I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

On Jan 26, 5:56*pm, "Walter Cohen" wrote:
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. *The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? *I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. *I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

Floor jack.

Walter Cohen wrote:
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

You need three wheel chocks what ever jack you feel most comfortable using.

For me, a floor jack with at least a 16" lift was best.

A lot depends upon what vehicle you are lifting.

For my uses, a bottle jack just doesn't have enough lift.

There is no "one size fits all" answer.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:56:57 -0500, "Walter Cohen"
wrote:

I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

Floor jack! DO not crawl under this vehicle!! A bottle jack tends to
slip; causing the vehicle to fall...even with a floor jack.

Perform this work on a flat surface and block the tires on the ground.


Oren
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I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to
change a flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard
equipment jacks that come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up
the corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor
jack? I want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack
while I'm working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack
stands for safety.
Thanks.
Walter

Floor jack. Bottle jacks have small lift points, harder to position,
shorter lift, and no give should the car move a quarter inch or so
during the lift, all of which a floor jack makes a lot more forgiving.
Besides, there being types made for the job.

Always block the other wheels, AT LEAST the wheel kitty-corner to the
wheel you're lifting. If lifting a front wheel set the emergency brake.
Always have car in Park for changing tires, never neutral.
Jack stands not usually necessary for changing a tire but a good idea
because "stuff" does happen. Only lift as far as necessary, never more.

Never hi jack,

Twayne


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On Jan 26, 2:56*pm, "Walter Cohen" wrote:
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. *The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? *I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. *I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

Floor Jack. And if you are going to get under the vehicle ALWAYS use
jack stands.

if you are getting under the car make sure its sturdy. don't trust a
jack, maybe lower the weight onto a solid timber or something like
that.

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What are you going to use when you get a flat elsewhere? The scissors jack
works just fine. I've lifted up full-size vans on the "crappy standard
equipment jack".

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.


The jack that comes with the car is for changing tires. What's wrong with
that?

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for
safety.

Thanks.
Walter

You can get floor jack and jack stands combo. They are cheap.

get a good floor jack
bottle jacks have their place but are less safe

Walter Cohen wrote:

I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

I have both. For my Jeep Cherokee, when changing the font tires
(rotation) my floor jack doesn't have enough lift, so I use the bottle
jack. Those AND a pair of jack stands are what you need. They are
cheap enough in any event, and you will eventually need all of them.

Bob Jones wrote:
"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.


The jack that comes with the car is for changing tires. What's wrong with
that?

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for
safety.

Thanks.
Walter

You can get floor jack and jack stands combo. They are cheap.


Agree with the floor jack and jackstands, disagree with the cheap. The
20-buck specials tend to leak down, even when almost brand new. I'm sure
most are made in China these days, but look for one that isn't visibly
leaking past the seals, and has some fit and finish to it. It shouldn't
look like a blacksmith made it out back. As to the jackstands- stuff
that can kill you is no place to cut corners. No cheap cast ones, no
spot-welded thin stamped metal ones. Nothing that shows any bare metal
that will rust, especially in joints.

aem sends...

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:34:05 GMT, "Bob Jones" wrote:


snip


You can get floor jack and jack stands combo. They are cheap.


That's what I use for my Tundra truck tire rotation, as recommended by
a master mechanic. Fast, easy, and safe.

On Jan 26, 5:56*pm, "Walter Cohen" wrote:
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. *The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? *I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. *I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

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"Walter Cohen" wrote...

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I want
to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm working on
the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Bottle jack is easier to store, and you can take it with you when you travel...

If you're talking cars and light trucks under one ton, then a floor jack
will be of great use.


s


"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for
safety.

Thanks.
Walter

On Jan 26, 9:34*pm, "Bob Jones" wrote:
"Walter Cohen" wrote in message

...

I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. *The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

The jack that comes with the car is for changing tires. What's wrong with
that?

That's what I was thinking too. He wants the jack for changing
flats. How many flats does anyone have in their driveway, as opposed
to elsewhere? Or how many total that it's worth getting a different
jack?

On the other hand, if you do more work on your own car, like brakes,
then a floor jack is the way to go.






What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? *I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. *I know I need to also get some jack stands for
safety.

Thanks.
Walter

You can get floor jack and jack stands combo. They are cheap.

Ok - thanks to all for your suggestions!

Walter
"S. Barker" wrote in message
...
If you're talking cars and light trucks under one ton, then a floor jack
will be of great use.


s


"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. I know I need to also get some jack stands for
safety.

Thanks.
Walter

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack?

Personally, I much perfer the floor jack for the use you stated. You
give up some portability, and it takes more room to store, but it's
far quicker and more convenient, you don't have to kneel down to place
it, and the jacking proceedure is easier.

But check the jack-placement points on your cars, and look at the
factory jack to see how it engages them. I've had to fabricate a
block to fit on the jack so it wouldn't crimp or crush the metal ridge
on the jacking point. It's just a 4" length of 2X4 with a slot cut in
it.

-Zz

On Jan 27, 6:10*am, "Walter Cohen" wrote:
Ok - thanks to all for your suggestions!

Walter"S. Barker" wrote in message

...



If you're talking cars and light trucks under one ton, then a floor jack
will be of great use.

s

"Walter Cohen" wrote in message
...
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. *The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? *I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. *I know I need to also get some jack stands for
safety.

Thanks.
Walter- Hide quoted text -

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Another consideration is that a bottle jack often will not fit under
an axle, especially with a flat tire. There is a place for both so if
you do much work, you should have both.

Harry K

Walter Cohen wrote:

The crappy standard equipment jacks that come in a car I just don't trust.

At least they fit their vehicles well.

I'm no expert, but I don't think OE jacks are that crappy, at least
compared to no-name Chinese scissor jacks. The OE ones I saw were
made in the US, Canada, or Japan, one was rated for 2.25 tons (a ton
more than its car), compared to 1.5 tons for most aftermarket scissor
jacks, the OE metal was thicker, and the screw rods had smooth 90-deg.
threads instead of rough 45-deg. threads (it seemed that the Chinese
jacks used ordinary threaded rod). It wouldn't surprise me if car
makers test the jacks they buy from suppliers more thoroughly than
Chinese jack makers test their own products.

I once tested some Chinese hydraulic floor jacks by raising one corner
of my fairly light car overnight. They all sank 0.5" - 2" overnight.
I tried the same test with my father's ancient Sears compact floor
jack, made in Taiwan, and it didn't sink at all.

On Jan 26, 5:56*pm, "Walter Cohen" wrote:
I want to get one (at least) hydraulic jack to use if I need to change a
flat in my garage or driveway. *The crappy standard equipment jacks that
come in a car I just don't trust.

What is better/easier to use for changing tires (or plain lifting up the
corner of a car) - a hydraulic bottle jack or a hydraulic floor jack? *I
want to be sure also that the car doesn't slip off the jack while I'm
working on the car. *I know I need to also get some jack stands for safety.

Thanks.
Walter

bottle jack's not so great, because as you will note when you try a
floor jack (i assume you mean the big things with the linkage and the
wheels), the car lifts in a bit of an arc around the other wheels,
obviously, which means where the jack meets the car is moving
sideways. therefore, the car jack has wheels and will creep a bit,
rather than tip over.

I have a $20 bottle jack that I've had for 6 years without a problem.
The way the axle and differential are put together on my Jeep Cherokee
mandates some sort of jack with a small lift point. No signs of
leakage, but it gets used maybe every 6 months, at most.