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2 gang switch in double box
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I have a 4 gang switch configured only with 2 lighting circuits (I guess 2 have been recovered / redundent over the years). To avail my frustration of constantly pressing a dud switch (only 2 of them work remember), I want to replace the 4 gang to a 2 gang....... only I cannot find a 2 gang switch plate. Does one exist? I dont really want to dig out and replace the double box with a single if I can help it. Thanks. |
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"mayday" writes: Hello, I have a 4 gang switch configured only with 2 lighting circuits (I guess 2 have been recovered / redundent over the years). To avail my frustration of constantly pressing a dud switch (only 2 of them work remember), I want to replace the 4 gang to a 2 gang....... only I cannot find a 2 gang switch plate. Does one exist? I dont really want to dig out and replace the double box with a single if I can help it. MK Grid switch system has both 4 slot and 3 slot frames for 2 gang boxes. You can get blank modules to fill the unused slots. The larger B&Q stores do them. There are also modular switch plates you can make up (several manufacturers), and one of these might look better as the blank modules blend in better with the background. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Thanks for your reply, but I believe the grid systems require a
different metal box to the standard ones that is in the wall, so I'd still have to open up the wall around the box to replace anyway. Thanks for your thoughts though! |
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Don't believe so - I have a 3 gang MK gridswitch replacing an old 4 gang in
a double box. All I needed to do was retap the threads in the flanges from 4BA to the metric threads used on the grid mounting plate. The metal is soft as butter so a spare correclty sized fixing bolt will recut the thread failry well if you don;t have taps. Mike "mayday" wrote in message ups.com... Thanks for your reply, but I believe the grid systems require a different metal box to the standard ones that is in the wall, so I'd still have to open up the wall around the box to replace anyway. Thanks for your thoughts though! |
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I just need a 2 gang double width plate, must be something on the
market? (even with wide rocker switches for the large of fingered people).... Thanks. |
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In article . com,
"mayday" writes: Thanks for your reply, but I believe the grid systems require a different metal box to the standard ones that is in the wall, so I'd No it doesn't. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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"mayday" wrote in message oups.com... Hello, I have a 4 gang switch configured only with 2 lighting circuits (I guess 2 have been recovered / redundent over the years). To avail my frustration of constantly pressing a dud switch (only 2 of them work remember), I want to replace the 4 gang to a 2 gang....... only I cannot find a 2 gang switch plate. Does one exist? I dont really want to dig out and replace the double box with a single if I can help it. Thanks. If all else fails, get a 4 gang, two way set, then wire two switches per light! Sparks... |
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mayday wrote: Thanks for your reply, but I believe the grid systems require a different metal box to the standard ones that is in the wall, so I'd still have to open up the wall around the box to replace anyway. Is the existing box plaster depth? -- *I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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mayday wrote:
Thanks for your reply, but I believe the grid systems require a different metal box to the standard ones that is in the wall, so I'd still have to open up the wall around the box to replace anyway. No - they don't. I've got plenty of grid system switches (and very nice they are too) and they are just fitted to standard back boxes. |
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"mayday" wrote in message ups.com... Thanks for your reply, but I believe the grid systems require a different metal box to the standard ones that is in the wall, so I'd still have to open up the wall around the box to replace anyway. Thanks for your thoughts though! Yes they are different, and a lot deeper ! |
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shaun wrote: No - they don't. I've got plenty of grid system switches (and very nice they are too) and they are just fitted to standard back boxes. No such thing, really. They come in different depths, and grid switches require deeper boxes than plate types. -- *Middle age is when work is a lot less fun - and fun a lot more work. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Christian McArdle wrote: No such thing, really. They come in different depths, and grid switches require deeper boxes than plate types. The official boxes might be deeper. However, there is no need for all that depth when fitting a 2 gang switch plate to a double box. Most plate switches will fit in plaster depth (16mm) boxes - nasty things. Grid switches require a deeper box - normally at least 25mm, as do many dimmers. Hence I never use plaster depth boxes. ;-) -- *7up is good for you, signed snow white* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Most plate switches will fit in plaster depth (16mm) boxes - nasty things.
Grid switches require a deeper box - normally at least 25mm, as do many dimmers. Hence I never use plaster depth boxes. ;-) 2 gang plaster depth are pretty unusual, though. The official grid ones are much deeper than standard 25mm ones. Christian. |
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Christian McArdle wrote: Most plate switches will fit in plaster depth (16mm) boxes - nasty things. Grid switches require a deeper box - normally at least 25mm, as do many dimmers. Hence I never use plaster depth boxes. ;-) 2 gang plaster depth are pretty unusual, though. That maybe, but they exist. Pretty sure MK still list them. The official grid ones are much deeper than standard 25mm ones. I didn't know there was an official grid box for one and two gang - I just use standard ones. Suppose the only real difference is grid ones will have fixed lugs and to the sides only. Multi grid boxes would be specials, though. 35mm deep is my usual choice for near anything as it gives plenty clearance for cables without faffing about. -- *Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:16:35 +0100 someone who may be "Christian
McArdle" wrote this:- The official grid ones are much deeper than standard 25mm ones. I used a two gang 25mm box for a gridswitch which has one two way, two one way and one neon indicator modules. A three core and earth cable enters from one direction and such a cable and a single emerge to go to various lights. Plenty of space for wires in it. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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David Hansen wrote: The official grid ones are much deeper than standard 25mm ones. I used a two gang 25mm box for a gridswitch which has one two way, two one way and one neon indicator modules. A three core and earth cable enters from one direction and such a cable and a single emerge to go to various lights. Plenty of space for wires in it. Yes. Of course it may depend on the grid manufacturer. I've just looked at the current MK range - I've only got one grid example of that here - and it would fit a 25mm deep box. -- *The longest recorded flightof a chicken is thirteen seconds * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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