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Global Warming My Frozen Butt!
This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am
in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD |
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On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming |
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On Jan 5, 7:39*am, Frank wrote:
The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming Which is their right, except; they keep getting laws passed on their assumptions that make life more expensive and not particularly better. |
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"Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. |
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On Jan 5, 8:23*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15 F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD You appear to be mistaking Birmingham, AL, for the entire world. It's a common error. "Alberta Clipper", is how we usually term it here in Michigan. It's supposed to be 27 F today, which is close to average. I can't recall what the low was; somewhere in the low teens. I don't bother to pay attention until the snot freezes right in my nose. Then I know it's the low single digits or less. Cindy Hamilton |
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The Daring Dufas wrote in news:hhveg7$2v7
: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD NC I95, almost SC. Lower 20's nightly for like a week. About 10 degrees lower than the avg for this time in Jan. 14 slated for weekend. ....on the bright side don't have a "-" in front of that 20 like I've experienced many years up north. And don't have 33" of snow like S.O. had last weekend either. |
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Master Betty wrote:
.... True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. OK, out of curiosity, where was/is that? Generally, last summer was cooler than normal in most of the US...quite a lot for us w/ a very few 100+F days as compared to normally 14 or so... -- |
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On Jan 5, 8:08*am, Eric in North TX wrote:
On Jan 5, 7:39*am, Frank wrote: The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming Which is their right, except; they keep getting laws passed on their assumptions that make life more expensive and not particularly better. Sunday, 03 Jan 2010 05:11 PM A former director of the National Hurricane Center called Sunday for an investigation into the “scientific debauchery revealed by ‘Climategate,’” citing the way global warming skeptics have been marginalized by the mainstream media. The emails not only are troubling because of what they reveal about how some scientists played with data, according to Neil Frank, who directed the National Hurricane Center for over a decade, but for the flawed assumptions they make about the role of CO2’s effects on warming. Frank called for the investigation Sunday in an article in the Houston Chronicle. Climategate is the scandal that began when hackers penetrated the computers of the Climate Research Unit, or CRU, of the United Kingdom's University of East Anglia, exposing thousands of e-mails and other documents. One of the top climate research centers in the world, CRU has been the source for much of the evidence supporting climate change theory. But any of the exchanges were between top mainstream climate scientists in Britain and the U.S. in the emails suggested that data that didn’t support the global warming theory was being altered or ignored. “Among the more troubling revelations were data adjustments enhancing the perception that man is causing global warming through the release of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other atmospheric greenhouse gases,” wrote Frank, who was director of the National Hurricane Center from 1974 to 1987. “Particularly disturbing was the way the core IPCC scientists (the believers) marginalized the skeptics of the theory that man-made global warming is large and potentially catastrophic,” Frank wrote. “The e-mails document that the attack on the skeptics was twofold. First, the believers gained control of the main climate-profession journals. This allowed them to block publication of papers written by the skeptics and prohibit unfriendly peer review of their own papers. Second, the skeptics were demonized through false labeling and false accusations.” The science isn’t settled, Frank wrote, despite what “climate alarmists” would lead you to believe. They also attack skeptics by painting them as tools of Big Oil or questioning their qualifications. But they are “numerous and well qualified,” Frank wrote. “Several years ago two scientists at the University of Oregon became so concerned about the overemphasis on man-made global warming that they put a statement on their Web site and asked for people's endorsement; 32,000 have signed the petition, including more than 9,000 Ph.Ds. More than 700 scientists have endorsed a 231-page Senate minority report that questions man-made global