I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?



Should be no problem. I have three IP phone lines from two
different adapters and standard phones work fine.

TDD

On Fri 07 Nov 2008 10:07:11p, Bert Byfield told us...

I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?




Yes.

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Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?



Please report back after you try it. Others think it you will be fine.

Lou

On Nov 8, 4:32*am, LouB wrote:
Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Please report back after you try it. *Others think it you will be fine.

Lou

Any of those phone options present the same 2 wire phone interface at
the end of the wire to any phone, so you can mix and match.

On Nov 8, 12:07*am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou

On Nov 8, 11:46*pm, LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou

True, but does Bert?

LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou

Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?

Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou

Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.

HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.


Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:14:45 -0500, LouB wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.


Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.

On Nov 9, 8:18�am, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:14:45 -0500, LouB wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.

Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

all new phones by federal law include a GPS report of exact location
to 911.

but mixing regular phone line with VOIP at great risk.

if a regular phone line contacts a VOIP adapter it will fry your
adapter, they can never be in contact with a standard phone
line........

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 05:25:14 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Nov 9, 8:18?am, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:14:45 -0500, LouB wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.

Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

all new phones by federal law include a GPS report of exact location
to 911.


Good luck with that.

HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.


Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that pipe
has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that rides a
separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS dial tone
still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and the DSL still
worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof antenna for days
the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid cell, mainly for
travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a kid,
the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject to
silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near indestructible.

--
aem sends....

In article ,
wrote:


A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.

As of 2008, all cell phones are supposed to be location capable w/GPS
chips. It has been a requirement since before 2005 that all handsets
sold be location capable and since 2005 the cellphone companies have
been required to be at least 95% location capable, although some got
waivers from that as long as all new handsets being sold were
location-capable (so that people voluntarily holding on to old cell
phones wouldn't be forced to change until theY changed providers or
bought new phones.)
There is some concern, especially in rural areas, however, that the
public safety access points (911-centers) may not be paying to get their
call centers upgraded.
Anyway, for the vast majority of the population, the 911 centers can
now know where a person is even if they can't respond or don't know
where they are.

wrote:
On Nov 9, 8:18�am, wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:14:45 -0500, LouB wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?
Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.
Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.
1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?
2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.
Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.
Lou
A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

all new phones by federal law include a GPS report of exact location
to 911.

But it isn't an exact location. Carriers could choose two methods. One
is assisted GPS and the other is triangulation. GPS is fair and
triangulation is pretty coarse. Plus some states (like mine) choose to
spend the 911 tax that the cell companies are forced to collect on other
stuff. So many call centers don't even have a method to process the data.


but mixing regular phone line with VOIP at great risk.

if a regular phone line contacts a VOIP adapter it will fry your
adapter, they can never be in contact with a standard phone
line........

HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

No, they use ancient signaling methods.


2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.



Depends what carrier you have. What a lot of folks don't realize is that
some carriers are really Mickey Mouse. One of my buddies works in that
industry and I often get to see the equipment and it is interesting to
see how companies choose to operate. One of the carriers has large
battery capacity and backup generators with large fuel tanks on almost
every cell site (some non-critical fill in sites don't have generators)
the other carriers have minimal battery and just a connector to plug in
one of the two or three portable generators they may have to cover a
1,000 square mile area.

We had a recent early snow storm here and there were lots of power
problems because leaves were still on the trees and the snow was heavy
and wet. All of the cell carriers except one dropped off the map within
hours and were still off a day later. And actually the carrier that has
a well designed system runs adds about their network and they are one of
the few ads that aren't hype.

Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.

As of 2008, all cell phones are supposed to be location capable w/GPS
chips. It has been a requirement since before 2005 that all handsets
sold be location capable and since 2005 the cellphone companies have
been required to be at least 95% location capable, although some got
waivers from that as long as all new handsets being sold were
location-capable (so that people voluntarily holding on to old cell
phones wouldn't be forced to change until theY changed providers or
bought new phones.)
There is some concern, especially in rural areas, however, that the
public safety access points (911-centers) may not be paying to get their
call centers upgraded.

