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I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't
know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC |
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On Nov 18, 10:44�pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). �It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). �However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? �or was I looking in the wrong place? �There has to be one somewhere? MC pelectrical supply house not home depot |
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You should be able to go to any good commercial electrical supply
house and have virtually any pattern of switch cover custom punched. They will probably have all the normal ones sitting on the shelf. What worries me is your comment that the lid is the same material as the box. This is sounding a lot like a 4 square with a 4 square raised cover a bit like the top left item on this page: http://www.galesburgelectric.com/Electrical-Box-Covers-p-1-c-386.html In order to use a conventional switch plate cover, you will need to change out the raised lid for a plaster ring like this: http://www.galesburgelectric.com/Appleton-8470B-4-Inch-Steel-Square-Cover-Double-Device-Plast-p-2507.html And this will probably take an oversized switch plate to cover everything. -- ______________________________ Keep the whole world singing . . . . DanG (remove the sevens) "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC |
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MiamiCuse wrote:
I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC is this what you want ? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...§ion=11001 Leviton Cat# 80506 in Brown or 80506-I in white |
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On Nov 19, 8:44 am, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC hai everyone This is valuable web site and check the link who wants to receive changes in life. www.4usgoogle.blogspot.com |
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On Nov 19, 9:14Â*am, " wrote:
On Nov 18, 10:44�pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). �It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). �However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? �or was I looking in the wrong place? �There has to be one somewhere? MC pelectrical supply house not home depot hai everyone This is valuable web site and check the link who wants to receive changes in life. www.4usgoogle.blogspot.com |
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On Nov 19, 10:03 am, Reed wrote:
MiamiCuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC is this what you want ? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...?item=5929§ion... Leviton Cat# 80506 in Brown or 80506-I in white hai everyone This is valuable web site and check the link who wants to receive changes in life. www.4usgoogle.blogspot.com |
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On Nov 19, 11:30 am, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:44:26 -0500, "MiamiCuse" wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC You can use a decora plate with a blank insert in the unused hole. They make them with decora or regular toggle switch cutout on the other side hai everyone This is valuable web site and check the link who wants to receive changes in life. www.4usgoogle.blogspot.com |
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![]() "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? I am guessing that you currently have a 4" square surface cover on the box. Remove that and install a one gang mud ring. They come in several different depths including flat. Home Depot usually only has one or two depths, but an electrical supply company will have more choices. You can then install a regular switch plate on the switch. If you need a wide cover you can special order a double width single toggle wallplate (Not an oversize wallplate) which is a two gang wall plate with the toggle opening in the middle. Go to an electrical supply company and ask if they have a Mulberry wall plate catalog that you can look at. |
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"Joseph Meehan" writes:
You could also just add a new switch. Just don't connect it to anything. It will confuse many people and give you hours of fun watching them. Or install two three-way switches wired so that both switches control the light. That way, there's no "wrong" switch, but anyone trying to figure out what both switches control will get a surprise. Dave |
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DanG you may be right. I need to take a closer look I do have a raised lid.