warming. The Heartland Institute has recently sponsored three international meetings for skeptics. More than 800 scientists heard 80 presentations in March,” Frank wrote. “They endorsed an 881-page document, created by 40 authors with outstanding academic credentials, that challenges the most recent publication by the IPCC. The IPCC panel's report strongly concludes that man is causing global warming through the release of carbon dioxide.” “Last year 60 German scientists sent a letter to Chancellor Angela Merkel urging her to ‘strongly reconsider’ her position supporting man- made global warming. Sixty scientists in Canada took similar action. Recently, when the American Physical Society published its support for man-made global warming, 200 of its members objected and demanded that the membership be polled to determine the APS' true position.” The skeptics do agree that the Earth has been warming since the end of a Little Ice Age around 1850. But they question the cause, Frank wrote. Believers think the warming is created by man, but skeptics believe the warming is natural and contributions from man are minimal and certainly not potentially catastrophic. And skeptics argue that CO2 is not a pollutant but vital for plant life. They cite numerous field experiments that have confirmed that higher levels of CO2 are positive for agricultural productivity. Carbon dioxide is a very minor greenhouse gas, they believe. More than 90 percent of the warming from greenhouse gases is caused by water vapor. If you are going to change the temperature of the globe, it must involve water vapor. Finally, skeptics believe that climate models are grossly over predicting future warming from rising concentrations of carbon dioxide, Frank wrote. “We are being told that numerical models that cannot make accurate 5- to 10-day forecasts can be simplified and run forward for 100 years with results so reliable you can impose an economic disaster on the U.S. and the world,” he added. “Climategate reveals how predetermined political agendas shaped science rather than the other way around. It is high time to question the true agenda of the scientists now on the hot seat and to bring skeptics back into the public debate,” he concluded. |
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On Jan 5, 8:16*am, "Master Betty" wrote:
"Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. Don't know where you are located but last summer wasn't anywhere near a record around here but it is turning into a really cold winter. That said, neither the summer or this winter is anything that I haven't seen several times in my 63 years. I have seen many summers that were worse and many winters that were worse. Overall, I haven't seen any significant change in the last 50 years. Personally, a little warming wouldn't hurt my feelings any. |
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On Jan 5, 7:23*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15 F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD By mid Jan +15 starts to feel like T shirt weather up here. Every American has a right to build a carbon footprint as large as Al Gore's. That guy should have given himself a frugal life before he started spouting off his mouth, then maybe he could have earned some credibility with the rest of us un-washed masses. Let em eat cake aint the way to influence people Al, sayin one thing and living another aint either. |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:49:27 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
I don't bother to pay attention until the snot freezes right in my nose. Then I know it's the low single digits or less. Ha, that's basically how I do it. Once I go outside and feel the inside of my nose freeze, it's just cold and it doesn't really matter how cold it is... We hit -35 the other morning. Then it got to about 0 yesterday and it felt like t-shirt weather. |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jan 5, 8:23 am, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15 F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD You appear to be mistaking Birmingham, AL, for the entire world. It's a common error. "Alberta Clipper", is how we usually term it here in Michigan. It's supposed to be 27 F today, which is close to average. I can't recall what the low was; somewhere in the low teens. I don't bother to pay attention until the snot freezes right in my nose. Then I know it's the low single digits or less. Cindy Hamilton Frozen boogers, a wintertime treat. 8-) TDD |
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Red Green wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote in news:hhveg7$2v7 : This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD NC I95, almost SC. Lower 20's nightly for like a week. About 10 degrees lower than the avg for this time in Jan. 14 slated for weekend. ...on the bright side don't have a "-" in front of that 20 like I've experienced many years up north. And don't have 33" of snow like S.O. had last weekend either. We get a bunch of Damn Yankees coming down here from time to time and when they see how beautiful it is, we can't get those suckers to leave. *snicker* TDD |
