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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
HeyBub wrote:
According to Walmart, only one store in Los Angeles: http://www.walmart.com/storeLocator/...e=&x=29&y =10 Panorama City, Porter Ranch, and West Hills are politically within the city limits of Los Angeles and are subject to its zoning and taxation regulations. |
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Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote:
RickH wrote: Women LOVE WalMart, If that is true, then I am not a woman, even though I have carried and delivered four children. In the formative years of our species, the hunter/gatherer societies, the men hunted and the women gathered. To the degree that there's a gene imposing a genetic mandate to gather roots and berries, a female possessing such an attribute would bring home more victuals, thereby standing a better chance of her offspring surviving and passing on that gene. Biologically, that's why women like to "shop;" they're following the innate trait of "gathering," or at least looking for something to gather. Even today, they often bring home fruits and nuts - from the bars. It's possible you're an outlier. We men have it easier. We're just programmed to kill things. |
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On Aug 19, 12:55*pm, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
wrote: RickH wrote: Women LOVE WalMart, If that is true, then I am not a woman, even though I have carried and delivered four children. Go into any wall mart and 90 percent or more of the shoppers are WOMEN, you are the exception. |
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"PanHandler" wrote in message I spoke to a friend who is the CEO of a bicycle manufacturer about his dealings with Wal-Mart. He said he's happy to sell to them, but only on condition that his company's name does not appear on the product, because of what he's forced to do in order to meet their pricing policies. Example: fewer spokes in the wheels, vinyl instead of leather saddles, plastic where metal should be used, unsmoothed welds, no primer, less paint, etc. You only get what you pay for. A great majority of Wal-Mart merchandise is built to a price point, rather than a quality/feature level. Google Vlasic pickles and Wal Mart. |
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"RickH" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 12:55 pm, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: RickH wrote: Women LOVE WalMart, If that is true, then I am not a woman, even though I have carried and delivered four children. Go into any wall mart and 90 percent or more of the shoppers are WOMEN, you are the exception. I am also female, and I only buy the brand name stuff that is exactly what is available at other retailers, only about 25% less at Walmart. I hate Walmart, but I need the lower prices. However, I'm VERY careful about what I buy. |
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"RickH" wrote in message ... On Aug 19, 12:16 pm, "HeyBub" wrote: RickH wrote: Women LOVE WalMart, I know I cant say anything bad about WalMart around my wife. Women expect value and low prices and they get that from Wal Mart. Men on the other hand have the luxury to be idealistic, union loyal, anti-chinese activists, or whatever concept floats their political boat, etc. Whereas most women just want to make the family budget function properly, and Wal Mart lets them accomplish that. For most towns a Wal Mart is a boon to the local economy, because soon after they open, many other smaller retailers and restaurants will infill the area creating economic growth. Chicago union-strapped politicos have kept Wal Mart out of the poor black neighborhoods, against the will of the poor residents. Well those residents are still suffering with no place to buy fresh produce, or much of anything else for that matter, and a serious lack of local jobs. It's interesting where there are, and are not, Walmart stores. New York City - 0 Boston - 0 Chicago - 0 San Francisco - 0 Philadelphia - 2 Washington, D.C. - 0 Los Angeles - 1 Minneapolis - 0 Albany - 1 Providence - 1 Pittsburgh - 2 Boulder - 0 Denver - 1 Seattle - 0 Albany has 3 of them and I live near the Albany burbs, which have an additional 5 . |
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"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message ... On 08/19/08 02:07 am rochacha wrote: Move to NY.....you pay tax on top of tax on top of tax......forever. We lived in NY (Long Island, not NYC) for several years and have no idea to what you are referring. Of the 8.5% ST, 4% went to the state and the rest to the county, but the taxes were not cumulative. Perce They sure are in Upstate NY (middle of the state, not Westchester). |
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mm wrote:
So far, your complaint against Walmart sounds like something you've heard but haven't really thought about, and is one of the nonsense complaints that people who don't like something concoct. I am having a stressful week and when you said "tax base," I was thinking sales tax. I know that the biggest complaint when they were trying to put a Walmart in our community was that it would cause increased traffic in an unincorporated area without the tax base to support the improvements that Walmart didn't want to pay for, and the proposal was rejected. |
