I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

In article ,
dk wrote:

I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

I don't get this whole garbage disposal fascination. Never owned one,
never wanted one. About as useful as a trash compactor, IME. Throw the
garbage away.

What garbage, anyway? Where is all this garbage people jabber on about
coming from, anyway? I cook food and eat it. What's to put in the
disposal?

No, you're not supposed to put food in a septic tank.

Close the screen door for the flies, use some "Roach Prufe" if need be
for the little *******s.

"dk" wrote in message
. ..
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

There are disposals made for septic systems, but I'd not have one myself.
Very little has to go down the drain. Vegetable stuff can go on a compost
pile, the rest can go in the trash.

Some people have them and have no problems, others have to have the septic
pumped more often. If you do get one, at least have your system pumped once
in a while rather than wait for a backup.

On Jan 4, 12:54*am, dk wrote:
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. *The builder
* said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. *Is he
"pulling my chain"? *If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? *I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

The builder is right. I have a disposal on my kitchen sink but use it
sparingly whcih means food scraps go in garbage and only dish and pan
washings go down disposal. Be advised not to overfeed your septic
which includes not dumping a lot of fatty food waste, using liquid
detergents and not flushing facial tissues or a lot of household
chemicals. Septics can handle these things but more frequent pumping
will be needed and there is more potential for expensive drainfield
backup.

"dk" wrote in message
. ..
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

Your builder is F.O.S. and cutting corners. Disposals have been installed
with septic service for over 50 years without problems. My first new home
(1955) had septic and disposal, 3 others including my current home (Built in
1994) with never a problem.

In article , dk says...

I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

Garbage disposals are something of an invented need (as in, invent something,
then market to the populace as a necessity.) Few folks around here, where most
have septic and a well, have garbage disposals. Food scraps should be few,
really, and those that need to be thrown out just mean quicker trips to the
outside garbage can. I wrap things like turkey carcasses and potato peelings in
a plastic grocery shopping bag first.

I've had garbage disposals while growing up and in some of the rental apartments
I lived in. But I never missed it in the 14 years I've been without.

Banty

dk wrote:

I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

No good reason to have a garbage disposal, particularly on a septic
system. They can be used on a septic system if you're careful, but they
can also cause problems if you keep sending junk that isn't readily
degradable down them.

The comment about flies and roaches just isn't an issue for most people
who have covered garbage cans in their kitchens, empty and seal the
garbage on bags regularly so they are ready for garbage collection day,
and generally keep their homes clean.

Garbage disposals make more sense in a city environment, where they are
on a city sewer system, and people don't have indoor storage space to
keep the bagged garbage safe from rats and other vermin until garbage
day.

we have one, but don't put food scraps down it. I've never had flies and
roaches. I just put the junk in the trash and take it out when the can gets
full. Put the bags in the poly cart and the trash guys pick it up on
friday. You shouldn't run food scraps down a disposal on a septic. Your
builder is right.

s


"dk" wrote in message
. ..
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

check cost of pumping your new septic tank. and possibly replacing the
drainage field, all to use a disosal.

probably 500 bucks pump 5000 bucks replace drain field.

now is it worth the risk???

SteveB wrote:
"dk" wrote in message
. ..
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The
builder said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system.
Is he "pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do
folks handle garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of
flies and roaches without one.

TIA

Septic will function with a garbage disposal. You will just have to
have it pumped more often, and there is a chance of leach field lines
plugging up and you having to dig the whole thing up. Other than
that, no downside to garbage disposals on septic. A lot of people
who are on septic either put out garbage to the street or compost.

"Other than the homicides, D.C. is a safe place to live and work," (D.C.
Mayor).

On Jan 3, 9:54*pm, dk wrote:
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. *The builder
* said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. *Is he
"pulling my chain"? *If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? *I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

It's an urban legend that you're not supposed to use a disposal with a
septic system. Pure BS. Google septic pumping schedule chart
disposal.

I wouldn't tolerate kitchen without a disposal. They're great.

"dk" wrote in message
. ..
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

Septic will function with a garbage disposal. You will just have to have it
pumped more often, and there is a chance of leach field lines plugging up
and you having to dig the whole thing up. Other than that, no downside to
garbage disposals on septic. A lot of people who are on septic either put
out garbage to the street or compost.

Steve

mike wrote:

On Jan 3, 9:54 pm, dk wrote:
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

It's an urban legend that you're not supposed to use a disposal with a
septic system. Pure BS. Google septic pumping schedule chart
disposal.

I wouldn't tolerate kitchen without a disposal. They're great.

Your assertion is urban legend since urban folks have no knowledge of
septic systems.

