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Do you folks have any advice for my sister?
I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason |
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason I know this works. Cut to fit and fasten chicken wire to the inside of the latticework. The chicken wire will have to extend 2-3 feet below to stop the digging. Hardware cloth is tougher but maybe overkill. You may need to add a hinged access door. It might be easier, more cost effective in the long run and easier just to buy more rocks, apply an animal repellant and use plants that animals dislike (mint, herbs, thorny bushes, briars, etc.) I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup. I put a 6x6 PT border under my deck and loaded it up with crushed limestone, mainly for drainage. I found that animals don't like walking on the sharp stones, and neither do I. Good luck. |
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I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out
from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Whenever you think they are in there, get a weapon of your choice and climb in after them. They will tire of this challenge very quickly. |
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" wrote in news:0f83d772-4bde-4069-
: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? Get a dachshund and let him loose under the porch. |
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Phisherman wrote: I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup. With racoons the only workable way is to trap them and terminate them. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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TD wrote:
Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties? Would you rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words, what problem are you trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving the 'coons may not be the solution. Rabies. Oh, well. That's not really a problem. They have shots for that. |
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On 8/4/2008 5:47 AM HeyBub spake thus:
Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties? Would you rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words, what problem are you trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving the 'coons may not be the solution. Not sure, but having had skunks living under my house at one time, I'm going to guess: the stink? -- "Wikipedia ... it reminds me ... of dogs barking idiotically through endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it. It drags itself out of the dark abyss of pish, and crawls insanely up the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and doodle. It is balder and dash." - With apologies to H. L. Mencken |
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On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote:
Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff
wrote: On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals? |
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:39:22 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff wrote: On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals? Urine works on moles in the yard. They move next door :-)) (wiki quote) Animal repellent Taking advantage of the scents of male animals' urine, some companies sell animal urine, usually coyote or fox, to cities and other organizations to repel those animals by essentially "marking their territory". The scents of carnivore urine (bobcat, mountain lion, and wolf, in addition to coyote and fox) are also sold to the public in pelletized form to repel garden browsing by herbivores such as squirrels and rabbits, as well as deterring domestic or feral cats from marking territory, or catching birds, in gardens. When the pellets are sprinkled on a target area, the intruding animal will instinctively recognize the territorial urinary scent of its predators and avoid the area. |
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I had a family of opossums move into a space under a staircase in my garage.
We used to keep the door partly open for a cat. I went out there one night and started screaming at them. The family moved out that night. Didn't like the neighbors, apparently. " wrote in message ... Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason |
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TD wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in news:i-ednQly0- : TD wrote: Why are raccoons under the porch a problem? Loud, raucous parties? Would you rather have armadillos under the porch? In other words, what problem are you trying to solve? Whatever the problem, moving the 'coons may not be the solution. Rabies. Oh, well. That's not really a problem. They have shots for that. Are you volunteering to be bitten by the critters? Uh, no. But thanks for asking. |
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Art wrote:
I had a family of opossums move into a space under a staircase in my garage. We used to keep the door partly open for a cat. I went out there one night and started screaming at them. The family moved out that night. Didn't like the neighbors, apparently. Could be, but opossums are the gypsies of the animal world. They hang around one spot for a couple of days, then move on to their next stop. I have a opossum that visits me (I recognize it). He stops by about once every eight weeks or so, chows down on the outside cat's never-empty food bowl, then moves on. He's (or maybe she's) been doing this circuit for almost two years. Every once in a while, one of the cats gets ****ed and chases him/her up a tree, but, in large measure, the two species tolerate each other. |
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Oren wrote in
: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff wrote: On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals? ROTFL! Well, I guess he is!! |
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Mark wrote in
: " wrote in news:0f83d772-4bde-4069- : Do you folks have any advice for my sister? Get a dachshund and let him loose under the porch. Yea, they're kinda expendable I suppose. |
