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OT The meter reader cometh
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:16:02 GMT, dave wrote:
|AFAIK these meter readers don't work for the elec co as such but some |"Independent" outfit. Otherwise I be changing supply right now. I just wish |there was some way I could complain about this bloke. I pity the treatment the |more vulnerable people his visits get. The *general* problem is that everything is now subcontracted from company A to Company B to Company C, so nobody knows if the job they purport to be doing is Kosher or not. Worse it is an absolute doddle to print out a realistic looking ID card on the little printer I have at my elbow and laminate it with the tiny laminator on the shelf within arms length. Perhaps we should refuse to allow them access. BTW I saw a nondescript van with a name I had never heard doing something with the fire hydrant in our Grove, and wondered if it could be a terrorist attack. Perhaps I should have kicked up a fuss. Unfortunately although over 70 no one could call me vulnerable. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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from Dave Fawthrop contains these words: Worse it is an absolute doddle to print out a realistic looking ID card on the little printer I have at my elbow and laminate it with the tiny laminator on the shelf within arms length. I got in and out of deBeers in Hatton Garden many times when I worked for Rediffusion with a home-made ID card based on a Rediffusion business card tarted up with Letraset (this was before decent printers). The **** only hit the fan when I was finally issued with a proper card and tried to use it. Worked for the Officers' Mess at Woolwich Arsenal, too. Security there was risible - while the IRA were blowing things up they made a big show of inspecting the underside of my estate Astra with a mirror on a stick but didn't look in any of the large carboard boxes that filled the rear. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:14:02 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
wrote: snipped ..... BTW I saw a nondescript van with a name I had never heard doing something with the fire hydrant in our Grove, and wondered if it could be a terrorist attack. Perhaps I should have kicked up a fuss. You serious ......?????????????? |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:21:00 +0100, Stuart
wrote: |On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:14:02 +0100, Dave Fawthrop wrote: | |snipped ..... | |BTW I saw a nondescript van with a name I had never heard doing something |with the fire hydrant in our Grove, and wondered if it could be a terrorist |attack. Perhaps I should have kicked up a fuss. | | | |You serious ......?????????????? Contamination of water supply would be an easy thing to do and could kill lots of people. Camelford springs to mind http://www.waterquality.crc.org.au/hsarch/HS25b.htm and *that* was a contractor. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:50:10 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
wrote: On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:21:00 +0100, Stuart wrote: |On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:14:02 +0100, Dave Fawthrop wrote: | |snipped ..... | |BTW I saw a nondescript van with a name I had never heard doing something |with the fire hydrant in our Grove, and wondered if it could be a terrorist |attack. Perhaps I should have kicked up a fuss. | | | |You serious ......?????????????? Contamination of water supply would be an easy thing to do and could kill lots of people. Camelford springs to mind http://www.waterquality.crc.org.au/hsarch/HS25b.htm and *that* was a contractor. I suppose this is all part of what happens when you get "terrorism,terrorsim,terrorism" threats shoved down your throat by this Government at every opportunity ... I read of an incident yesterday about a taxi driver who was enlisted by PC World in Glasgow to take a parcel to the local main bus station for transportation by bus complete with documentation but the driver refused to take it and it is said his reason was because the taxi driver was Asian . Stuart |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:17:34 +0100, Stuart
wrote: |On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:50:10 +0100, Dave Fawthrop wrote: | |On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:21:00 +0100, Stuart wrote: | ||On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 19:14:02 +0100, Dave Fawthrop wrote: || ||snipped ..... || ||BTW I saw a nondescript van with a name I had never heard doing something ||with the fire hydrant in our Grove, and wondered if it could be a terrorist ||attack. Perhaps I should have kicked up a fuss. || || || ||You serious ......?????????????? | |Contamination of water supply would be an easy thing to do and could kill |lots of people. Camelford springs to mind |http://www.waterquality.crc.org.au/hsarch/HS25b.htm |and *that* was a contractor. | |I suppose this is all part of what happens when you get |"terrorism,terrorsim,terrorism" threats shoved down your throat by this |Government at every opportunity ... Terrorists killed 52 people on the London Transport systems, and injured *many* others some seriously. Not to mention Bali and many other atrocities worldwide. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:50:05 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
wrote: snipped .... | |I suppose this is all part of what happens when you get |"terrorism,terrorsim,terrorism" threats shoved down your throat by this |Government at every opportunity ... Terrorists killed 52 people on the London Transport systems, and injured *many* others some seriously. Not to mention Bali and many other atrocities worldwide. I am well aware of that .It doesn't mean you need to "see" terrorism round every corner . |
