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Cabinet Doors question help needed...
I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm building
the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the other hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how to duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link: http://www.thomasvillecabinetry.com/...RID=334&bhcp=1 This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Any ideas? |
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sysadmin wrote:
I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm building the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the other hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how to duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link: http://www.thomasvillecabinetry.com/...RID=334&bhcp=1 This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Any ideas? I can't tell exactly from the picture, but the doors look like raised panels with molded rails & stiles. This you can do with a number of door making router sets from the likes of CMT, Freud, etc. If you don't have one, you'll need a router table with a variable speed router to run them. Additionally (again, I can't see all the details) there may be some applied moldings along the inside of the rails and stiles. This isn't complicated, just another step. ~Mark. |
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:09:51 -0500, the inscrutable "sysadmin"
spake: I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm building the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the other hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how to duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link: http://www.thomasvillecabinetry.com/...RID=334&bhcp=1 Crikey, that's busy! This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Remind her how FRACKIN' HARD THEY'LL BE TO CLEAN AND DUST, then ask her gain if she still wants that particular style. Best of luck! -- The clear and present danger of top-posting explored at: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html ------------------------------------------------------ http://diversify.com Premium Website Development |
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I agree with Larry.
There is something beautiful and refined in a simple Shaker door with a flat panel, if it is done in the right proportion. Lou In article , Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:09:51 -0500, the inscrutable "sysadmin" spake: I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm building the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the other hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how to duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link: http://www.thomasvillecabinetry.com/...RID=334&bhcp=1 Crikey, that's busy! This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Remind her how FRACKIN' HARD THEY'LL BE TO CLEAN AND DUST, then ask her gain if she still wants that particular style. Best of luck! |
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"Rick LeRoy" wrote in
: I would think of telling my other half to pick another door. By indicating that the shaper, the bits, the electrician and the woodworking class will add $4000 to the cost of the kitchen? There's no shame in telling SWMBO that, as much as you'd like to be able to, there are some things you don't know how to build in the shop. Yet. I think I'd cross-reference door styles she likes to cutter sets available from CMT, Whiteside, Freud, etc. Patriarch |
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Rick LeRoy wrote:
I would think of telling my other half to pick another door. What the hell's the matter with you? He was looking for an EASY way to solve this problem?g |
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sysadmin wrote: I'll be putting together a kitchen in the next few months and I'm building the cabinets myself. The problem that I have come across is that the other hald has found the style in a store that she likes and I don't know how to duplicate that in my shop. I've included a link: This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. There're a couple of ways to come at this: [1] Build rails and stiles up from (routed) strips; [2] have the rail/stile stock cut for you on a molder; and [3] make a DXF drawing file of the profile you want and have rail/stile stock cut for you on a CNC router. This last approach may be least expensive, since your drawing file eliminates the need to have custom knives ground. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html |
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Morris Dovey wrote:
[3] make a DXF drawing file of the profile you want and have rail/stile stock cut for you on a CNC router. This last approach may be least expensive, since your drawing file eliminates the need to have custom knives ground. Actually you'd be surprised. The number of passes a CNC would have to take to make the profile would drive the cost back up. To the OP, the doors have mitered corners. You'll have to have strips run of the profile. A local shop with a molder can do this for you. Or, you could buy your doors ready made. UA100 |
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Thanks to everybody for the miriad of opinions.