What you mean is even if I have a double gang single switch plate it may not be deep enough for what I have. Thanks, MC "DanG" wrote in message ... You should be able to go to any good commercial electrical supply house and have virtually any pattern of switch cover custom punched. They will probably have all the normal ones sitting on the shelf. What worries me is your comment that the lid is the same material as the box. This is sounding a lot like a 4 square with a 4 square raised cover a bit like the top left item on this page: http://www.galesburgelectric.com/Electrical-Box-Covers-p-1-c-386.html In order to use a conventional switch plate cover, you will need to change out the raised lid for a plaster ring like this: http://www.galesburgelectric.com/Appleton-8470B-4-Inch-Steel-Square-Cover-Double-Device-Plast-p-2507.html And this will probably take an oversized switch plate to cover everything. -- ______________________________ Keep the whole world singing . . . . DanG (remove the sevens) "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC |
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![]() "Reed" wrote in message ... MiamiCuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC is this what you want ? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...§ion=11001 Leviton Cat# 80506 in Brown or 80506-I in white Reed, no, my switch is in the middle not to one side. Thanks. MC |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:44:26 -0500, "MiamiCuse" wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC You can use a decora plate with a blank insert in the unused hole. They make them with decora or regular toggle switch cutout on the other side Hi thanks. I do not have an unused hole. It is a double gang box but the switch is mounted in the middle of it. It is used to operate a commercial outdoor kitchen grill exhaust hood. |
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![]() "John Grabowski" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? I am guessing that you currently have a 4" square surface cover on the box. Remove that and install a one gang mud ring. They come in several different depths including flat. Home Depot usually only has one or two depths, but an electrical supply company will have more choices. You can then install a regular switch plate on the switch. If you need a wide cover you can special order a double width single toggle wallplate (Not an oversize wallplate) which is a two gang wall plate with the toggle opening in the middle. Go to an electrical supply company and ask if they have a Mulberry wall plate catalog that you can look at. I considered that. However the wall is an exterior concrete wall with special textured stucco which is difficult to match. This is the reason I did not want to change it to a single gang box because then I have to find a way to redo the special textured stucco about an inch on both sides. I called around a few electrical supply houses locally and they told me they don't have a double width plate with a single toggle in the middle. I will keep trying thanks! MC |
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I cannot because the existing switch is in the middle, not off to one side.
Thanks, MC "Joseph Meehan" wrote in message ... You could also just add a new switch. Just don't connect it to anything. It will confuse many people and give you hours of fun watching them. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit |
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"Reed" wrote in message ... MiamiCuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC is this what you want ? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...§ion=11001 Leviton Cat# 80506 in Brown or 80506-I in white Reed, no, my switch is in the middle not to one side. Thanks. MC so what you want is this, except in white plastic ?? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...?a=b&item=8185 --reed |
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![]() "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "John Grabowski" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? I am guessing that you currently have a 4" square surface cover on the box. Remove that and install a one gang mud ring. They come in several different depths including flat. Home Depot usually only has one or two depths, but an electrical supply company will have more choices. You can then install a regular switch plate on the switch. If you need a wide cover you can special order a double width single toggle wallplate (Not an oversize wallplate) which is a two gang wall plate with the toggle opening in the middle. Go to an electrical supply company and ask if they have a Mulberry wall plate catalog that you can look at. I considered that. However the wall is an exterior concrete wall with special textured stucco which is difficult to match. This is the reason I did not want to change it to a single gang box because then I have to find a way to redo the special textured stucco about an inch on both sides. I called around a few electrical supply houses locally and they told me they don't have a double width plate with a single toggle in the middle. I will keep trying thanks! I doubt that anyone will have the double width wallplate in stock. You will need to order it. For a white semi-gloss double width with a toggle opening in the middle it is Mulberry part #86772 (aka 1T-2G) |
