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Moles!
Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes
in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna |
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In article bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06, "Donna" wrote:
Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Victor mole traps. Terriers. Cats. Not necessarily in that order. :-) -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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On Mon, 07 May 2007 19:13:11 GMT, "Donna"
wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna (I won't tell my method, folks laughed., so that is off the table.) Someone a wrote open letter for moles in their yard. Dear Mound Makers- Look, I am keenly aware that you were here prior to me buying the house. I am also aware that you were here before the house was built. This land is your land…I get that. The thing is that I’m stressed out about you taking over my lawn. I don’t give a mole’s ass if you come up for air in the nooks and crannies of my yard. They’re yours. But, please, for the love of god and all things holy, leave my lawn alone. I’ve researched several solutions to our co-habitation challenge: however, experts agree that the only real solution is your demise. I do have a trap out in the garage, in fact, it came with the house. I don’t know if you or your friends have seen these things…they’re terrifying. I’d be happy to show it to you if you’d like. I’ll leave it by the large dirt mound (the one you favor) on my front lawn. Don’t worry, I won’t set it; it’s simply for display and educational purposes. Go ahead, touch it, get a feel for it. You know, I’ll even leave a latte next to it so you can ponder your decision in comfort. I’m hoping we can work this out in a civil fashion, and so, I would appreciate a meeting of the minds with those in charge. Yes, take me to your leader…the decision maker. Perhaps we can agree to a homeopathic solution; one that won’t cause you any harm or discomfort. Please consider my offer and respond accordingly. Civilly yours, Property Owner -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 May 2007 19:13:11 GMT, "Donna" wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna (I won't tell my method, folks laughed., so that is off the table.) Come on, tell me. I need something to laugh at other than the swiss cheese masquerading as my front lawn. Donna |
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On Mon, 07 May 2007 19:23:57 GMT, "Donna"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 07 May 2007 19:13:11 GMT, "Donna" wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna (I won't tell my method, folks laughed., so that is off the table.) Come on, tell me. I need something to laugh at other than the swiss cheese masquerading as my front lawn. Donna Nope, no way. Not in front of ladies. Given this is your front yard you might be arrested or committed ;-)) There is an old thread where I spoke of this method. Traps are the best; according to folks that use them. Sorry! -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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Oren wrote: Nope, no way. Not in front of ladies. Given this is your front yard you might be arrested or committed ;-)) There is an old thread where I spoke of this method. Traps are the best; according to folks that use them. I have, quite seriously, had a lot of luck by just walking on the tunnels and collapsing them. At worst I have had to do this 3-4 times before I either caught it in the cave in or it went out looking for other less destructive areas. Worked 4-5 times over the last 15 years. |
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Donna wrote:
Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? A Mossberg 590A1 should work nicely. Pick a mound, stomp it down some, then stake it out and wait for the soil to move. -- "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!" Dave www.davebbq.com |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:53:52 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
wrote: Donna wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? A Mossberg 590A1 should work nicely. Pick a mound, stomp it down some, then stake it out and wait for the soil to move. Is that a 410 model? -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Dr. Scholl. He hunts them for the moleskin. -- "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!" Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Hey Donna...