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from Dave Fawthrop contains these words: Contamination of water supply would be an easy thing to do and could kill lots of people. Camelford springs to mind http://www.waterquality.crc.org.au/hsarch/HS25b.htm and *that* was a contractor. Not helped by the "helpline" saying "It's perfectly OK, keep drinking it". -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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Terrorists killed 52 people on the London Transport systems, and injured
*many* others some seriously. Not to mention Bali and many other atrocities worldwide. The yanks managed 3000+ with their controlled demolition of the WTC |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 12:40:13 +0100, Colin Wilson
wrote: | Terrorists killed 52 people on the London Transport systems, and injured | *many* others some seriously. Not to mention Bali and many other atrocities | worldwide. | |The yanks managed 3000+ with their controlled demolition of the WTC Now "yanks" is a new misspelling of "Al Qaeda" -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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|The yanks managed 3000+ with their controlled demolition of the WTC
Now "yanks" is a new misspelling of "Al Qaeda" Ahh, you mean "the list" - the list with everyone the US had funded for armed uprising, and since renamed "al qaeda" ? |
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"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:16:02 GMT, dave wrote: |AFAIK these meter readers don't work for the elec co as such but some |"Independent" outfit. Otherwise I be changing supply right now. I just wish |there was some way I could complain about this bloke. I pity the treatment the |more vulnerable people his visits get. The *general* problem is that everything is now subcontracted from company A to Company B to Company C, so nobody knows if the job they purport to be doing is Kosher or not. Worse it is an absolute doddle to print out a realistic looking ID card on the little printer I have at my elbow and laminate it with the tiny laminator on the shelf within arms length. Perhaps we should refuse to allow them access. I've been getting too many "estimated" electricity meter readings; and I've actually threatened (half seriously) not to let some of the meter readers in. This meter reading business seems to be a bit of a scam. Sylvain. BTW I saw a nondescript van with a name I had never heard doing something with the fire hydrant in our Grove, and wondered if it could be a terrorist attack. Perhaps I should have kicked up a fuss. Unfortunately although over 70 no one could call me vulnerable. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:50:05 +0100 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:- Terrorists killed 52 people on the London Transport systems, and injured *many* others some seriously. As a quick reality check on the activities of the Westminster government and much of the mass media, both of which are very keen on hyping the activities of some criminals in various ways, in 2005 motorists killed around 3000 people on the UK road system and injured *many* others, some seriously. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:05:31 +0100, David Hansen
wrote: |On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:50:05 +0100 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop wrote this:- | |Terrorists killed 52 people on the London Transport systems, and injured |*many* others some seriously. | |As a quick reality check on the activities of the Westminster |government and much of the mass media, both of which are very keen |on hyping the activities of some criminals in various ways, in 2005 |motorists killed around 3000 people on the UK road system and |injured *many* others, some seriously. And all governments have done a lot about reducing that as well. Enforcing speed limits, putting in traffic calming measures and improving the treatment of victims, to name but a few. When I first noticed that statistic we were killing 22 people per day, and it is now below 10. Something *all* governments rightly do well. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:48:50 UTC, Dave Fawthrop
wrote: And all governments have done a lot about reducing that as well. Enforcing speed limits To make money. putting in traffic calming measures Which can have a negative impact on road safety and improving the treatment of victims Closing A&E departments. Yes. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
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On 17 Sep 2006 12:03:22 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote:
|On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:48:50 UTC, Dave Fawthrop wrote: | | And all governments have done a lot about reducing that as well. | Enforcing speed limits | |To make money. It actually saves lives | | putting in traffic calming measures | |Which can have a negative impact on road safety Which save lives | and improving the treatment of victims | |Closing A&E departments. | |Yes. Have you been in an A&E dept lately? All high tech in order to save more lives. You snipped the reduction in death rates from 22 to less than 10 in my memory. while traffic has increased massively. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:48:50 +0100 someone who may be Dave Fawthrop
wrote this:- And all governments have done a lot about reducing that as well. There is a very long way to go before those killed by motorists are of the same order of magnitude as those killed by those criminals who happen to be called terrorists by some. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:41:45 UTC, Dave Fawthrop