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In article ,
Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: Actually, Walmarts don't contribute a lot in taxes Wrong. They pay a LOT in taxes. because they strategically plan so much of their floor space to their grocery department, for which they pay no taxes. Wrong. The contemporary Supercenter dedicates about 1/3 of the store to its grocery operation. Pre-packaged, consumable food is not subject to SALES tax in many areas but virtually everything else is. Given they are not a not-for-profit entity, they pay taxes on their profit. They pay property tax. -- JR |
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Jim Redelfs wrote: Walmart ran afoul of wage and hour requirements YEARS ago when it was revealed that SOME workers had worked off the clock. It is unclear whether the workers were pressured by management to do so. Also hardly WM the only one trying to sneak by. I have worked at a couple hospitals over the years where most of the nurses got a nice "bonus" because we were expected to sign out on time yet also get our work done. Today, the biggest rule, by far and away, is that one does NOT work off the clock. Management is adamant about it. There are large (bilingual) signs at each time clock forbidding working unless clocked-in. and a majority of responses on WM's side appeared to me to defend WM by "blaming the victims" as opposed to claiming that WM did not do such. Walmart is extremely accommodating with merchandise returns and other customer concerns. Still, there will always be the customer that is dissatisfied regardless of any outcome. Remember, also, there are those that, not too much unlike shoplifters, will intentionally take advantage of Walmart's liberal customer satisfaction policies. My wife was mistreated by a returns Associate as was my son-in-law - the latter over a mere package of moldy pita bread. Much depends on the Associate with whom the customer is dealing and how much experience and training that Associate has had. As in it's been quite a few years since I bought anything from them. That's too bad. It is a great place to work and shop. JR WM Associate |
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In article
, " wrote: A high school buddy who is in management at a large food chain tells me wallmart intentionally makes zero profit on groceries, they use it as bait to get customers in the door to buy everything else. This is false. Walmart gives NOTHING away. They may occasionally employ the common retail "loss leader" practice on select items, but they most certainly DO make profit on EVERYTHING else they sell. this makes them tough competition for food stores...... Sheer volume and customer satisfaction is their "edge" on competition. certinally their grocery prices are low ....and just about everything else. JR Walmart stock holder |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
locally wall mart isnt welcome ross twp works hard to keep it out.
one ime buying a site and building a park just so wallmart couldnt locate there killbuck a nearby location had a terrible landslide during construction. wallmart decided the site isnt suitable to build anything, and sued the developers. millions of tons of rock slid onto a major highway and rail line blocking it for over a month. site still isnt stable. it should of never been approved to stat with. I shop at wallmart occasionally but they are far away, with the price of gas its not worth it.... hope they build one close by. but wouldnt buy their so called fresh meat. too much preseratives |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article , (Don Klipstein) wrote: Watch out for WM having WM-specific versions of merchandise, such as lighter weight version of "personal size" frozen pizzas of a specific brand Such merchandise is clearly marketed under Walmart's "Great Value" brand. All merchandise is presented in its original packaging, clearly marked with all required labels such as content, weight, volume, nutrition, etc. and censored CDs. Those, too, are clearly marked. I have yet to verify personally these accusations Yet you perpetuate them. making workers work off-the-clock Wrong. Walmart ran afoul of wage and hour requirements YEARS ago when it was revealed that SOME workers had worked off the clock. It is unclear whether the workers were pressured by management to do so. Today, the biggest rule, by far and away, is that one does NOT work off the clock. Management is adamant about it. There are large (bilingual) signs at each time clock forbidding working unless clocked-in. So do the signs reach out and prevent this or are they there for show? and a majority of responses on WM's side appeared to me to defend WM by "blaming the victims" as opposed to claiming that WM did not do such. Walmart is extremely accommodating with merchandise returns and other customer concerns. For good reason, it costs them almost nothing. Ask any vendor how returns are handled. Someone can purchase an item and literally destroy it and haul it back to the store. Even though there were no defects Walmart simply dings the vendor and makes them eat the cost. Still, there will always be the customer that is dissatisfied regardless of any outcome. Remember, also, there are those that, not too much unlike shoplifters, will intentionally take advantage of Walmart's liberal customer satisfaction policies. My wife was mistreated by a returns Associate as was my son-in-law - the latter over a mere package of moldy pita bread. Much depends on the Associate with whom the customer is dealing and how much experience and training that Associate has had. As in it's been quite a few years since I bought anything from them. That's too bad. It is a great place to work and shop. JR WM Associate |
