What NOT to do when cleaning a mouse...

Logitech wireless mouse started producing double-clicks with a single
press, so I took out the batteries, and gave it a good shake and a lot
of "grit" fell out.

That didn't totally cure the intermittent "click", so I gave it a good
flush with denatured alcohol.

Two hours of drying later, it wouldn't come alive.

Four hours later it's now working, but wants to turn itself off at
random :-(

Oh, well.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
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America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:26:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What NOT to do when cleaning a mouse...

Logitech wireless mouse started producing double-clicks with a single
press, so I took out the batteries, and gave it a good shake and a lot
of "grit" fell out.

That didn't totally cure the intermittent "click", so I gave it a good
flush with denatured alcohol.

Two hours of drying later, it wouldn't come alive.

Four hours later it's now working, but wants to turn itself off at
random :-(

Oh, well.

...Jim Thompson

Jim, it takes a while for a mouse to sober up... And it will have one
hell of a headache in the morning, too.


Maybe blow it out with compressed air?

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:26:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What NOT to do when cleaning a mouse...

Logitech wireless mouse started producing double-clicks with a single
press, so I took out the batteries, and gave it a good shake and a
lot of "grit" fell out.

Probably mouse droppings... :-)

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:03:19 -0500, PeterD wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:26:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What NOT to do when cleaning a mouse...

Logitech wireless mouse started producing double-clicks with a single
press, so I took out the batteries, and gave it a good shake and a lot
of "grit" fell out.

That didn't totally cure the intermittent "click", so I gave it a good
flush with denatured alcohol.

Two hours of drying later, it wouldn't come alive.

Four hours later it's now working, but wants to turn itself off at
random :-(

Oh, well.

...Jim Thompson

Jim, it takes a while for a mouse to sober up... And it will have one
hell of a headache in the morning, too.


Maybe blow it out with compressed air?

Seems to be working now.

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 02:53:19 GMT, Ross Herbert
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:26:42 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What NOT to do when cleaning a mouse...

Logitech wireless mouse started producing double-clicks with a single
press, so I took out the batteries, and gave it a good shake and a
lot of "grit" fell out.

Probably mouse droppings... :-)

Probably ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
... gave it a good shake and a lot of "grit" fell out.

http://xkcd.com/237/

Tim

--
Deep Fryer: A very philosophical monk.
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

Jim Thompson wrote:
What NOT to do when cleaning a mouse...

Logitech wireless mouse started producing double-clicks with a single
press, so I took out the batteries, and gave it a good shake and a lot
of "grit" fell out.

That didn't totally cure the intermittent "click", so I gave it a good
flush with denatured alcohol.

Two hours of drying later, it wouldn't come alive.

Four hours later it's now working, but wants to turn itself off at
random :-(

Oh, well.

...Jim Thompson
The service call read 'System Down And Smells Funny', as a computer
tech you are thinking blown fuses in the PS and somehow the wires
are smoked. Find out a mouse is living in the CPU, old days file
cabinet sized cpu, and has chewed through the wrong wire, killing it
The inside needed to go back to shop, taken apart and powerwashed to
get the mouse **** out of it,

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford




That didn't totally cure the intermittent "click", so I gave it a good
flush with denatured alcohol.

Two hours of drying later, it wouldn't come alive.

Four hours later it's now working, but wants to turn itself off at
random :-(

Oh, well.

...Jim Thompson

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim

The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim

The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)


The first part of the thread doesn't show on my server. What did you do?
Dunk it in twelve year old Scotch?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:00 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim

The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)


The first part of the thread doesn't show on my server. What did you do?
Dunk it in twelve year old Scotch?

I poured denatured alcohol into the battery compartment and it ran out
around the buttons.

After around 8 hours of drying it's working like new.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:00 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim
The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)

The first part of the thread doesn't show on my server. What did you do?
Dunk it in twelve year old Scotch?

I poured denatured alcohol into the battery compartment and it ran out
around the buttons.

After around 8 hours of drying it's working like new.


Hopefully it didn't carry any essential stuff out with it. If it's the
Logitech that I have then at least it doesn't have bearings with grease
in them.

How do you get so much crud into it anyhow? Eating chips while doing CAD?

