On 12/19/2016 6:42 PM, krw wrote:
On 19 Dec 2016 17:43:48 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2016-12-19, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:


Shaving... what a fool's errand!
Is it?

It was believed that beards were a primary vector for the
M. tuberculosis bacterium, one of the main reasons why
beards fell out of favor and "clean shaven" became so popular after
WWII.
Well, sex is the primary vector for gonorrhea and syphilis, but that
doesn't mean...
nb --beard to hide my dbl chin

That's been my excuse for many many years too!

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:17:09 -0700, Matt wrote:

On 12/19/2016 6:42 PM, krw wrote:
On 19 Dec 2016 17:43:48 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2016-12-19, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:


Shaving... what a fool's errand!
Is it?

It was believed that beards were a primary vector for the
M. tuberculosis bacterium, one of the main reasons why
beards fell out of favor and "clean shaven" became so popular after
WWII.
Well, sex is the primary vector for gonorrhea and syphilis, but that
doesn't mean...
nb --beard to hide my dbl chin

That's been my excuse for many many years too!

For the lack of sex?

On 12/20/2016 3:32 PM, krw wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:17:09 -0700, Matt wrote:

On 12/19/2016 6:42 PM, krw wrote:
On 19 Dec 2016 17:43:48 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2016-12-19, Puckdropper puckdropper wrote:


Shaving... what a fool's errand!
Is it?

It was believed that beards were a primary vector for the
M. tuberculosis bacterium, one of the main reasons why
beards fell out of favor and "clean shaven" became so popular after
WWII.
Well, sex is the primary vector for gonorrhea and syphilis, but that
doesn't mean...
nb --beard to hide my dbl chin
That's been my excuse for many many years too!
For the lack of sex?

Nah - the beard hides the double chin...

krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

.. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)

On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

The quality of the bend will depend greatly on the flexibility and
thickness of the outer veneer.

With cabinet grade plywoods the thickness of the outer veneer is pretty
thin.

And $375.00 I can see it in a high production or factory application but
for the typical Rockler customer..... I don't know.

On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 22:52:07 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

Can a Domino do that? ;-)

The quality of the bend will depend greatly on the flexibility and
thickness of the outer veneer.

With cabinet grade plywoods the thickness of the outer veneer is pretty
thin.

And $375.00 I can see it in a high production or factory application but
for the typical Rockler customer..... I don't know.

I didn't say I was going to buy one! I like my toys but I think I can
pass on that one.

On 2/7/2017 11:52 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold


. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

The quality of the bend will depend greatly on the flexibility and
thickness of the outer veneer.

With cabinet grade plywoods the thickness of the outer veneer is pretty
thin.

And $375.00 I can see it in a high production or factory application but
for the typical Rockler customer..... I don't know.



I think there is a market, just really small. It's a nice design, well
thought out, but pricey. And for most of us, a huge luxury that's not
needed. If we were doing many boxes with wrap around look it could pay.

As far as thickness, that's up to you , you want to drive the point down
to just a few thousandths from going through.

I do see this for small shops, that maybe do a run of wine boxes for a
company, or decorative boxes for whatever.

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On 2/8/2017 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 22:52:07 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

Can a Domino do that? ;-)

No, nor would I want it to do that, or anything else that has you
bending wood to make a 45.

On 2/8/2017 12:38 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 2/7/2017 11:52 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold



. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

The quality of the bend will depend greatly on the flexibility and
thickness of the outer veneer.

With cabinet grade plywoods the thickness of the outer veneer is pretty
thin.

And $375.00 I can see it in a high production or factory application but
for the typical Rockler customer..... I don't know.



I think there is a market, just really small. It's a nice design, well
thought out, but pricey. And for most of us, a huge luxury that's not
needed. If we were doing many boxes with wrap around look it could pay.

There are router bits that pretty much do the same thing and with out
the intricate measuring to insure that the box comes out the correct size.

http://www.infinitytools.com/routing...uter-bits-3516

And with this Rockler blade the wood grain does not go in the direction
you would want on the ends. Grain on the sides are parallel with the
bottom and top, grain on the ends changes direction 90 degrees.

There are distinct disadvantages to using one piece of wood to make a
box with out cutting it into pieces. Grain direction and larger pieces
to begin with.



