I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). He said he didn't want to do it. At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: Always give your wife a bill. She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.

I'm sure there are more.

Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). He said he didn't want to do it. At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: Always give your wife a bill. She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.


So you installed an outside faucet and gave your wife a bill. I take it from
that that she does the washing outside. In a big tub. With a washboard.

Outstanding! Wish I had a wife like that!

I bet she can cook a Sunday chicken dinner starting with a chicken from the
coop!

On Jul 27, 12:19*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. *I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). *He said he didn't want to do it. *At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. *I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. *For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. *Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: *When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: *Always give your wife a bill. *She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: *Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.

So you installed an outside faucet and gave your wife a bill. I take it from
that that she does the washing outside. In a big tub. With a washboard.

Outstanding! Wish I had a wife like that!

I bet she can cook a Sunday chicken dinner starting with a chicken from the
coop!

I didn't say she paid the bill. I just gave her one. I'm trying a
frostproof faucet instead of using an inside value to turn off out
outside value. We'll see how well that works.

And for the record, with me doing soldering in the basement. My son
thought it amusing that I took a fire extinguisher with me as part of
my "plumbing supplied". When he asked why, I said "you've never seen
me solder before".

I also give her bills for car repairs. Unfortunately, she doesn't pay
them, either. At least she looks at the odometer reading I put on the
windshield to remainder her when the next oil change is due. She
usually reminds me when it's +/- 1,000 miles; oops, I mean when it's
+1,000 miles. She never reminds me early. Her idea of preventive
maintenance is to tell me when parts are dragging on the ground.

As for the cooking, I do about 90% of that but I don't bill for it.
You missed some killer Potatos au Gratin this weekend with potatos I
dug from the garden earlier the same day (seriously). Yum.

On Jul 27, 9:54*am, Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. *I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). *He said he didn't want to do it. *At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. *I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. *For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. *Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: *When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: *Always give your wife a bill. *She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: *Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.

I'm sure there are more.

Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

Why would you start *any* project you can't finish?

Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping.....

I just replaced a blown out frost proof outside faucet with a new frost
proof outside faucet.
I left a push on adapter on it during the winter and it burst.

I'm lousy soldering pipe in a wall. A local plumber suggested I try a no
solder adapter called a shark bite or cobra lock.
Home Depot had the shark bite version. made the job alot easier... no
calls to the fire department.

PatM wrote:

So you installed an outside faucet and gave your wife a bill. I take
it from that that she does the washing outside. In a big tub. With a
washboard.

Outstanding! Wish I had a wife like that!

I bet she can cook a Sunday chicken dinner starting with a chicken
from the coop!

I didn't say she paid the bill. I just gave her one. I'm trying a
frostproof faucet instead of using an inside value to turn off out
outside value. We'll see how well that works.

And for the record, with me doing soldering in the basement. My son
thought it amusing that I took a fire extinguisher with me as part of
my "plumbing supplied". When he asked why, I said "you've never seen
me solder before".

I also give her bills for car repairs. Unfortunately, she doesn't pay
them, either. At least she looks at the odometer reading I put on the
windshield to remainder her when the next oil change is due. She
usually reminds me when it's +/- 1,000 miles; oops, I mean when it's
+1,000 miles. She never reminds me early. Her idea of preventive
maintenance is to tell me when parts are dragging on the ground.

As for the cooking, I do about 90% of that but I don't bill for it.
You missed some killer Potatos au Gratin this weekend with potatos I
dug from the garden earlier the same day (seriously). Yum.

So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

I wish I had a wife like that.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jul 27, 9:54 am, Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). He said he didn't want to do it. At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: Always give your wife a bill. She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.

I'm sure there are more.

Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

Why would you start *any* project you can't finish?

Uh, because it's not obvious you can't finish it until you start?

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:57:00 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jul 27, 9:54 am, Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). He said he didn't want to do it. At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: Always give your wife a bill. She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.

I'm sure there are more.

Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

Why would you start *any* project you can't finish?

Uh, because it's not obvious you can't finish it until you start?


"You cannot successfully determine beforehand which side of the bread
to butter."

On Jul 27, 3:52*pm, Steve Stone wrote:
Pat wrote:
I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping.....

I just replaced a blown out frost proof outside faucet with a new frost
proof outside faucet.
I left a push on adapter on it during the winter and it burst.

