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Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for
35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...2&categoryID=0 Actual pic of unit in use. Set about half way depth. http://i38.tinypic.com/29xu0dw.jpg |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Red Green
wrote: Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...2&categoryID=0 Actual pic of unit in use. Set about half way depth. http://i38.tinypic.com/29xu0dw.jpg This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU |
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news On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Red Green wrote: Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...ID=652&categor yID=0 Actual pic of unit in use. Set about half way depth. http://i38.tinypic.com/29xu0dw.jpg This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU Just looks like another sanding gimmick to me where all the minuses are learned with use. Will be interested in your actual usage report. The guy in the vid (actor representing owner I assume) deserves the misery he's having for letting that house go so long. Point of pure neglect. |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:48:10 -0500, Red Green
wrote: Oren wrote in news On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Red Green wrote: Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...ID=652&categor yID=0 Actual pic of unit in use. Set about half way depth. http://i38.tinypic.com/29xu0dw.jpg This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU Just looks like another sanding gimmick to me where all the minuses are learned with use. Will be interested in your actual usage report. It could be a gimmick, but I kind of doubt it. I looked at it last year and thought it was a DeWalt. Went back today and found it was a Wagner unit. What I want to do, it is reasonable. I can always sell it on Craigslist, new, once removed. Or next month in a yard sell. Still I like your idea of ladder support. The guy in the vid (actor representing owner I assume) deserves the misery he's having for letting that house go so long. Point of pure neglect. Plenty of houses now days need fixin'. |
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Red Green wrote:
Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...2&categoryID=0 That's a great price if you're in the right place. They would have charged me $40 for shipping. Mcmaster Carr shipped me one for $72, delivered a couple years ago. I don't know if it is 'getting old enough to know that '****' could happen to you', getting too stiff to maneuver comfortably, just getting smarter, or not being on a ladder often enough anymore. . .. But I'm with you- they make ladder work a whole lot more enjoyable. My property is on a slope that makes eaves work a real joy- so I also got a set of leg extensions that year. They add a bit to the weight of that ladder-- but also reduce the fear of dying by gravity. Jim |
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On Oct 18, 7:44*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
My property is on a slope that makes eaves work a real joy- so I also got a set of leg extensions that year. * *They add a bit to the weight of that ladder-- but also reduce the fear of dying by gravity. Gravity doesn't kill you on this planet. It's the sudden change in acceleration. R |
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Hi Oren,
This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU My wife and I just finished prepping and painting my in-laws house that had been neglected for many years (due to their poor health). There were numerous layers of peeling paint, and it was in much much worse condition than the one in the video above. I looked at one of those stripper tools at Home Depot, but couldn't justify the price tag for a one time job. Then I found the same mesh disc on a wheel that fit my 4" grinder for about one fourth the price (with the other grinder wheels and sanding disks). Good News: Yes, it works great for removing the paint and leaving the wood underneath untouched. I TRIED to sand into the wood on a scrap piece of siding and it had very little effect. It doesn't clog with paint like my random orbit sander did, and it even worked well for getting up under the bottom edge of each row of siding. Bad News: It wears out quickly. We finished "maybe" a 10'x12' area and the disk was too worn to continue using it. At something close to $20 for the disk, that would get pricy quickly. I tried my random orbit sander with 60 and 80 grit papers, but it clogged quickly and was just too slow. In the end, the best tool we found was an 80 grit "flap-disk" sanding wheel that fit my 4" angle grinder. It didn't clog like my RO sander and was much faster. However, you CAN sand right through the wood if you get too agressive with it. This actually worked well in our case where we were trying to blend some old siding with new siding. But it's pretty easy to get the hang of it without damaging anything. They cost about $5- $8 