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news On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:49:27 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote: I don't bother to pay attention until the snot freezes right in my nose. Then I know it's the low single digits or less. Ha, that's basically how I do it. Once I go outside and feel the inside of my nose freeze, it's just cold and it doesn't really matter how cold it is... We hit -35 the other morning. Then it got to about 0 yesterday and it felt like t-shirt weather. Used to see rejoicing when temp got up to 15F. Road salt would start to work. |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:24:52 -0500, Van Chocstraw
wrote Re Global Warming My Frozen Butt!: On 01/05/2010 08:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The debate is over only for those who set themselves up for making big profits from global warming and global climate change fear mongering. They have all the ignorant third worlders in a tizzy over nothing. The third worlders are not in a tizzy over nothing. All of the proposals for dealing with the imaginary climate change involve restrictions and costs added to industrial nations. None of those restrictions/costs would apply to countries like India and China. The restrictions/costs would thus give the third worlders an additional competitive advantage over the western industrial nations. If I were India or China, I would be all for it too. -- Work is the curse of the drinking class. |
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"BobR" wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 8:16 am, "Master Betty" wrote: "Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. Don't know where you are located but last summer wasn't anywhere near a record around here but it is turning into a really cold winter. That said, neither the summer or this winter is anything that I haven't seen several times in my 63 years. I have seen many summers that were worse and many winters that were worse. Overall, I haven't seen any significant change in the last 50 years. Personally, a little warming wouldn't hurt my feelings any. ==== Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time. |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! This Friday, Houston is expected to have lower temperatures than McMurdough Station. 'Course it IS summer in Antarctica. |
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Master Betty wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 8:16 am, "Master Betty" wrote: "Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. Don't know where you are located but last summer wasn't anywhere near a record around here but it is turning into a really cold winter. That said, neither the summer or this winter is anything that I haven't seen several times in my 63 years. I have seen many summers that were worse and many winters that were worse. Overall, I haven't seen any significant change in the last 50 years. Personally, a little warming wouldn't hurt my feelings any. ==== Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time. I'm not sure about your central TX, but that certainly isn't the case in my north TX, though it was a couple years ago. |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! Here in east,east TN we had a few nights down to 11F. I think it's warmed up to 15F the last couple nights with highs in the 20's. Average temps from previous years are a low of 29F and a high of 46F for today. It doesn't look like todays high will break 25F. Between day and night we are about 20F below normal and it's supposed to last a total of at least 10 days. Lucky I'm here by myself, the central heat is set at 55F and here I sit with 750 watts blowing at me from under the desk. Quite comfy actually! |
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On Jan 5, 10:57*am, "Master Betty" wrote:
"BobR" wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 8:16 am, "Master Betty" wrote: "Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. Don't know where you are located but last summer wasn't anywhere near a record around here but it is turning into a really cold winter. That said, neither the summer or this winter is anything that I haven't seen several times in my 63 years. *I have seen many summers that were worse and many winters that were worse. *Overall, I haven't seen any significant change in the last 50 years. *Personally, a little warming wouldn't hurt my feelings any. ==== Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry pal but your little area of Central Texas isn't the rest of the world either. I don't need to pick up a newpaper to tell how hot or cold it is and by the way, I live in central Texas too and it wasn't all that damn hot last summer. I have seen a lot hotter that this last year. |
