Lew Hodgett wrote:

Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon (02/26/11).
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Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11).

Gas is $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
(03/04/11).
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Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/11/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.
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Same bat time, same bat place except two weeks later (03/24/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.
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Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (04/01/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
morning (04/01/11)
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Gas is ONLY $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/01/11).
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Gas is ONLY $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday
afternoon.(04/03/11).
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Gas is ONLY $4.07/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday
afternoon.(04/11/11).

Wonder what Friday will bring?
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Gas is ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/15/11).
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Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/22/11).
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We are still gaining on it.

Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/29/11).

Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California
this week.
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Spoke too soon,

Later today (04/29/11), gas is now ONLY $4.13/gal at the local
cash & carry Arco this Friday afternoon.(04/29/11).
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Surprise!!

Monday morning (05/09/11), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Thursday morning (05/12/11), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Another surprise.

Monday morning (05/16/11), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Looks like the crest is still holding, at least for the moment.

Alternate energy anybody?

Looks like Lowes is starting to sell solar panel systems,
at least here in California.
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Are they playing with us or what?

Friday afternoon (05/20/11), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco which is still above 04/01/11 price levels.
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Monday morning (05/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Are they jerking our chains or what?
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Tuesday morning (05/24/11), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (06/03/11), the price of gas is now $3.81/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (06/07/11), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (06/13/11), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (06/14/11), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (06/17/11), the price of gas is now $3.74/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (06/21/11), the price of gas is now $3.71/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon (06/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (06/27/11), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon (06/29/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (07/04/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday morning (07/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.

Guess the sleigh ride is over.
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Tuesday morning (08/09/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday evening (08/11/11), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.

Haven't seen that price since 02/26/11.
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Monday afternoon (08/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (08/22/11), the price of gas is now back up to
$3.55/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (08/26/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Sunday afternoon (08/28/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.71/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.75/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday evening (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.79/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday evening (09/02/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.85/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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WEdnesday evening (09/14/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.83/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday evening (09/16/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.79/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon (09/22/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.75/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Sunday afternoon (09/25/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (09/26/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.71/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon (09/28/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (09/30/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (10/3/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.61/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (10/04/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (10/11/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon (10/12/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (10/14/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (10/18/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.77/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Saturday afternoon (10/22/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (10/25/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon (11/15/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (11/21/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
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Saturday afternoon (11/26/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco, which is where this
all started on 02/26/11.
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Monday afternoon (11/29/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (12/02/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
The chain jerking continues.
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Monday morning (12/05/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.43/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon (12/09/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon (12/14/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (12/19/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.29/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Merry Christmas, (12/25/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon, (12/28/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (12/29/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Saturday morning afternoon, (12/31/11), the price of gas is now up
to
$3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
Happy New Year.
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Monday afternoon, (01/02/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (01/26/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.57/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Sunday afternoon, (01/29/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (02/02/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon, (02/08/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon, (02/10/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Sunday night, (02/12/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon, (02/15/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (02/16/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday afternoon, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday night, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.

That's a $0.20/gal increase in a week.
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Monday night, (02/20/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday night, (02/21/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.97/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday night, (02/22/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.03/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday night, (02/23/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.11/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday night, (02/27/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.19/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday night, (02/28/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.23/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday night, (02/29/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.25/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday night, (03/01/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.27/gal at the local cash & carry
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Tuesday night, (03/06/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.23/gal at the local cash & carry
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Monday night, (03/19/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.17/gal at the local cash & carry
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Thursday night, (03/22/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.15/gal at the local cash & carry
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Monday night, (03/26/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.13/gal at the local cash & carry
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Saturday night, (03/31/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.09/gal at the local cash & carry
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Monday afternoon, (04/09/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.05/gal at the local cash & carry
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Sunday afternoon, (05/13/12), the price of gas is now $4.19/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (05/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.25/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (05/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (05/25/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon, (05/30/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon, (06/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (06/11/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (06/12/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (06/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday evening, (06/18/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (06/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (06/27/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.

