So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Thanks,

Jon

On Oct 22, 12:03*am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. *I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

R

"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
...
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have
a bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass
shower doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Thanks,

Jon


I have clear. Generally they look like obscured. I did have a maid for a
while. Once she figured out they were clear she did do a good job of
keeping them clean. I have no idea how. I am content with them looking
obscured.

Pat wrote:

I have clear. Generally they look like obscured. I did have a maid
for a while. Once she figured out they were clear she did do a good
job of keeping them clean. I have no idea how. I am content with
them looking obscured.

Hehe, that's what I'm afraid of.

Jon

RicodJour wrote:

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

Hmmm, thanks Ricod. I don't know how consistent I'd be with that
however....

Jon

"RicodJour" wrote in message
...
On Oct 22, 12:03 am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass
shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

R

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for years.

On Oct 21, 11:03*pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. *I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Thanks,

Jon

Lime away or another acidic lime removal product used often is the
best way to keep them clean, but mine are frosted and the maid hasnt
been her in 3 years, they are still frosted.

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:03:24 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Thanks,

Jon



Shower curtains are better than sliding glass doors. No scummy tracks
to deal with, and unlike a door, the curtain moves easily and
completely out of the way.

Jon Danniken wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors
for showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I
might have a bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum
on them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass
shower doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?


Mount a shower curtain inside the glass. This will keep them (mostly) from
getting wet in the first place.

Jon Danniken wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

Hmmm, thanks Ricod. I don't know how consistent I'd be with that
however....

I hear ya. But Dow Scrubbing Bubbles would make cleaning
the glass a snap. If I had to have shower doors again I'd get
the clear glass, myself. I really hate the old style glass doors.

nancy

After my builder installed glass shower door shattered into 3 million
pieces when it slipped from my wet grip as I opened it (it flew into the
tiled wall towel bar), I went to a local plastics shop and had them cut
me a piece of plexiglass to replace it.

I chose a mottled pattern from several offerings on the display floor -
1/4 inch thick, and it was reasonably priced.

I'd never again have glass shower or tub enclosure doors - too much
potential for disaster.

Joe

Jon Danniken wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Thanks,

Jon

When I was a child I saw the man next door being given first-aid.
He had fallen through the glass doors above the bathtub. That image is
still in my mind 62 years later.

In article ,
"James Dent" wrote:

"RicodJour" wrote in message
...
On Oct 22, 12:03 am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass
shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

R

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for years.

Yep. I do the tile walls, too. Add up all the time it takes to keep a
shower clean the old-fashioned way, and all the time it takes to
squeegee it every day, and the squeegee is the lazy man's way by a long
shot.

On Oct 22, 9:09*am, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:26:07 -0500, "James Dent"



wrote:

"RicodJour" wrote in message
....
On Oct 22, 12:03 am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass
shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

R

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for years.

This will make it even easier and keep it cleaner:

http://www.autobarn.net/ac20002.html

You won't believe the difference between this and a regular squeegee.

Yep. I have a couple or three of the silicone squeegees and they are
great.

The recommendations to use chemicals I find odd. Cleaning is a
mechanical process unless you let it go, then it becomes a chemical
process. I try not to use chemicals to overcome my laziness. Hmmm,
that could be taken a lot of ways!

R

In article ,
(J O E) wrote:

After my builder installed glass shower door shattered into 3 million
pieces when it slipped from my wet grip as I opened it (it flew into the
tiled wall towel bar), I went to a local plastics shop and had them cut
me a piece of plexiglass to replace it.

I chose a mottled pattern from several offerings on the display floor -
1/4 inch thick, and it was reasonably priced.

I'd never again have glass shower or tub enclosure doors - too much
potential for disaster.

Joe

I can't quite visualize how a shower door could run into a towel bar,
but anyway, if your shower door shattered into 3 million pcs, then it
was tempered glass, which it legally has to be for a shower door. The
only disaster is having to sweep or vacuum it up.

Jon Danniken wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Thanks,

Jon


Hi,
I'd say it depends how hard your water is.

On Oct 22, 8:44*am, Ed Mc wrote:

* *When I was a child I saw the man next door being given first-aid.
He had fallen through the glass doors above the bathtub. That image is
still in my mind 62 years later.

A few years ago I slipped in the shower and fetched up pretty hard
against the shower doors. I thought sure I was a goner, but I just
bounced off of them. I'm no lightweight (250 lbs), but those doors
just rang like a bell and shrugged me off. I believe they were
installed in 1992, and the previous owner of my house paid $800
for them, which was a ton of money IMHO.

They're clear. I hate them. (We used to have a well, and I'm not
sure I've ever seen them clean.) But I don't hate them enough to
replace them, or to make a lot of effort to clean them. We
squeegee and when I feel like it I scrub them.

The track, however, is not too bad, being L shaped rather than U
shaped.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
On Oct 22, 8:44 am, Ed Mc wrote:

When I was a child I saw the man next door being given first-aid.
He had fallen through the glass doors above the bathtub. That image is
still in my mind 62 years later.