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On Jan 5, 11:30*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! This Friday, Houston is expected to have lower temperatures than McMurdough Station. 'Course it IS summer in Antarctica. Yes, but the great part about Houston is that it will only last a day or two and then back to warm. I lived in Houston for over 40 years and would move back tomorrow if I could. I always loved how those Blue Northers would rip down through Texas until they hit Huntsville and then leave skid marks as they came to a stop just North of Houston before turning around as a warm front. The few that made it through were always short lived. |
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On Jan 5, 2:36*pm, "Pete C." wrote:
Master Betty wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 8:16 am, "Master Betty" wrote: "Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. Don't know where you are located but last summer wasn't anywhere near a record around here but it is turning into a really cold winter. That said, neither the summer or this winter is anything that I haven't seen several times in my 63 years. *I have seen many summers that were worse and many winters that were worse. *Overall, I haven't seen any significant change in the last 50 years. *Personally, a little warming wouldn't hurt my feelings any. ==== Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time. I'm not sure about your central TX, but that certainly isn't the case in my north TX, though it was a couple years ago.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Strange: Here, far eastern Canada: Next stop Ireland. Greenland or Iceland! We are having plus 4 degrees Celsius, that's around 32 plus 8 = 40 degrees F, yesterday and today. I didn't even take a jacket out with me today! It was just damp with occasional rain while driving. Not a bit of snow left from some time before Christmas! so few birds coming for seed to the feeders. Only used the snow-blower twice since last November. Ski hills couple of hundred miles west of here are closed; not even cold enough to make snow! One thing mentioned this morning on the weather news, about our 'funny weather', is that night time temperatures are not dipping as low, as they used to! That may be function of the greater amount of industrial and motor vehicle pollution and ocean warming? We are right alongside the North Atlantic here. Talking about damp; the patio deck is now sort of drying off (It's about 2.00 PM here) in some very weak sunlight. And the wind has dropped. Cheers. |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
Red Green wrote: The Daring Dufas wrote in news:hhveg7$2v7 : This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD NC I95, almost SC. Lower 20's nightly for like a week. About 10 degrees lower than the avg for this time in Jan. 14 slated for weekend. ...on the bright side don't have a "-" in front of that 20 like I've experienced many years up north. And don't have 33" of snow like S.O. had last weekend either. We get a bunch of Damn Yankees coming down here from time to time and when they see how beautiful it is, we can't get those suckers to leave. *snicker* TDD I thought we were just "Yankees" when we visit and "Damn Yankees" when we stay? I'm a Damn Yankee... unless this weather stays so damn cold! |
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terry wrote:
On Jan 5, 2:36 pm, "Pete C." wrote: Master Betty wrote: "BobR" wrote in message ... On Jan 5, 8:16 am, "Master Betty" wrote: "Frank" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 8:23 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD The Global warming alarmists will tell you that weather extremes are caused by global warming True....We're having an unusually cold winter and last summer was the hottest on record. Weird. I hope we never have another summer like the last one. This cold weather is a nice change. Not good for citrus farmers though. Don't know where you are located but last summer wasn't anywhere near a record around here but it is turning into a really cold winter. That said, neither the summer or this winter is anything that I haven't seen several times in my 63 years. I have seen many summers that were worse and many winters that were worse. Overall, I haven't seen any significant change in the last 50 years. Personally, a little warming wouldn't hurt my feelings any. ==== Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time. I'm not sure about your central TX, but that certainly isn't the case in my north TX, though it was a couple years ago.