Price hasn't been this low since 02/26/11 when this post first
started.
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Wednesday afternoon, (07/04/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (07/09/12), the price of gas is now $3.44/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday afternoon, (07/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (07/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon, (07/19/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (07/21/12), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday evening, (08/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (08/10/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (08/1/12), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (08/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (10/02/12), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (10/03/12), the price of gas is now $4.17/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon, (10/04/12), the price of gas is now $4.37/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (10/05/12), the price of gas is now $4.51/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday morning, (10/08/12), the price of gas is now $4.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday morning, (10/12/12), the price of gas is now $4.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday evening, (10/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday evening, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday evening, (10/19/12), the price of gas is now $4.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday morning, (10/20/12), the price of gas is now $4.29/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (10/22/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (10/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (10/24/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday morning, (10/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday morning, (10/26/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (10/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (10/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (11/02/12), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (11/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon, (11/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday morning, (11/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday morning, (11/20/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday morning, (11/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday morning, (12/06/12), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (12/14/12), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (01/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (01/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon, (01/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (02/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday morning, (02/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday morning, (02/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.97/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (02/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon, (02/11/13), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (02/16/13), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (02/19/13), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (03/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday morning, (03/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday morning, (03/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (04/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry
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Friday afternoon, (04/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon, (04/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon, (04/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon, (05/10/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon, (05/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday afternoon, (05/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday morning, (05/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning, (05/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday morning (05/31/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday morning (06/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

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Friday morning (06/28/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning (07/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

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Friday morning (07/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday morning (08/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday morning (08/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday morning (08/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday morning (09/01/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning (09/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday evening (09/07/13), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (09/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday night (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday night (09/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday night (09/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning (09/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning (10/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday evening (10/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday evening (10/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday evening (10/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday morning (10/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon (10/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (10/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon (11/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon (11/22/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday morning (12/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon (12/284/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon (12/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (01/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon (02/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (02/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday afternoon (02/16/14), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (02/19/14), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Tuesday afternoon (02/25/14), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon (03/03/14), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (03/11/14), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (03/13/14), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon (03/22/14), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon (04/05/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (04/09/14), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday afternoon (04/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon (04/11/14), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon (04/12/14), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

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Thursday afternoon (05/08/14), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon (05/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Friday afternoon (06/14/14), the price of gas is still $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday afternoon (06/29/14), the price of gas is still $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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Monday afternoon (08/04/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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Friday morning (08/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (09/04/14), the price of gas is still $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday afternoon (10/04/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday Monday morning(10/29/14), the price of gas is now
$3.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Thursday Monday morning(10/30/14), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Sunday Evening (11/02/14), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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Wednesday afternoon (11/05/14), the price of gas is now $2.93/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
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the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
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at
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
the
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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the
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the
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at
the
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at
the
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the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
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the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
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at
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at
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
the
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at
the
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at
the
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at
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at
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at
the
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at
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at
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at
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local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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at
the
local cash & carry.
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Saturday morning (09/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.


The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

Lew

In article om,
says...

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Alternate energy anybody?

It may be trickling down. My employer has something like 40 spaces for
electric cars, with charging them a "benefit", so if you have an
electric and live close enough to work your fuel cost can be zero.

On Friday, of those, I noted 4 in use, one of them was my boss's boss.
The CEO was probably charging his Tesla as well, but it's in the
executive garage and that's a bit out of the way to be noticing in
passing.

I was giving serious thought to a Volt. Had occasion to rent a car this
week, it was a Cruze, which I understand is the same body. I'm way too
old for a car like that--I just don't bend the way you have to to get in
and out of it anymore.

On 9/12/2015 7:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

I was giving serious thought to a Volt. Had occasion to rent a car this
week, it was a Cruze, which I understand is the same body. I'm way too
old for a car like that--I just don't bend the way you have to to get in
and out of it anymore.



The Volt looks a bit larger but I've only ever seen a couple of them.
They need much more range to be practical but that is improving.

I also wonder how well the climate control works in extreme
temperatures. As I get older, the creature comforts become more important.

In article ,
says...

On 9/12/2015 7:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

I was giving serious thought to a Volt. Had occasion to rent a car this
week, it was a Cruze, which I understand is the same body. I'm way too
old for a car like that--I just don't bend the way you have to to get in
and out of it anymore.