One thing I did find is that it pays to install better contact switches
into a lot of stuff. I always keep a bunch that have good tactile feel
and are nicely sealed.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:18:05 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:00 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim
The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)

The first part of the thread doesn't show on my server. What did you do?
Dunk it in twelve year old Scotch?

I poured denatured alcohol into the battery compartment and it ran out
around the buttons.

After around 8 hours of drying it's working like new.


Hopefully it didn't carry any essential stuff out with it. If it's the
Logitech that I have then at least it doesn't have bearings with grease
in them.

How do you get so much crud into it anyhow? Eating chips while doing CAD?

Peanuts ;-) Actually I have oily skin (*) which collects on the
buttons and, I'm sure, goes down into the innards, collecting dust.

(*) Bugs the wife something fierce... she's always needing lotion for
her dry skin... I never do ;-)


One thing I did find is that it pays to install better contact switches
into a lot of stuff. I always keep a bunch that have good tactile feel
and are nicely sealed.

When I find a mouse I like I usually buy three at a time. I rarely
repair anything... time is MONEY.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:18:05 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:00 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim
The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)

The first part of the thread doesn't show on my server. What did you do?
Dunk it in twelve year old Scotch?
I poured denatured alcohol into the battery compartment and it ran out
around the buttons.

After around 8 hours of drying it's working like new.

Hopefully it didn't carry any essential stuff out with it. If it's the
Logitech that I have then at least it doesn't have bearings with grease
in them.

How do you get so much crud into it anyhow? Eating chips while doing CAD?

Peanuts ;-) Actually I have oily skin (*) which collects on the
buttons and, I'm sure, goes down into the innards, collecting dust.

(*) Bugs the wife something fierce... she's always needing lotion for
her dry skin... I never do ;-)

One thing I did find is that it pays to install better contact switches
into a lot of stuff. I always keep a bunch that have good tactile feel
and are nicely sealed.

When I find a mouse I like I usually buy three at a time. I rarely
repair anything... time is MONEY.


It is but I try to use spare time to repair stuff. Mostly out of
environmental concern. Our society throws away enough stuff as it is. So
yesterday I fixed, sharpened and lubed the big garden shears I had
busted hours before. $30-40 would have bought a new set but that goes
against my grain.

Plus every time I repair something electronic I learn new things, albeit
sometimes mechanical tricks such as enclosure technology. "Ah, that's
how they did it!"

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:38:47 GMT, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:18:05 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:43:00 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:48:36 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

And because no alcohol made is purely without water, no matter how high the
proof, it will slowly (perhaps 8 hours, perhaps a day depending on the water
content) come back to life.

You can hasten the process by a slightly elevated temperature, but I'm
loathe to go above 80F on drying any electronic component for fear of
shortening the x axis of the bathtub curve.

Jim
The mouse is behaving quite well now. Since I always have a spare
on-hand I'll think I'll make that a regular cleaning procedure ;-)

The first part of the thread doesn't show on my server. What did you do?
Dunk it in twelve year old Scotch?
I poured denatured alcohol into the battery compartment and it ran out
around the buttons.

After around 8 hours of drying it's working like new.

Hopefully it didn't carry any essential stuff out with it. If it's the
Logitech that I have then at least it doesn't have bearings with grease
in them.

How do you get so much crud into it anyhow? Eating chips while doing CAD?

Peanuts ;-) Actually I have oily skin (*) which collects on the
buttons and, I'm sure, goes down into the innards, collecting dust.

(*) Bugs the wife something fierce... she's always needing lotion for
her dry skin... I never do ;-)

One thing I did find is that it pays to install better contact switches
into a lot of stuff. I always keep a bunch that have good tactile feel
and are nicely sealed.

When I find a mouse I like I usually buy three at a time. I rarely
repair anything... time is MONEY.


It is but I try to use spare time to repair stuff. Mostly out of
environmental concern. Our society throws away enough stuff as it is. So
yesterday I fixed, sharpened and lubed the big garden shears I had
busted hours before. $30-40 would have bought a new set but that goes
against my grain.

Plus every time I repair something electronic I learn new things, albeit
sometimes mechanical tricks such as enclosure technology. "Ah, that's
how they did it!"

I fixed my mouse* in less time compared to driving in traffic, finding
parking at the store, shopping around, waiting at the cash (no I don't
want the extended warranty), then driving in traffic to get back home.