I have this little cat. Found her when she was a little kitten, starved half to death and had been tossed into a river. Brought her home and nursed her back to health. She has earned her keep and shown her gratitude. She gets moles, gophers, mice, rats and snakes. Even brought home a squirrel the other day. She's a little cat too. We live in a pretty rural area though, your mileage may vary. Kate "Donna" wrote in message news:bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06... Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:53:52 -0700, "Dave Bugg" wrote: Donna wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? A Mossberg 590A1 should work nicely. Pick a mound, stomp it down some, then stake it out and wait for the soil to move. Is that a 410 model? Nope. http://tinyurl.com/38w9v9 -- "So long, so long, and thanks for all the fish!" Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Donna wrote:
Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna WARNING! I HAVE NOT DONE THIS, SO NO GUARANTEE. But it *should* have an effect, and is bait / poison / trap free. You need a cat, preferably an indoor cat, to do this. Small garden trowel. Excavate both tunnel ends at each and I do mean each, mole hill. Insert half a trowel full of used, urine stained / oaked cat litter in eah tunnel. Replace covering dirt. Moles have really good olfactory equipment, and cats are among the natural predators. Cat scent, pungent cat scent applied everywhere in the tunnel complex at one time might cause the critters to leave. Your neighbors may not be real happy when the moles show up in their yards, but this is a mole ridding class, not an ethics class. I know many mole cures that do not work. The "gas bombs" don't work; flooding tunnels with water doesn't work. The "vibrating" wind things don't work. For me, a trap has worked. Poisoned peanuts / mole baits may or may not work, you never find the body... In handling either, use latex / rubber gloves. Moles will smell you on the trap / bait. A neighbor of mine, back when this area was rural, not suburban sub division as it is now, literally walked around his yard with a 12 ga. 5 round pump shotgun. Mik could "see them tunneling and he'd cut loose with a # 8 load and literally blow them out of the ground. Moles eat worms and grubs and bugs. Seriously poison your lawn with (?) chlordane (?) to kill off the food supply and the moles supposedly will leave Me, I on't point shotguns near my feet and fire, nor do I turn the grass areas intoinsect free deserts. YMMV. Good luck! |
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"Donna" wrote in message news:bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06... Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna http://www.rodenator.com/ |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 13:37:24 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
wrote: Oren wrote: What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Dr. Scholl. He hunts them for the moleskin. Holy Moly! They must big bumps to the head. -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 15:40:50 -0500, "Kate" wrote:
Hey Donna... I have this little cat. Found her when she was a little kitten, starved half to death and had been tossed into a river. Brought her home and nursed her back to health. She has earned her keep and shown her gratitude. She gets moles, gophers, mice, rats and snakes. Even brought home a squirrel the other day. She's a little cat too. We live in a pretty rural area though, your mileage may vary. Kate I once had two cats, they caught and ate rabbits, except the kidney. Always left it on the patio; noting but a kidney there. "Donna" wrote in message news:bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06... Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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"Donna" wrote in message news:bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06... Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna Get a cat or two. We have two outside cats, and they are ruthless when it comes to moles and gophers. |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 13:48:45 -0700, "Dave Bugg"
wrote: Is that a 410 model? Nope. Almost looks like an 870 Remington used in riot control. -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 16:39:13 -0500, "J.A. Michel"
wrote: Get a cat or two. We have two outside cats, and they are ruthless when it comes to moles and gophers. Rescue a local prison cat. I've done it three times. They are tough asses. I have one still alive. She won't take any crap at 13 years! -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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"Donna" wrote in message news:bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06... Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Thanks as always, Donna www.rodenator.com At least visit there and watch the videos. I have the oxyacetylene welding equipment to build one, and will be doing so in the next year when I move to Utah. I already have a couple of rancher friends interested in my services. The Rodenator is used more for gophers. I have read here that trapping, flooding, poisoning works good for moles. One other thing I have heard that works good on any tunneling animal ....... road flares. The chemicals in them produce their own oxygen, so they are hard to snuff out. Placing them in a tunnel causes noxious sulphur fumes that will kill or drive out anything in the tunnel. Don't know how it does on the lawn, though. Let us know how you finally manage to get ahead of them. That is IF you get ahead of them. Steve |
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On Mon, 07 May 2007 13:49:30 -0700, jJim McLaughlin
