Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

" wrote in news:0f83d772-4bde-
:

Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason


Well, if you make under the deck inaccessable, you just may find them
sitting in the chairs on the deck!

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

I know this works. Cut to fit and fasten chicken wire to the inside
of the latticework. The chicken wire will have to extend 2-3 feet
below to stop the digging. Hardware cloth is tougher but maybe
overkill. You may need to add a hinged access door.

It might be easier, more cost effective in the long run and easier
just to buy more rocks, apply an animal repellant and use plants that
animals dislike (mint, herbs, thorny bushes, briars, etc.)

I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under
decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very
well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup.

I put a 6x6 PT border under my deck and loaded it up with crushed
limestone, mainly for drainage. I found that animals don't like
walking on the sharp stones, and neither do I. Good luck.

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Whenever you think they are in there, get a weapon of your choice and climb
in after them. They will tire of this challenge very quickly.

wrote:

Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. ....

This is what assault weapons were made for!

Have you called your county animal control yet?
They set traps for these suckers.

Dick

" wrote in news:0f83d772-4bde-4069-
:

Do you folks have any advice for my sister?


Get a dachshund and let him loose under the porch.

In article ,
Phisherman wrote:

I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under
decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very
well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup.

With racoons the only workable way is to trap them and terminate them.

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?


Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties? Would you
rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words, what problem are you
trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving the 'coons may not be the
solution.

TD wrote:

Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties?
Would you rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words,
what problem are you trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving
the 'coons may not be the solution.




Rabies.

Oh, well. That's not really a problem.

They have shots for that.

On 8/4/2008 5:47 AM HeyBub spake thus:

Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties?
Would you rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words,
what problem are you trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving
the 'coons may not be the solution.

Not sure, but having had skunks living under my house at one time, I'm
going to guess: the stink?


--
"Wikipedia ... it reminds me ... of dogs barking idiotically through
endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it.
It drags itself out of the dark abyss of pish, and crawls insanely up
the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and
doodle. It is balder and dash."

- With apologies to H. L. Mencken

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals?

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:39:22 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals?

Urine works on moles in the yard. They move next door :-))

(wiki quote)

Animal repellent

Taking advantage of the scents of male animals' urine, some companies
sell animal urine, usually coyote or fox, to cities and other
organizations to repel those animals by essentially "marking their
territory". The scents of carnivore urine (bobcat, mountain lion, and
wolf, in addition to coyote and fox) are also sold to the public in
pelletized form to repel garden browsing by herbivores such as
squirrels and rabbits, as well as deterring domestic or feral cats
from marking territory, or catching birds, in gardens. When the
pellets are sprinkled on a target area, the intruding animal will
instinctively recognize the territorial urinary scent of its predators
and avoid the area.

I had a family of opossums move into a space under a staircase in my garage.
We used to keep the door partly open for a cat.

I went out there one night and started screaming at them.

The family moved out that night. Didn't like the neighbors, apparently.


" wrote in message
...
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

TD wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in news:i-ednQly0-
:

TD wrote:

Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties?
Would you rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words,
what problem are you trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving
the 'coons may not be the solution.




Rabies.

Oh, well. That's not really a problem.

They have shots for that.




Are you volunteering to be bitten by the critters?

Uh, no. But thanks for asking.

Art wrote:
I had a family of opossums move into a space under a staircase in my
garage. We used to keep the door partly open for a cat.

I went out there one night and started screaming at them.

The family moved out that night. Didn't like the neighbors,
apparently.


Could be, but opossums are the gypsies of the animal world. They hang around
one spot for a couple of days, then move on to their next stop. I have a
opossum that visits me (I recognize it). He stops by about once every eight
weeks or so, chows down on the outside cat's never-empty food bowl, then
moves on. He's (or maybe she's) been doing this circuit for almost two
years.

Every once in a while, one of the cats gets ****ed and chases him/her up a
tree, but, in large measure, the two species tolerate each other.

Oren wrote in
:

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me
at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one
more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in
the day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough
all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot).
What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their
entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in
and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround
the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will
do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to
decide what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals?

