be a good choice if you live there. Tenants will
destroy vinyl in 5 years or less. They are both good products.

Colbyt

On 2/9/2011 9:07 PM, Colbyt wrote:
wrote in message
news
On 2/9/2011 6:31 PM, Colbyt wrote:
wrote in message
news OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


Over the years I have used both.

Properly installed tile over a properly prepared surface of suitable
thickness does not crack. A first class install will last at least 30
years.
I just tore out one that was installed in 1937. No vinyl is going to
last
that long.



I can feel my bathroom floor flex when I lean back and forth. Joists are
only 2x8, with around a 12' span. Even though subfloor in that part of
house is the original diagonal 1x4, it is still pretty flexible. House
isn't fancy enough to make tile worthwhile- if I splurge and redo that
bath, it'll get a good grade of vinyl- no sense in putting pearl earrings
on a pig.

--
aem sends....

The one I ripped out including the joists was a true mudset with the carved
joist tops filled with concrete 2x8 and about 12 foot. Weather had been too
bad for me to haul that load to the landfill. I bet those joists were
supporting at least 1000 pounds in a 25 square foot area. I went back with
2x8s but the spacing is more like 12-14" CC. Blocking at 4.5 foot and 9
foot, topped off with two layers of 23/32 plywood. It is as solid as a
rock. I plan to add 1/4" hardie and tile.

My point is blocking or bridging may take the flex out of the floor. But
then vinyl can also be a good choice if you live there. Tenants will
destroy vinyl in 5 years or less. They are both good products.

Colbyt



Oh, I agree with you- a traditional tile job over a reinforced floor is
the gold standard. Just saying that on this place, I'd never get my
money back out of it, and I'm a guy, and I live alone, so why bother?
When I was a kid, the high-end places my old man built still sometimes
got mud-bed floors, but more for entry hall slate than for bathrooms.
Most places got vinyl in kitchens and baths. Did a few in Torginal,
which was a nice concept, but the early stuff wasn't too durable and/or
the install crew didn't have the correct training. Wear layer ground
off, and the untaped seams of the underlayment telegraphed through in a
couple of years.

--
aem sends...

bpuharic wrote:
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Advantages of tile over vinyl:
1. Lasts forever
2. Grout will not mildew if you slather on the sealer
3. I sometimes see tile for free on Craigslist. I've never seen free, used,
vinyl.*
4. Tile is "mistake friendly." If you goof, you grab and cut another tile.
If you goof on a sheet of vinyl, it's back to the borg for another sheet!

--------
* I got about 600 sq ft of free ceramic tile. Had to clean off the stuck on
thinset, but that wasn't hard - just time consuming. I tiled the hall bath
and kitchen with it for just the cost of the thinset, grout, and sealer.
Still got a lot left!

Now here's what's interesting. The chap from whom I got the tile had it in
his kitchen and family room and maybe a hallway or two. His concrete floor
started cracking and heaving which started fracturing the tile. His
solution? Rip out the tile and put down carpeting so the cracks wouldn't
show.

Clever solution, but, I dunno...

Ralph Mowery wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


I lived in a house that had ceramic tile in the bath. ON the walls
and on the floor. Hard to keep clean. I moved into a house about 5
years ago and redid the bathroom. Went to the stud walls. Had a
good grade of vinyl on the floor and the fake marble for the shower.
If I never see ceramic tile it will be too soon.

I guess that the looks is in the person looking at it.

Tile is easy to keep clean if it's properly sealed. You almost never see
dirt, etc., on dark floor tiles. I've got white tile in one bath and it gets
dirty from the rays emitted by my eyeballs! The wine-colored floor tiles in
another bath (and kitchen) don't show any dirt at all, nor do they show the
drops of wine that often fall on them.

Mustard is a diffferent story.

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

Tile isn't all that difficult.

any opinions??

Without a question, tile it.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:53:31 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

Ralph Mowery wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


I lived in a house that had ceramic tile in the bath. ON the walls
and on the floor. Hard to keep clean. I moved into a house about 5
years ago and redid the bathroom. Went to the stud walls. Had a
good grade of vinyl on the floor and the fake marble for the shower.
If I never see ceramic tile it will be too soon.

I guess that the looks is in the person looking at it.