I'm lousy soldering pipe in a wall. A local plumber suggested I try a no
solder adapter called a shark bite or cobra lock.
Home Depot had the shark bite version. made the job alot easier... no
calls to the fire department.

I saw "Just for Copper" and the hardware store. It was tempting but
it seemed like one of those products that'll be a class action law
suit in 15 years. I might have tried it but was afraid of the
stresses of heat/cold cycles.

Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.

Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing
project you
can't finish.
1A: Scope out the job, and figure out what tools, and parts
you need. Get the parts before you begin. Get a couple
extra, whatever, if they are cheap. Like copper elbows.


Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at
least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate.
2A: Since you have scoped out the job, and gotten parts, you
won't need so many parts runs.

For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. Wives scream
less if
you finish early.
2B: It's good to figure extra time.

Rule #3: When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and
things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you
want if it
gets them to leave you alone.
3A: Honest people will be honest with their family. It's OK
to honestly tell someone you need to be left alone with your
work.


Rule #4: Always give your wife a bill. She'll blow you
off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on
some
planet.
4A: Only if you want to be billed for sex, food, and
housekeeping.


Rule #5: Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get
the first
shower.
5A: That's the male prerogative. You don't have to lie.


I'm sure there are more.

On Jul 27, 4:20*pm, Winston wrote:
Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.

Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

Sure. Knock yourself out. Send me a link when you're done.

On Jul 27, 9:47*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing
project you
can't finish.
1A: Scope out the job, and figure out what tools, and parts
you need. Get the parts before you begin. Get a couple
extra, whatever, if they are cheap. Like copper elbows.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at
least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate.
2A: Since you have scoped out the job, and gotten parts, you
won't need so many parts runs.

For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. *Wives scream
less if
you finish early.
2B: It's good to figure extra time.

Rule #3: *When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and
things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you
want if it
gets them to leave you alone.
3A: Honest people will be honest with their family. It's OK
to honestly tell someone you need to be left alone with your
work.

It is one thing to be honest with your family. But it's another to
honestly answer when your wife says "how's it going down there".
"It's going great" is better that ")@#*$)#$)*)@#$*))@*#$#)@"


Rule #4: *Always give your wife a bill. *She'll blow you
off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on
some
planet.
4A: Only if you want to be billed for sex, food, and
housekeeping.

Rule #5: *Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get
the first
shower.
5A: That's the male prerogative. You don't have to lie.

Being a male prerogative doesn't help. I have two teenage boys who
are quicker than I am. That makes me #3 in line for a shower. But
only I know when I turned the water heater on and know when the water
will be up to temp!!!


I'm sure there are more.

PatM wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:20 pm, Winston wrote:
Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.
Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

Sure. Knock yourself out. Send me a link when you're done.

Thanks!

--Winston

PatM wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:20 pm, Winston wrote:
Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.
Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

Sure. Knock yourself out. Send me a link when you're done.

Here is what I have so far:

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

Thanks for your contribution!

--Winston

Winston wrote:
PatM wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:20 pm, Winston wrote:
Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.
Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

Sure. Knock yourself out. Send me a link when you're done.

Here is what I have so far:

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html


There's a reason why every single readable site on the web has black type on
a white background. Thousands of years of experience has shown it's the most
legible. If the Bible had been printed with red type on a green background,
why we'd have stealing and murders all around us.

No, wait...

Change the background. That's almost impossible to read.
Just black text on white background is best. I'll send you
some pieces of wisdom as I find them.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Winston" wrote in message
...
PatM wrote:


Here is what I have so far:

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

Thanks for your contribution!

--Winston

On Jul 28, 1:41*am, Winston wrote:
PatM wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:20 pm, Winston wrote:
Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.
Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

Sure. *Knock yourself out. *Send me a link when you're done.

Here is what I have so far:

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

Thanks for your contribution!

--Winston

Re Rule #9 (Rain-X). For it to work best, you need to clean your
windshield cleaner than clean! But when CLEAN, and I mean CLEAN, it
works like a charm. The "secret" I've discovered is to use Comet
Cleanser or any cleaner that says "safe for fiberglass". Then it
won't scratch your windshield. With the Comet Cleanser, or Ajax, or
Bon Ami (GM's recommended cleaner), you can scrub your windshield just
like a sink.