ROTFL! Well, I guess he is!!

Mark wrote in
:

" wrote in
news:0f83d772-4bde-4069-
:

Do you folks have any advice for my sister?


Get a dachshund and let him loose under the porch.


Yea, they're kinda expendable I suppose.

nick hull wrote in news:nhull-478FF5.06523104082008
@blackdragon.nntpserver.com:

In article ,
Phisherman wrote:

I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under
decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very
well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup.

With racoons the only workable way is to trap them and terminate them.

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


What about trap and relocate?

On Aug 5, 6:05*am, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote:
nick hull wrote in news:nhull-478FF5.06523104082008
:

In article ,
*Phisherman wrote:

I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possumsunder
decks but not squirrels. * I found trapping squirrels works very
well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup.

Withracoonsthe only workable way is to trap them and terminate them.

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com**

What about trap and relocate?

Illegal in many places, and not terribly effective. If you have a "habitat" that
is attractive to these critters, there is always a supply of them waiting in the
wings to move in as soon as you create a vacancy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks one and all for the answers. Lethal is illegal where she
lives and live traps just relocate members of an apparently
inexhaustable supply of racoons who ". . .move in as soon as (she)
create(s) a vacancy. . ."

-J

Measure its maximum height, add about 12", go to a big box like Home
Depot,
and get a sufficient amount of "hardware cloth". This is a steel mesh
that you can staple
to the porch portions, is able to be have the bottom part put into a
trenched area
at the base, then put the dirt back and consider lining it with
stones. Or else consider
simply filling the little trench with concrete.
But also consider correcting the conditions that encouraged the
animals to be there in the
first place. Clean it out well, and then spread a fair amount of cheap
men's aftershave
around with an aerosol sprayer to discourage the squirrels.



On Aug 3, 7:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at
least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more
thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the
day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all
around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What
has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance
they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I
don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do
the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide
what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

When we were having problems with moles in the country, we had all the
guys
pee in the holes. Within a week, they were all gone. But I've
suggested in another
post an alternative to using urine as the scent source.


On Aug 5, 7:49 am, " wrote:


Thanks one and all for the answers. Lethal is illegal where she
lives and live traps just relocate members of an apparently
inexhaustable supply of racoons who ". . .move in as soon as (she)
create(s) a vacancy. . ."

-J

Rabies.

Oh, well. That's not really a problem.
They have shots for that.

Are you volunteering to be bitten by the critters?

I had a raccoon come in the house once. I chased it around with a broom. It
peed as it ran away, and never even bared teeth at me (I avoided cornering
it). Eventually it overcame its panic and remembered the way out. My old
(deaf and blind in one eye) dog never even saw it, but found the pee
fascinating.

What really put them out of my life, though, was fanatically locking up all
my food and garbage with metal cans in a big trashcan box, and child locks
on anything they could get their hands on.

i use havaheart boxtrap to catch and relocate them. mothballs irritates
them.

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http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:07:59 -0500, Red Green
wrote:

Oren wrote in
:

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and
replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me
at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one
more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground
squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in
the day/evenings.

Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough
all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig
underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the
fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot).
What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their
entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in
and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround
the deck.

I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will
do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to
decide what to try this time. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance
Jason

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals?

ROTFL! Well, I guess he is!!

Who's on First?!

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:56:40 -0400, "Art"
wrote:

I had a family of opossums move into a space under a staircase in my garage.
We used to keep the door partly open for a cat.

I went out there one night and started screaming at them.

The family moved out that night. Didn't like the neighbors, apparently.



When I get a stain in a shirt, I "Shout-it-Out'!

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote:


What about trap and relocate?

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote:


What about trap and relocate?

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.

blow gun
bow and arrow
cross bow
wrist rocket
old fashioned lawn jarts
thumper car

there's always alternatives

charlie wrote:

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.

blow gun
bow and arrow
cross bow
wrist rocket
old fashioned lawn jarts
thumper car

there's always alternatives

Including a borrowed pit bull.