It doesn't have to be a rural area because it doesn't work in my area.
And we are being charged to pay for this by way of the e911 tax that the
cell carriers must collect. Some states decided to spend the money on
other stuff.

Anyway, for the vast majority of the population, the 911 centers can
now know where a person is even if they can't respond or don't know
where they are.

aemeijers wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut
by the invading goblins.

Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that pipe
has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that rides a
separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS dial tone
still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and the DSL still
worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof antenna for days
the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid cell, mainly for
travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a kid,
the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject to
silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near indestructible.

--
aem sends....

This is a very interesting discussion, but we still haven't heard back
from the OP as to whether 911 is the reason why he wants to run both
cable and TelCo phone service.

Hey Bert - you still out there?

wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:14:45 -0500, LouB wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.
1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.


Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.

Some VOIP carriers have you register your location so 911 can know where
you live.

Lou

LouB wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:14:45 -0500, LouB wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.
1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than
an ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't
be cut by the invading goblins.

Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

A 911 call from a cell phne doesn't give your exact location. If your
house is on fire or a loved one is in danger, that might be a
consideration. Often, 911 callers are unable to speak or answer
questions for a multitude of reasons. The dispatcher still knows where
the call is coming from and can send help immediately.

Some VOIP carriers have you register your location so 911 can know where
you live.

Lou

But they use a different method and the traditional 911 is much more
robust. With "regular 911" the telco sends info directly to the call
center and everything pops up on the operators screen. Its a robust
system since everything is directly connected. The VoIP carriers
actually make an automated phone call to a regular voice non-emergency
number at the call center you designate. The call has to work, someone
has to answer it and then understand the message and key the information in.

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the
cable company and eliminate the TelCo bill?

Probably.

Still, there are more than a few residences where the bill for one
service is paid by the homeowner and the other by the employer of one of
the residents.

In my own, humble career, on more than a few occasions, I installed a
Qwest line in a residence or business already served by Cox
Communications phone service.

Of course, this perverse combination is immoral and should be outlawed!
--

JR

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.

If they have the tech-savvy to confidently disable the land-line
service, they are probably also operating wireless JAMMING equipment.
--

JR

aemeijers wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut
by the invading goblins.

Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that pipe
has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that rides a
separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS dial tone
still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and the DSL still
worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof antenna for days
the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid cell, mainly for
travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a kid,
the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject to
silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near indestructible.

--
aem sends....

But the fire I'm calling about started in the basement, where I'm
trapped because I tripped running for the phone and broke my hip.

The fire took out my TelCo block so I can't use the land line phone,
which I managed to grab on the way down to the cold, hard concrete slap.

My cell phone fell out of it's holster and slid under the washer.

I'm lying here shivering on the floor, well aware of the irony that the
fire will soon solve the warmth issue, while holding a useless phone in
my hand while staring at my lifeline lying under the washer.

I'll let you know how this all works out...

In article , LouB
wrote:

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.


Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Agreed. So can INCUMBENT telco landline service, but not even close to
"easily".

And you can bet that the INCUMBENT (former RBOC - Regional Bell
Operating Company), still subject to performance testing and
requirements, will provide service in the same emergency that is
SUPERIOR to the lesser-capable [cable TV company] phone service that is
less tested or required to comply with performance minimums.

In the event of "slow dialtone" from landline service in a disaster
area, one need only STAY on the line and dialtone will be presented
eventually.

I suspect that current wireless technology requires constant "redialing"
to eventually, if ever, complete the call as, I believe, wireless calls
fail or time-out after a preset, relatively short interval.
--

JR

In article ,
wrote:

all new phones by federal law include a GPS report of
exact location to 911.

Good luck with that.

It's already here, if not spreading like wildfire.

More and more wireless coverage areas are regulated by entities that are
mandating the deployment of Caller ID and other, improved technologies.

