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I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar
clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! |
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On 1/30/2018 10:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I have many clamps that have cork.. works great. I used carpet tape to attach. -- Jeff |
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On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. |
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Can you use epoxy to secure your present pads?
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On 1/30/2018 11:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. ;~( My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. Yeah... there is that. Any pad that will deform when "squshed" will likely break the bond loose too. |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 3:21:24 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 1/30/2018 11:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. ;~( My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. Yeah... there is that. Any pad that will deform when "squshed" will likely break the bond loose too. Yeah... There is that too ;-) |
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On 1/30/2018 3:13 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 3:21:24 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 11:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. ;~( My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. Yeah... there is that. Any pad that will deform when "squshed" will likely break the bond loose too. Yeah... There is that too ;-) Thinking back.....I do recall someone using rare earth magnets to attach a wooden pad to their bar clamps. It some how stuck on the side or back so that the magnet would not be crushed. Something to think about. |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 3:29:59 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
Thinking back.....I do recall someone using rare earth magnets to attach a wooden pad to their bar clamps. It some how stuck on the side or back so that the magnet would not be crushed. Something to think about. I saw that on another site, somewhere. The poster took a drill and drilled the correct size to match his magnets and put a hole into the clamp faces just deep enough to hold his neodymium magnets in place with epoxy. Made a wood pad out of softwood, and simply pressed the magnet into the face side. The pads were about 3/8" to 1/2" thick and he used tiny magnets. According to him it worked great. Don't see why it wouldn't. You might try this for less fuss. Find it somewhere where you can return it if it doesn't work. A lot of hardware stores carry the Household Goop. I have used it on other things and it can really hold well if the surfaces are pretty clean: http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/gl...nyl&that=Metal Since all my clamps have vinyl faces, I have looked for a solution myself. The vinyl gets old, stretched out, then lost. As it is, I look like a real pro out there with my clamp pads kept in place with duct tape. Robert |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:19:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 3:29:59 PM UTC-6, Leon wrote: Thinking back.....I do recall someone using rare earth magnets to attach a wooden pad to their bar clamps. It some how stuck on the side or back so that the magnet would not be crushed. Something to think about. I saw that on another site, somewhere. The poster took a drill and drilled the correct size to match his magnets and put a hole into the clamp faces just deep enough to hold his neodymium magnets in place with epoxy. Made a wood pad out of softwood, and simply pressed the magnet into the face side. The pads were about 3/8" to 1/2" thick and he used tiny magnets. According to him it worked great. Don't see why it wouldn't. You might try this for less fuss. Find it somewhere where you can return it if it doesn't work. A lot of hardware stores carry the Household Goop. I have used it on other things and it can really hold well if the surfaces are pretty clean: http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/gl...nyl&that=Metal Since all my clamps have vinyl faces, I have looked for a solution myself.. The vinyl gets old, stretched out, then lost. As it is, I look like a real pro out there with my clamp pads kept in place with duct tape. Robert I have used Dow 732 Silicone Sealant as an adhesive for years. Might be worth a shot. Thanks for the idea. |
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On 1/30/2018 2:21 PM, Leon wrote:
On 1/30/2018 11:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: [snip] That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps.Â* The plastic covers do not come off.Â* Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. ;~( My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. Yeah... there is that.Â* Any pad that will deform when "squshed" will likely break the bond loose too. Roughing up the mating surfaces (cork, rubber or?? and metal/plastic), perhaps even drilling a TINY hole in the clamp face and then using silicone sealant to join them? Even if the "squishing" breaks the main bond, unless you pull at them the silicone that's migrated into the holes drilled should keep them attached. At one point I used some magnetic rubber strip material on the back of smallish plywood squares to hold a protective (plywood) face in place. Didn't work all that well but perhaps it would have if I'd drilled a space for the clamp face to sit. |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 11:40:21 AM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. Amen to that. |
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:40:15 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:50:36 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/30/2018 9:22 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! That is one of the exact reasons that I went with the parallel K-body style clamps. The plastic covers do not come off. Be careful with the Jet style, their plastic heads are a bit hard. Thanks, but replacing all of my clamps is not an option. My projects *cost* me money, not *make* me money. Then, there is no ROI to figure into the picture. ;-) |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:22:37 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps |