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:12:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote:


What about trap and relocate?

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.


I trap and relocate all the time. I guess the Berkeley folks will
secretly use anti-freeze.

So, don't tell anyone. I'm tempted to ask some of the other laws in Berkley.
But as a political conservative, I'm sure I'd be offended.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote:


What about trap and relocate?

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.

"charlie" wrote in news:g7aggu$njn$1
@aioe.org:


"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
wrote:


What about trap and relocate?

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.

blow gun
bow and arrow
cross bow
wrist rocket
old fashioned lawn jarts
thumper car

there's always alternatives



Don't forget ****ing them off.

In article ,
Oren wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:39:22 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals?

Urine works on moles in the yard. They move next door :-))

(wiki quote)

Animal repellent

Taking advantage of the scents of male animals' urine, some companies
sell animal urine, usually coyote or fox, to cities and other
organizations to repel those animals by essentially "marking their
territory". The scents of carnivore urine (bobcat, mountain lion, and
wolf, in addition to coyote and fox) are also sold to the public in
pelletized form to repel garden browsing by herbivores such as
squirrels and rabbits, as well as deterring domestic or feral cats
from marking territory, or catching birds, in gardens. When the
pellets are sprinkled on a target area, the intruding animal will
instinctively recognize the territorial urinary scent of its predators
and avoid the area.

Yeah, right. BTDT, doesn't work.

In article ,
Red Green wrote:

nick hull wrote in news:nhull-478FF5.06523104082008
@blackdragon.nntpserver.com:

In article ,
Phisherman wrote:

I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under
decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very
well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup.

With racoons the only workable way is to trap them and terminate them.

Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


What about trap and relocate?

Seems I read somewhere that to keep a raccoon from coming back, you have
to move it 25 miles. And then it's in unfamiliar territory, and its
chances of survival are near zero.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
So, don't tell anyone. I'm tempted to ask some of the other laws in
Berkley. But as a political conservative, I'm sure I'd be offended.



What about trap and relocate?


Here's one that'll cause you to drop your donut: Berkeley has a tool lending
library.

That's right. You can "check out" ladders, post-hole diggers, scaffolding,
cement mixers, etc. Everything from hammers to (I guess) forklifts.

This works out swell for the week-end warrior, but I don't think there are
any tool rental stores in the town.

[From another newsgroup]

Well, maybe not rape, but this Washington state masked gang HAS killed
almost a dozen cats and attacked both dogs and humans.

The pack is lead by "one really big, bad dude... a monster... They are in
command." The article reads like one has to step over the bodies littering
the area.

Various solutions have been tried: trapping, dogs, negotiation, trading
territory for peace. Nothing has worked. Strangely, no one in the article
has suggested using ol' double-barreled Betsy to blow their furry butts to
animal kingdom come. Possibly because all this mayhem is happening in
Olympia, the most liberal city in the state.

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On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
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What about trap and relocate?

Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns.

blow gun
bow and arrow
cross bow
wrist rocket
old fashioned lawn jarts
thumper car

there's always alternatives



Don't forget ****ing them off.

don't know about you, but the thumper cars do that for me so that's why i
added them to the list.

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:11:02 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
Oren wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:39:22 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote:

On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister?

I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and

Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck.
Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom
this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H

Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals?

Urine works on moles in the yard. They move next door :-))

(wiki quote)

Animal repellent

Taking advantage of the scents of male animals' urine, some companies
sell animal urine, usually coyote or fox, to cities and other
organizations to repel those animals by essentially "marking their
territory". The scents of carnivore urine (bobcat, mountain lion, and
wolf, in addition to coyote and fox) are also sold to the public in
pelletized form to repel garden browsing by herbivores such as
squirrels and rabbits, as well as deterring domestic or feral cats
from marking territory, or catching birds, in gardens. When the
pellets are sprinkled on a target area, the intruding animal will
instinctively recognize the territorial urinary scent of its predators
and avoid the area.

Yeah, right. BTDT, doesn't work.

BTDT? Private donation or commercial product?