OK, I'll admit than I am a 15+ year "Normite". I know
the bearded guy takes a lot of abuse from some here on the wreck.
My standard response is that someday I hope to be
good enough to be cynical of him.

There are those of us who try to aspire to
his craftmanship. I know that some find his workmanship
beneath them (it's the nail gun most often - or is it the
staining of the cherry?)

Finally, our local PBS has stopped the fundraising BS and
started some regular programming. I have been taping the new
NYW episodes, so I was pleased to see that not one but TWO
new shows for today (Saturday). The second of which was the
first episode to the highboy made from tiger maple.

I don't see how anyone - even those with much more
craftmanship than mine certainly, can complain about a
fellow who is apparantly building *TWO* of these absolutely
stuning pieces of woodworking - just to help us poor schmucks
who might someday aspire to try.

There he is, with his "prototype" (all stained and nicely finished)
sitting in the background in the the shop, as he shows every step of
the base construction of a second piece. Noticed that he used the Leigh
jig twice to sweeten up those dovetails. Never saw him do that before.

Sometimes, after a time on the wreck, I start thinking that Norm
is just too commercial (like Villa). After today, I don't think
that I can be convinced of that.

Even if he retired now.

This guy is a craftsman in anyone's league.

Lou

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Did you see how he made the moulding for the top? Our two PBS's haven't
shown these episodes yet.

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Rumpty

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"loutent" wrote in message
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OK, I'll admit than I am a 15+ year "Normite". I know
the bearded guy takes a lot of abuse from some here on the wreck.
My standard response is that someday I hope to be
good enough to be cynical of him.

There are those of us who try to aspire to
his craftmanship. I know that some find his workmanship
beneath them (it's the nail gun most often - or is it the
staining of the cherry?)

Finally, our local PBS has stopped the fundraising BS and
started some regular programming. I have been taping the new
NYW episodes, so I was pleased to see that not one but TWO
new shows for today (Saturday). The second of which was the
first episode to the highboy made from tiger maple.

I don't see how anyone - even those with much more
craftmanship than mine certainly, can complain about a
fellow who is apparantly building *TWO* of these absolutely
stuning pieces of woodworking - just to help us poor schmucks
who might someday aspire to try.

There he is, with his "prototype" (all stained and nicely finished)
sitting in the background in the the shop, as he shows every step of
the base construction of a second piece. Noticed that he used the Leigh
jig twice to sweeten up those dovetails. Never saw him do that before.

Sometimes, after a time on the wreck, I start thinking that Norm
is just too commercial (like Villa). After today, I don't think
that I can be convinced of that.

Even if he retired now.

This guy is a craftsman in anyone's league.

Lou

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"Rumpty" wrote in :

Did you see how he made the moulding for the top? Our two PBS's haven't
shown these episodes yet.


He did a multistage router table process, cutting the bottom/front of the
bonnet, and leaving the higher portion of the pediment for later removal.
He used his router table, rather than a shaper, reflecting the tools more
likely to be available to 'one of us'. I thought that the procedure was
shown in greater detail than most of the rest, since it was really new
ground for his program. I also thought that, having seen how he did it, I
could conceivably do something like that myself, with the tooling already
in my shop. Not that I regularly aspire to Queen Anne style.

Norm made a comment on the episode of TOH that aired this week in the Bay
Area that this highboy piece was the most challenging project he had
tackled to date. So it seemed to me.

Once again, he showed his real talent, which is making things accessible,
and empowering hobbyists. The pros already know this stuff.

Patriarch

"Patriarch" wrote in message
. 97.136...
Once again, he showed his real talent, which is making things accessible,
and empowering hobbyists. The pros already know this stuff.



Or at least fancy they do, or know better....


Just got a brad shooter at long last. It doesn't care if I'm using white
pine or hard maple edging, and for all the naysayers, I can hide a brad a
lot easier than I can hide a couple of misses with the hammer.

He did a multistage router table process,

Thanks! This moulding can also be done on the Radial Arm Saw, I just wanted
to see if he came to his senses with this project!

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"Rumpty" wrote in
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He did a multistage router table process,

Thanks! This moulding can also be done on the Radial Arm Saw, I just
wanted to see if he came to his senses with this project!


I'm sure, in the hands of an artist, many things can be done with a RAS. I
can't imagine how one would cut a curved bonnet top moulding with one,
however.