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George wrote: we are now moving the third wally all of 1/8 of a mile. Let me guess: They are closing an OLD store (no groceries) and opening a MUCH larger "Supercenter". We pretty much had to level a mountain for them. All this because they "create jobs"... It's true. If the arrangement was not beneficial to your area, one can assume that the governing body(ies) would not OFFER special incentives to get the store(s). (Walmart gives instructions on how to sign up for welfare and free medical) Wrong. Prove it. and he can't even get a reduced rate loan to help move to a new building. That shouldn't be too much of a hurdle for a business that is "growing in leaps and bounds" and is mostly constrained by funding. Name a business that doesn't operate under such constraints. -- JR |
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"PanHandler" wrote: All those jobs, all that tax base - gone. (Never was.) Too bad. At minimum wage. Wrong. Not even close. -- JR |
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"PanHandler" wrote: You only get what you pay for. This concept predates Walmart by a few, thousand years. A great majority of Wal-Mart merchandise is built to a price point, rather than a quality/feature level. With the exception of "great majority", I agree with this, particularly with the bicycles you cite. I believe it holds true with other, so-called "durable" goods. -- JR |
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Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article , Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: Actually, Walmarts don't contribute a lot in taxes Wrong. They pay a LOT in taxes. because they strategically plan so much of their floor space to their grocery department, for which they pay no taxes. Wrong. The contemporary Supercenter dedicates about 1/3 of the store to its grocery operation. Pre-packaged, consumable food is not subject to SALES tax in many areas but virtually everything else is. Given they are not a not-for-profit entity, they pay taxes on their profit. They pay property tax. Not in my state. When they want to build a store we obtain the site and prepare it for them for free (corporate welfare by transferring wealth from taxpayers) including the infrastructure such non-trivial costs as utilities, highway interchanges etc and give them a nine year tax exemption. They *explicitly* do not pay property taxes and they pay a very reduced corporate franchise tax or whatever that tax is called to the state. When the nine years is about to run out they move across the street to restart the nine year clock. The third local walmart is about to move across the street as I write this. |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
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Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: "The bitterness of low quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten," -- John Wanamaker That is an excellent, time-honored adage. At least, that has been my experience with Walmart. I'm not surprised. You get what you pay for. When I worked in Electronics, I had more than a few customers come in looking SPECIFICALLY the CHEAPEST DVD player. Warranty and brand name were of NO concern - just that it was the cheapest. Walmart accommodates that customer as well as the informed, discriminating customer with a variety of products. (No, I am not a Walmart "hack" or "plant". In fact, after this spate of contribution, I wouldn't be surprised to get a "cease and desist" letter from my employer.) -- JR |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
In article 7,
Wayne Boatwright wrote: "The bitterness of low quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten," -- John Wanamaker We are very careful to not be caught in thei trap. It's not a "trap" and certainly not for YOU. "Let the buyer beware" is another concept that predates Walmart by a few, thousand years. -- JR |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
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"HeyBub" wrote: We men have it easier. We're just programmed to kill things. Hehehehehehe! George Carlin once said that if women ran things, we'd have NO wars! ....just INTENSE negotiations every 28 days! -- JR |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
Given they