As far as thickness, that's up to you , you want to drive the point down
to just a few thousandths from going through.

And that is a problem with the plywood. Outer veneers differ in
thickness by much more that a few thousands.


I do see this for small shops, that maybe do a run of wine boxes for a
company, or decorative boxes for whatever.

Again, think about the grain direction on all sides.

IMHO this is best suited for mass production of material that has no
grain, like MDF

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 6:02:31 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/8/2017 12:38 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 2/7/2017 11:52 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold



. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

The quality of the bend will depend greatly on the flexibility and
thickness of the outer veneer.

With cabinet grade plywoods the thickness of the outer veneer is pretty
thin.

And $375.00 I can see it in a high production or factory application but
for the typical Rockler customer..... I don't know.



I think there is a market, just really small. It's a nice design, well
thought out, but pricey. And for most of us, a huge luxury that's not
needed. If we were doing many boxes with wrap around look it could pay..

There are router bits that pretty much do the same thing and with out
the intricate measuring to insure that the box comes out the correct size..

http://www.infinitytools.com/routing...uter-bits-3516

And with this Rockler blade the wood grain does not go in the direction
you would want on the ends. Grain on the sides are parallel with the
bottom and top, grain on the ends changes direction 90 degrees.

There are distinct disadvantages to using one piece of wood to make a
box with out cutting it into pieces. Grain direction and larger pieces
to begin with.



As far as thickness, that's up to you , you want to drive the point down
to just a few thousandths from going through.

And that is a problem with the plywood. Outer veneers differ in
thickness by much more that a few thousands.


I do see this for small shops, that maybe do a run of wine boxes for a
company, or decorative boxes for whatever.

Again, think about the grain direction on all sides.

IMHO this is best suited for mass production of material that has no
grain, like MDF

Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood veneer would or
would it snap?

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 6:02:31 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/8/2017 12:38 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 2/7/2017 11:52 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/7/2017 8:40 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:44:04 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold



. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

But it's cheaper than a Domino. ;-)


It cannot do what a domino can, it basically enables you to cut and bend
a 45.

The quality of the bend will depend greatly on the flexibility and
thickness of the outer veneer.

With cabinet grade plywoods the thickness of the outer veneer is pretty
thin.

And $375.00 I can see it in a high production or factory application but
for the typical Rockler customer..... I don't know.



I think there is a market, just really small. It's a nice design, well
thought out, but pricey. And for most of us, a huge luxury that's not
needed. If we were doing many boxes with wrap around look it could pay.

There are router bits that pretty much do the same thing and with out
the intricate measuring to insure that the box comes out the correct size.

http://www.infinitytools.com/routing...uter-bits-3516

And with this Rockler blade the wood grain does not go in the direction
you would want on the ends. Grain on the sides are parallel with the
bottom and top, grain on the ends changes direction 90 degrees.

There are distinct disadvantages to using one piece of wood to make a
box with out cutting it into pieces. Grain direction and larger pieces
to begin with.



As far as thickness, that's up to you , you want to drive the point down
to just a few thousandths from going through.

And that is a problem with the plywood. Outer veneers differ in
thickness by much more that a few thousands.


I do see this for small shops, that maybe do a run of wine boxes for a
company, or decorative boxes for whatever.

Again, think about the grain direction on all sides.

IMHO this is best suited for mass production of material that has no
grain, like MDF

Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood veneer would or
would it snap?


It would probably break.

On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.

On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 3:33:26 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

My guess is that it wasn't 90°. ;-)

On 2/9/2017 3:33 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

Looked like about 1/4". Never saw or imagined that could happen. They
used a high speed camera to show it.

Other things that looked nifty was a bubble filled with smoke bursting.
Looks like a wrapper coming off it.

Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet writes:
On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

Enough to eventually lose coherence.

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 3:59:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 3:33 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

Looked like about 1/4". Never saw or imagined that could happen. They
used a high speed camera to show it.


Which is akin to why a hot liquid will crack a thick glass faster than
a very thin and delicate glass.

The inner surface of the thick glass begins to expand with the heat but the
outside hasn't heated up yet. Crack!

With a thin glass, the heat is more evenly distributed (and disbursed).