HeyBub wrote:

(...)

There's a reason why every single readable site on the web has black type on
a white background. Thousands of years of experience has shown it's the most
legible. If the Bible had been printed with red type on a green background,
why we'd have stealing and murders all around us.

No, wait...

Okay, I've changed it to be more readable.
It is still awful, but I don't want to spend
any time learning html.

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html


So there.

--Winston

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Change the background. That's almost impossible to read.
Just black text on white background is best. I'll send you
some pieces of wisdom as I find them.

Try this!
http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

--Winston

PatM wrote:

(...)

Re Rule #9 (Rain-X). For it to work best, you need to clean your
windshield cleaner than clean! But when CLEAN, and I mean CLEAN, it
works like a charm. The "secret" I've discovered is to use Comet
Cleanser or any cleaner that says "safe for fiberglass". Then it
won't scratch your windshield. With the Comet Cleanser, or Ajax, or
Bon Ami (GM's recommended cleaner), you can scrub your windshield just
like a sink.

Thanks!

Stolen and published.

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

--Winston

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.

On Jul 28, 10:44*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,

*"HeyBub" wrote:
So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.

Who says she is sending ME a bill !!!

In article
,
PatM wrote:

On Jul 28, 10:44*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ReWdnRnbPIu3m PXnZ2dnUVZ ,

*"HeyBub" wrote:
So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.

Who says she is sending ME a bill !!!

Since you're sending her all those other bills, I just figured she'd be
reciprocating ... at a much higher hourly rate, of course.

On Jul 28, 10:39*am, PatM wrote:
On Jul 28, 1:41*am, Winston wrote:





PatM wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:20 pm, Winston wrote:
Pat wrote:

(...)

I'm sure there are more.
Absolutely Golden!

Can I have your permission to include these thoughts
in my not-for-profit list of '50 Secrets'?

--Winston

Sure. *Knock yourself out. *Send me a link when you're done.

Here is what I have so far:

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

Thanks for your contribution!

--Winston

Re Rule #9 (Rain-X). *For it to work best, you need to clean your
windshield cleaner than clean! *But when CLEAN, and I mean CLEAN, it
works like a charm. *The "secret" I've discovered is to use Comet
Cleanser or any cleaner that says "safe for fiberglass". *Then it
won't scratch your windshield. *With the Comet Cleanser, or Ajax, or
Bon Ami (GM's recommended cleaner), you can scrub your windshield just
like a sink.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I use the windshield cleaner with Rain-X mixed in.

Works like a charm. I rarely need my wipers at speeds over 25 - 30
MPH.

BTW - Here's one of the best glass cleaners I've ever used:

http://www.castleproductsonline.com/glass_cleaner.html

Sigh. Much easier. Thanks.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Winston" wrote in message
...
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Change the background. That's almost impossible to read.
Just black text on white background is best. I'll send you
some pieces of wisdom as I find them.

Try this!
http://mysite.verizon.net/reswoead/id5.html

--Winston

DerbyDad03 wrote:
(...)

I use the windshield cleaner with Rain-X mixed in.

Works like a charm. I rarely need my wipers at speeds over 25 - 30
MPH.

BTW - Here's one of the best glass cleaners I've ever used:

http://www.castleproductsonline.com/glass_cleaner.html


Stolen and posted.
Thanks!

--Winston

Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,
PatM wrote:

On Jul 28, 10:44 pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ReWdnRnbPIu3m PXnZ2dnUVZ ,

"HeyBub" wrote:
So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.
And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.
Who says she is sending ME a bill !!!

Since you're sending her all those other bills, I just figured she'd be
reciprocating ... at a much higher hourly rate, of course.

He clearly states his wife "blows off" the bills he gives her.


--
PB
"I suspect you're an arrogant little ****ant who grew up in the
Red Bull generation." - CJW

On Jul 27, 12:46*pm, PatM wrote:

I didn't say she paid the bill. *I just gave her one. *I'm trying a
frostproof faucet instead of using an inside value to turn off out
outside value. *We'll see how well that works.

guy who owned this house before me installed two frostproof faucets. I
hope you read the part in the installation instructions that he didn't
read; that you have to install them with a downward slant to the
outside not an upwards one, so that the water will drain out; or else
they will freeze and bust sure as hell.