The Volt looks a bit larger but I've only ever seen a couple of them.
They need much more range to be practical but that is improving.

The Volt has an onboard generator, it has as much range as any other
car.

I also wonder how well the climate control works in extreme
temperatures. As I get older, the creature comforts become more important.

I suspect it's another case where you crank up the gas engine.

On 9/12/2015 8:58 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/12/2015 7:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

I was giving serious thought to a Volt. Had occasion to rent a car this
week, it was a Cruze, which I understand is the same body. I'm way too
old for a car like that--I just don't bend the way you have to to get in
and out of it anymore.



The Volt looks a bit larger but I've only ever seen a couple of them.
They need much more range to be practical but that is improving.

The Volt has an onboard generator, it has as much range as any other
car.

With the gas engine running you lose much of the advantage. With the
present model I can't even get to work and back, but the new one
supposedly will. It has a 53 mile range. But does that include running
the AC for comfort?


I also wonder how well the climate control works in extreme
temperatures. As I get older, the creature comforts become more important.

I suspect it's another case where you crank up the gas engine.



Again, little advantage for the extra cost up front. I drove probably
80 mules today just going to the store, lunch, etc.

In article ,
says...

On 9/12/2015 8:58 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/12/2015 7:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

I was giving serious thought to a Volt. Had occasion to rent a car this
week, it was a Cruze, which I understand is the same body. I'm way too
old for a car like that--I just don't bend the way you have to to get in
and out of it anymore.



The Volt looks a bit larger but I've only ever seen a couple of them.
They need much more range to be practical but that is improving.

The Volt has an onboard generator, it has as much range as any other
car.

With the gas engine running you lose much of the advantage. With the
present model I can't even get to work and back, but the new one
supposedly will. It has a 53 mile range. But does that include running
the AC for comfort?


I also wonder how well the climate control works in extreme
temperatures. As I get older, the creature comforts become more important.

I suspect it's another case where you crank up the gas engine.



Again, little advantage for the extra cost up front. I drove probably
80 mules today just going to the store, lunch, etc.

That's you. My daily commute is 14 miles. I can charge at work. I
just can't get in and out of the blasted thing without straining
something.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 9/12/2015 8:58 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 9/12/2015 7:33 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

I was giving serious thought to a Volt. Had occasion to rent a car this
week, it was a Cruze, which I understand is the same body. I'm way too
old for a car like that--I just don't bend the way you have to to get in
and out of it anymore.



The Volt looks a bit larger but I've only ever seen a couple of them.
They need much more range to be practical but that is improving.

The Volt has an onboard generator, it has as much range as any other
car.

With the gas engine running you lose much of the advantage. With the
present model I can't even get to work and back, but the new one
supposedly will. It has a 53 mile range. But does that include running
the AC for comfort?


I also wonder how well the climate control works in extreme
temperatures. As I get older, the creature comforts become more important.

I suspect it's another case where you crank up the gas engine.



Again, little advantage for the extra cost up front. I drove probably 80
mules today just going to the store, lunch, etc.

Well at least they are cheap to buy used. I was reading that the average
electric looses half their value in only 2 years. So either they are not as
good as what initial owners expected or troublesome.

On 9/13/2015 7:59 AM, Leon wrote:


Again, little advantage for the extra cost up front. I drove probably 80
mules today just going to the store, lunch, etc.

Well at least they are cheap to buy used. I was reading that the average
electric looses half their value in only 2 years. So either they are not as
good as what initial owners expected or troublesome.


I imagine they would be very cheap to buy as the battery life is nearing
its end. I've heard numbers of $2500 and up after 8 year warranty.

Like everything else, it should get better as technology advances. I'd
like to see more fuel cell cars.It will take some time for the
infrastructure to expand. Right now, if you run out of fuel you have to
be towed to a fuel depot. Fuel is free if you lease a Hyundai Tucson
with fuel cell.

Ed Pawlowski wrote in
:

On 9/13/2015 7:59 AM, Leon wrote:


Again, little advantage for the extra cost up front. I drove
probably 80 mules today just going to the store, lunch, etc.