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Strange: Here, far eastern Canada: Next stop Ireland. Greenland or Iceland! We are having plus 4 degrees Celsius, that's around 32 plus 8 = 40 degrees F, yesterday and today. I didn't even take a jacket out with me today! It was just damp with occasional rain while driving. Not a bit of snow left from some time before Christmas! so few birds coming for seed to the feeders. Only used the snow-blower twice since last November. Ski hills couple of hundred miles west of here are closed; not even cold enough to make snow! One thing mentioned this morning on the weather news, about our 'funny weather', is that night time temperatures are not dipping as low, as they used to! That may be function of the greater amount of industrial and motor vehicle pollution and ocean warming? We are right alongside the North Atlantic here. Talking about damp; the patio deck is now sort of drying off (It's about 2.00 PM here) in some very weak sunlight. And the wind has dropped. Cheers. Doesn't the Gulf Stream warm you guys up? TDD |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:23:19 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD Maybe I can send you some warmth: 10-Day Forecast High /Low (°F) Precip. % Today Jan 05 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 0 % Wed Jan 06 Partly Cloudy 63°/42° 10 % Thu Jan 07 Partly Cloudy 61°/41° 10 % Fri Jan 08 Partly Cloudy 60°/39° 0 % Sat Jan 09 Partly Cloudy 60°/40° 10 % Sun Jan 10 Partly Cloudy 61°/39° 0 % Mon Jan 11 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 10 % Tue Jan 12 Partly Cloudy 59°/40° 10 % Wed Jan 13 AM Clouds / PM Sun 60°/38° 10 % Thu Jan 14 Sunny 60°/37° 0 % Last Updated Jan 5 09:08 a.m. PT |
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Master Betty wrote:
.... It didn't let up. 52 consectutive days of over 100 degrees. Last summer was the worst ever! For what definition of "ever"? -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Master Betty wrote: ... It didn't let up. 52 consectutive days of over 100 degrees. Last summer was the worst ever! For what definition of "ever"? -- Goodpoint. I've been here 6 years and, I always thought it was hot here, but last summer took the prize. From what I've heard it was the hottest in "recorded" history. Some time in the 1800s they started record keeping. Easy to Google. I don't have to. I lived it. It sucked. My a/c went out too. |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:23:19 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD Maybe I can send you some warmth: 10-Day Forecast High /Low (°F) Precip. % Today Jan 05 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 0 % Wed Jan 06 Partly Cloudy 63°/42° 10 % Thu Jan 07 Partly Cloudy 61°/41° 10 % Fri Jan 08 Partly Cloudy 60°/39° 0 % Sat Jan 09 Partly Cloudy 60°/40° 10 % Sun Jan 10 Partly Cloudy 61°/39° 0 % Mon Jan 11 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 10 % Tue Jan 12 Partly Cloudy 59°/40° 10 % Wed Jan 13 AM Clouds / PM Sun 60°/38° 10 % Thu Jan 14 Sunny 60°/37° 0 % Last Updated Jan 5 09:08 a.m. PT Back in 1987-88, I worked out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and the work uniform was shorts and a T-shirt. When I left and came back to San Diego, the temperatures were in the 60's and I was freezing my protuberances off. It felt like wintertime to me because I was acclimated to a tropical climate. TDD |
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD Global warming is the culprit. It's causing it to be cold when it's supposed to be cold. It's also causing it to be warm when it's supposed to be warm, unless it isn't, in which case it's also being caused by global warming. Oh, temperate weather is caused by global warming too.... |
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Oren wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:23:19 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD Maybe I can send you some warmth: 10-Day Forecast High /Low (°F) Precip. % Today Jan 05 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 0 % Wed Jan 06 Partly Cloudy 63°/42° 10 % Thu Jan 07 Partly Cloudy 61°/41° 10 % Fri Jan 08 Partly Cloudy 60°/39° 0 % Sat Jan 09 Partly Cloudy 60°/40° 10 % Sun Jan 10 Partly Cloudy 61°/39° 0 % Mon Jan 11 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 10 % Tue Jan 12 Partly Cloudy 59°/40° 10 % Wed Jan 13 AM Clouds / PM Sun 60°/38° 10 % Thu Jan 14 Sunny 60°/37° 0 % Last Updated Jan 5 09:08 a.m. PT Back in 1987-88, I worked out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and the work uniform was shorts and a T-shirt. When I left and came back to San Diego, the temperatures were in the 60's and I was freezing my protuberances off. It felt like wintertime to me because I was acclimated to a tropical climate. TDD "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." Mark Twain I remember it would get cold in LA just about any time of year. I was in San Francisco about 8 years ago in July and I had to buy a heavy jacket for the ferry to Alcatraz. |
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Master Betty wrote:
"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... Oren wrote: On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:23:19 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD Maybe I can send you some warmth: 10-Day Forecast High /Low (°F) Precip. % Today Jan 05 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 0 % Wed Jan 06 Partly Cloudy 63°/42° 10 % Thu Jan 07 Partly Cloudy 61°/41° 10 % Fri Jan 08 Partly Cloudy 60°/39° 0 % Sat Jan 09 Partly Cloudy 60°/40° 10 % Sun Jan 10 Partly Cloudy 61°/39° 0 % Mon Jan 11 Mostly Sunny 60°/39° 10 % Tue Jan 12 Partly Cloudy 59°/40° 10 % Wed Jan 13 AM Clouds / PM Sun 60°/38° 10 % Thu Jan 14 Sunny 60°/37° 0 % Last Updated Jan 5 09:08 a.m. PT Back in 1987-88, I worked out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and the work uniform was shorts and a T-shirt. When I left and came back to San Diego, the temperatures were in the 60's and I was freezing my protuberances off. It felt like wintertime to me because I was acclimated to a tropical climate. TDD "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco." Mark Twain I remember it would get cold in LA just about any time of year. I was in San Francisco about 8 years ago in July and I had to buy a heavy jacket for the ferry to Alcatraz. I was working in the Los Angeles area in 1989 when it snowed! The little Mexican kids were very confused. Must have been Global Cooling. TDD |
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Master Betty wrote:
.... Goodpoint. I've been here 6 years and, I always thought it was hot here, but last summer took the prize. From what I've heard it was the hottest in "recorded" history. Some time in the 1800s they started record keeping. ... So, similar to most places west of the Mississippi. Records only go back a couple-hundred years in general out here. From that one can say that the likelihood of a new record high (or low) is roughly 1/2% on any given day--not all that unlikely. OTOH, we're not that all that far away and we had only a couple of days all the past summer over 100F--quite mild by our normals. This area went thru a very wet spell in the early part of the 1900s when it was being first broken out for farming. What they didn't know at the time was that that was an extreme period for rainfall and only 25-30 years later they were in the heart of the 30s' drought accompanied w/ very hot summers and lots of wind. That lasted for quite a number of years before another cycle. We suffered thru another period in the early 50s; grandfather's records at the house show that two consecutive years during that time were drier for us, specifically, than any year during the Dust Bowl years. We've continued on that roughly 20-year cycle since. Certainly NW KS and some of W TX and the panhandles have been in a stretch recently. But, those areas are generally even drier normally than we and the extremes tend to be more so there as well even though all "normal" can be said of here is that it is the meaning of a statistical estimator. We can be 60s or even 70s one day ahead of the next front that may bring snow and 0F. Within the week it's often easily back to the 40s/50s. Right now we've had a couple reasonably warm days as the downslope winds give rise to adiabatic heating ahead of the approaching "blue norther" that's going to put us into the below zero range by tomorrow night/next day depending on how fast it proceeds. The overall SE US was in the throes of drought for some years (by their standards, by ours it would have been above normal to have had the accumulations of most places so that's relative, too). OTOH, this year most have been inundated and were wet last year as well. e-mail acquaintance in NE AL said they had right at 78" this past year. We were about normal; 100 miles east and on they like to never got crops in for wet spring and still have corn and beans in fields in areas because was cool and damp all summer keeping everything late and then turned wet again when needed dry weather for harvest. -- |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:10:23 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I was working in the Los Angeles area in 1989 when it snowed! The little Mexican kids were very confused. Must have been Global Cooling. I was there too. It never snowed. Perhaps you confuse hail w/ snow. |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Master Betty wrote: ... Goodpoint. I've been here 6 years and, I always thought it was hot here, but last summer took the prize. From what I've heard it was the hottest in "recorded" history. Some time in the 1800s they started record keeping. ... So, similar to most places west of the Mississippi. Records only go back a couple-hundred years in general out here. From that one can say that the likelihood of a new record high (or low) is roughly 1/2% on any given day--not all that unlikely. OTOH, we're not that all that far away and we had only a couple of days all the past summer over 100F--quite mild by our normals. This area went thru a very wet spell in the early part of the 1900s when it was being first broken out for farming. What they didn't know at the time was that that was an extreme period for rainfall and only 25-30 years later they were in the heart of the 30s' drought accompanied w/ very hot summers and lots of wind. That lasted for quite a number of years before another cycle. We suffered thru another period in the early 50s; grandfather's records at the house show that two consecutive years during that time were drier for us, specifically, than any year during the Dust Bowl years. We've continued on that roughly 20-year cycle since. Certainly NW KS and some of W TX and the panhandles have been