depending on where you buy them. We used three on the entire house. Of course, removing any loose paint you can with a good scraper really helps reduce the work needed with the flap-disk (making it last longer). DO NOT use a pressure washer on the house. It's easy to damage the siding itself, but more importantly will force water into the wood, and potentially into the walls (a problem for us, since there is no sheathing under the siding of my in-laws 100 year old house). If you have the time, I recommend going all the way down to bare wood. We "thought" we had done a thorough job of prepping the walls, but the rough layers of paint were still quite visible in many areas. Considering the condition the house was in it's not a big deal, but it sucks to put that much work in and not have it perfect. Good luck. It's dirty work with no reward until you actually prime and repaint. Even with safety glasses and dust masks you end up covered in paint dust from head to toe. Have Fun, Anthony |
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RicodJour wrote in news:bc3534d4-a487-49b8-9d01-
: On Oct 18, 7:44*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: My property is on a slope that makes eaves work a real joy- so I also got a set of leg extensions that year. * *They add a bit to the weigh t of that ladder-- but also reduce the fear of dying by gravity. Gravity doesn't kill you on this planet. It's the sudden change in acceleration. R -32ft/sec/sec. It's the minus sign that does all the damage... |
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On Oct 17, 9:54*pm, Red Green wrote:
Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...ctID=652&categ.... Actual pic of unit in use. Set about half way depth. http://i38.tinypic.com/29xu0dw.jpg I bought the non-adjustable style of a stabilizer just prior to replacing my windows, thinking I would have to do a lot of the work from outside the house. Turned out I never needed it as I was able to do just about all of the work from inside. I did install it to test and it does work. Unfortunately, the most use my extension ladder gets is when cleaning the gutters and I can't use it for that job. I need to lean the ladder on the gutters so I can get above them so I can't use the stabilizer. I wonder if 25" would be enough offset so that if I mounted it low enough I could still climb high enough to get above the gutters. |
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On Oct 17, 10:31*pm, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:54:51 -0500, Red Green wrote: Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...ctID=652&categ.... Actual pic of unit in use. Set about half way depth. http://i38.tinypic.com/29xu0dw.jpg This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't *stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU Where's the 18V version so I don't have to fight an extension cord while I'm on the ladder? |
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Jim Elbrecht wrote in
: Red Green wrote: Needed one to do some fascia board peaks. Picked this up on line for 35.50 (price when called order in) + $8 shipping UPS. They shipped the day I ordered and had it in 2 days. Thing that attracted me to this one was that depth is adjustable from 13-25". Never had one of these. Worth every penny. All the times/years of trying to work directly above my head while ****ting pants. http://www.industrialladder.com/prod...ID=652&categor yID=0 That's a great price if you're in the right place. They would have charged me $40 for shipping. Mcmaster Carr shipped me one for $72, delivered a couple years ago. Seems this place has multiple distribution/outlets. http://www.industrialladder.com/cont...gion=ContactUs The web showed $12 when it did the estimate based on zip from MD to NC. When I called, the shipping was $8 and the item cost was a few bucks lower. I don't know if it is 'getting old enough to know that '****' could happen to you', getting too stiff to maneuver comfortably, just getting smarter, or not being on a ladder often enough anymore. . .. But I'm with you- they make ladder work a whole lot more enjoyable. Well 15 years ago or so I came down from only 11 ft...on to asphalt...landed on one leg...that was straight rigid. Nine pins and a plate later (which I had removed a year after) I say I'm grateful that today it only hurts half the time - every other step. My property is on a slope that makes eaves work a real joy- so I also got a set of leg extensions that year. They add a bit to the weight of that ladder-- but also reduce the fear of dying by gravity. Jim |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