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On 1/31/18 10:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:22:37 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps If I were you, I'd try the epoxy/cork option. Cut the cork oversized, then trim with a razor after cure. You can do the same with plumbers' rubber. It comes in sheets and cuts to size. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- www.mikedrums.com |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps If you have a HF near by, might be worth a look. https://www.harborfreight.com/9-pair...ads-91952.html |
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On 1/30/2018 6:35 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
At one point I used some magnetic rubber strip material on the back of smallish plywood squares to hold a protective (plywood) face in place. I did exactly the same thing with my pipe clamps. Main problem was the magnetic strips weren't that strong. Have no idea where I got the magnetic strips. Rare earth magnets should work better. -- Jack Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. http://jbstein.com |
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DerbyDad03 wrote in
: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I've used leather pads, cut from old gloves, attached with contact cement for many years on all my clamps. Never had a problem. |
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On 1/31/2018 10:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:22:37 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps Are you using pads for aluminum bar clamps? I never used pads on that style clamp at all, only on the cast iron pipe clamp ends. Food for thought. You will certainly need to insure that you clamping force is flat on the wood surface. |
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On 2/1/2018 8:55 AM, Jack wrote:
On 1/30/2018 6:35 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote: At one point I used some magnetic rubber strip material on the back of smallish plywood squares to hold a protective (plywood) face in place. I did exactly the same thing with my pipe clamps. Main problem was the magnetic strips weren't that strong.Â* Have no idea where I got the magnetic strips.Â* Rare earth magnets should work better. Here https://www.allelectronics.com/index...Bq%5D=ma gnet is a supplier I get electronic parts from and have bought very strong magnets from. (While I am very satisfied with this place, I am not trying to advertise, just giving an example.) The NEODYMIUM magnets are really strong, hard to believe. (The rubber strip magnets are very much weaker!) There are quite a few places selling them. But availability has decreased since there are fears young kids will swallow them. If you get two or more in your guts they can pull the tubing around and close it off, which also shows how strong the magnets are. I have a friend who had a pet die after swallowing some. Some are as thin as 0.2 inches, in that ad. There might be thinner ones elsewhere. But even for thicker ones you could put the magnets in the clamps, where you can use more depth without having to use thick pads, then a thin piece of sheet steel on the back of the pads. Before drilling you could test picking up some of whatever sheet steel you have with one magnet, two, etc., to see what is needed to achieve strength you want. I think one would probably do it, even for the very small magnets, but it would be better to test before drilling holes in your clamps. Don't make holes in a clamp that a magnet will just barely fit into, though, if the surrounding metal is iron or steel! The surrounding ferrous metal will "short circuit" the magnetic field. But if you make a hole somewhat larger, say 3/8 inch for a 1/4 inch magnet, and fill the space around the magnet with something like epoxy glue, then the combination of the magnet itself and the surrounding metal as a pole-piece will actually make the attraction even stronger. I have Bessey clamps that I mostly use for nice glue-ups, but I also have a number of other clamps this might be good for. (I have just been putting in wooden shims as pads when necessary.) And I already have some of those magnets, so I think I will give it a try. (I also have chronic pains that sap most of my energy so it could be a long time before that happens!) Bob Wilson |
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On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 7:02:51 AM UTC-5, Spalted Walt wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps If you have a HF near by, might be worth a look. https://www.harborfreight.com/9-pair...ads-91952.html Those are exactly what I have been chasing around the shop for the past few years. Notice the difference between those pads and the Rockler ones. It's the wide open backs of the HF ones that cause them to fall off. |
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On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 1/31/2018 10:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:22:37 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps Are you using pads for aluminum bar clamps? I never used pads on that style clamp at all, only on the cast iron pipe clamp ends. Food for thought. How do you avoid damaging the wood? Metal clamped to wood tends to leave a mark, doesn't it? I'm talking about these. https://i.imgur.com/ODq6WZv.jpg The Bessey's came with pads and they stay on fine. My old Jorgensens came naked and those are the ones that are wearing me out, chasing the pads across the shop. None of the generic pads fit. I found links for Jorgensen 7437 pads but Amazon, Sears, B&H Photo, just about everyone that carried them say they are no longer available. The one place that claims they have them wants $4.31 for 4 pairs. Not bad, but get this: Shipping is $12.95 for one set, 21.95 for 2 sets and $29.95 for 3 sets. WTF! https://www.hammerheadsupply.com/pro...bar-clamp-pads I'll keep looking for another source because those seem like they should work. You will certainly need to insure that you clamping force is flat on the wood surface. Those clamps would still dent softer woods, woodn't they? ;-) |