are not a not-for-profit entity, they pay taxes on their profit. They pay property tax. -- JR Yes JR, they pay property tax and yes I have looked into how and what they pay for my area. Because of the local school needs the local property tax around here has almost doubled. Walmart has proudly expressed how they pay the same percentage as everyone else. What they didn't admit is that when their buildings are assessed, they send lawyers to the town, have a hearing an have the property assessment reduced by 40%. Therefore, they don't pay the same as everyone else. Wouldn't you just love it if your property taxes were reduced by 40%. Go ahead and challenge it JR, it's public knowledge. AS for generating jobs. Take the total amount of employees in a walmart. Now add up all the employees and business owners that lost thier job from the small busnesses that went belly up because of walmart. How many more or less jobs are in that town. You will be amazed. Lou |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
In article
, RickH wrote: Go into any wall mart and 90 percent or more of the shoppers are WOMEN, you are the exception. So Samantha was right: She's NOT a woman? big grin (Just making a joke using your semantics.) In the Photo Center, those that stand (some for HOURS) at the kiosks, ordering prints from digital media are, by far and away, disproportionately women. This disproportion is particularly obvious when it is a mother with one or more preschooler in the shopping cart. Mom makes these unfortunate babies and toddlers sit, sometimes for hours, while they ignore their anguished cries of boredom while she orders photos prints. There ought to be a law... -- JR |
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wrote: I hate Walmart Why? but I need the lower prices. Those lower prices must "trump" whatever reasons you have to "hate" Walmart. However, I'm VERY careful about what I buy. Are you LESS careful when shopping elsewhere? -- JR |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
Jim Redelfs wrote:
It's true. If the arrangement was not beneficial to your area, one can assume that the governing body(ies) would not OFFER special incentives to get the store(s). Pork, my dear, pork. At the local government level, but pork nonetheless. |
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Jim Redelfs wrote: In article They may occasionally employ the common retail "loss leader" practice on select items, but they most certainly DO make profit on EVERYTHING else they sell. The price drops are a specific budget item in their marketing budget. r |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
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Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: I am having a stressful week and when you said "tax base," I was thinking sales tax. I know that the biggest complaint when they were trying to put a Walmart in our community was that it would cause increased traffic in an unincorporated area without the tax base to support the improvements that Walmart didn't want to pay for, and the proposal was rejected. The City of Omaha quickly annexes any Walmart store originally built outside of the city limits. This benefits Omaha's sales tax income (handsomely) as well as the property taxes collected. As for Walmart's "inner city" presence, Omaha is about to open its first Walmart store on a site previously occupied by another building - a bowling alley - and definitely INSIDE the city in a location that some would argue qualifies as "inner city". IIRC, it is to be the first TWO-STORY Supercenter. This I have to see. -- JR |
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George wrote: Not in my state. When they want to build a store we obtain the site and prepare it for them for free (corporate welfare by transferring wealth from taxpayers) including the infrastructure such non-trivial costs as utilities, highway interchanges etc And of course building highways, running sewers, etc is not a function of government in your area? Also, nobody ever builds anything near a WalMart to use the infrastructure so it is only built for Walmart and nobody else benefits and n0 other buildings are built so no other tax money comes in. Cities and towns loss leader as much as any retailer. and give them a nine year tax exemption. They *explicitly* do not pay property taxes and they pay a very reduced corporate franchise tax or whatever that tax is called to the state. When the nine years is about to run out they move across the street to restart the nine year clock. The third local walmart is about to move across the street as I write this. Sounds like more of a problem with the local tax authority. WM is pretty much required by its fudiciary responsibility to try and get the most out anyone they are negotiating with. |
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On Aug 20, 8:42*am, Jim Redelfs wrote:
In article , (Don Klipstein) wrote: * Watch out for WM having WM-specific versions of merchandise, such as lighter weight version of "personal size" frozen pizzas of a specific brand Such merchandise is clearly marketed under Walmart's "Great Value" brand. *All merchandise is presented in its original packaging, clearly marked with all required labels such as content, weight, volume, nutrition, etc. and censored CDs. You all talk about "censored" CDs like it's a bad thing. For many, the fact the WM "forces" companies to come out with "censored" version is a very, very good thing. Often, teens want to listen to music that parents object to. Getting the "censored" music is, for many, a reasonable compromise. It is like the old "radio version" of songs. Re the bicycles previously mentioned. Yes, they are probably built differently. But for many kids/parents, a $90 bike with rough welds is better than NOT BUYING a $200 bike thats' really, really great. It's a personal choice, any many people seem to be making it. Those, too, are clearly marked. I have yet to verify personally these accusations Yet you perpetuate them. making workers work off-the-clock Wrong. Walmart ran afoul of wage and hour requirements YEARS ago when it was revealed that SOME workers had worked off the clock. *It is unclear whether the workers were pressured by management to do so. Today, the biggest rule, by far and away, is that one does NOT work off the clock. *Management is adamant about it. *There are large (bilingual) signs at each time clock forbidding working unless clocked-in. and a majority of responses on WM's side appeared to me to defend WM by "blaming the victims" as opposed to claiming that WM did not do such. Walmart is extremely accommodating with merchandise returns and other customer concerns. *Still, there will always be the customer that is dissatisfied regardless of any outcome. Remember, also, there are those that, not too much unlike shoplifters, will intentionally take advantage of Walmart's liberal customer satisfaction policies. My wife was mistreated by a returns Associate as was my son-in-law - the latter over a mere package of moldy pita bread. *Much depends on the Associate with whom the customer is dealing and how much experience and training that Associate has had. As in it's been quite a few years since I bought anything from them. That's too bad. *It is a great place to work and shop. * * * * * * * * * JR WM Associate There are also some major benefits that people overlook. For one, WM is a very green company. Remember back in "the day" when toothpaste came in boxes. Now it doesn't. WM put an end to the practice. They didn't want to pay for the extra cardboard and the extra fuel to ship it. It was a strickly economic decision, but it kepts tons and tons of cardboard out of the supply-line. There are plenty of other things, but often doing what is cheapest is doesn't want is best. Now they are using more natural light in store -- particularly the grocery section. Why? It increases sales. Side effect -- cuts down on electrical usage. When theres a economic incentive to "go green", that's when it makes sense and it will work. |
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Don Klipstein wrote:
Watch out for WM having WM-specific versions of merchandise, such as lighter weight version of "personal size" frozen pizzas of a specific brand and censored CDs. Don't know about that. But I do know Walmart has insisted that manufacturers of some food products reduce the size of their packaging thereby reducing costs. For example, a box of cereal that's half air with the explanation "contents may have settled during shipment" crap. The reality is that the cereal company found that people THOUGHT they were getting more with simply a bigger box! Walmart cracked down on that and saved themselves enormous sums in shipping air around the country. Just look at the "X" ounce box of Kellog's Corn Flakes at Walmart and compare the box to the same ounce-size at your local market. Walmart also insists on reasonable packaging. Again, they've insisted that packaging protect the contents, not serve as a vehicle for advertising. In some cases, the overall weight of the product has been halved! |
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article , George wrote: Not in my state. When they want to build a store we obtain the site and prepare it for them for free (corporate welfare by transferring wealth from taxpayers) including the infrastructure such non-trivial costs as utilities, highway interchanges etc And of course building highways, running sewers, etc is not a function of government in your area? Absolutely. But the government didn't pay for my lot and let me use it for free or install my driveway or extend the mains just for me and install the sewer lateral or water lines into the house. Also, nobody ever builds anything near a WalMart to use the infrastructure so it is only built for Walmart and nobody else benefits and n0 other buildings are built so no other tax money comes in. Not in my area. So far the original Walmarts and the new sites we prepared for or are preparing for them are occupied only by them. The highway interchange, traffic signals etc are solely for their use. And even if they were shared by others why would the taxpayers need to pay for it? Let a developer buy and prepare the property and lease it to their commercial customers or as in the case of some organizations that have multiple properties have their property management division acquire and prepare the site for their use. Cities and towns loss leader as much as any retailer. and give them a nine year tax exemption. They *explicitly* do not pay property taxes and they pay a very reduced corporate franchise tax or whatever that tax is called to the state. When the nine years is about to run out they move across the street to restart the nine year clock. The third local walmart is about to move across the street as I write this. Sounds like more of a problem with the local tax authority. WM is pretty much required by its fudiciary responsibility to try and get the most out anyone they are negotiating with. The program is run by the state and the locals have little to say. Sure, everyone should negotiate for the best deal and then there is greed. I don't see any particular other reason why Walmart needs to be a welfare queen. |