wrote: Hi Oren, This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU My wife and I just finished prepping and painting my in-laws house that had been neglected for many years (due to their poor health). There were numerous layers of peeling paint, and it was in much much worse condition than the one in the video above. I looked at one of those stripper tools at Home Depot, but couldn't justify the price tag for a one time job. Then I found the same mesh disc on a wheel that fit my 4" grinder for about one fourth the price (with the other grinder wheels and sanding disks). Good News: Yes, it works great for removing the paint and leaving the wood underneath untouched. I TRIED to sand into the wood on a scrap piece of siding and it had very little effect. It doesn't clog with paint like my random orbit sander did, and it even worked well for getting up under the bottom edge of each row of siding. Bad News: It wears out quickly. We finished "maybe" a 10'x12' area and the disk was too worn to continue using it. At something close to $20 for the disk, that would get pricy quickly. I tried my random orbit sander with 60 and 80 grit papers, but it clogged quickly and was just too slow. In the end, the best tool we found was an 80 grit "flap-disk" sanding wheel that fit my 4" angle grinder. It didn't clog like my RO sander and was much faster. However, you CAN sand right through the wood if you get too agressive with it. This actually worked well in our case where we were trying to blend some old siding with new siding. But it's pretty easy to get the hang of it without damaging anything. They cost about $5- $8 depending on where you buy them. We used three on the entire house. Of course, removing any loose paint you can with a good scraper really helps reduce the work needed with the flap-disk (making it last longer). DO NOT use a pressure washer on the house. It's easy to damage the siding itself, but more importantly will force water into the wood, and potentially into the walls (a problem for us, since there is no sheathing under the siding of my in-laws 100 year old house). If you have the time, I recommend going all the way down to bare wood. We "thought" we had done a thorough job of prepping the walls, but the rough layers of paint were still quite visible in many areas. Considering the condition the house was in it's not a big deal, but it sucks to put that much work in and not have it perfect. Good luck. It's dirty work with no reward until you actually prime and repaint. Even with safety glasses and dust masks you end up covered in paint dust from head to toe. Have Fun, Anthony Thanks! I bought the tool this morning. So far, it means I have some work to do. I'm about to do a corner on the fascia at 8 ft. ladder height and see how it works. |
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Red Green wrote:
(snip) Well 15 years ago or so I came down from only 11 ft...on to asphalt...landed on one leg...that was straight rigid. Nine pins and a plate later (which I had removed a year after) I say I'm grateful that today it only hurts half the time - every other step. Ouch! My leg hurts just reading that. A buddy at work that I eat lunch with most days had a similar experience, and similar rebuild work. He was off a couple of months, and it took a year before he was walking halfway normally. Another coworker actually managed to break his back/pelvis in a similar accident. They did what they could, but he ain't ever gonna be right again. I was already feeling my age and being more cautious before their accidents, since I could tell my sense of balance wasn't what it used to be. (I started getting queasy every time I was near a dropoff, and I used to free-climb rock and work on scaffold all the time as a kid. WTF?) Anyway, now I do anything off the ground a lot more carefully, and anything higher than my 1-story roof, I pay somebody else to do. -- aem sends... |
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Oren wrote in
: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband wrote: Hi Oren, This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU My wife and I just finished prepping and painting my in-laws house that had been neglected for many years (due to their poor health). There were numerous layers of peeling paint, and it was in much much worse condition than the one in the video above. I looked at one of those stripper tools at Home Depot, but couldn't justify the price tag for a one time job. Then I found the same mesh disc on a wheel that fit my 4" grinder for about one fourth the price (with the other grinder wheels and sanding disks). Good News: Yes, it works great for removing the paint and leaving the wood underneath untouched. I TRIED to sand into the wood on a scrap piece of siding and it had very little effect. It doesn't clog with paint like my random orbit sander did, and it even worked well for getting up under the bottom edge of each row of siding. Bad News: It wears out quickly. We finished "maybe" a 10'x12' area and the disk was too worn to continue using it. At something close to $20 for the disk, that would get pricy quickly. I tried my random orbit sander with 60 and 80 grit papers, but it clogged quickly and was just too slow. In the end, the best tool we found was an 80 grit "flap-disk" sanding wheel that fit my 4" angle grinder. It didn't clog like my RO sander and was much faster. However, you CAN sand right through the wood if you get too agressive with it. This actually worked well in our