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On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote: On 1/31/2018 10:14 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 10:22:37 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote: I'm getting way too much exercise from bending over to pick up the rubber pads for my bar clamps. I can't find anything that will keep them secured to the clamp. Hot glue doesn't work, doubled sided tape doesn't work, a loop of Gorilla tape doesn't work. I've got round "caps" for the smart ends and U shaped slip ons for the dumb end. Unless the pad actually clips onto the clamp, it constantly falls off. I've read about using adhesive backed cork as a more permanent solution. Before I spend the time cutting and securing the cork... 1 - Is that a good solution? 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser for both the pad and clamp and then some type of adhesive that works for both materials? (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) Thanks! I just saw these in the latest Rockler catalog. I'm not sure I like the idea of a "round peg in square hole", so to speak, but they look like they would stay on. http://www.rockler.com/clamp-pads-fo...-piston-clamps Are you using pads for aluminum bar clamps? I never used pads on that style clamp at all, only on the cast iron pipe clamp ends. Food for thought. How do you avoid damaging the wood? Metal clamped to wood tends to leave a mark, doesn't it? I'm talking about these. https://i.imgur.com/ODq6WZv.jpg Ok I'm sorry, I thought you might have been talking aluminum bar clamps. Cast iron surfaces tend to be rough and very small clamping surfaces will damage the wood. Clamps with large, flat, and smooth surfaces normally are not an issue. The Bessey's came with pads and they stay on fine. My old Jorgensens came naked and those are the ones that are wearing me out, chasing the pads across the shop. None of the generic pads fit. I found links for Jorgensen 7437 pads but Amazon, Sears, B&H Photo, just about everyone that carried them say they are no longer available. The one place that claims they have them wants $4.31 for 4 pairs. Not bad, but get this: Shipping is $12.95 for one set, 21.95 for 2 sets and $29.95 for 3 sets. WTF! https://www.hammerheadsupply.com/pro...bar-clamp-pads I'll keep looking for another source because those seem like they should work. You will certainly need to insure that you clamping force is flat on the wood surface. Those clamps would still dent softer woods, woodn't they? ;-) |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
I'm talking about these. https://i.imgur.com/ODq6WZv.jpg The Bessey's came with pads and they stay on fine. My old Jorgensens came naked and those are the ones that are wearing me out, chasing the pads across the shop. None of the generic pads fit. I found links for Jorgensen 7437 pads but Amazon, Sears, B&H Photo, just about everyone that carried them say they are no longer available. The one place that claims they have them wants $4.31 for 4 pairs. Not bad, but get this: Shipping is $12.95 for one set, 21.95 for 2 sets and $29.95 for 3 sets. WTF! https://www.hammerheadsupply.com/pro...bar-clamp-pads I'll keep looking for another source because those seem like they should work. You will probably need an adhesive with ANY replacemnet pad... https://www.andersonplywood.com/pony...ny-tools-7437/ https://www.amazon.com/Bessey-310139...dp/B0057PU9KE/ https://www.amazon.com/Bessey-310139.../dp/B005PJQU1O https://www.amazon.com/Tools-QUICK-G.../dp/B008CCLV8S |
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:22:31 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 wrote: 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser duct tape |
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:22:31 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 wrote: (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) 3d print some that will clip on or ditch them and use a scrap of wood and make it fit the clamp |
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Electric Comet on Mon, 5 Feb 2018
10:47:00 -0800 typed in rec.woodworking the following: On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:22:31 -0800 (PST) DerbyDad03 wrote: (I use wooden cauls/pads when appropriate. I'm just asking about keeping the rubber pads on so I don't have to chase them around the shop anymore.) 3d print some that will clip on Barge cement. That stuff will hold just about everything. -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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![]() @dont-email.me: On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:22:31 -0800 (PST) DerbyDad03 wrote: 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser duct tape contact cement |
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:22:31 -0800 (PST)
DerbyDad03 wrote: 2 - Is there a way to keep the rubber pads on? Some kind of degreaser drum roll please as this is the ultimate solution shrink tubing ta da well it depends on the shape of the pad and clamp there one benefit is that you can cut off the shrink tubing and put on new ones not sure why i never thought of this before but i will try it for a couple of slipping pads if you get the tubing for underground cabling is has extra gunk so it might work instead without the pads at all could get on the work though |
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The Jorgensen clamp pads are made of a thermoplastic elastomer which gives them their resiliency. Without resorting to a patent search to learn exact grade of polymer I would guess it is an olefin based elastomer like a polypropylene or polyethylene. This type of material is typically molded in its net shape without additional processing steps. In over 50 years of woodworking I swear by the Jorgensen clamps. I have passed on all of my pipe clamps however I still have ~ 2 dozen Pony Bar clamps that I use for smaller projects over the past 35+ years.
In that time due to clamping and compressing the pads have become loose fitting so as a retired polymer engineer here is a tip. You can "post-cure" these elastomeric clamp pads in a typical kitchen oven. I have done this 2 or 3 times over the past 30+ years with acceptable results. Remove the clamp pads from the clamp and I set them on a sheet of parchment paper on a cookie sheet. Preheat the over to 280F and set a time for about 35 minutes. Remove them when done and reinstall them on the clamps. My experience has been better to install the pads while they are still warm vs. letting them completely cool. They slip on easier and seem to hold their shape better. If the material is as I suspect there id no fear for harmful vapors or ingredients to leech out and contaminate your oven or your home. I hope this helps |
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