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nick hull wrote in news:nhull-478FF5.06523104082008
@blackdragon.nntpserver.com: In article , Phisherman wrote: I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup. With racoons the only workable way is to trap them and terminate them. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** What about trap and relocate? |
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On Aug 5, 6:05*am, wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: nick hull wrote in news:nhull-478FF5.06523104082008 : In article , *Phisherman wrote: I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possumsunder decks but not squirrels. * I found trapping squirrels works very well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup. Withracoonsthe only workable way is to trap them and terminate them. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ ** Posted fromhttp://www.teranews.com** What about trap and relocate? Illegal in many places, and not terribly effective. If you have a "habitat" that is attractive to these critters, there is always a supply of them waiting in the wings to move in as soon as you create a vacancy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks one and all for the answers. Lethal is illegal where she lives and live traps just relocate members of an apparently inexhaustable supply of racoons who ". . .move in as soon as (she) create(s) a vacancy. . ." -J |
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Measure its maximum height, add about 12", go to a big box like Home
Depot, and get a sufficient amount of "hardware cloth". This is a steel mesh that you can staple to the porch portions, is able to be have the bottom part put into a trenched area at the base, then put the dirt back and consider lining it with stones. Or else consider simply filling the little trench with concrete. But also consider correcting the conditions that encouraged the animals to be there in the first place. Clean it out well, and then spread a fair amount of cheap men's aftershave around with an aerosol sprayer to discourage the squirrels. On Aug 3, 7:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason |
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When we were having problems with moles in the country, we had all the
guys pee in the holes. Within a week, they were all gone. But I've suggested in another post an alternative to using urine as the scent source. On Aug 5, 7:49 am, " wrote: Thanks one and all for the answers. Lethal is illegal where she lives and live traps just relocate members of an apparently inexhaustable supply of racoons who ". . .move in as soon as (she) create(s) a vacancy. . ." -J |
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Rabies.
Oh, well. That's not really a problem. They have shots for that. Are you volunteering to be bitten by the critters? I had a raccoon come in the house once. I chased it around with a broom. It peed as it ran away, and never even bared teeth at me (I avoided cornering it). Eventually it overcame its panic and remembered the way out. My old (deaf and blind in one eye) dog never even saw it, but found the pee fascinating. What really put them out of my life, though, was fanatically locking up all my food and garbage with metal cans in a big trashcan box, and child locks on anything they could get their hands on. |
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i use havaheart boxtrap to catch and relocate them. mothballs irritates
them. ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:07:59 -0500, Red Green
wrote: Oren wrote in : On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff wrote: On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and replaced with a concrete patio. However, I think that will cost me at least $10K. I'm going to get an estimate but want to try one more thing before I do that. Right now I have at least two ground squirrels and a raccoon living there who come out periodically in the day/evenings. Do you have any ideas? A good idea is to dig a trench deep enough all around it and put in short fencing so the animals can't dig underneath. However, that's too hard for me, and I can't buy the fencing small enough (it's in huge rolls at Lowe's/Home Depot). What has worked is rocks--but wherever I put them to block their entrance they just avoid that area and dig another hole to get in and out. I don't think I can find enough rocks to totally surround the deck. I have hired a high-school kid to help me in a few weeks. He will do the physical labor based on my idea. So, I have a few weeks to decide what to try this time. Any ideas? Thanx in advance Jason Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals? ROTFL! Well, I guess he is!! Who's on First?! |
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:56:40 -0400, "Art"
wrote: I had a family of opossums move into a space under a staircase in my garage. We used to keep the door partly open for a cat. I went out there one night and started screaming at them. The family moved out that night. Didn't like the neighbors, apparently. When I get a stain in a shirt, I "Shout-it-Out'! |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: What about trap and relocate? Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns. blow gun bow and arrow cross bow wrist rocket old fashioned lawn jarts thumper car there's always alternatives |
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charlie wrote:
Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns. blow gun bow and arrow cross bow wrist rocket old fashioned lawn jarts thumper car there's always alternatives Including a borrowed pit bull. |
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:12:42 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: What about trap and relocate? Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns. I trap and relocate all the time. I guess the Berkeley folks will secretly use anti-freeze. |
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So, don't tell anyone. I'm tempted to ask some of the other laws in Berkley.