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Bob wrote:
HeyBub wrote: According to Walmart, only one store in Los Angeles: http://www.walmart.com/storeLocator/...e=&x=29&y =10 Panorama City, Porter Ranch, and West Hills are politically within the city limits of Los Angeles and are subject to its zoning and taxation regulations. Ah, okay. They are within the incorporated city limits of Los Angeles. As for zoning, I see how Walmart was able to sneak in (at least to Panorama City). Walmart's location was once a General Motors assembly plant. GM moved out, leaving the area zoned for commercial enterprises, and Walmart moved in before the Los Angeles zoning commission could blink. I guess. I'm in a city only two down from LA in size (NY, LA, Chicago, Houston...), but we don't have any zoning. So I'm not as familiar with how zoning regulations work. |
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I can assure you the reason for the skylights is savings on the electrical
bill. It's not just a 'side effect'. It's the main reason. Natural lighting could hardly increase sales. And it's used equally all across the store, not just the food section. s "Pat" wrote in message ... Now they are using more natural light in store -- particularly the grocery section. Why? It increases sales. Side effect -- cuts down on electrical usage. |
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George wrote: Absolutely. But the government didn't pay for my lot and let me use it for free or install my driveway or extend the mains just for me and install the sewer lateral or water lines into the house. Which, of course they are also not doing solely for WalMart. Every WM I have seen is surrounded by other buildings, many coming to the area specifically for the traffic WM generates. I would find it hard to beleive that the city buys the lots, too. Also, nobody ever builds anything near a WalMart to use the infrastructure so it is only built for Walmart and nobody else benefits and n0 other buildings are built so no other tax money comes in. Not in my area. So far the original Walmarts and the new sites we prepared for or are preparing for them are occupied only by them. Well then your area is the only one in the known galaxy where that has occurred. Heck the WMs LIKE to have other places around because it also tends to drive even more traffic to them. Also, are they really the only ones that the infrastructure goes to? The roads just stop and there is absolutely nobody between where the roads and sewers stopped before and where they go now? Nothing further on? Again, outside normal. The highway interchange, traffic signals etc are solely for their use. And even if they were shared by others why would the taxpayers need to pay for it? Let a developer buy and prepare the property and lease it to their commercial customers or as in the case of some organizations that have multiple properties have their property management division acquire and prepare the site for their use. That is a good question, but I doubt it is a WM only question. Manufacturers, wharehouses, other big boxes, heck even banks get the same economic development incentives in our area and I would bet yours, too. Sounds like more of a problem with the local tax authority. WM is pretty much required by its fudiciary responsibility to try and get the most out anyone they are negotiating with. The program is run by the state and the locals have little to say. Sure, everyone should negotiate for the best deal and then there is greed. I don't see any particular other reason why Walmart needs to be a welfare queen. Which of course boils down the entire discussion, to WM offends you so you don't think they should get what many others of similar size get. |
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On Aug 18, 10:36*pm, Bob wrote:
Dave Bugg wrote: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: Actually, Walmarts don't contribute a lot in taxes because they strategically plan so much of their floor space to their grocery department, for which they pay no taxes. In which locale is that? You're saying that grocery stores don't pay property taxes? Never heard that one before. Most likely the OP was referring to sales tax which is not levied on food in some states And it has been pointed out several times that businesses do _not_ pay sales tax ever, anywhere. The customer pays it. Samantha's "theory" is bogus no matter how you look at it. Harry K |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:01:40 -0400, George