Remove hose (and drain water out of hose) before first hard
frost.

Yeah, yah. I know: Stolen and posted. Here's my bill, honey.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"z" wrote in message
...

guy who owned this house before me installed two frostproof
faucets. I
hope you read the part in the installation instructions that
he didn't
read; that you have to install them with a downward slant to
the
outside not an upwards one, so that the water will drain
out; or else
they will freeze and bust sure as hell.

On Jul 29, 8:51*am, PatM wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:44*pm, Smitty Two wrote:

In article ,

*"HeyBub" wrote:
So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.

Who says she is sending ME a bill !!!

Speaking of Rules of Plumbing (or any DIY project) I have one that my
dad taught me many years ago.

"If you have to go to the hardware store three times on the same
project, go to a different hardware store."

I've done this on a couple of occasions. Three trips in one day is a
sad site.

Robin

On Jul 30, 1:12*pm, rlz wrote:
On Jul 29, 8:51*am, PatM wrote:

On Jul 28, 10:44*pm, Smitty Two wrote:

In article ,

*"HeyBub" wrote:
So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.

Who says she is sending ME a bill !!!

Speaking of Rules of Plumbing (or any DIY project) I have one that my
dad taught me many years ago.

"If you have to go to the hardware store three times on the same
project, go to a different hardware store."

I've done this on a couple of occasions. Three trips in one day is a
sad site.

Robin

PatM's corollary would be "If you live in a town with two nearby
hardware stores, you live in too big of a town. I ain't driving 20
miles out of my way to get to the 2nd hardware store. This town has
everything you need -- and you only need 1 good hardware store.

rlz writes:
On Jul 29, 8:51*am, PatM wrote:
On Jul 28, 10:44*pm, Smitty Two wrote:

In article ,

*"HeyBub" wrote:
So she doesn't wash, cook, or follow simple instructions. There must be
SOMETHING she does well, else you wouldn't keep her around.

And I wonder what kind of bill he gets for those talents.

Who says she is sending ME a bill !!!

Speaking of Rules of Plumbing (or any DIY project) I have one that my
dad taught me many years ago.

"If you have to go to the hardware store three times on the same
project, go to a different hardware store."

I've done this on a couple of occasions. Three trips in one day is a
sad site.

I know the feeling - I all too often end up going to Home Depot twice
in a day and there have been those 3x occassions. The people there all
know me well, including the guy at the returns desk. A couple of weeks
ago, a sales person asked me whether I will ever be done with my house
and I said it will never be done -- in fact, I feel like I have barely
started or even scratched the surface... sigh

Perhaps the people at the first store didn't know enough, to
be helpful enough?

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"rlz" wrote in message
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Speaking of Rules of Plumbing (or any DIY project) I have
one that my
dad taught me many years ago.

"If you have to go to the hardware store three times on the
same
project, go to a different hardware store."

I've done this on a couple of occasions. Three trips in one
day is a
sad site.

Robin

In article
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Pat wrote:

I needed to install a new, outside faucet this weekend and I had my
teenage son helping. I told him he had to learn to solder plumbing
because you just never know when you'll need that skill.

So as we were working, it became time to cut the existing water line
so I marked the location and handed him the saw (I couldn't find my
tubing cutter). He said he didn't want to do it. At first I thought
he figured out that he'd get wet but I asked him why, none the less.
He said that he couldn't take the pressure of disabling all of the
water into the house. I thought that was an interesting thought but
he had a good point -- never start a plumbing project you can't
finish.

That became Rule #1 of Plumbing: Never start a plumbing project you
can't finish.

Rule #2: For project of less than one day in scope, add at least 3
hours and two trips to the hardware store to your estimate. For
longer projects, add 1 day per estimated day. Wives scream less if
you finish early.

Rule #3: When the pipes are cut, the plumber is wet and things aren't
going okay, it is okay to lie to people about anything you want if it
gets them to leave you alone.

Rule #4: Always give your wife a bill. She'll blow you off, but at
least she might see that whatever you did had some value on some
planet.

Rule #5: Don't tell anyone when you're done so you can get the first
shower.

I'm sure there are more.

My best plumbing rule is: Any job that requires more than three beers
is best left to a (sober) professional.

-Frank

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