case where we were trying to blend some old siding with new siding. But it's pretty easy to get the hang of it without damaging anything. They cost about $5- $8 depending on where you buy them. We used three on the entire house. Of course, removing any loose paint you can with a good scraper really helps reduce the work needed with the flap-disk (making it last longer). DO NOT use a pressure washer on the house. It's easy to damage the siding itself, but more importantly will force water into the wood, and potentially into the walls (a problem for us, since there is no sheathing under the siding of my in-laws 100 year old house). If you have the time, I recommend going all the way down to bare wood. We "thought" we had done a thorough job of prepping the walls, but the rough layers of paint were still quite visible in many areas. Considering the condition the house was in it's not a big deal, but it sucks to put that much work in and not have it perfect. Good luck. It's dirty work with no reward until you actually prime and repaint. Even with safety glasses and dust masks you end up covered in paint dust from head to toe. Have Fun, Anthony Thanks! I bought the tool this morning. So far, it means I have some work to do. I'm about to do a corner on the fascia at 8 ft. ladder height and see how it works. Pros & cons, keep us posted. That comment about pads @20 bucks a pop is spooky. Resembles an inkjet printer. Buy two cartridges and the cost of the printer is exceeded. |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:30:35 -0500, Red Green
wrote: Oren wrote in : On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:35:37 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband wrote: Hi Oren, This cool season we will fix/prep/prime/paint our fascia boards. I found this tool*. Dang, I won't stand on a ladder for a long time. For me this may be a perfect tool on top-a-ladder. Reports pending.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqXARDjhxaU My wife and I just finished prepping and painting my in-laws house that had been neglected for many years (due to their poor health). There were numerous layers of peeling paint, and it was in much much worse condition than the one in the video above. I looked at one of those stripper tools at Home Depot, but couldn't justify the price tag for a one time job. Then I found the same mesh disc on a wheel that fit my 4" grinder for about one fourth the price (with the other grinder wheels and sanding disks). Good News: Yes, it works great for removing the paint and leaving the wood underneath untouched. I TRIED to sand into the wood on a scrap piece of siding and it had very little effect. It doesn't clog with paint like my random orbit sander did, and it even worked well for getting up under the bottom edge of each row of siding. Bad News: It wears out quickly. We finished "maybe" a 10'x12' area and the disk was too worn to continue using it. At something close to $20 for the disk, that would get pricy quickly. I tried my random orbit sander with 60 and 80 grit papers, but it clogged quickly and was just too slow. In the end, the best tool we found was an 80 grit "flap-disk" sanding wheel that fit my 4" angle grinder. It didn't clog like my RO sander and was much faster. However, you CAN sand right through the wood if you get too agressive with it. This actually worked well in our case where we were trying to blend some old siding with new siding. But it's pretty easy to get the hang of it without damaging anything. They cost about $5- $8 depending on where you buy them. We used three on the entire house. Of course, removing any loose paint you can with a good scraper really helps reduce the work needed with the flap-disk (making it last longer). DO NOT use a pressure washer on the house. It's easy to damage the siding itself, but more importantly will force water into the wood, and potentially into the walls (a problem for us, since there is no sheathing under the siding of my in-laws 100 year old house). If you have the time, I recommend going all the way down to bare wood. We "thought" we had done a thorough job of prepping the walls, but the rough layers of paint were still quite visible in many areas. Considering the condition the house was in it's not a big deal, but it sucks to put that much work in and not have it perfect. Good luck. It's dirty work with no reward until you actually prime and repaint. Even with safety glasses and dust masks you end up covered in paint dust from head to toe. Have Fun, Anthony Thanks! I bought the tool this morning. So far, it means I have some work to do. I'm about to do a corner on the fascia at 8 ft. ladder height and see how it works. Pros & cons, keep us posted. That comment about pads @20 bucks a pop is spooky. Resembles an inkjet printer. Buy two cartridges and the cost of the printer is exceeded. I will keep you posted . Pads do NOT cost $20.00. Almost, but around 15 dollars. If this thing doesn't throw me off the ladder I expect to be okay. Then I can report :-/ |
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