Well at least they are cheap to buy used. I was reading that the
average electric looses half their value in only 2 years. So either
they are not as good as what initial owners expected or troublesome.


I imagine they would be very cheap to buy as the battery life is
nearing its end. I've heard numbers of $2500 and up after 8 year
warranty.

Like everything else, it should get better as technology advances.

That is what everyone hopes (and is a big part of why the
auto makers are using hybrid powertrains in Formula 1 and
Le Mans racing - there is nothing like competition to force
improvements).

But there has been a huge effort to improve batteries over
the last decade or more, with little to show for it. There
are excellent long life batteries - but they weigh tons.
There are excellent low weight batteries - but they have to
be kept hot, well over 200 degrees. There are low weight,
low temp batteries - but they can't discharge fast enough
to run a motor.

Everyone is hoping for a huge breakthru in batteries, the
one solution that's light, room temp, high capacity, high
discharge, but nothing looks real promising right now.

I'd
like to see more fuel cell cars.It will take some time for the
infrastructure to expand. Right now, if you run out of fuel you have
to be towed to a fuel depot. Fuel is free if you lease a Hyundai
Tucson with fuel cell.

Like CNG, fuel cells need to be introduced and debugged in
captive service - things like post office vehicles, that always
run a predictable route, and can be refuelled at the same places
every day. I don't think you'll see fuel cells for general use
for a long time, if ever.

John

In article ,
says...

Ed Pawlowski wrote in
:

On 9/13/2015 7:59 AM, Leon wrote:


Again, little advantage for the extra cost up front. I drove
probably 80 mules today just going to the store, lunch, etc.

Well at least they are cheap to buy used. I was reading that the
average electric looses half their value in only 2 years. So either
they are not as good as what initial owners expected or troublesome.


I imagine they would be very cheap to buy as the battery life is
nearing its end. I've heard numbers of $2500 and up after 8 year
warranty.

Like everything else, it should get better as technology advances.

That is what everyone hopes (and is a big part of why the
auto makers are using hybrid powertrains in Formula 1 and
Le Mans racing - there is nothing like competition to force
improvements).

But there has been a huge effort to improve batteries over
the last decade or more, with little to show for it. There
are excellent long life batteries - but they weigh tons.
There are excellent low weight batteries - but they have to
be kept hot, well over 200 degrees. There are low weight,
low temp batteries - but they can't discharge fast enough
to run a motor.

Everyone is hoping for a huge breakthru in batteries, the
one solution that's light, room temp, high capacity, high
discharge, but nothing looks real promising right now.

I'd
like to see more fuel cell cars.It will take some time for the
infrastructure to expand. Right now, if you run out of fuel you have
to be towed to a fuel depot. Fuel is free if you lease a Hyundai
Tucson with fuel cell.

Like CNG, fuel cells need to be introduced and debugged in
captive service - things like post office vehicles, that always
run a predictable route, and can be refuelled at the same places
every day. I don't think you'll see fuel cells for general use
for a long time, if ever.

John

So what specific problems do you know of with the Honda FCX Clarity,
Hundai ix35, and the Toyota Mirai, other than limited fuel distribution
and high manufacturing cost?

http://www.bbcamerica.com/top-gear/videos/james-tests-honda-clarity/

"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

So what specific problems do you know of with the Honda FCX Clarity,
Hundai ix35, and the Toyota Mirai, other than limited fuel
distribution and high manufacturing cost?

Well, obviously those are the two big ones - there are
something like 10 or 15 hydrogen refueling stations in
California, and 14000 gas stations, so building a comparable
distribution infrastructure is a huge obstacle.

And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John

In article ,
says...

"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

So what specific problems do you know of with the Honda FCX Clarity,
Hundai ix35, and the Toyota Mirai, other than limited fuel
distribution and high manufacturing cost?

Well, obviously those are the two big ones - there are
something like 10 or 15 hydrogen refueling stations in
California, and 14000 gas stations, so building a comparable
distribution infrastructure is a huge obstacle.

And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

Recharging stations do it. They're fine for someone commuting but there
are too many other cases where the short range and long charge time
don't work out.