Even an E*bay mouse takes too long.

*Breakage due to cable flexing.

So..yeah...buying many 3 mice makes sense.

Modified:

Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They used to work but now no more.
Have to replace them all what a chore.
.....
(I couldn't finish the rest. Took too much time..)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Blind_Mice
D from BC

"Joerg" wrote in message
.. .
So yesterday I fixed, sharpened and lubed the big garden shears I had busted
hours before. $30-40 would have bought a new set but that goes against my
grain.

In your case, since presumably $30-$40 is not a lot of money to be without,
how about hiring someone to spend the hour or so doing it? Have any
reasonably competent teenagers living nearby? That way you can spend more
time working making more money, you "employ" someone, and you keep the shears
out of the landfill.

Joel Koltner wrote:
"Joerg" wrote in message
.. .
So yesterday I fixed, sharpened and lubed the big garden shears I had busted
hours before. $30-40 would have bought a new set but that goes against my
grain.

In your case, since presumably $30-$40 is not a lot of money to be without,
how about hiring someone to spend the hour or so doing it? Have any
reasonably competent teenagers living nearby? That way you can spend more
time working making more money, you "employ" someone, and you keep the shears
out of the landfill.


Yeah, but it took only 20 minutes. Plus I had a beer (can't do that with
a teenager around) and listened to stock market news in the garage.
Usually I combine such chores with the barbeque start. Letting a
neighbor's kid work with the rotary grinder to sharpen the blades also
has its challenges and scares.

Of course Murphy struck. The chain saw threw its chain. Oh man ...

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Joel Koltner wrote:
"Joerg" wrote in message
.. .

So yesterday I fixed, sharpened and lubed the big garden shears I had busted
hours before. $30-40 would have bought a new set but that goes against my
grain.


In your case, since presumably $30-$40 is not a lot of money to be without,
how about hiring someone to spend the hour or so doing it? Have any
reasonably competent teenagers living nearby? That way you can spend more
time working making more money, you "employ" someone, and you keep the shears
out of the landfill.



The time spent to find a reasonably competent teenager,
or even a non-competent one, willing to do it would
possibly exceed the time spent to do it oneself. :-(

To say nothing of teenager + sharp object + litigous
parents = lawsuit. :-(

Of course, there's the risk of getting O.S.H.A. on your back:
http://www.hsegroup.com/hse/text/cowboy.htm

:-)

Ed

D from BC hath wroth:

I fixed my mouse* in less time compared to driving in traffic, finding
parking at the store, shopping around, waiting at the cash (no I don't
want the extended warranty), then driving in traffic to get back home.

I seem to have the opposite problem. I have a mouse infestation. See
the mice hanging on the door in:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/slides/office-panorama-2.html
Most of those were inherited from those too lazy, too busy, or too
clueless to clean the crud out of the mouse. The brand new mice are
in boxes buried in the closet.

I didn't see the original question, but sloshing alcohol in the
battery compartment isn't something I normally do to revive a comatose
mouse. I can't tell from the description if it's an optical or
mechanical mouse cordless mouse.

The mechanical mouse variety collect encrusted filth around the
rollers. Remove the ball, and scrape off the junk from the three
rollers. (Yes, there are three rollers, not two). I use a wooden or
plastic stick to avoid scratching the roller. If the mouse is really
encrusted with crud, I open the mouse and do more thorough cleaning.
Some mechanical mice have grease added at the ends of the optical
encoder wheels. The grease is un-necessary and will not add much to
the mouse life. However, the grease will migrate elsewhere and become
mixed with dust. I remove the grease.

The most common cause of crud on the rollers are cloth covered mouse
pads. The rubber cement used to bind the cloth to the rubber wet suit
material is dissolved by the sweat from the hand, which eventually
glues the room dust to the rollers. The older low resolution mice,
with the large diameter rollers, could accumulate substantial amounts
of crud before they start to act erratically. The newer high
resolution mice, use small diameter rollers, which can tolerate much
less crud.

If the mouse is optical, the 16x16 pixel camera is usually fairly
impervious to damage. One odd problem is that the tiny PTFE feet tend
to wear out or fall off. This doesn't affect the camera focus much,
but does increase the sliding friction of the mouse.