in a stretch recently. But, those areas are generally even drier normally than we and the extremes tend to be more so there as well even though all "normal" can be said of here is that it is the meaning of a statistical estimator. We can be 60s or even 70s one day ahead of the next front that may bring snow and 0F. Within the week it's often easily back to the 40s/50s. Right now we've had a couple reasonably warm days as the downslope winds give rise to adiabatic heating ahead of the approaching "blue norther" that's going to put us into the below zero range by tomorrow night/next day depending on how fast it proceeds. The overall SE US was in the throes of drought for some years (by their standards, by ours it would have been above normal to have had the accumulations of most places so that's relative, too). OTOH, this year most have been inundated and were wet last year as well. e-mail acquaintance in NE AL said they had right at 78" this past year. We were about normal; 100 miles east and on they like to never got crops in for wet spring and still have corn and beans in fields in areas because was cool and damp all summer keeping everything late and then turned wet again when needed dry weather for harvest. -- It's good to hear other places are doing better. If it would of have rained more we would of got a break, but Central TX is having a bad drought, and hot weather. Brushfires scare me. I've always been skeptical (GW) but I want to see what happens next summer. There's been some drastic rain shortages in Greece, Portugal, Spain. Spain and Portugal have been having record heat for quite awhile now. It would be interesting to see the temperature statistics for other planets, but I don't think we're quite that sophisticated yet. I know there has been a lot of talk about the recent lack of solar activity and it's relationship to GW. |
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Master Betty wrote:
.... It's good to hear other places are doing better. If it would of have rained more we would of got a break, but Central TX is having a bad drought, and hot weather. Brushfires scare me. .... Again, too short a time span to tell much, if anything. And, w/ records as short as those like here, it's not even possible to say that what you're experiencing is anything particularly out of the ordinary. What seems long in an individual's experience isn't a microsecond in geologic terms. The native Americans told the early settlers here the good times of the early 1900s wouldn't last because they had legend and oral history that went back hundreds of years not just the lifetimes of the current elders. IOW, "this, too, shall pass"... As for the grassfires, we worry all the time over that for sure. But, again, one has to look at it in perspective. They're only a serious problem because there are now permanent residents and structures where before there were nomads and other wildlife. I don't know precisely the estimated times there but here generally any givem area could have expected to have burned about every 5-7 years. I doubt it was too much greater for a lot of that country down there altho probably fires didn't cover as extensive an area owing to more natural barriers and that thunderstorms there generally do have sufficient rain w/ them to put out fires after a while whereas we have a lot of dry t-storms. Since the house sits in the middle of several miles of grass in all directions w/ only a road on one side of the place closer than a full mile, we keep close eye out when it gets dry. -- |
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On 1/5/2010 11:57 AM, Master Betty wrote:
Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time. Me things Betty's a "Warmer". |
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:23:19 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote:
This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15° F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD This is just some data that needs to be hidden. |
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:12:42 -0600, Michael Dobony wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:23:19 -0600, The Daring Dufas wrote: This is supposed to be "The South", it's 15? F at 7:00 am in Birmingham, AL. There are some valleys in the area that I know are a lot colder. Darn Canadian imports, y'all just had to stick that cold tongue out at us. I've heard it called The Alberta Express. BRRRRRRRR! TDD This is just some data that needs to be hidden. It's irrelevent. Climate change != seasonal weather. |
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"mcp6453" wrote in message ... On 1/5/2010 11:57 AM, Master Betty wrote: Similar problem. Your area isn't the rest of the world. Central Tx had 52 consecutive days of over 100 degrees last summer. Hottest summer in recorded history. Also, we're suffering from one of the worst droughts on record. Pick up a newspaper some time. Me things Betty's a "Warmer". "The name is "Master Betty" you son of a wart-hog." yea......... |
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