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their house.

On 9/13/2015 5:38 PM, John McCoy wrote:



And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John


Sounds a bit like Edison/Tesla, DC/AC. Where do we invest?

We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

J. Clarke wrote:

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their house.

One of those might work in a 2-car family. One would work for me.

J. Clarke wrote:

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their
house.
---------------------------------------
Depends on where you live.

Lew

On 9/13/2015 7:28 PM, Bill wrote:
J. Clarke wrote:

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their house.

One of those might work in a 2-car family. One would work for me.

It would work for my wife. Most she goes in a day is 10 miles. She
uses my hand-me-down car though, I'm not spending $30k+ for 1000 miles a
year.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:38:52 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
wrote:

"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

So what specific problems do you know of with the Honda FCX Clarity,
Hundai ix35, and the Toyota Mirai, other than limited fuel
distribution and high manufacturing cost?

Well, obviously those are the two big ones - there are
something like 10 or 15 hydrogen refueling stations in
California, and 14000 gas stations, so building a comparable
distribution infrastructure is a huge obstacle.

That tells you everything you need to know. If even the CA nuts don't
want it, forget the whole idea.

And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Let Toyota **** away their profits, if their stock holders allow it.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

Oh, good Lord NO! Stop using my money to play in your sandbox (and
make a lot of people rich). Just where are you going to get this
hydrogen? Oil? Gas?

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

Don't forget reliability. The membranes are easily poisoned.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/13/2015 5:38 PM, John McCoy wrote:



And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John


Sounds a bit like Edison/Tesla, DC/AC. Where do we invest?

We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed. As/if
oil "runs out" it won't happen overnight. The cost of oil will
increase and there will be plenty of time to develop whatever
infrastructure will be needed. It's far better to allow this to
happen than force the issue. Picking winners and losers now is a
fools game. Government doing it is far, far, worse.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 16:44:54 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

J. Clarke wrote:

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their
house.
---------------------------------------
Depends on where you live.

No, it doesn't.

In article ,
says...

J. Clarke wrote:

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their house.

One of those might work in a 2-car family. One would work for me.

And that's where the market seems to be--second cars.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/13/2015 5:38 PM, John McCoy wrote:



And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John


Sounds a bit like Edison/Tesla, DC/AC. Where do we invest?

We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed. As/if
oil "runs out" it won't happen overnight. The cost of oil will
increase

Eventually. Remember, right now we seem to be having the opposite
problem.

and there will be plenty of time to develop whatever
infrastructure will be needed. It's far better to allow this to
happen than force the issue. Picking winners and losers now is a
fools game. Government doing it is far, far, worse.

Yep. Californica demanding electric cars be sold as a condition of
being allowed to do business in their state is just evil. The sad part
is that other states are following their model.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:38:49 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/13/2015 5:38 PM, John McCoy wrote:



And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John


Sounds a bit like Edison/Tesla, DC/AC. Where do we invest?

We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed. As/if
oil "runs out" it won't happen overnight. The cost of oil will
increase

Eventually. Remember, right now we seem to be having the opposite
problem.

Exactly. The price of oil will most likely stabilize (my guess
$40-$50/bbl) because OPEC has been effectively busted. Fracking and
shale will effectively buffer prices.

and there will be plenty of time to develop whatever
infrastructure will be needed. It's far better to allow this to
happen than force the issue. Picking winners and losers now is a
fools game. Government doing it is far, far, worse.

Yep. Californica demanding electric cars be sold as a condition of
being allowed to do business in their state is just evil. The sad part
is that other states are following their model.

That's not the worst of it. Government has no business picking
winners and losers. It hasn't anymore the expertise to do this than
the Politbuto had growing wheat. All it can do is transfer my money
to government bureaucrats and politicians' cronies.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:38:49 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/13/2015 5:38 PM, John McCoy wrote:



And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John


Sounds a bit like Edison/Tesla, DC/AC. Where do we invest?

We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed. As/if
oil "runs out" it won't happen overnight. The cost of oil will
increase

Eventually. Remember, right now we seem to be having the opposite
problem.

