Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
.... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Thanks.

On Sep 20, 9:38*am, Pointer wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. *Plenty of power. *Ground level. *Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. *Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Thanks.

Electric resistive is 100% efficient by nature but it is also the most
expensive way to heat.

Stand alone room, or attached to garage or attached to house? No need
to cool? How about a window unit ac/heat pump?

On 9/20/2010 9:41 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Sep 20, 9:38 am, wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Thanks.

Electric resistive is 100% efficient by nature but it is also the most
expensive way to heat.

Stand alone room, or attached to garage or attached to house? No need
to cool? How about a window unit ac/heat pump?
Part of house. No need to cool. No windows (french outside doors).
Want only electric baseboard heating.

On Sep 20, 10:23*am, Pointer wrote:
On 9/20/2010 9:41 AM, jamesgangnc wrote: On Sep 20, 9:38 am, *wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. *Plenty of power. *Ground level. *Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. *Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Thanks.

Electric resistive is 100% efficient by nature but it is also the most
expensive way to heat.

Stand alone room, or attached to garage or attached to house? *No need
to cool? *How about a window unit ac/heat pump?

Part of house. *No need to cool. *No windows (french outside doors).
Want only electric baseboard heating.

No need to cool makes me think you're in the great white north.
You'll pay a pretty penny to heat with resistive if you are. Features
and price are pretty much all you need to compare, as I mentioned they
are all equal efficiency.

Is there a compelling reason not to add the room to the existing
heating system?

I recently put in two 240-volt electric hydronic baseboard heating units and
a wall thermostat in a former attic space that I refinished. Regular
electric baseboad heating units cost less, but they are hotter to the touch
etc. Electric hydryonic baseboard heaters are cooler to the touch and seem
to give off a more even and more pleasant heat. I bought the electric
hydronic baseboard heating units at Home Depot.

Even though hydronic units do cost more, my thinking is that you only pay
that cost one time so it's worth it.

Here's the user manual that came with the units I bought:

http://www.marleymep.com/en/multimed...05.pdf.Pointer wrote: Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft ... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on using electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and brands of units. Thanks.

I recently put in two 240-volt electric hydronic baseboard heating units and
a wall thermostat in a former attic space that I refinished. Regular
electric baseboad heating units cost less, but they are hotter to the touch
etc. Electric hydryonic baseboard heaters are cooler to the touch and seem
to give off a more even and more pleasant heat. I bought the electric
hydronic baseboard heating units at Home Depot.

Even though hydronic units do cost more, my thinking is that you only pay
that cost one time so it's worth it.

Here's the user manual that came with the units I bought:

http://www.marleymep.com/en/multimed...0-2083-005.pdf .


Pointer wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on
using electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types
and brands of units.

Thanks.

On 9/20/2010 10:31 AM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Sep 20, 10:23 am, wrote:
On 9/20/2010 9:41 AM, jamesgangnc wrote: On Sep 20, 9:38 am, wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Thanks.

Electric resistive is 100% efficient by nature but it is also the most
expensive way to heat.

Stand alone room, or attached to garage or attached to house? No need
to cool? How about a window unit ac/heat pump?

Part of house. No need to cool. No windows (french outside doors).
Want only electric baseboard heating.

No need to cool makes me think you're in the great white north.
You'll pay a pretty penny to heat with resistive if you are. Features
and price are pretty much all you need to compare, as I mentioned they
are all equal efficiency.

Is there a compelling reason not to add the room to the existing
heating system?

Located near Annapolis MD. Cost not a factor since shop is not used
often. Three of the four walls are concrete or concrete block... none
exposed to the sun, thus pretty cool in summer. Floor and roof are
concrete. Simple solution is electric baseboard where a 240 volt
service exists.

Pointer wrote:

Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Another thing to consider is what kind of shop you will have. If it
is a woodworking shop, I think you'll regret electric baseboard
because the sawdust will constantly be smoking.

A low temp, radiant type heater would be more suitable.

Probably make more sense if you're going to repair electronics out
there, too, as it is less likely to circulate dust that you don't want
in that shop.

Curious how you came to choose electric. It is cheaper to install if
you have the amps and has minimal upkeep . . . but it is god-awful
expensive to operate in most parts of the country. [the TN valley
might be an exception]

Jim

On 9/20/2010 10:42 AM, RogerT wrote:
I recently put in two 240-volt electric hydronic baseboard heating units and
a wall thermostat in a former attic space that I refinished. Regular
electric baseboad heating units cost less, but they are hotter to the touch
etc. Electric hydryonic baseboard heaters are cooler to the touch and seem
to give off a more even and more pleasant heat. I bought the electric
hydronic baseboard heating units at Home Depot.

Even though hydronic units do cost more, my thinking is that you only pay
that cost one time so it's worth it.

Here's the user manual that came with the units I bought:

http://www.marleymep.com/en/multimed...0-2083-005.pdf .


Pointer wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on
using electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types
and brands of units.

Thanks.


Many thanks. I too prefer something that is not too hot to the touch.
What type, brand, etc. thermostat did you use?

Regards

Don

On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:38:27 -0400, Pointer
wrote:

Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on using
electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and brands
of units.

Thanks.
They are ALL "100% efficient" - but I'd go with a fan forced heater
in that application - or an oil filled type as second (distant)
choice.