A few years ago I slipped in the shower and fetched up pretty hard
against the shower doors. I thought sure I was a goner, but I just
bounced off of them. I'm no lightweight (250 lbs), but those doors
just rang like a bell and shrugged me off. I believe they were
installed in 1992, and the previous owner of my house paid $800
for them, which was a ton of money IMHO.

They're clear. I hate them. (We used to have a well, and I'm not
sure I've ever seen them clean.) But I don't hate them enough to
replace them, or to make a lot of effort to clean them. We
squeegee and when I feel like it I scrub them.

The track, however, is not too bad, being L shaped rather than U
shaped.

Cindy Hamilton

===

tempered doors can withstand a golfball or baseball bat hit, or running into
them pretty hard. it takes something sharp like a knife or nail, or a blow
to an edge, before they'll blow.

62 years ago, they didn't have laws about tempered doors or windows.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:35:34 -0700, "charlie"
wrote:


"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
On Oct 22, 8:44 am, Ed Mc wrote:

When I was a child I saw the man next door being given first-aid.
He had fallen through the glass doors above the bathtub. That image is
still in my mind 62 years later.

A few years ago I slipped in the shower and fetched up pretty hard
against the shower doors. I thought sure I was a goner, but I just
bounced off of them. I'm no lightweight (250 lbs), but those doors
just rang like a bell and shrugged me off. I believe they were
installed in 1992, and the previous owner of my house paid $800
for them, which was a ton of money IMHO.

They're clear. I hate them. (We used to have a well, and I'm not
sure I've ever seen them clean.) But I don't hate them enough to
replace them, or to make a lot of effort to clean them. We
squeegee and when I feel like it I scrub them.

The track, however, is not too bad, being L shaped rather than U
shaped.

Cindy Hamilton

===

tempered doors can withstand a golfball or baseball bat hit, or running
into
them pretty hard. it takes something sharp like a knife or nail, or a blow
to an edge, before they'll blow.

62 years ago, they didn't have laws about tempered doors or windows.


There is a difference between tempered glass and safety glass,
although safety glass is also tempered.

Tempering makes it so the glass shatters into thousands of "pebbles",
rather than into large pointy shards, which can be deadly.

Safety glass is tempered, but is also a sandwich with a layer of
plastic in the center so that the pieces stay mostly in place, rather
than flying. Auto windshield glass is like that.

who said anything about safety glass? tmk, there aren't any code regs for
safety glass in construction.

auto front windows are safety glass, but the 2 pieces of glass that make it
up are not tempered. if they were tempered, there's be a lot more crushed
heads and it wouldn't have to be safety glass. the plastic is there to hold
the shards together. you want the glass to break, but not splinter or leave
a hole for a head to go through.

all other auto windows are tempered, but not safety, glass.

Smitty Two wrote:
"James Dent" wrote:

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for
years.

Yep. I do the tile walls, too. Add up all the time it takes to keep a
shower clean the old-fashioned way, and all the time it takes to
squeegee it every day, and the squeegee is the lazy man's way by a
long shot.

Thanks for all of the input everyone. Sounds like the squeegee is the way
to go if one is intent upon keeping the solid surfaces clean in there; just
have to see if I can teach myself a new trick.

Jon

On Oct 22, 6:57*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 22, 9:09*am, wrote:



On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:26:07 -0500, "James Dent"

wrote:

"RicodJour" wrote in message
....
On Oct 22, 12:03 am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
So I'm redoing the bathroom with a tub surround and some bypass doors for
showering. I had figured on using obscured glass doors, but I might have a
bead on a good deal for some doors with clear glass.

My concern is that clear glass shower doors will reveal any soap scum on
them a lot quicker than obscured glass versions.

So, what kind of cleaning routine will be necessary with clear glass
shower
doors vs. obscured glass shower doors?

Wipe them down with a squeegee right after the shower.

R

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for years..

This will make it even easier and keep it cleaner:

http://www.autobarn.net/ac20002.html

You won't believe the difference between this and a regular squeegee.

Yep. *I have a couple or three of the silicone squeegees and they are
great.

The recommendations to use chemicals I find odd. *Cleaning is a
mechanical process unless you let it go, then it becomes a chemical
process. *I try not to use chemicals to overcome my laziness. *Hmmm,
that could be taken a lot of ways! *

R

Rico-

So you've substituted sandpaper (400 grit?) for soap? j/k

I hear you on the chemicals vs mechanical but for some situations
chemicals are the way to go.
I admit the use of chemicals (but I think it prevents the triggering
of my laziness because I'll tackle a job that might otherwise seem
daunting)

But back to the OP's original question....... a quick wipe when the
shower is done will keep the glass looking great for a LONG time with
minimal work. If the squeegee is easily available it becomes an
automatic end the one's shower.

cheers
Bob

On Oct 22, 8:34*am, "Jon Danniken"
wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
"James Dent" wrote:

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for
years.

Yep. I do the tile walls, too. Add up all the time it takes to keep a
shower clean the old-fashioned way, and all the time it takes to
squeegee it every day, and the squeegee is the lazy man's way by a
long shot.