In an optical mouse, the scroll wheel and switches are the same as in
mechanical mice, and screw up the same way. The tiny switches are
junk and tend to fall apart after much clicking. The scroll wheel is
an excellent dirt transporter, that delivers dirt and dust directly
into the mechanism. Once inside, it usually gravitates towards the
optical encoder section.

There is some question as to the value of cleaning a mouse. It
depends on the mouse. If it's a Microsoft 8000 Bluegoof mouse, which
costs $80-$90, it most certainly is worth repairing. If it's a cheapo
$7 mechanical mouse, it's not worth it. The ones in between vary in
price and value. Most anything optical is worth keeping and cleaning.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
D from BC hath wroth:

I fixed my mouse* in less time compared to driving in traffic, finding
parking at the store, shopping around, waiting at the cash (no I don't
want the extended warranty), then driving in traffic to get back home.

I seem to have the opposite problem. I have a mouse infestation. See
the mice hanging on the door in:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/slides/office-panorama-2.html
Most of those were inherited from those too lazy, too busy, or too
clueless to clean the crud out of the mouse. The brand new mice are
in boxes buried in the closet.


But wait, there is a solution:
http://www.victorpest.com/mouse_snap_traps.htm

[...]

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

ChairmanOfTheBored hath wroth:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:11:45 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

If it's a cheapo
$7 mechanical mouse, it's not worth it.

It is worth it, if one is trying to keep that crap out of the landfills.

Ah, that explains the huge mess in my office and house.

I really do try to recycle and resurrect easy to repair electronics. I
guess I'm weird as I enjoy repairing things. The local landfill and
recycling center used to separate out the electronics:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/e-waste/index.html
No more. Now it's all part of metal scrap. At least one local group
is doing computer recycling:
http://www.greybears.org/computer.html
I literally cry when I see all the easily repairable stuff that gets
converted into e-waste scrap.

Incidentally, there as someone making custom wood or machined plastic
mice. The guts was from some optical mouse, but the switches and
shape was whatever the buyer wanted. I think they took a blob of
modeling clay and shaped it until the buyer was happy. Then, pattern
traced it in wood or plastic. I've been tempted to do this for
myself. Something like this, but customized:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=WOODKYBMOU

I also want is an inflatable mouse for my laptops. Deflate and it
lays flat so it fits in the laptop bag. Inflate the mouse to use.

I already have a liquid filled mouse:
http://www.liquidmouse.com.cn

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

ChairmanOfTheBored wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:10:20 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
D from BC hath wroth:

I fixed my mouse* in less time compared to driving in traffic, finding
parking at the store, shopping around, waiting at the cash (no I don't
want the extended warranty), then driving in traffic to get back home.
I seem to have the opposite problem. I have a mouse infestation. See
the mice hanging on the door in:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/office/slides/office-panorama-2.html
Most of those were inherited from those too lazy, too busy, or too
clueless to clean the crud out of the mouse. The brand new mice are
in boxes buried in the closet.

But wait, there is a solution:
http://www.victorpest.com/mouse_snap_traps.htm

[...]


Had a live-in job once guarding a warehouse. It was full of mice. I
was catching 7 a day in standard traps. It was during the time when that
lady died from hunta virus, so I was getting worried about handling them
since they spew **** all over the place as they die.

My solution:

Bright white B-sized sheet of bond paper, center of floor just to the
left of TV.

Pellet rifle with well aimed scope attached.

0.5 grams of peanut butter in center of paper.

Very humane, and very succinct. 7 mice a night still... comical to
watch them being so careful about coming out into the open to get that oh
so smelly good peanut butter... POP!

Got to the point where they'd run out, then run back in fear, then run
out a bit farther... then get onto the paper... POP! Another one bites
the dust, and no **** spew!


Then one day after the umpteenth beer that scope seems to become wobbly
and blurry. *POP*. Oh drat, that mouse had a USB cable attached ...


Little kid mouse says "Mommy, why hasn't Daddy come back?"
Hahahahaha! Filthy little ****ers.

Easy clean-up, and after a few weeks.. hardly a mouse to be found!


--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Jeff Liebermann hath wroth:

I also want is an inflatable mouse for my laptops. Deflate and it
lays flat so it fits in the laptop bag. Inflate the mouse to use.

What to do with old mouse pads:
http://people.rit.edu/jpsdss/couch/

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558