A landline will always have one or more advantages over wireless,
depending on the needs of the user. Of course, the same can be said of
wireless, not to mention the implied advantage of wide area mobility.
--

JR

In article ,
aemeijers wrote:

The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near indestructible.

Ain't it the truth!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/90669950@N00/3016306072/

Combine THAT phone with using "copper" all the way back to the C.O. and
one is almost guaranteed indestructible SERVICE.
--

JR

on 11/8/2008 11:46 PM LouB said the following:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone company.
And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can I plug the two
different types of phone lines into the same telephone?

Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou

I don't have cable phone, but the TWC site says that their E911 sends
the address and phone # of the caller location. I don't know about other
cable companies.
One problem with any cable phone is that it doesn't work during a power
failure, so you better have a cell phone or regular phone handy.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

on 11/9/2008 11:19 AM DerbyDad03 said the following:
aemeijers wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than
an ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't
be cut by the invading goblins.

Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that
pipe has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that
rides a separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS
dial tone still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and
the DSL still worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof
antenna for days the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid
cell, mainly for travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a
kid, the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject
to silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near
indestructible.

--
aem sends....

But the fire I'm calling about started in the basement, where I'm
trapped because I tripped running for the phone and broke my hip.

The fire took out my TelCo block so I can't use the land line phone,
which I managed to grab on the way down to the cold, hard concrete slap.

My cell phone fell out of it's holster and slid under the washer.

I'm lying here shivering on the floor, well aware of the irony that
the fire will soon solve the warmth issue, while holding a useless
phone in my hand while staring at my lifeline lying under the washer.

I'll let you know how this all works out...

Can't you email the local emergency services with that laptop you were
carrying at the time, or did the battery die?

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:24:33 -0600, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

In article , LouB
wrote:

[snip]

And you can bet that the INCUMBENT (former RBOC - Regional Bell
Operating Company), still subject to performance testing and
requirements, will provide service in the same emergency that is
SUPERIOR to the lesser-capable [cable TV company] phone service that is
less tested or required to comply with performance minimums.


When Ike hit here, cable phone was out for 28 hours (or more). Regular
phone service wasn't out at all.

Their (cable company's) battery backup lasted 4 hours, and it was
another 28 hours before they got a generator connected to the cable
node.

[snip]
--
46 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The government of the United States is not, in
any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.

If they have the tech-savvy to confidently disable the land-line
service, they are probably also operating wireless JAMMING equipment.

A pair of dykes in your back pocket is tech-savvy? Most demarc boxes I
have seen, there is an exposed loop of drop wire or house wire next to
them. One snip, and the landline is dead. Or just take a screwdriver,
open the customer side of the box, and unplug the house wiring. Hand
tools are cheap. Jamming equipment is expensive. If they have the cash
or knowledge to have that in their truck, they probably aren't typical
Quick Cash burglars or kids looking for booze.

--
aem sends...

willshak wrote:
on 11/9/2008 11:19 AM DerbyDad03 said the following:
aemeijers wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than
an ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't
be cut by the invading goblins.

Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that
pipe has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that
rides a separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS
dial tone still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and
the DSL still worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof
antenna for days the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid
cell, mainly for travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a
kid, the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject
to silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near
indestructible.

--
aem sends....

But the fire I'm calling about started in the basement, where I'm
trapped because I tripped running for the phone and broke my hip.

The fire took out my TelCo block so I can't use the land line phone,
which I managed to grab on the way down to the cold, hard concrete slap.

My cell phone fell out of it's holster and slid under the washer.

I'm lying here shivering on the floor, well aware of the irony that
the fire will soon solve the warmth issue, while holding a useless
phone in my hand while staring at my lifeline lying under the washer.

I'll let you know how this all works out...

Can't you email the local emergency services with that laptop you were
carrying at the time, or did the battery die?

It was the laptop battery blowing up that caused the fire in the first
place.

I believe it was the result of a very heated discussion in a.h.r
regarding the 911 capabilities of the various phone service options.

Damn that whole circle of life thing.

aemeijers wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company
and eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.