Tile is easy to keep clean if it's properly sealed. You almost never see
dirt, etc., on dark floor tiles. I've got white tile in one bath and it gets
dirty from the rays emitted by my eyeballs! The wine-colored floor tiles in
another bath (and kitchen) don't show any dirt at all, nor do they show the
drops of wine that often fall on them.

Mustard is a diffferent story.

Hmm. I can understand wine in the bathroom, I suppose. ...but Mustard is
just too kinky!

" wrote in
:

On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:53:31 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Mustard is a diffferent story.

Hmm. I can understand wine in the bathroom, I suppose. ...but
Mustard is just too kinky!



Not if it's Grey Poupon...


--
Tegger

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Well, I learned here that ceramic tile is not waterproof. I guess the
tile is but water can seep through the grout, right. I rarely get the
floor wet, and the one time the bathtub overflowed, most of the water
probably got through where the floor meets the bathtub (although maybe
there is way to waterproof that.) If it hadn't done that, it would
have gone through where the floor meets the walls. So you have to
think about waterproof in the middle and maybe not at the edges.

You might be able to find a good pattern for bathrooms too. My friend
put vinyl "linoleum" in the house he was selling and it looked just
like laminate, until I found one spot where it was "bubbling" up for
some reason. It looked like hardwood at first until I saw there was
no seam between "boards".

"HeyBub" wrote in message
news
Ralph Mowery wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


I lived in a house that had ceramic tile in the bath. ON the walls
and on the floor. Hard to keep clean. I moved into a house about 5
years ago and redid the bathroom. Went to the stud walls. Had a
good grade of vinyl on the floor and the fake marble for the shower.
If I never see ceramic tile it will be too soon.

I guess that the looks is in the person looking at it.

Tile is easy to keep clean if it's properly sealed. You almost never see
dirt, etc., on dark floor tiles. I've got white tile in one bath and it
gets dirty from the rays emitted by my eyeballs! The wine-colored floor
tiles in another bath (and kitchen) don't show any dirt at all, nor do
they show the drops of wine that often fall on them.

Mustard is a diffferent story.



It makes sense that you're that much of a slob.

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


Well, I learned here that ceramic tile is not waterproof. I guess the
tile is but water can seep through the grout, right. I rarely get the
floor wet, and the one time the bathtub overflowed....


How does a tub overflow? Seriously. Weren't there grownups in the house?

Oren wrote in news:n0d6l6tdd64g6o9g09ldq2i1s3pv84vmg0@
4ax.com:

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

If the home has wheels, definitely go with vinyl

LOL! Priceless response.

bpuharic wrote in news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in.

Yep. Proper prep to make it suitable for tile, toilet riser,
undercutting jambs, drilling/cutting holes in tile for plumbing.

grout tends to mildew.

Not if it doesn't get wet. Which mean sealing it with top top quality
sealer that penetrates the grout. Not some spray ****.

Not cheap. $50/pint. Goes a loooong way. Expected wear "Up to 15 yrs"
per data sheet.

http://www.custombuildingproducts.co...er=pro&lang=en

Also, dark grout more forgiving of course.

and it cracks

Some places it's just not practical to tile. Most places can be prepped
properly. A matter of time, money, work.


but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


Vinyl easier to renew if floor is in tact. Vinyl in decent shape then
vinyl over vinyl. Vinyl in poor shape then underlayment and vinyl over
it.

On 2/9/2011 9:53 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Ralph Mowery wrote:
wrote in message
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??


I lived in a house that had ceramic tile in the bath. ON the walls
and on the floor. Hard to keep clean. I moved into a house about 5
years ago and redid the bathroom. Went to the stud walls. Had a
good grade of vinyl on the floor and the fake marble for the shower.
If I never see ceramic tile it will be too soon.

I guess that the looks is in the person looking at it.

Tile is easy to keep clean if it's properly sealed. You almost never see
dirt, etc., on dark floor tiles. I've got white tile in one bath and it gets
dirty from the rays emitted by my eyeballs! The wine-colored floor tiles in
another bath (and kitchen) don't show any dirt at all, nor do they show the
drops of wine that often fall on them.


I've got (multi color) granite floor tiles for my kitchen counter top.
Almost anything spilled, blends right in. It always looks clean, even
when it's not (I'm sure is why they use them for flooring). I'm not anal
about cleaning so this suits my life, and when I do clean it, it is
super easy. This contrasts with the stainless steel I had before that
looked a little dirty when it *was* clean. The commercial vinyl floor I
had before was way too much trouble to maintain. Bathrooms are small,
I'd spring for good tile.