But as a political conservative, I'm sure I'd be offended. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: What about trap and relocate? Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns. |
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"charlie" wrote in news:g7aggu$njn$1
@aioe.org: "Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: What about trap and relocate? Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns. blow gun bow and arrow cross bow wrist rocket old fashioned lawn jarts thumper car there's always alternatives Don't forget ****ing them off. |
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In article ,
Oren wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:39:22 -0700, Oren wrote: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff wrote: On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals? Urine works on moles in the yard. They move next door :-)) (wiki quote) Animal repellent Taking advantage of the scents of male animals' urine, some companies sell animal urine, usually coyote or fox, to cities and other organizations to repel those animals by essentially "marking their territory". The scents of carnivore urine (bobcat, mountain lion, and wolf, in addition to coyote and fox) are also sold to the public in pelletized form to repel garden browsing by herbivores such as squirrels and rabbits, as well as deterring domestic or feral cats from marking territory, or catching birds, in gardens. When the pellets are sprinkled on a target area, the intruding animal will instinctively recognize the territorial urinary scent of its predators and avoid the area. Yeah, right. BTDT, doesn't work. |
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Red Green wrote: nick hull wrote in news:nhull-478FF5.06523104082008 @blackdragon.nntpserver.com: In article , Phisherman wrote: I've seen skunks, groundhogs, chip monks, raccoons, possums under decks but not squirrels. I found trapping squirrels works very well--either for relocation or making a very tasty soup. With racoons the only workable way is to trap them and terminate them. Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/ ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** What about trap and relocate? Seems I read somewhere that to keep a raccoon from coming back, you have to move it 25 miles. And then it's in unfamiliar territory, and its chances of survival are near zero. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
So, don't tell anyone. I'm tempted to ask some of the other laws in Berkley. But as a political conservative, I'm sure I'd be offended. What about trap and relocate? Here's one that'll cause you to drop your donut: Berkeley has a tool lending library. That's right. You can "check out" ladders, post-hole diggers, scaffolding, cement mixers, etc. Everything from hammers to (I guess) forklifts. This works out swell for the week-end warrior, but I don't think there are any tool rental stores in the town. |
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Psycho raccoons rampage, riot, rape, and kill
[From another newsgroup]
Well, maybe not rape, but this Washington state masked gang HAS killed almost a dozen cats and attacked both dogs and humans. The pack is lead by "one really big, bad dude... a monster... They are in command." The article reads like one has to step over the bodies littering the area. Various solutions have been tried: trapping, dogs, negotiation, trading territory for peace. Nothing has worked. Strangely, no one in the article has suggested using ol' double-barreled Betsy to blow their furry butts to animal kingdom come. Possibly because all this mayhem is happening in Olympia, the most liberal city in the state. [link no longer works] http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...NEWS/608210327 |
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"Red Green" wrote in message ... "charlie" wrote in news:g7aggu$njn$1 @aioe.org: "Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:10:21 -0500, Red Green wrote: What about trap and relocate? Berkeley, CA won't allow this OR guns. blow gun bow and arrow cross bow wrist rocket old fashioned lawn jarts thumper car there's always alternatives Don't forget ****ing them off. don't know about you, but the thumper cars do that for me so that's why i added them to the list. |
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Racoons under the porch
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:11:02 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: In article , Oren wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:39:22 -0700, Oren wrote: On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Heathcliff wrote: On Aug 3, 6:43 pm, " wrote: Do you folks have any advice for my sister? I need some help trying one last thing about keeping the animals out from under my deck. The best choice is to have it ripped up and Mark your territory the way animals do - pee around/under the deck. Use a jar if you are shy. I am serious, I have known people for whom this worked -- try it for a few days, the cost is zero. -- H Are you suggesting a ****ing contest with wild animals? Urine works on moles in the yard. They move next door :-)) (wiki quote) Animal repellent Taking advantage of the scents of male animals' urine, some companies sell animal urine, usually coyote or fox, to cities and other organizations to repel those animals by essentially "marking their territory". The scents of carnivore urine (bobcat, mountain lion, and wolf, in addition to coyote and fox) are also sold to the public in pelletized form to repel garden browsing by herbivores such as squirrels and rabbits, as well as deterring domestic or feral cats from marking territory, or catching birds, in gardens. When the pellets are sprinkled on a target area, the intruding animal will instinctively recognize the territorial urinary scent of its predators and avoid the area. Yeah, right. BTDT, doesn't work. BTDT? Private donation or commercial product? |
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