Pointer wrote:
On 9/20/2010 10:42 AM, RogerT wrote:
I recently put in two 240-volt electric hydronic baseboard heating
units and a wall thermostat in a former attic space that I refinished.
Regular
electric baseboad heating units cost less, but they are hotter to
the touch etc. Electric hydryonic baseboard heaters are cooler to the
touch
and seem to give off a more even and more pleasant heat. I bought the
electric hydronic baseboard heating units at Home Depot.

Even though hydronic units do cost more, my thinking is that you
only pay that cost one time so it's worth it.

Here's the user manual that came with the units I bought:

http://www.marleymep.com/en/multimed...0-2083-005.pdf
. Pointer wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8
ft ... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on
using electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types
and brands of units.

Thanks.


Many thanks. I too prefer something that is not too hot to the touch.
What type, brand, etc. thermostat did you use?

Regards

Don

You're welcome. I bought Fahrenheat electric hydronic baseboard heaters.
They sell them at Home Depot and Lowes. I bought one at one of those
stores, but I needed a second one in a specific size/length that they didn't
carry (56 inches, I think). So, for the second one, I ordered it from
Cooper Electric Supply from one of their New Jersey stores and picked it up
the next day.

For a thermostat, I bought a wall-mounted Honeywell line voltage thermostat.
It is just a manual thermostat and it runs off of the 240-volt power to the
heater. I think Fahrenheat also makes the same type of wall mounted
thermostats. The way that it is wired is that the power/feed goes to the
thermostat, then from there to the heater unit. You can also buy
thermostats that mount right on the heater unit itself, but I wanted a
wall-mounted one.

I am pretty sure that Fahrenheat is made by Marley, or they are the same
company, or something like that. Here's their website:
http://www.marleymep.com/en/fahrenhe...d-heaters.aspx .

P.S. to my other posts: I just remembered that you said this is only an 11
ft by 8 ft room. Fahrenheat (Marley) also makes 110-volt portable electric
hydronic baseboard heaters. You may just want to get one of those and plug
it into a regular wall outlet.

Here's a link to that web page:

http://www.marleymep.com/en/fahrenhe...fp-series.aspx

Also, the Marley customer service people are very helpful. I had to call
them a couple of times to be sure I was doing the wiring correctly for
wiring two hydronic baseboard heaters in the same room. They knew exactly
what I had and walked me through each step. My guess is that if you called
their 800 number and asked them about whether the 110-volt portable electric
hydronic baseeboard heater would be sufficient for your 8x11 room, they
could tell you.

Pointer wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on
using electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types
and brands of units.

Thanks.

On 9/20/2010 3:17 PM, RogerT wrote:
P.S. to my other posts: I just remembered that you said this is only an 11
ft by 8 ft room. Fahrenheat (Marley) also makes 110-volt portable electric
hydronic baseboard heaters. You may just want to get one of those and plug
it into a regular wall outlet.

Here's a link to that web page:

http://www.marleymep.com/en/fahrenhe...fp-series.aspx

Also, the Marley customer service people are very helpful. I had to call
them a couple of times to be sure I was doing the wiring correctly for
wiring two hydronic baseboard heaters in the same room. They knew exactly
what I had and walked me through each step. My guess is that if you called
their 800 number and asked them about whether the 110-volt portable electric
hydronic baseeboard heater would be sufficient for your 8x11 room, they
could tell you.

Pointer wrote:
Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on
using electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types
and brands of units.

Thanks.


Thanks again. Actually heating was an afterthought. I have a only two
115 v circuits in the room and three 240 v circuits (two wire). None of
the latter are really needed and for one the wire which comes out of the
bottom of the wall. I was getting ready to put it back in the wall, run
it up and put in an outlet (which probably would never be used) for
safety. Then a light went off which said baseboard heating.

Don

On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 06:41:20 -0700, jamesgangnc wrote:
Electric resistive is 100% efficient by nature but it is also the most
expensive way to heat.

Depends on the area... we've got about 14kW of electric baseboard and it
actually works out slightly cheaper than propane (although not by much).
Ours are under load-control so don't run all the time (the propane
furnace picks up the slack as needed) but that's less of an issue if
you're insulated up to the eyeballs, and the rate's not bad (I think
around 4c/kWh)

Our electric co. are picky about what we can hook up to it, but they'd
probably allow storage heaters, which might be useful for a shop.

cheers

Jules

I know this isn't what you asked. But, I'm remembering the time I had
baseboard electric. My energy bills were unbelievable high. Lot of
money to use electric. If it's all possible to duct off your furnace,
or put in a fuel heater. It's a good idea to consider.

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Pointer" wrote in message
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Have a small unheated room to be used as a shop ... about 11 ft x 8 ft
.... presently unheated. Plenty of power. Ground level. Plan on
using
electric baseboard heat. Any recommendation regarding types and
brands
of units.

Thanks.

That said.... it may not be practical. Without being there to scope it
out, we can't speak for your needs. Well, we can. But we'd likely to
be mistaken.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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On 9/20/2010 8:51 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I know this isn't what you asked. But, I'm remembering the time I
had
baseboard electric. My energy bills were unbelievable high. Lot of
money to use electric. If it's all possible to duct off your
furnace,
or put in a fuel heater. It's a good idea to consider.

You are correct.