wrote: Small garden trowel. Excavate both tunnel ends at each and I do mean each, mole hill. Insert half a trowel full of used, urine stained / oaked cat litter in eah tunnel. Replace covering dirt. Urine, finally a person hears me!! Some don't take it serious (I laughed to tears in the thread). I posted about peeing in the yard (G/R rated versions) Homo sapiens urine will chase the mole next door. Tunnel specific ... use the Johnson! Animals attract and can repel. Urine is a method many might use. -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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"Oren" wrote Urine, finally a person hears me!! Some don't take it serious (I laughed to tears in the thread). I posted about peeing in the yard (G/R rated versions) Homo sapiens urine will chase the mole next door. Tunnel specific ... use the Johnson! Animals attract and can repel. Urine is a method many might use. -- Oren Oren and I live in the same town. It must work, because I haven't ever seen a mole here in Las Vegas. Oren must have some potent stuff, there. Steve ;-) |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 16:02:20 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Oren" wrote Urine, finally a person hears me!! Some don't take it serious (I laughed to tears in the thread). I posted about peeing in the yard (G/R rated versions) Homo sapiens urine will chase the mole next door. Tunnel specific ... use the Johnson! Animals attract and can repel. Urine is a method many might use. Oren and I live in the same town. It must work, because I haven't ever seen a mole here in Las Vegas. Oren must have some potent stuff, there. Steve ;-) They absolutely do not like coyote urine, besides the compacted soil and desert rock I cannot even get through :-/ Last mole work for me was back east where they lived. -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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Victor mole traps. Terriers. Cats. Not necessarily in that order. :-) What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Cats hunt them because they're there. |
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 18:39:42 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote: Oren wrote: Victor mole traps. Terriers. Cats. Not necessarily in that order. :-) What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Cats hunt them because they're there. I guess they were born knowing that. Some other predator might be on the most lethal list. What hunts a mole for food? -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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In article , Oren wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2007 19:20:47 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06, "Donna" wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Victor mole traps. Terriers. Cats. Not necessarily in that order. :-) What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Terriers and cats. :-) -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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In article , Oren wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2007 15:40:50 -0500, "Kate" wrote: Hey Donna... I have this little cat. Found her when she was a little kitten, starved half to death and had been tossed into a river. Brought her home and nursed her back to health. She has earned her keep and shown her gratitude. She gets moles, gophers, mice, rats and snakes. Even brought home a squirrel the other day. She's a little cat too. We live in a pretty rural area though, your mileage may vary. Kate I once had two cats, they caught and ate rabbits, except the kidney. Always left it on the patio; noting but a kidney there. They left that part for you! -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Cats hunt them because they're there. I guess they were born knowing that. Some other predator might be on the most lethal list. What hunts a mole for food? I think all cats have a "chase reflex" and knowing this may save your life. For example, assume you cross paths with a cougar while out hiking. If you run, you might as well cover yourself with jelly because you're toast! Not saying the mountain lion won't put the hurt on you if you stand still, but your chance of survival is zero (or closely adjacent), for sure, if you run. Cats, however, CAN temper their chase with the knowledge that the chaseable thing is bigger than they are. Cats don't chase cars (unlike some dogs we know). What this means is that you can sometimes bluff a cougar by opening your coat or shirt - to make yourself look bigger - and growling in a menacing fashion. 'Course this doesn't mean diddly to a bobcat, they'll bite you just for the hell of it. That's just what bobcats do. Then, too, there are cats that are just too lazy to be bothered with chasing anything... |
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Kate wrote:
Hey Donna... I have this little cat. Found her when she was a little kitten, starved half to death and had been tossed into a river. Brought her home and nursed her back to health. She has earned her keep and shown her gratitude. She gets moles, gophers, mice, rats and snakes. Even brought home a squirrel the other day. She's a little cat too. We live in a pretty rural area though, your mileage may vary. Kate Consider Towser. During her 23-year tenure at the Glenturrent distillery in Scotland she caught 28,989 mice (plus an occasional rat or rabbit). That's better than three mice per day! Had I been Towser's supervisor, I'd have gotten her a helper! |