Jeff

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:59:10 -0500, mm
wrote:

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Well, I learned here that ceramic tile is not waterproof. I guess the
tile is but water can seep through the grout, right. I rarely get the
floor wet, and the one time the bathtub overflowed, most of the water
probably got through where the floor meets the bathtub (although maybe
there is way to waterproof that.) If it hadn't done that, it would
have gone through where the floor meets the walls. So you have to
think about waterproof in the middle and maybe not at the edges.


Should have a bead of white silicone along the tub bottom.
In my bathroom the tiles also run partly up the wall.
Last house was floor only and woodwork at the walls.
Had the toilet overflow a couple times, and it looks like the weak
spots for water to escape are around the toilet base and under the
vanity. Won't get through the grout.

--Vic

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Tile is easy to keep clean if it's properly sealed. You almost never
see dirt, etc., on dark floor tiles. I've got white tile in one bath
and it gets dirty from the rays emitted by my eyeballs! The
wine-colored floor tiles in another bath (and kitchen) don't show
any dirt at all, nor do they show the drops of wine that often fall
on them. Mustard is a diffferent story.



It makes sense that you're that much of a slob.

Not me! Mustard is known to drive the libido into afterburner mode - I'm an
oatmeal man for that very reason.

It's the little woman who slathers it on biscuits, chocolate mints, ice
cream, and, when in an agitated state from too much mustard, the floor.

On Feb 10, 11:32*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Tile is easy to keep clean if it's properly sealed. You almost never
see dirt, etc., on dark floor tiles. I've got white tile in one bath
and it gets dirty from the rays emitted by my eyeballs! The
wine-colored floor tiles in another bath (and kitchen) don't show
any dirt at all, nor do they show the drops of wine that often fall
on them. Mustard is a diffferent story.

It makes sense that you're that much of a slob.

Not me! Mustard is known to drive the libido into afterburner mode - I'm an
oatmeal man for that very reason.

It's the little woman who slathers it on biscuits, chocolate mints, ice
cream, and, when in an agitated state from too much mustard, the floor.

motor homes have tile floors that dont crack, if they can do this on a
moving vehicle your bathroom floor should be easy

On Feb 9, 4:37*pm, bpuharic wrote:
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Check your health care premium, consider possible changes in rates,
then decide.

Joe

On 2/10/2011 10:04 AM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in.

I was looking at some gorgeous and very cheap travertine, what about
that instead of ceramic? What about marble? The ceramic has an advantage
in stain resistance and price, but why not stone?

I've got a very small bathroom to make that I can make any frugal way I
wish. Since it's so small, spending money on flooring is no big concern.

Jeff

Jeff Thies wrote:
On 2/10/2011 10:04 AM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
news
OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in.

I was looking at some gorgeous and very cheap travertine, what about
that instead of ceramic? What about marble? The ceramic has an
advantage in stain resistance and price, but why not stone?

I've got a very small bathroom to make that I can make any frugal way
I wish. Since it's so small, spending money on flooring is no big
concern.

With suitable layers of sealant (a good sealant), I suspect any tile - even
sausalito - can be made as stain resistant as granite.

For the small bathroom in your project, a pint of the stuff (~$6.00) should
be a better bargain than $5 more per tile for marble.

On Feb 10, 6:06*am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"mm" wrote in message

...



On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Well, I learned here that ceramic tile is not waterproof. *I guess the
tile is but water can seep through the grout, right. *I rarely get the
floor wet, and the one time the bathtub overflowed....

How does a tub overflow? Seriously. Weren't there grownups in the house?

Some tubs do not have outlets. My soaking tub (not porcelain - some
kind of synthetic -- has NO place for overflow to go. Shouldn't this
be required?

HB

HeyBub wrote:
Jeff Thies wrote:
On 2/10/2011 10:04 AM, Red Green wrote:
wrote in
news OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in.

I was looking at some gorgeous and very cheap travertine, what about
that instead of ceramic? What about marble? The ceramic has an
advantage in stain resistance and price, but why not stone?

I've got a very small bathroom to make that I can make any frugal way
I wish. Since it's so small, spending money on flooring is no big
concern.