Thanks for all of the input everyone. *Sounds like the squeegee is the way
to go if one is intent upon keeping the solid surfaces clean in there; just
have to see if I can teach myself a new trick. *

Jon

Jon-

See if oyu can hang the squeegee in a convenient location within the
shower stall

....of course, your wife or SO might object but having it easily
available makes all the difference when it comes to using it on a
regular basis. It becomes an easy habit in no time.

cheers
Bob

On Oct 22, 10:50*am, wrote:

There is a difference between tempered glass and safety glass,
although safety glass is also tempered.

You can't cut tempered glass - it shatters. You can cut safety glass,
so that means it is not tempered. There is probably such an animal as
tempered safety glass, but I've never run across it in anything
residential.

R

On Oct 22, 12:48*pm, wrote:
RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 22, 10:50*am, wrote:

There is a difference between tempered glass and safety glass,
although safety glass is also tempered.

You can't cut tempered glass - it shatters. *You can cut safety glass,
so that means it is not tempered. *There is probably such an animal as
tempered safety glass, but I've never run across it in anything
residential.


It was a typo. I meant to write that SOME safety glass is tempered.

There are also many degrees of tempering.

Yep, like 1200 degrees!

R

Phisherman wrote:

Shower curtains are better than sliding glass doors. No scummy tracks
to deal with, and unlike a door, the curtain moves easily and
completely out of the way.

I understand it is a matter of personal taste, and I have run into other
people who prefer a curtain.

Personally, I consider a shower door to be exponentially better than a
curtain.

To each his own.

Jon

Jon Danniken wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
"James Dent" wrote:

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for
years.

Yep. I do the tile walls, too. Add up all the time it takes to keep a
shower clean the old-fashioned way, and all the time it takes to
squeegee it every day, and the squeegee is the lazy man's way by a
long shot.

Thanks for all of the input everyone. Sounds like the squeegee is
the way to go if one is intent upon keeping the solid surfaces clean
in there; just have to see if I can teach myself a new trick.

You can teach yourself. But good luck on the kids and guests.

On Oct 22, 7:01*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
Jon Danniken wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
"James Dent" wrote:

Excellent advice. My wife and I have followed this procedure for
years.

Yep. I do the tile walls, too. Add up all the time it takes to keep a
shower clean the old-fashioned way, and all the time it takes to
squeegee it every day, and the squeegee is the lazy man's way by a
long shot.

Thanks for all of the input everyone. *Sounds like the squeegee is
the way to go if one is intent upon keeping the solid surfaces clean
in there; just have to see if I can teach myself a new trick. *

You can teach yourself. But good luck on the kids and guests.

Do you expect your guests to do the dishes, empty the cat litter pan,
etc.? They're guests! Unless you have a revolving door for the
guests, the odd shower here and there won't really make a
difference...unless _you_ are not taking showers everyday!

As far as the kids, it is the parents' job to teach them maintenance
such as brushing their teeth, flushing the toilet and cleaning what
they use. Shower squeegeeing falls into this last category. If you
start the kid early it becomes a habit and second nature.

R

charlie wrote:

who said anything about safety glass? tmk, there aren't any code regs for
safety glass in construction.

Yes, there are in current building codes. I'm not sure on shower doors /
tub surrounds, but there are definitely requirements for low windows in
certain areas.

On Oct 22, 9:50*am, Smitty Two wrote:
the squeegee is the lazy man's way by a long
shot.

I've gone from towel to squeegee and back to towel (tub/curtain)
without detecting any variation in what little might be left of what
I've come to refer to as my former youthful industriousness.

Some say I've always been lazy but arguing seems like too much effort
considering all the ancient evidence they can't seem to let go of.

I think a towel is easier and more effective getting the inside
corners, the unused soap dish and the shiny parts. I dry me first and
let what water will shed shed, then give it all a quick wipe.
-----

- gpsman

"Pete C." wrote in message
ter.com...

charlie wrote:

who said anything about safety glass? tmk, there aren't any code regs for
safety glass in construction.

Yes, there are in current building codes. I'm not sure on shower doors /
tub surrounds, but there are definitely requirements for low windows in
certain areas.


for safety glass? there are residential codes for tempered glass for low
windows by doors, but what are the residential ones for safety glass? i
think there are some codes for safety glass in certain places for schools
(windows in doors, etc).

On Oct 23, 10:47*am, "charlie" wrote:
"Pete C." wrote in message

ter.com...



charlie wrote:

who said anything about safety glass? tmk, there aren't any code regs for
safety glass in construction.

Yes, there are in current building codes. I'm not sure on shower doors /
tub surrounds, but there are definitely requirements for low windows in
certain areas.

for safety glass? there are residential codes for tempered glass for low
windows by doors, but what are the residential ones for safety glass? i
think there are some codes for safety glass in certain places for schools
(windows in doors, etc).

Around here the term safety glass commonly refers to laminated glass,
and tempered to tempered. That is not strictly correct. Safety glass
can come in several flavors, or which tempered and laminated are two.
This should help clarify things.

http://www.codecheck.com/cc/images/S...gArticle07.pdf

R