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SNIPS What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Terriers and cats. :-) I was thinking something a little more wild and violent. A predator that thrives on a mole, say as a main / partial diet.. -- Oren Any of the small / medium N. American wild cats, e.g. cougar, mountain lion, bobcat etc., depending what its called in your area. Coyote, fox. Weasel, stuff like that. Doubt that any self respecting raptor (small hawk, owl, etc. ) would deign to get dirty digging for one. Basically the natural predators are all species being pushed out of the ever growing suburbias, so that the mole populations explode as the predators are forced out. |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 08 May 2007 00:24:03 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , Oren wrote: On Mon, 07 May 2007 19:20:47 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article bTK%h.1800$rk5.644@trndny06, "Donna" wrote: Ok, they're kind of cute, admittedly, but I'm not as enamored of the holes in my lawn, and I'm not at all happy that they might move into the house. Is there any way to get rid of moles? I have toddlers and pets, so poison can be difficult to do safely. Advice? Victor mole traps. Terriers. Cats. Not necessarily in that order. :-) What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Terriers and cats. :-) I was thinking something a little more wild and violent. A predator that thrives on a mole, say as a main / partial diet.. -- Oren That would be dogs and cats. Coyotes, terriers, cats loves them moles. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message ... Oren wrote: What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Cats hunt them because they're there. I guess they were born knowing that. Some other predator might be on the most lethal list. What hunts a mole for food? I think all cats have a "chase reflex" and knowing this may save your life. For example, assume you cross paths with a cougar while out hiking. If you run, you might as well cover yourself with jelly because you're toast! Not saying the mountain lion won't put the hurt on you if you stand still, but your chance of survival is zero (or closely adjacent), for sure, if you run. Cats, however, CAN temper their chase with the knowledge that the chaseable thing is bigger than they are. Cats don't chase cars (unlike some dogs we know). What this means is that you can sometimes bluff a cougar by opening your coat or shirt - to make yourself look bigger - and growling in a menacing fashion. 'Course this doesn't mean diddly to a bobcat, they'll bite you just for the hell of it. That's just what bobcats do. Then, too, there are cats that are just too lazy to be bothered with chasing anything... If you get chased by a cougar count yourself among the few. They're all over the place where I live (relatively speaking of course) and I've only seen one while backpacking and it hightailed it out of there before I got a second look. Of course after 4 days in the woods I probably smelled so bad it ran away to avoid the stench! But otherwise yeah, puff yourself up, wave your arms, yell, and if it ain't backing down - fight it. Run and you will get mauled. Disregard if this is a grizzly bear - draw your gun or you'll die. |
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SNIPS What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Wiki has an article on moles at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_%28animal%29 Only predator mentioned in the article is dogs. Wiki is always a crapshoot. You get what you pay for. |
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On Mon, 07 May 2007 16:47:55 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2007 18:39:42 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: Oren wrote: Victor mole traps. Terriers. Cats. Not necessarily in that order. :-) What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Cats hunt them because they're there. I guess they were born knowing that. Some other predator might be on the most lethal list. What hunts a mole for food? In N. America, it's the foxes and Bobcats. |
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"jJim McLaughlin" wrote in message . .. Oren wrote: SNIPS What is the natural predator for a mole? Something that hunts them as a food source? Wiki has an article on moles at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_%28animal%29 Only predator mentioned in the article is dogs. Damn. While getting a bobcat to get the moles would be undeniably entertaining, at some point, I would be writing you all asking how to remove the bobcat. Maybe not a workable idea. Dogs are great. I have a dog. The only problem is, he's a pug, and unless the mole is asleep on a donut, the pug wouldn't be a threat. sigh Donna |
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Only predator mentioned in the article is dogs. Damn. While getting a bobcat to get the moles would be undeniably entertaining, at some point, I would be writing you all asking how to remove the bobcat. Maybe not a workable idea. Dogs are great. I have a dog. The only problem is, he's a pug, and unless the mole is asleep on a donut, the pug wouldn't be a threat. You may have reduced the new problem to one that has already been solved (the mathematicians technique). Now, do moles like donuts? |
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"Oren" wrote I once had two cats, they caught and ate rabbits, except the kidney. Always left it on the patio; noting but a kidney there. OHhhhhhhhh! Is THAT what the mystery meat is that I always find by the back door! Kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it. I thought it was a gall bladder or soemthing. Thanks Oren Kate O|||||||O |
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"Oren" wrote Small garden trowel. Excavate both tunnel ends at each and I do mean each, mole hill. Insert half a trowel full of used, urine stained / oaked cat litter in eah tunnel. Replace covering dirt. Urine, finally a person hears me!! Some don't take it serious (I laughed to tears in the thread). I posted about peeing in the yard (G/R rated versions) Homo sapiens urine will chase the mole next door. Tunnel specific ... use the Johnson! Animals attract and can repel. Urine is a method many might use. -- Oren Ehm, *I* heard you... err... next time, close the bathroom door, ok....? LOL Kate O|||||||O |
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