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/9/2017 3:33 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

Looked like about 1/4". Never saw or imagined that could happen. They
used a high speed camera to show it.


LOUD! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17tqXgvCN0E

Not so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ordi3uf60vg

Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

Yep, he's the same guy that 'invented' (cough) that down-force clamp thingy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-yPAQu4I0

On 2/9/17 4:32 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

Yep, he's the same guy that 'invented' (cough) that down-force clamp thingy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-yPAQu4I0


Pretty cool idea. Not sure why you scoff at him inventing it.


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On 2/9/2017 2:59 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 3:33 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/9/2017 9:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood
veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.


So how much was the wine glass flexing?

Looked like about 1/4". Never saw or imagined that could happen. They
used a high speed camera to show it.

WOW that is a lot. I suspect that the wave lessened stress in the parts
that needed to bend.




Other things that looked nifty was a bubble filled with smoke bursting.
Looks like a wrapper coming off it.


;~)

I always like watching liquids drip.

On 2/9/2017 4:32 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

Yep, he's the same guy that 'invented' (cough) that down-force clamp thingy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-yPAQu4I0



Oh yeah... the invention to overcome the lack of experience.. ;~)

On 2/9/2017 5:11 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 2/9/17 4:32 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold


. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

Yep, he's the same guy that 'invented' (cough) that down-force clamp
thingy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-yPAQu4I0


Pretty cool idea. Not sure why you scoff at him inventing it.


It is not necessary. Experience helps over come the situation he is
trying to avoid.

-MIKE- wrote:

On 2/9/17 4:32 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 2/7/2017 4:37 PM, Spalted Walt wrote:
krw wrote:


Seems Woodpeckers isn't the only one selling a dumb idea.

http://www.toolnut.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=calavera&trk_msg=TEUOO45PFHSK90AU4J0U4N4BN0&trk _contact=KQTSG16SEK63VR876LV4HQS4NS&utm_source=Lis trak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=http%3a%2f%2fwww.to olnut.com%2fcatalogsearch%2fresult%2f%3fq%3dcalave ra&utm_campaign=New+Calavera+Organization+Solution +Breaks+the+Mold

. . . add Rockler to the list.

http://www.rockler.com/rockler-miter-fold-dado-set

Video from a discussion of solutions to problems that
don't exist, posted here a couple of years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S074ke-EJ6U




A young guy on YouTube invented that and apparently sold it to Rockler.
Seems way too complicated to cut a 45. ;~)

Yep, he's the same guy that 'invented' (cough) that down-force clamp thingy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-yPAQu4I0


Pretty cool idea. Not sure why you scoff at him inventing it.

Andrew seems like a nice guy and I give him an A+ for effort at
finding solutions in need of a problem, but with each iteration of his
invention(s) the old adage "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance
baffle them with bull****" comes to mind. But that's just my 2¢

On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:21:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

You mean, like, springs? ;-)

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.

This should be pretty easy to test.

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 10:16:00 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:21:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

You mean, like, springs? ;-)

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.

This should be pretty easy to test.

When you are done, please upload the video to YouTube. Thanks!

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 03:50:23 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 10:16:00 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:21:11 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/9/2017 7:50 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


Real question:

If the MDF was reduced to a few thousands, would it bend like the wood veneer would or
would it snap?


Last night I was watching an episode of Street Science (series on
Science Channel). They had slow motion of a wine glass flexing under
high frequency. Things we think of as solid can flex.

You mean, like, springs? ;-)

I would think it would have some flex, but not as much as wood veneer
and then snap.

This should be pretty easy to test.

When you are done, please upload the video to YouTube. Thanks!

So easy that everone, who ares, can do it themselves! ;-)

On 2/8/17 11:38 AM, woodchucker wrote:


I think there is a market, just really small. It's a nice design, well
thought out, but pricey. And for most of us, a huge luxury that's not
needed. If we were doing many boxes with wrap around look it could pay.

As far as thickness, that's up to you , you want to drive the point down
to just a few thousandths from going through.

I do see this for small shops, that maybe do a run of wine boxes for a
company, or decorative boxes for whatever.


In my mind the benefit of this is the stepped miter. Wayyyy easier to
clamp up square. This can be done with a dado set at 45 degrees, but you
lose the step.

-BR