I would use the opportunity to purchase more tools, but (Gasp), I have a good working set and need to actually start producing something with them. The deal with the wife was the only ay I could "Build" the kitchen was if I can make it look like the ones she wants from the store. I appreciate the simple Cherry rail and stile, while she hates grain and simplicity, etc. I think I'll take the approach that most of us would do. Build the boxes and face frames and finish everything and worry about the doors later. |
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Unisaw A100 wrote:
Morris Dovey wrote: [3] make a DXF drawing file of the profile you want and have rail/stile stock cut for you on a CNC router. This last approach may be least expensive, since your drawing file eliminates the need to have custom knives ground. Actually you'd be surprised. The number of passes a CNC would have to take to make the profile would drive the cost back up. It depends on the shop - in my case I can clamp up to 80' of 1x4 stock at a time; and the number of bit changes required might be more significant than the number of passes because I don't have any qualms about letting my machine work in the dark. It hardly ever hurts to take time to get a price. Sometimes the surprise is a happy one. (-: -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html |
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I think I'll take the approach that most of us would do. Build the boxes
and face frames and finish everything and worry about the doors later. Yahbut, please don't be coming back with the problem, "I've built some cabinets and I can't get the hardware I want to work with them". Always have the end in sight before beginning. UA100 |
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I'll bet you can come up with something that matches fairly well (probably
close but not exactly) out of individual strips of stock millwork applied over a slab door. "sysadmin" wrote in message news Thanks to everybody for the miriad of opinions. I would use the opportunity to purchase more tools, but (Gasp), I have a good working set and need to actually start producing something with them. The deal with the wife was the only ay I could "Build" the kitchen was if I can make it look like the ones she wants from the store. I appreciate the simple Cherry rail and stile, while she hates grain and simplicity, etc. I think I'll take the approach that most of us would do. Build the boxes and face frames and finish everything and worry about the doors later. |
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Crikey, that's busy!
This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Remind her how FRACKIN' HARD THEY'LL BE TO CLEAN AND DUST, then snip be sure to duck..... |
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Chuck Hoffman wrote:
I'll bet you can come up with something that matches fairly well (probably close but not exactly) out of individual strips of stock millwork applied over a slab door. Yahbut, be sure you have hardware in hand before doing this to be sure it will work and you won't be having a raised panel which if I remember the picture correctly was part of the design. UA100 |
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"sysadmin" http://www.thomasvillecabinetry.com/...RID=334&bhcp=1 This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Any ideas? Couple of ideas: Price out the cabinets from the store. That may convince her a your suggested style is better If above fails, price a divorce lawyer, then select cheapest option. Maybe a compromise with a normal raised panel door and beading bit on the edge. My first look at the doors was "wow, they look neat", but after staring for a while, they look too busy for my tastes. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:45:35 GMT, the inscrutable "Joe C."
spake: Crikey, that's busy! This is just an example, but you can see how complex the rails and stiles are. How does one do this? I would imagine a molder is used with custom knives, but that's gonna cost and what's the limit on the size of those knives. Remind her how FRACKIN' HARD THEY'LL BE TO CLEAN AND DUST, then snip be sure to duck..... Only if HE is the normal cleaner and duster in the kitchen. I rather doubt that, though there has been one pro chef here on the Wreck. I do my own cleaning/dusting since I'm single, but I'm in the vast, vast (or izzat half-vast?) minority. -- The clear and present danger of top-posting explored at: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html ------------------------------------------------------ http://diversify.com Premium Website Development |
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That raised panel did not look that hard to duplicate...
if you can't shape a large piece then shape a couple smaller and laminate together, Just a thought that what I did for the cabinet I built for my wife.. -- Log "Unisaw A100" wrote in message ... Chuck Hoffman wrote: I'll bet you can come up with something that matches fairly well (probably close but not exactly) out of individual strips of stock millwork applied over a slab door. Yahbut, be sure you have hardware in hand before doing this to be sure it will work and you won't be having a raised panel which if I remember the picture correctly was part of the design. UA100 |
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Outsource your doors.
Find a shop which only makes cabinet doors and check their profiles- One around here charges about 25 to 30 for paint (4 letter word in this forum) But if she doesn't like grain then save the money and time and go paint grade "sysadmin" wrote in message news Thanks to everybody for the miriad of opinions. I would use the opportunity to purchase more tools, but (Gasp), I have a good working set and need to actually start producing something with them. The deal with the wife was the only ay I could "Build" the kitchen was if I can make it look like the ones she wants from the store. I appreciate the simple Cherry rail and stile, while she hates grain and simplicity, etc. I think I'll take the approach that most of us would do. Build the boxes and face frames and finish everything and worry about the doors later. |
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