With suitable layers of sealant (a good sealant), I suspect any tile
- even sausalito - can be made as stain resistant as granite.

saltillo. i doubt you'd be putting a small kalifornia town down on your
bathroom floor.

it's really hard to make saltillo tiles be non-absorbant. they are a very
soft clay. you'd have to imbue them in something that would fill all the
pores. normal wear would open up areas on the tile and make them absorbant
again. it would be worse than having carpet on a bathroom floor.

For the small bathroom in your project, a pint of the stuff (~$6.00)
should be a better bargain than $5 more per tile for marble.

chaniarts wrote:

With suitable layers of sealant (a good sealant), I suspect any tile
- even sausalito - can be made as stain resistant as granite.

saltillo. i doubt you'd be putting a small kalifornia town down on
your bathroom floor.


Right. I was thinking of Bakersfield.

On Feb 11, 1:50*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:06*am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:





"mm" wrote in message

.. .

On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Well, I learned here that ceramic tile is not waterproof. *I guess the
tile is but water can seep through the grout, right. *I rarely get the
floor wet, and the one time the bathtub overflowed....

How does a tub overflow? Seriously. Weren't there grownups in the house?

Some tubs do not have outlets. *My soaking tub (not porcelain - some
kind of synthetic *-- has NO place for overflow to go. *Shouldn't this
be required?

HB- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

in pittsburgh a overflow is required by code for bathtubs and bathroom
sinks.....

its a great code requirement

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:48:44 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Feb 11, 1:50*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:06*am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:



HB- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

in pittsburgh a overflow is required by code for bathtubs and bathroom
sinks.....

its a great code requirement


i was born and raised in pittsburgh

bathtub overflows arent going to help

"Higgs Boson" wrote in message
...
On Feb 10, 6:06 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"mm" wrote in message

...



On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:37:18 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

OK so i'm still debating...ceramic tile or vinyl flooring in the
bathroom

ceramic is harder to put in. grout tends to mildew. and it cracks

but it LOOKS great

vinyl is easier...waterproof but doesnt look as good

any opinions??

Well, I learned here that ceramic tile is not waterproof. I guess the
tile is but water can seep through the grout, right. I rarely get the
floor wet, and the one time the bathtub overflowed....

How does a tub overflow? Seriously. Weren't there grownups in the house?

Some tubs do not have outlets. My soaking tub (not porcelain - some
kind of synthetic -- has NO place for overflow to go. Shouldn't this
be required?

HB
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Required as much as "This product contains peanuts" on a jar of peanut
butter. We have rules to save the weak, when in reality, nature should be
taking them out of the gene pool.

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:14:06 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:48:44 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Feb 11, 1:50*pm, Higgs Boson wrote:

in pittsburgh a overflow is required by code for bathtubs and bathroom
sinks.....

its a great code requirement


i was born and raised in pittsburgh

bathtub overflows arent going to help

I've noticed this. The tub and all my sinks but the kitchen and
laundry sinks have overflows, but they seem to accomplish very little,
compared to the size of the opening and how big I know the passageways
are.

On my list of things to do is make some sort of measurement of how
much water will flow through each overflow.

mm wrote:

I've noticed this. The tub and all my sinks but the kitchen and
laundry sinks have overflows, but they seem to accomplish very little,
compared to the size of the opening and how big I know the passageways
are.

On my list of things to do is make some sort of measurement of how
much water will flow through each overflow.

Given the extremely low volume of water allowed by EnergyStar these days (bath
faucets are less than 1.75gpm now), my guess is that the sink overflows will be
able to handle it with no problem. Bathtubs are a different story, but the
overflow there is significantly larger.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:53:40 -0700, Robert Neville
wrote:

mm wrote:

I've noticed this. The tub and all my sinks but the kitchen and
laundry sinks have overflows, but they seem to accomplish very little,
compared to the size of the opening and how big I know the passageways
are.

On my list of things to do is make some sort of measurement of how
much water will flow through each overflow.

Given the extremely low volume of water allowed by EnergyStar these days (bath
faucets are less than 1.75gpm now), my guess is that the sink overflows will be
able to handle it with no problem. Bathtubs are a different story, but the
overflow there is significantly larger.

My house precedes energystar. But the overflow doesn't do well on
removing overflow.

My bathtub wasn't running even at 1.75 gpm when it overflowed. It was
off, except the washer was bad and something between a trickle and a
tiny stream was running, and the overflow coudln't even handle that.
Yes, it's strange. I don't know why. I took the overflow apart
afterwards and didn't find anything unusual in it. And the drain
works well. It's a mystery.