Exactly. The price of oil will most likely stabilize (my guess
$40-$50/bbl) because OPEC has been effectively busted. Fracking and
shale will effectively buffer prices.

and there will be plenty of time to develop whatever
infrastructure will be needed. It's far better to allow this to
happen than force the issue. Picking winners and losers now is a
fools game. Government doing it is far, far, worse.

Yep. Californica demanding electric cars be sold as a condition of
being allowed to do business in their state is just evil. The sad part
is that other states are following their model.

That's not the worst of it. Government has no business picking
winners and losers. It hasn't anymore the expertise to do this than
the Politbuto had growing wheat. All it can do is transfer my money
to government bureaucrats and politicians' cronies.

That's the name of the game these days. Has your community gotten
around to implementing lawn police who are empowered to fine you $75 a
day if they see a weed in your yard?

"J. Clarke" wrote in
:

In article ,
says...

If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

Recharging stations do it. They're fine for someone commuting but
there are too many other cases where the short range and long charge
time don't work out.

People don't want to be pinned within a 40 mile radius of their house.

The issue is, far and away the bulk of trips are within 40
miles round-trip. I don't have the exact number handy, but
it's in the 90% range. If electric captures that market,
then you're talking about creating a huge hydrogen infrastructure
just to support 10% of the trips. An infrastructure which
duplicates the existing gasoline infrastructure.

That won't happen.

If charging stations become ubiquitous, what you'll see is
a lot of plug-in hybrids. They'll run electric almost all
the time, but will still be able to use gasoline for the rare
trip outside the electric range.

John

krw wrote in news:tu6cvadurp336o6b2fq4mf2r7me651insl@
4ax.com:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed.

If you want to be the one making big money, you want to
be one of the first investors. As Ed says, the trick is
to figure out which one will be the winner.

John

krw wrote in news:il6cvapc30nhn7o657a2io4j87jr4hmeml@
4ax.com:

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

Oh, good Lord NO! Stop using my money to play in your sandbox (and
make a lot of people rich). Just where are you going to get this
hydrogen? Oil? Gas?

Eh? My sandbox? Your money? What the heck are you on about?

John

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 06:39:40 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:38:49 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 9/13/2015 5:38 PM, John McCoy wrote:



And, manufacturing cost is a chicken and egg thing - now
it is very high (Toyota looses $100,000 on every one
they build), and while the expectation is that if
they're built in large volumes cost will come down, it's
questionable if anyone will be willing to take the losses
while building the volume.

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

The third thing hanging over the head of fuel cell
vehicles is efficiency. End-to-end (i.e. including
the cost of making the hydrogen) they are substantially
less efficient than plug-in electrics. If recharging
stations continue to appear at the rate they have been,
electic cars will capture the market before fuel-cell
has a chance.

John


Sounds a bit like Edison/Tesla, DC/AC. Where do we invest?

We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed. As/if
oil "runs out" it won't happen overnight. The cost of oil will
increase

Eventually. Remember, right now we seem to be having the opposite
problem.

Exactly. The price of oil will most likely stabilize (my guess
$40-$50/bbl) because OPEC has been effectively busted. Fracking and
shale will effectively buffer prices.

and there will be plenty of time to develop whatever
infrastructure will be needed. It's far better to allow this to
happen than force the issue. Picking winners and losers now is a
fools game. Government doing it is far, far, worse.

Yep. Californica demanding electric cars be sold as a condition of
being allowed to do business in their state is just evil. The sad part
is that other states are following their model.

That's not the worst of it. Government has no business picking
winners and losers. It hasn't anymore the expertise to do this than
the Politbuto had growing wheat. All it can do is transfer my money
to government bureaucrats and politicians' cronies.

That's the name of the game these days. Has your community gotten
around to implementing lawn police who are empowered to fine you $75 a
day if they see a weed in your yard?

I fear they're going that way. We had an annual meeting a couple of
weeks ago. I didn't like the direction.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:55:24 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
wrote:

krw wrote in news:tu6cvadurp336o6b2fq4mf2r7me651insl@
4ax.com:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 19:15:21 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


We probably should be investing in both until there is a clear winner.
I don't know if it is 5 years or 50,000 years. but oil will run out.