wrote Re "We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!": The contemporary Supercenter dedicates about 1/3 of the store to its grocery operation. Pre-packaged, consumable food is not subject to SALES tax in many areas but virtually everything else is. Given they are not a not-for-profit entity, they pay taxes on their profit. They pay property tax. Not in my state. When they want to build a store we obtain the site and prepare it for them for free (corporate welfare by transferring wealth from taxpayers) including the infrastructure such non-trivial costs as utilities, highway interchanges etc and give them a nine year tax exemption. They *explicitly* do not pay property taxes and they pay a very reduced corporate franchise tax or whatever that tax is called to the state. When the nine years is about to run out they move across the street to restart the nine year clock. The third local walmart is about to move across the street as I write this. Yep, same here. Corporate welfare. The business entity gets the town to do the infrastructure improvement ($30 million on the last project here). The local politicos get the tax revenue to shower on their favorite friends & projects, the taxpayers get to pay the bill and the neighbors get to live with the noise and congestion. Works great for everyone except the tax payers and neighbors. |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:21:19 -0400, mm
wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:58:16 -0700, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply wrote: Actually, Walmarts don't contribute a lot in taxes because they strategically plan so much of their floor space to their grocery department, for which they pay no taxes. I'm no fan of walmart, but that doesn't make sense. I've been to Walmart, and plenty of their floorspace is NOT groceries. 70 or 80 percent, maybe more. That sounds right, considering the Wal-Mart Supercenter here. Whatever groceries people buy at walmart, if there were no walmart, they'd buy it somewhere else. The total amount of groceries sold doesn't vary that much in an area, because everyone eats. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence." --Bertrand Russell |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:43:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2008 09:29:11p, Marina told us... [snip] I can't afford to think "global ecomony" or even "local economy" when I need to make every single penny count. Wal-Mart generally has the best prices on almost anything I need to buy. I really can't afford to not shop there. If I find good specials at other stores, then I go to those stores, but inevitably I end up at Wal-Mart for a lot of my shopping. I try to limit driving (to use less gas), and combine trips when possible. I get groceries at whatever store I'm going to for something else. I have different reasons for different stores, including: Wal-Mart: lower prices, and sometimes the only place locally to get some things. The lowest gasoline price ($3.49) in town yesterday. Brookshire's: I get prescriptions filled there, and it's easy to get groceries while waiting Kroger: the only place in town to get out-of-town newspapers inside the store. I really don't like newspaper vending machines I agree with you about the typical customers. I make it a point to shop at times where there is a minimum number of shoppers, either extremely early or extremely late. I like to go to Wal-Mart between 2 and 4 AM. There's few customers, the traffic is light, and it's not so hot outside (I was in the middle of the south central hot spot almost 3 weeks ago, but it's in the seventies now). -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence." --Bertrand Russell |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:10:04 -0500, "PanHandler"
wrote: [snip] A great majority of Wal-Mart merchandise is built to a price point, rather than a quality/feature level. Including really thin plastic parts that break much too easily, making the product useless. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence." --Bertrand Russell |
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"We kept Wal-Mart out of our town!"
Wayne Boatwright wrote:
I can't afford to think "global ecomony" or even "local economy" when I need to make every single penny count. Wal-Mart generally has the best prices on almost anything I need to buy. I really can't afford to not shop there. If I find good specials at other stores, then I go to those stores, but inevitably I end up at Wal-Mart for a lot of my shopping. We have no Wal-Mart very close to us, but I find when traveling, especially on vacations involving camping, they're very useful. Unlike Target, they have an excellent sporting goods and camping department. I also like Fred Meyer (Kroger owns them now) for that type of stuff when up in Oregon. The Wal-Marts closest to us have no grocery stores, so I can't comment on them. But from what I've seen of them, they don't have a lot of what I'd be buying anyway, Costco has much better quality stuff like meat, fish, and produce. What I like about Wal-Mart is that unlike stores like Safeway and Lucky, they don't gouge on everything other than what's on sale that week. When I "save" more than I spend at Safeway it means that everything I purchased was less than half the regular price. |
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