I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

Cheers,
Puddin'


"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

Puddin' Man wrote:

I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

I wouldn't use it.

http://www.goldeagle.com/sta-bil/faq...t=sta-bil&ID=9

"What is the shelf life of STA-BIL Fuel Stabilizer?

"2 years after the bottle has been opened, provided it has been tightly
capped and stored in a cool, dry place."

I don't know which brand I've been using but since I use the stuff for
the 2 gallon tank of a push mower I don't use much of it so I've
probably had the same can at least 5 or 6 years. It's stored in my
garage which maybe gets a little below freezing in the winter and
perhaps 80 on a very hot summer day.

Shaun Eli
www.BrainChampagne.com
Brain Champagne: Clever Comedy for Smart Minds (sm)
"Business School... in About an Hour?"

On Dec 14, 7:57*pm, Puddin' Man wrote:
I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

* Cheers,
* Puddin'

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
* *- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

probably 1oz evaporated. It may work but not as well.

On Dec 14, 10:49�pm, ransley wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:57�pm, Puddin' Man wrote:





I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

� Cheers,
� Puddin'

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
� �- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

probably 1oz evaporated. It may work but not as well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

theres a issue of gasoline with ethanol not being compatible , I would
call the manufacturer and ask

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:57:33 -0600, Puddin' Man
wrote:


I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?


It's the color of automatic transmission fluid (bright red) when it's
new. I doubt it would hurt anything, but it might have lost it's
effectiveness. It's certainly not the right color.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:41:28 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Dec 14, 10:49?pm, ransley wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:57?pm, Puddin' Man wrote:





I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

? Cheers,
? Puddin'

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
? ?- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

probably 1oz evaporated. It may work but not as well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

theres a issue of gasoline with ethanol not being compatible , I would
call the manufacturer and ask

The only issue with ethanol is that NO product will prevent water form
eventual seperation. There is no "compatibility" problem. It just
won't prevent that from happening. The newer formulations brag about
being made specifically for E-10 fuel, but it amounts to better/more
corrosion inhibitors, not change for some "incompatibility".

On Dec 14, 10:41*pm, " wrote:
On Dec 14, 10:49 pm, ransley wrote:





On Dec 14, 7:57 pm, Puddin' Man wrote:

I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

Cheers,
Puddin'

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

probably 1oz evaporated. It may work but not as well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

theres a issue of gasoline with ethanol not being compatible , I would
call the manufacturer and ask- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What? Ethanol is 10% gas, it has been for 20+ years and thats all
thats sold here, Alcohol has only good effects on gasolene, it removes
water and raises octane, maybe you meant something else.

On Dec 15, 6:44*am, ransley wrote:
On Dec 14, 10:41*pm, " wrote:





On Dec 14, 10:49 pm, ransley wrote:

On Dec 14, 7:57 pm, Puddin' Man wrote:

I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?

Cheers,
Puddin'

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

probably 1oz evaporated. It may work but not as well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

theres a issue of gasoline with ethanol not being compatible , I would
call the manufacturer and ask- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What? Ethanol is 10% gas, it has been for 20+ years and thats all
thats sold here, Alcohol has only good effects on gasolene, it removes
water and raises octane, maybe you meant something else.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I meant Ethanol is 10% alcohol. E85 is totaly different, 85% alcohol
and not a product worth what it costs.

I think you mean that ethanol enhanced gasoline is 10% alcohol.

EJ in NJ

ransley wrote:
On Dec 15, 6:44 am, ransley wrote:
On Dec 14, 10:41 pm, " wrote:





On Dec 14, 10:49 pm, ransley wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:57 pm, Puddin' Man wrote:
I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.
I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.
The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)
I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...
Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?
Cheers,
Puddin'
"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc
probably 1oz evaporated. It may work but not as well.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
theres a issue of gasoline with ethanol not being compatible , I would
call the manufacturer and ask- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What? Ethanol is 10% gas, it has been for 20+ years and thats all
thats sold here, Alcohol has only good effects on gasolene, it removes
water and raises octane, maybe you meant something else.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I meant Ethanol is 10% alcohol. E85 is totaly different, 85% alcohol
and not a product worth what it costs.

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:33:17 -0500, wrote:


It's the color of automatic transmission fluid (bright red) when it's
new. I doubt it would hurt anything, but it might have lost it's
effectiveness. It's certainly not the right color.

I'm aware that the new STA-BIL on the store shelf is red. But it
has a different mix ratio, so I assume it's a different
formulation.

Anybody know what color it was on the shelf 6-8 years ago?

P

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc

Puddin' Man wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:33:17 -0500, wrote:


It's the color of automatic transmission fluid (bright red) when it's
new. I doubt it would hurt anything, but it might have lost it's
effectiveness. It's certainly not the right color.

I'm aware that the new STA-BIL on the store shelf is red. But it
has a different mix ratio, so I assume it's a different
formulation.

Anybody know what color it was on the shelf 6-8 years ago?

P

"Take Yo' Hand Out My Pocket (I Ain't Got Nothing What Belongs To You)!"
- Rice Miller, who probably never even _heard_ of GW Bush, Paulson, etc


If in doubt, throw it out. Why risk having to throw out some gasoline or
disassemble and clean a carburetor? I hate to throw away something
useful, but this is like holding onto expired food or medicine, if it's
not moldy or stinky it probably won't hurt you, but why chance it?

Puddin' Man wrote:
I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, ...
....
I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?
....

Hardly worth the bother imo. For that short a time period unless it's
in a hot location (which wouldn't seem likely for winter storage ),
the loss of volatility in gasoline wouldn't be sufficient to matter much
if the container is tightly closed.

In my 60+ years I've never had an issue w/ any engine over the winter
simply closing the fuel line and running them dry so carb doesn't sit
full and leaving tank as is. Spring use a little fresh to refill carb
and they're fine.

As others said, highly unlikely it would hurt anything, probably would
have some effect but it really isn't of much need ime certainly for less
than 6-months.

--

On Dec 14, 8:57*pm, Puddin' Man wrote:

All this over a $6 bottle of fuel stabilizer...

wrote in message
...
On Dec 14, 8:57 pm, Puddin' Man wrote:

All this over a $6 bottle of fuel stabilizer...

Just about as bad as the discussion on a couple of dollars of old glue.
When protecting a big item or doing a big project I would not want to use
stuff over a year old that may or may not work as expected.

ive got some quarts of stabil that are yellow in color.

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ive got some quarts of stabil that are yellow in color.


Were they once red? Long, long ago?

when we buy quarts or gallons of stabil its yellow , not red like in
stores.

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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:33:17 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:57:33 -0600, Puddin' Man
wrote:


I got this container of STA-BIL, maybe 6 years old, in a 4 oz can like the
old lighter fluid cans (with a squirt spout). Sez 4 oz treats 5 gal's of
gas. Maybe 3 oz left. Can looks fine, no rust or anything.

I squirted a bit into a glass container. Yellow in color, no evident
contamination.

The instructions say to discard after a bit. Most of the instructions
on most of the stuff in this world are subject to the "Squirrelly BS"
consideration. :-)

I don't necessarily trust this stuff, but ...

Would you use it for small 4-stroke motors, 3-4 mos. winter storage?


It's the color of automatic transmission fluid (bright red) when it's
new. I doubt it would hurt anything, but it might have lost it's
effectiveness. It's certainly not the right color.

The new STA-BIL I just got (small container) was red. The old stuff
was reddish orange.
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