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![]() "DanG" wrote in message ... You're not listening well. We all think that your switch is installed on your cover, not your box. If this is so, you will need to buy an extension ring to allow you to mount the switch to the box. When you do this, the switch will be on one side, not the center. Only with a two gang ring. With a one gang mud ring the switch will be centered on the 4" square box. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "John Grabowski" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? I am guessing that you currently have a 4" square surface cover on the box. Remove that and install a one gang mud ring. They come in several different depths including flat. Home Depot usually only has one or two depths, but an electrical supply company will have more choices. You can then install a regular switch plate on the switch. If you need a wide cover you can special order a double width single toggle wallplate (Not an oversize wallplate) which is a two gang wall plate with the toggle opening in the middle. Go to an electrical supply company and ask if they have a Mulberry wall plate catalog that you can look at. I considered that. However the wall is an exterior concrete wall with special textured stucco which is difficult to match. This is the reason I did not want to change it to a single gang box because then I have to find a way to redo the special textured stucco about an inch on both sides. I called around a few electrical supply houses locally and they told me they don't have a double width plate with a single toggle in the middle. I will keep trying thanks! MC |
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![]() "Reed" wrote in message ... MiamiCuse wrote: "Reed" wrote in message ... MiamiCuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC is this what you want ? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...§ion=11001 Leviton Cat# 80506 in Brown or 80506-I in white Reed, no, my switch is in the middle not to one side. Thanks. MC so what you want is this, except in white plastic ?? http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCC...?a=b&item=8185 --reed Yes exactly. John Grabowski mentioned mulberry 86772 so I will try that. Thanks! |
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On Nov 20, 12:24 am, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I cannot because the existing switch is in the middle, not off to one side. Thanks, This seems like an awful amount of discussion (almost a fixation?) to change the colour of switch cover plate? The gist of what HAS been pointed out by a number of knowledgeable posters here, all trying to help answer the original question is that to install another style of switch plate, may require different switch to box mounting, below (inside) to install a new white finish switch plate. That may place the switch to ones side or another. Or require a special order. Why is it assumed the switch will, or has to stay in the middle????? Of this particular box/plate. Has the OP had it apart (power off) and had a look at it? Or is just making the assumption it has to stay in the middle/centre? It does rather 'sound' in this case that the switch may actually be mounted to a rather substantial metal 'cover' of an exterior style metal conduit pattern box? Also it does appear, from the questions being asked, that the OP is not the type of person who, unlike most electricians, handy home repairers and do it your selfers etc, will not have the odd extra bits and pieces often left over from other work (where one encounters boxes of different sizes and depths and mountings etc.). Often these bits and pieces give one a good idea of what might be possible or the general construction of switch to electrical mountings; or even help to solve the question without even posting here? BTW: If it's not a technical problem and looks safe and workmanlike why not just leave it the way it is and avoid unnecessary work? |
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replying to MiamiCuse, tlcrob wrote:
nmbexcuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC Try kyleswitchplates.com -- |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 06:44:01 +0000, tlcrob
wrote: replying to MiamiCuse, tlcrob wrote: nmbexcuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC Try kyleswitchplates.com Spray paint it epoxy white. |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 06:44:01 +0000, tlcrob
wrote: replying to MiamiCuse, tlcrob wrote: nmbexcuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC Try kyleswitchplates.com You have a square utility box, not a double gang box, in all likelihood. Likely a 4 11/16", and the switch fastens to the cover, not to the box? If so, to use a standard switch plate you would need a "device ring" to fasten the switch to, and then the standard plate fits the ring. Painting the metal plate white would definitely be simpler and would end up looking better, as the ring would still show metal and the new plate would stick out about half an inch from the surface on the ring. see http://www.garvinindustries.com/elec...g-device-rings for an example. |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:01:57 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 06:44:01 +0000, tlcrob m wrote: replying to MiamiCuse, tlcrob wrote: nmbexcuse wrote: I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC Try kyleswitchplates.com You have a square utility box, not a double gang box, in all likelihood. Likely a 4 11/16", and the switch fastens to the cover, not to the box? It is just as likely a 1900 box = 4 inch square Best to just measure it. http://www.garvinindustries.com/imag...ages/g1935.jpg If so, to use a standard switch plate you would need a "device ring" to fasten the switch to, and then the standard plate fits the ring. Painting the metal plate white would definitely be simpler and would end up looking better, as the ring would still show metal and the new plate would stick out about half an inch from the surface on the ring. see http://www.garvinindustries.com/elec...g-device-rings for an example. |
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On Sunday, November 18, 2007 at 9:44:26 PM UTC-6, MiamiCuse wrote:
I have an exterior brick wall with a metal double gang box (why I don't know). It has a square metal cover plate (one that is made of the same material as the box itself). However, all the other switch covers around that wall are white so I am trying to find one but I searched and searched and finally concluded they don't make a single toggle swicth for a double gang box? or was I looking in the wrong place? There has to be one somewhere? MC Like already posted, just spray paint the existing cover!!!! |
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