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QUESTION - Drill loudness
OK, I'm getting ready to embark on a project that's gonna call for
a variable speed drill being used as a stirrer, for fairly extended periods, maybe up to 30 minutes or so, multiple times. It'll be fixed in place, I'm not gonna hold it. It's a "must" that noise be kept to an absolute minimum, so apartment neighbors won't complain - it's not my place, I don't have neighbors that close. I should be able to muffle at least part of the noise with a plywood box, lined with foam or similar, or at least redirect some of it. But, I'm gonna need as quiet a drill as I can find. All my drills are old and noisy, so I'm gonna need a new one. So, does anyone out there know of any particular make or model of a variable speed corded drill that is fairly quiet? Or, at least relatively quiet? Doesn't need to be large, small will probably be best anyway. This is all the drill will be used for, so only suggest something not so expensive. Do they have one beater mixers? If they do, and they're quiet, that would probably be great. I'll have to check into that, all I'e seen have two. I'll consider any other suggestions like that too. Need variable speed, but doesn't need to exceed 100-200 RPM tops, so something else may work also. Hmm, I do belive I've got some light dimmers out in the shop, might they work as variable speed controllers? Don't bother suggesting a battery drill. JOAT Don't complain: When a dog barks, he loses his bone. - Bazooka Joe Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav |
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J T wrote:
Do they have one beater mixers? If they do, and they're quiet, that would probably be great. I'll have to check into that, all I'e seen have two. Well, now we know who doesn't do any cooking at your house. The beaters are removable (Take one out - leave one in :-) -- Morris Dovey DeSoto, Iowa USA |
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"J T" wrote in message in place, I'm not gonna hold it. It's a "must" that noise be kept to an absolute minimum, so apartment neighbors won't complain - it's not my variable speed, but doesn't need to exceed 100-200 RPM tops, so Will 100-200 RPM really be too loud? I ran my corded Milwaukee hammer drill (hammer function off) at that speed and it was quieter than the TV at standard listening level. Agreed, the noise was distinctive compared to the TV, but certainly not louder. |
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J T wrote:
Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 3:33am (EDT-1) (Morris Dovey) says: Well, now we know who doesn't do any cooking at your house. The beaters are removable (Take one out - leave one in :-) I just don't do any of that sissy cookin' stuff, that takes a mixer. Yah, I'd thought of that, but how long would it hold up, with just one going? If it's a good mixer and you're mixing liquid, perhaps a year or two nonstop. If you're mixing mud, I dunno. The mixer here has been whipping mashed potatos for more than twenty years... With only one beater it'd only be working half as hard. -- Morris Dovey DeSoto, Iowa USA |
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ok I gotta ask...what is the project?
Clif "J T" wrote in message ... OK, I'm getting ready to embark on a project that's gonna call for a variable speed drill being used as a stirrer, for fairly extended periods, maybe up to 30 minutes or so, multiple times. It'll be fixed in place, I'm not gonna hold it. It's a "must" that noise be kept to an absolute minimum, so apartment neighbors won't complain - it's not my place, I don't have neighbors that close. I should be able to muffle at least part of the noise with a plywood box, lined with foam or similar, or at least redirect some of it. But, I'm gonna need as quiet a drill as I can find. All my drills are old and noisy, so I'm gonna need a new one. So, does anyone out there know of any particular make or model of a variable speed corded drill that is fairly quiet? Or, at least relatively quiet? Doesn't need to be large, small will probably be best anyway. This is all the drill will be used for, so only suggest something not so expensive. Do they have one beater mixers? If they do, and they're quiet, that would probably be great. I'll have to check into that, all I'e seen have two. I'll consider any other suggestions like that too. Need variable speed, but doesn't need to exceed 100-200 RPM tops, so something else may work also. Hmm, I do belive I've got some light dimmers out in the shop, might they work as variable speed controllers? Don't bother suggesting a battery drill. JOAT Don't complain: When a dog barks, he loses his bone. - Bazooka Joe Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav |
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J T wrote:
Wed, Aug 25, 2004, 3:33am (EDT-1) (Morris*Dovey) says: Well, now we know who doesn't do any cooking at your house. The beaters are removable (Take one out - leave one in :-) I just don't do any of that sissy cookin' stuff, that takes a mixer. Yah, I'd thought of that, but how long would it hold up, with just one going? FWIW, KitchenAid has one beater and the more powerful models will knead black bread dough, which is far tougher than any kind of paint. Trouble is you can get a damned good drill for the price of one. Just did some rough noise level checks--Craftsman drill press at 500 RPM is 70dBA, Dewalt 18v half-inch drill is 80, Kitchenaid mixer is 70-80 depending on speed, Milwaukee 3/8" corded drill is 90, but it's an old one and the newer ones might be quieter, all measured about 3 feet away with the meter (Lutron SL-4001) pointed at the tool. Looks like your best bet for noise might be a portable drill press, as long as it gets its variable speed from belt-drive instead of a variable-speed direct-drive. Drill press noise has a different "character" from the others besides--more of a rumble where the others have more of a high-pitch whine. JOAT Don't complain: When a dog barks, he loses his bone. - Bazooka Joe Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Don't forget to consider the heat that it's going to generate. If you
put noise reducing padding around it you'll have to leave vent holes of some sort or maybe even install an additional cooling fan. Especially if the drill is running at a lower RPM I'm thinking it's going to get a bit warm being run for an extended period. |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:50:05 GMT, patriarch wrote:
(J T) wrote in news:23839-412C42B1-1@storefull- 3153.bay.webtv.net: OK, I'm getting ready to embark on a project that's gonna call for a variable speed drill being used as a stirrer, for fairly extended periods, maybe up to 30 minutes or so, multiple times. Might help if you tell us what you're mixing. I did some self-leveling mortar with a Milwaukee "holeshooter" drill . ..can't sey it was the best choice. Something like a Hole Hawg (horizontal drill, MUCH slower RPM) would have been better. At the low speeds, noise wasn't so much an issue as the dust in the bearings was. |
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How about a $60 drill press?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=44506 -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com "J T" wrote in message ... OK, I'm getting ready to embark on a project that's gonna call for a variable speed drill being used as a stirrer, for fairly extended periods, maybe up to 30 minutes or so, multiple times. It'll be fixed in place, I'm not gonna hold it. It's a "must" that noise be kept to an absolute minimum, so apartment neighbors won't complain - it's not my place, I don't have neighbors that close. I should be able to muffle at least part of the noise with a plywood box, lined with foam or similar, or at least redirect some of it. But, I'm gonna need as quiet a drill as I can find. All my drills are old and noisy, so I'm gonna need a new one. So, does anyone out there know of any particular make or model of a variable speed corded drill that is fairly quiet? Or, at least relatively quiet? Doesn't need to be large, small will probably be best anyway. This is all the drill will be used for, so only suggest something not so expensive. Do they have one beater mixers? If they do, and they're quiet, that would probably be great. I'll have to check into that, all I'e seen have two. I'll consider any other suggestions like that too. Need variable speed, but doesn't need to exceed 100-200 RPM tops, so something else may work also. Hmm, I do belive I've got some light dimmers out in the shop, might they work as variable speed controllers? Don't bother suggesting a battery drill. JOAT Don't complain: When a dog barks, he loses his bone. - Bazooka Joe Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav |
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If I tell ya what it's for, I'll probably have to kill ya, and I
can't afford the travel fare. Otherwise, I'd be happy to tell ya. OK, who still wants to know? LMAO It's not for me, and it's legal. Just that there's worry that the same noise for maybe 15-20-30 minutes will get irritating on the neighbors - thin walls, so want/need to muffle the sound as much as feasible. And, yes there would be air vents. And, no, not mixing up anything. Stirrer was likely a inappropriate word, but that's the first word that popped into my head. Trying to prototype a drive motor for an animated (power driven?) whatchmacallit, for someone else. On a low budget. Using plans from someone else (Rube Goldberg maybe). This is to be upside down, inside the "muffler" (base), and turn a model (no, not a live model). The theory is, it will be fun. I pulled out my old mixer and ran it. At the slower speeds seemed to hesitate a bit, don't know if that was from no use, age, or just the way it is. Seemed to be doable with it, but it seems to be as noisy as a drill. And, no, I'm not going to buy a drill press, even tho my drill press motor would certainly qualify as quiet enough. Be a major PITA to change speeds by changing belts tho. I think my plan now is to forget the drill, and to stop at a second-hand store and see what they've got in the way of mixers. I've seen them as low as about $1 there. I figure after the sound is muffled, it will be acceptable. I did get another project idea from this. I've been trying to figure out a not too complicated power marble lift (got manual, don't need more). Today, I remembered Junkyard Wars and golf ball machineguns. Neat. The two wheels could work. Rubber wheel on each beater shaft. Feed marbles in, it should shoot marbles out. Tube to route marbles, leading up, and power marble lift. Be neat to fine tune it enough to shoot marbles 2-3 feet in the air at the top, then have them come down in a catch funnel or something, to feed them into the marble machine, for a repeat. That would make it a marble fountain. LMAO JOAT The whole of life is a learning process. - John Keel Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav |
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Maybe I didnt see it, but yeah I wanna know
Clif "J T" wrote in message ... If I tell ya what it's for, I'll probably have to kill ya, and I can't afford the travel fare. Otherwise, I'd be happy to tell ya. OK, who still wants to know? LMAO It's not for me, and it's legal. Just that there's worry that the same noise for maybe 15-20-30 minutes will get irritating on the neighbors - thin walls, so want/need to muffle the sound as much as feasible. And, yes there would be air vents. And, no, not mixing up anything. Stirrer was likely a inappropriate word, but that's the first word that popped into my head. Trying to prototype a drive motor for an animated (power driven?) whatchmacallit, for someone else. On a low budget. Using plans from someone else (Rube Goldberg maybe). This is to be upside down, inside the "muffler" (base), and turn a model (no, not a live model). The theory is, it will be fun. I pulled out my old mixer and ran it. At the slower speeds seemed to hesitate a bit, don't know if that was from no use, age, or just the way it is. Seemed to be doable with it, but it seems to be as noisy as a drill. And, no, I'm not going to buy a drill press, even tho my drill press motor would certainly qualify as quiet enough. Be a major PITA to change speeds by changing belts tho. I think my plan now is to forget the drill, and to stop at a second-hand store and see what they've got in the way of mixers. I've seen them as low as about $1 there. I figure after the sound is muffled, it will be acceptable. I did get another project idea from this. I've been trying to figure out a not too complicated power marble lift (got manual, don't need more). Today, I remembered Junkyard Wars and golf ball machineguns. Neat. The two wheels could work. Rubber wheel on each beater shaft. Feed marbles in, it should shoot marbles out. Tube to route marbles, leading up, and power marble lift. Be neat to fine tune it enough to shoot marbles 2-3 feet in the air at the top, then have them come down in a catch funnel or something, to feed them into the marble machine, for a repeat. That would make it a marble fountain. LMAO JOAT The whole of life is a learning process. - John Keel Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav |
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:39:45 -0400, J T wrote:
If I tell ya what it's for, I'll probably have to kill ya, and I can't afford the travel fare. Otherwise, I'd be happy to tell ya. OK, who still wants to know? LMAO It's not for me, and it's legal. Just that there's worry that the same noise for maybe 15-20-30 minutes will get irritating on the neighbors - thin walls, so want/need to muffle the sound as much as feasible. And, yes there would be air vents. And, no, not mixing up anything. A drill with a universal motor probably isn't the best choice for this. You probably want to jig up some kind of reduction from an induction motor. Time to dig out your McMaster-Carr catalog. |
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You might look here for an idea. We have chemical barrels used
for ph balancing that use these type mixers. http://www.emimixers.com/datacart/rhcddd.asp The ones of which I speak have a motor similar in hp and sound to perhaps a grinder motor or washing machine or dryer motor. They are fractional horse and virtually soundless. Perhaps you can rig together a junked motor, a shaft with small propeller, a paint paddle, or other flag attached with a coupling. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Keep the whole world singing . . . . DanG (remove the sevens) "J T" wrote in message ... OK, I'm getting ready to embark on a project that's gonna call for a variable speed drill being used as a stirrer, for fairly extended periods, maybe up to 30 minutes or so, multiple times. It'll be fixed in place, I'm not gonna hold it. It's a "must" that noise be kept to an absolute minimum, so apartment neighbors won't complain - it's not my place, I don't have neighbors that close. I should be able to muffle at least part of the noise with a plywood box, lined with foam or similar, or at least redirect some of it. But, I'm gonna need as quiet a drill as I can find. All my drills are old and noisy, so I'm gonna need a new one. So, does anyone out there know of any particular make or model of a variable speed corded drill that is fairly quiet? Or, at least relatively quiet? Doesn't need to be large, small will probably be best anyway. This is all the drill will be used for, so only suggest something not so expensive. Do they have one beater mixers? If they do, and they're quiet, that would probably be great. I'll have to check into that, all I'e seen have two. I'll consider any other suggestions like that too. Need variable speed, but doesn't need to exceed 100-200 RPM tops, so something else may work also. Hmm, I do belive I've got some light dimmers out in the shop, might they work as variable speed controllers? Don't bother suggesting a battery drill. JOAT Don't complain: When a dog barks, he loses his bone. - Bazooka Joe Porky Pig says: http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/porky/Porky03.wav |
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