Nonsense. There is no point in investing until it's needed.

If you want to be the one making big money, you want to
be one of the first investors. As Ed says, the trick is
to figure out which one will be the winner.

I don't believe that's true in this case. The "winner" won't be known
for decades or centuries. *Everyone* investing now will be a loser.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:57:28 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
wrote:

krw wrote in news:il6cvapc30nhn7o657a2io4j87jr4hmeml@
4ax.com:

Those are the two reasons why I say they should be
introduced in a captive market like the post office.
You immediately get a substantial volume (since all
post office trucks are the same), and you don't need
much refueling infrastructure.

Oh, good Lord NO! Stop using my money to play in your sandbox (and
make a lot of people rich). Just where are you going to get this
hydrogen? Oil? Gas?

Eh? My sandbox? Your money? What the heck are you on about?

Please learn to read.

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon (02/26/11).
---------------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11).

Gas is $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
(03/04/11).
---------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/11/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.
------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except two weeks later (03/24/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.
------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (04/01/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
morning (04/01/11)
-----------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/01/11).
-----------------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday
afternoon.(04/03/11).
----------------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $4.07/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday
afternoon.(04/11/11).

Wonder what Friday will bring?
-----------------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/15/11).
-----------------------------------------
Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/22/11).
-----------------------------------------
We are still gaining on it.

Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/29/11).

Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California
this week.
-----------------------------------------
Spoke too soon,

Later today (04/29/11), gas is now ONLY $4.13/gal at the local
cash & carry Arco this Friday afternoon.(04/29/11).
-------------------------------------------------------
Surprise!!

Monday morning (05/09/11), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Thursday morning (05/12/11), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
---------------------------------------------
Another surprise.

Monday morning (05/16/11), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Looks like the crest is still holding, at least for the moment.

Alternate energy anybody?

Looks like Lowes is starting to sell solar panel systems,
at least here in California.
----------------------------------------------
Are they playing with us or what?

Friday afternoon (05/20/11), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco which is still above 04/01/11 price levels.
-------------------------------------
Monday morning (05/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Are they jerking our chains or what?
-------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (05/24/11), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/03/11), the price of gas is now $3.81/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/07/11), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (06/13/11), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/14/11), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/17/11), the price of gas is now $3.74/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/21/11), the price of gas is now $3.71/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (06/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (06/27/11), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (06/29/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (07/04/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday morning (07/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.

Guess the sleigh ride is over.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (08/09/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday evening (08/11/11), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.

Haven't seen that price since 02/26/11.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (08/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (08/22/11), the price of gas is now back up to
$3.55/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (08/26/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (08/28/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.71/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.75/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday evening (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.79/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday evening (09/02/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.85/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
WEdnesday evening (09/14/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.83/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday evening (09/16/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.79/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (09/22/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.75/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (09/25/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (09/26/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.71/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/28/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (09/30/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (10/3/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.61/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/04/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/11/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (10/12/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (10/14/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/18/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.77/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (10/22/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/25/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (11/15/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (11/21/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (11/26/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco, which is where this
all started on 02/26/11.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (11/29/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (12/02/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
The chain jerking continues.
-------------------------------------
Monday morning (12/05/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.43/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (12/09/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon (12/14/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday afternoon (12/19/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.29/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Merry Christmas, (12/25/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon, (12/28/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (12/29/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Saturday morning afternoon, (12/31/11), the price of gas is now up
to
$3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
Happy New Year.
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Monday afternoon, (01/02/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (01/26/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.57/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Sunday afternoon, (01/29/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday afternoon, (02/02/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday afternoon, (02/08/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (02/10/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Sunday night, (02/12/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Wednesday afternoon, (02/15/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (02/16/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Friday night, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.