On Jan 4, 8:29*am, "Pete C." wrote:
mike wrote:

On Jan 3, 9:54 pm, dk wrote:
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. *The builder
* said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. *Is he
"pulling my chain"? *If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? *I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

It's an urban legend that you're not supposed to use a disposal with a
septic system. *Pure BS. *Google septic pumping schedule chart
disposal.

I wouldn't tolerate kitchen without a disposal. *They're great.

Your assertion is urban legend since urban folks have no knowledge of
septic systems.- Hide quoted text -

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Having a septic system doesn't make one knowledgeable on the subject.
You'd be surpised at how many people with septic systems are unaware
that they need to have the solids pumped out on a regular basis....
and then when something bad happens they blame it on food scraps,
cleaners, toilet paper, antibiotics or some other silly claim that has
no basis in fact.

As far as a septic system is concerned, food and turds are the same
thing.

mike wrote:

On Jan 4, 8:29 am, "Pete C." wrote:
mike wrote:

On Jan 3, 9:54 pm, dk wrote:
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

TIA

It's an urban legend that you're not supposed to use a disposal with a
septic system. Pure BS. Google septic pumping schedule chart
disposal.

I wouldn't tolerate kitchen without a disposal. They're great.

Your assertion is urban legend since urban folks have no knowledge of
septic systems.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Having a septic system doesn't make one knowledgeable on the subject.
You'd be surpised at how many people with septic systems are unaware
that they need to have the solids pumped out on a regular basis....

More urban legend. A properly sized septic system that is fed only the
human waste that is is intended to process does not need regular
pumping.

and then when something bad happens they blame it on food scraps,
cleaners, toilet paper, antibiotics or some other silly claim that has
no basis in fact.

As far as a septic system is concerned, food and turds are the same
thing.

Pete C. wrote:

More urban legend. A properly sized septic system that is fed only the
human waste that is is intended to process does not need regular
pumping.

I've had neighbors go as long as 20 years and I've gone maybe as long as
5 but eventually they all need to have undigested sludge removed.

With cost of pumping and even having to install an alternate drain
field, I figure it's only cost me half of what friends paid for county
sewer service over the years.

Also wanted to add that septic aids like Ridex (sic) are not needed.
Human waste provides sufficient bacteria.

Plus, lot of argument in this tread is to how garbage disposal use is
defined. To me it is getting rid of food scraps that are inconvenient to
get into trash. Unless someone has a super garbage disposal machine
that handles paper, bottles, cans, etc., you're going to have to put out
the trash

Frank

On Jan 4, 9:17*am, "Pete C." wrote:

More urban legend. A properly sized septic system that is fed only the
human waste that is is intended to process does not need regular
pumping.



Read and learn:
http://www.inspect-ny.com/septic/tankpump.htm
http://www.epa.gov/npdes/pubs/homeow..._customize.pdf

(my apologies if this gets double-posted)

"dk" wrote in message
. ..
I just moved to a house that has no garbage disposal unit. The builder
said that it's not advisable for a house on a septic system. Is he
"pulling my chain"? If what he is saying is true, how do folks handle
garbage without a septic tank? I can see a lot of flies and roaches
without one.

He's not entirely pulling your chain. Take it from experience. Your septic
can handle a little mess, but it can also overload quickly if you dump too
much of what it wasnt intended for.

We have a disposal but barely use it. We got used to the Japan system
instead. There's a simple drain wire catcher in there which we dump in the
trash when the sink is used to peel vegetables etc.

You got that right.

s


"Pete C." wrote in message
...

Your assertion is urban legend since urban folks have no knowledge of
septic systems.

Wrong. Absolutely wrong.

s

"mike" wrote in message
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On Jan 4, 8:29 am, "Pete C." wrote:

As far as a septic system is concerned, food and turds are the same
thing.

The sludge does build up. And they should be pumped every 3 years. But most
people don't bother until something won't drain. Then they find the sludge
has crept out the outlet into the lateral field. Best to pump them at least
every 5 years. If a person were to be stupid enough to put food scraps down
a septic, i'd pump at least once a year. The grease is not being consumed
as fast as you are adding it if you put scraps down it regularly.

s


"Pete C." wrote in message
...

More urban legend. A properly sized septic system that is fed only the
human waste that is is intended to process does not need regular
pumping.

Both those links are very good information. Although the math on the
footnote about disposers on the first one is wrong.

s


"mike" wrote in message
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On Jan 4, 9:17 am, "Pete C." wrote:

Read and learn:
http://www.inspect-ny.com/septic/tankpump.htm
http://www.epa.gov/npdes/pubs/homeow..._customize.pdf

(my apologies if this gets double-posted)

my in laws live in bedford PA, they are now required by law to pump at
least every other year, after too many homes septic drain fields were
clogging...