Must be a failure of imagination on my part. ;-)

Patriarch

I'm sure, in the hands of an artist, many things can be done with a RAS. I
can't imagine how one would cut a curved bonnet top moulding with one,
however.

It's done all the time! We use the Delta Shaper heads and bits, and a
variable fixed rub collar on the table, the cuts are made with the arbor
down pointing on the table and the moulding mounted to a guide board and fed
past the bit.

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Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

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"Patriarch" wrote in message
. 97.136...
"Rumpty" wrote in
:

He did a multistage router table process,

Thanks! This moulding can also be done on the Radial Arm Saw, I just
wanted to see if he came to his senses with this project!


I'm sure, in the hands of an artist, many things can be done with a RAS.
I
can't imagine how one would cut a curved bonnet top moulding with one,
however.

Must be a failure of imagination on my part. ;-)

Patriarch

In article 36,
Patriarch wrote:

"Rumpty" wrote in
:

He did a multistage router table process,

Thanks! This moulding can also be done on the Radial Arm Saw, I just
wanted to see if he came to his senses with this project!


I'm sure, in the hands of an artist, many things can be done with a RAS. I
can't imagine how one would cut a curved bonnet top moulding with one,
however.

Must be a failure of imagination on my part. ;-)

I had just come in from the my shop on Saturday and found the local
PBS station was running the "Router" show, where he was drilling holes
with a router. I decided they had taken their rule of "routers first"
overboard.

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In article 36,
Patriarch wrote:

....

Norm made a comment on the episode of TOH that aired this week in the Bay
Area that this highboy piece was the most challenging project he had
tackled to date. So it seemed to me.

He noted the prototype took over 60 hours of work, the 2nd took over
20.

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Hi Ralph,

When I heard the statement. It was 20 days for design/drawings and
construction of the prototype. Then he suggested with the drawings
the construction would be about 10 days work. That's a lot more than
60 and 20 hrs.






On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:49:39 -0800, Ralph E Lindberg
wrote:

In article 36,
Patriarch wrote:

...

Norm made a comment on the episode of TOH that aired this week in the Bay
Area that this highboy piece was the most challenging project he had
tackled to date. So it seemed to me.

He noted the prototype took over 60 hours of work, the 2nd took over
20.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:53:17 -0500, "SawDust (Pat)"
wrote:

Hi Ralph,

When I heard the statement. It was 20 days for design/drawings and
construction of the prototype. Then he suggested with the drawings
the construction would be about 10 days work. That's a lot more than
60 and 20 hrs.


Maybe he didn't count the time spent waiting for glue and finish to
dry or cure.

In article ,
"SawDust (Pat)" wrote:

Hi Ralph,

When I heard the statement. It was 20 days for design/drawings and
construction of the prototype. Then he suggested with the drawings
the construction would be about 10 days work. That's a lot more than
60 and 20 hrs.

You're right, I heard days and typed hours

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:28:18 -0500, loutent wrote:


OK, I'll admit than I am a 15+ year "Normite". I know
the bearded guy takes a lot of abuse from some here on the wreck.
My standard response is that someday I hope to be
good enough to be cynical of him.

There are those of us who try to aspire to
his craftmanship. I know that some find his workmanship
beneath them (it's the nail gun most often - or is it the
staining of the cherry?)

Finally, our local PBS has stopped the fundraising BS and
started some regular programming. I have been taping the new
NYW episodes, so I was pleased to see that not one but TWO
new shows for today (Saturday). The second of which was the
first episode to the highboy made from tiger maple.

I don't see how anyone - even those with much more
craftmanship than mine certainly, can complain about a
fellow who is apparantly building *TWO* of these absolutely
stuning pieces of woodworking - just to help us poor schmucks
who might someday aspire to try.

There he is, with his "prototype" (all stained and nicely finished)
sitting in the background in the the shop, as he shows every step of
the base construction of a second piece. Noticed that he used the Leigh
jig twice to sweeten up those dovetails. Never saw him do that before.

Sometimes, after a time on the wreck, I start thinking that Norm
is just too commercial (like Villa). After today, I don't think
that I can be convinced of that.

Even if he retired now.

This guy is a craftsman in anyone's league.

Lou



Yes, I loved this piece. In fact, it has me leaning to constucting
this, even though the style doesn't really fit in my house. Too bad.
The highboy is so cool, so impressive. Construct this, and all your
friends and family will know "you have arrived"

Of course, my remarks are directed at the hobbyist woodworker, not the
professionals. Especially Tom Plamann for whom even the highboy is
like a cub scout project.