1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than
an ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't
be cut by the invading goblins.


Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that
pipe has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that
rides a separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS
dial tone still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and
the DSL still worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof
antenna for days the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid
cell, mainly for travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a
kid, the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject
to silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near
indestructible.

Good points, all. But do you have a gun? Better, of course, is two guns.

HeyBub wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
George wrote:
LouB wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 8, 12:07 am, Bert Byfield wrote:
I've got two land lines, one cable and one traditional phone
company. And I have a telephone that handles two phone lines. Can
I plug the two different types of phone lines into the same
telephone?
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company
and eliminate the TelCo bill?
Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou
Or some need to use 1980 technology acoustic modems to have their
pacemakers checked.
1. Can't an acoustic modem work with a VoIP line?

2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than
an ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't
be cut by the invading goblins.


Does the term 'single point of failure' ring a bell? If all your
connectivity to the outside world is through a single pipe, if that
pipe has any problems, you are cut off. I have 3rd-party DSL that
rides a separate pair of wires. I have had it go down, and the POTS
dial tone still worked. I have had the POTS dial tone go down, and
the DSL still worked. I have Satellite for TV, but I also have a roof
antenna for days the satt is being cranky. I even have a toy pre-paid
cell, mainly for travel, but I still keep a 2-way radio in the car.

Yes, I always recommend to people that they keep their copper line. I
also recommend they keep one stone-age line-powered corded Real
Telephone plugged into it. Like the ones they had in the house as a
kid, the Ma Bell WE style. Modern phones are disposable, and subject
to silent failures. The old 500/2500 desk sets are damn near
indestructible.

Good points, all. But do you have a gun? Better, of course, is two guns.


Wise people who own guns don't talk about them.

--
aem sends...

Regular line works when the electricity is off.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"LouB" wrote in message
...
Yes, but why?

Would it be cheaper to get a second line from the cable company and
eliminate the TelCo bill?

Some people like regular # for 911 safety.

Lou

911 center also easily overloaded.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"LouB" wrote in message
...
2. In many respects, a cell phone is better for contacting 911 than an
ordinary land-line. A cell phone connection, for example, can't be cut by
the invading goblins.


Yabut a cell phone system can be easily overloaded in a big emergency.

Lou

Got to admit, he's a pretty good writer.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"willshak" wrote in message
news

But the fire I'm calling about started in the basement, where I'm
trapped because I tripped running for the phone and broke my hip.

The fire took out my TelCo block so I can't use the land line phone,
which I managed to grab on the way down to the cold, hard concrete slap.

My cell phone fell out of it's holster and slid under the washer.

I'm lying here shivering on the floor, well aware of the irony that
the fire will soon solve the warmth issue, while holding a useless
phone in my hand while staring at my lifeline lying under the washer.

I'll let you know how this all works out...

Can't you email the local emergency services with that laptop you were
carrying at the time, or did the battery die?

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

aemeijers wrote:

Good points, all. But do you have a gun? Better, of course, is two
guns.
Wise people who own guns don't talk about them.

True.

And REALLY wise people don't talk about their personal business, confess, or
offer excuses.

You may recall the case of a woman shot with a .50 caliber bullet last week
while sitting in her RV at the Texas Motor Speedway. The shooter came
forward to apologize. Seems as if he was innocently target practicing some
2-1/2 miles away!

Mark my words, if he doesn't go to jail, he's at least in for some
significant legal expenses.

HeyBub wrote:
aemeijers wrote:
Good points, all. But do you have a gun? Better, of course, is two
guns.
Wise people who own guns don't talk about them.

True.

And REALLY wise people don't talk about their personal business, confess, or
offer excuses.

You may recall the case of a woman shot with a .50 caliber bullet last week
while sitting in her RV at the Texas Motor Speedway. The shooter came
forward to apologize. Seems as if he was innocently target practicing some
2-1/2 miles away!

Mark my words, if he doesn't go to jail, he's at least in for some
significant legal expenses.


Nah, its Texas.

Lou