wrote: | and improving the treatment of victims | |Closing A&E departments. | Have you been in an A&E dept lately? All high tech in order to save more lives. Except that it's now twice as far to travel..costing some lives. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
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On 17 Sep 2006 14:18:35 GMT someone who may be "Bob Eager"
wrote this:- Have you been in an A&E dept lately? All high tech in order to save more lives. Except that it's now twice as far to travel..costing some lives. A difficult one to answer. It might be that better staffed A&E departments are not simply the wet dream of producer interests, but do save lives despite the extra distances involved. I'm not convinced at the moment though, in much the same way as I'm not convinced that large control rooms without local knowledge are a step forward. What is clear is that a lot of "road safety" improvements are nothing of the sort, but are rather improvements made by the medical mob. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:41:45 +0100, Dave Fawthrop wrote:
Have you been in an A&E dept lately? All high tech in order to save more lives. If you actually arrive at A&E alive enough to be saved. Our nearest A&E is the best part of 30 miles away and the other side of a city. An hour or more in the back of an ambulance. Anything serious requires the use of the *charity* funded Air Ambulance. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On 2006-09-17 13:41:45 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
said: On 17 Sep 2006 12:03:22 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: |Closing A&E departments. | |Yes. Have you been in an A&E dept lately? Yes. Disastrous experience that I would not care to repeat. All high tech in order to save more lives. To a point, but service and environment exceeded in the third world. Not at all impressive. |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:57:40 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:
|On 2006-09-17 13:41:45 +0100, Dave Fawthrop said: | | On 17 Sep 2006 12:03:22 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: | | |Closing A&E departments. | | | |Yes. | | Have you been in an A&E dept lately? | |Yes. Disastrous experience that I would not care to repeat. | | | All high tech in order to save more lives. | |To a point, but service and environment exceeded in the third world. |Not at all impressive. Having availed myself of A&E services twice this year, I had absolutely excellent service. Ambulance Service was top notch a well. Neither could have been bettered :-) -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On 2006-09-17 18:56:34 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
said: On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:57:40 +0100, Andy Hall wrote: |On 2006-09-17 13:41:45 +0100, Dave Fawthrop said: | | On 17 Sep 2006 12:03:22 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: | | |Closing A&E departments. | | | |Yes. | | Have you been in an A&E dept lately? | |Yes. Disastrous experience that I would not care to repeat. | | | All high tech in order to save more lives. | |To a point, but service and environment exceeded in the third world. |Not at all impressive. Having availed myself of A&E services twice this year, I had absolutely excellent service. Ambulance Service was top notch a well. Neither could have been bettered :-) I guess that you haven't been around much.... |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:19:15 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:
|On 2006-09-17 18:56:34 +0100, Dave Fawthrop said: | | On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:57:40 +0100, Andy Hall wrote: | | |On 2006-09-17 13:41:45 +0100, Dave Fawthrop | said: | | | | On 17 Sep 2006 12:03:22 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: | | | |Closing A&E departments. | | | | | |Yes. | | | Have you been in an A&E dept lately? | | | |Yes. Disastrous experience that I would not care to repeat. | | | | | | All high tech in order to save more lives. | | | |To a point, but service and environment exceeded in the third world. | |Not at all impressive. | | Having availed myself of A&E services twice this year, I had absolutely | excellent service. Ambulance Service was top notch a well. Neither | could have been bettered :-) | |I guess that you haven't been around much.... Only 70 years ;-) -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
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On 2006-09-17 20:50:41 +0100, Dave Fawthrop
said: On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:19:15 +0100, Andy Hall wrote: |On 2006-09-17 18:56:34 +0100, Dave Fawthrop said: | | On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 17:57:40 +0100, Andy Hall wrote: | | |On 2006-09-17 13:41:45 +0100, Dave Fawthrop | said: | | | | On 17 Sep 2006 12:03:22 GMT, "Bob Eager" wrote: | | | |Closing A&E departments. | | | | | |Yes. | | | Have you been in an A&E dept lately? | | | |Yes. Disastrous experience that I would not care to repeat. | | | | | | All high tech in order to save more lives. | | | |To a point, but service and environment exceeded in the third world. | |Not at all impressive. | | Having availed myself of A&E services twice this year, I had absolutely | excellent service. Ambulance Service was top notch a well. Neither | could have been bettered :-) | |I guess that you haven't been around much.... Only 70 years ;-) Watch out for the next ones.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5350310.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/5327796.stm |
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