That's a $0.20/gal increase in a week.
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Monday night, (02/20/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday night, (02/21/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.97/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday night, (02/22/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.03/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday night, (02/23/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.11/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Monday night, (02/27/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.19/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Tuesday night, (02/28/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.23/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday night, (02/29/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.25/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
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Thursday night, (03/01/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.27/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Tuesday night, (03/06/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.23/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Monday night, (03/19/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.17/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Thursday night, (03/22/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.15/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Monday night, (03/26/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.13/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Saturday night, (03/31/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.09/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (04/09/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.05/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (05/13/12), the price of gas is now $4.19/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (05/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.25/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (05/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (05/25/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (05/30/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (06/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (06/11/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (06/12/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (06/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday evening, (06/18/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (06/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (06/27/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.

Price hasn't been this low since 02/26/11 when this post first
started.
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Wednesday afternoon, (07/04/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (07/09/12), the price of gas is now $3.44/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (07/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (07/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (07/19/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (07/21/12), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday evening, (08/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (08/10/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (08/1/12), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (08/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (10/02/12), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (10/03/12), the price of gas is now $4.17/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (10/04/12), the price of gas is now $4.37/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (10/05/12), the price of gas is now $4.51/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday morning, (10/08/12), the price of gas is now $4.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (10/12/12), the price of gas is now $4.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday evening, (10/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday evening, (10/19/12), the price of gas is now $4.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning, (10/20/12), the price of gas is now $4.29/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (10/22/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (10/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (10/24/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning, (10/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (10/26/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (10/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (10/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (11/02/12), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (11/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (11/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (11/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning, (11/20/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning, (11/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning, (12/06/12), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (12/14/12), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (01/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (01/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (01/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (02/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning, (02/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (02/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.97/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (02/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (02/11/13), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (02/16/13), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (02/19/13), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (03/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning, (03/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning, (03/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (04/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (04/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (04/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (04/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (05/10/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (05/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (05/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning, (05/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning, (05/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (05/31/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (06/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

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Friday morning (06/28/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (07/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

------------------------------------
Friday morning (07/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (08/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (08/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (08/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (09/01/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (09/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday evening (09/07/13), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday night (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday night (09/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday night (09/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (09/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (10/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday evening (10/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday evening (10/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday evening (10/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (10/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (10/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (10/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (11/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (11/22/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (12/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (12/284/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (12/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (01/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (02/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (02/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (02/16/14), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (02/19/14), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (02/25/14), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (03/03/14), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (03/11/14), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (03/13/14), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (03/22/14), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/05/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (04/09/14), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (04/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (04/11/14), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/12/14), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

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Thursday afternoon (05/08/14), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (05/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/14/14), the price of gas is still $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (06/29/14), the price of gas is still $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (07/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (07/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (07/14/14), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (07/18/14), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (07/24/14), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (08/04/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/08/14), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/04/14), the price of gas is still $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/17/14), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (10/04/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (10/09/14), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (10/13/14), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (10/16/14), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (10/18/14), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (10/22/14), the price of gas is now $3.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning(10/24/14), the price of gas is now $3.12/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning(10/27/14), the price of gas is now $3.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday Monday morning(10/29/14), the price of gas is now
$3.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday Monday morning(10/30/14), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday Evening (11/02/14), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (11/05/14), the price of gas is now $2.93/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (11/09/14), the price of gas is now $2.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternooon (11/19/14), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon(11/29/14), the price of gas is now $2.83/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon(12/02/14), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon(12/04/14), the price of gas is now $2.75/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon(12/08/14), the price of gas is now $2.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (12/11/14), the price of gas is now $2.65/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (12/12/14), the price of gas is now $2.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (12/14/14), the price of gas is now $2.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (12/16/14), the price of gas is now $2.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (12/18/14), the price of gas is now $2.45/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (12/20/14), the price of gas is now $2.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (12/22/14), the price of gas is now $2.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (12/30/14), the price of gas is now $2.31/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (12/31/14), the price of gas is now $2.33/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (01/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (01/07/15), the price of gas is now $2.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (01/10/15), the price of gas is now $2.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (01/13/15), the price of gas is now $2.27/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (01/14/15), the price of gas is now $2.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (01/19/15), the price of gas is now $2.23/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (01/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.21/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (01/23/15), the price of gas is now $2.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday evening (02/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.23/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (02/04/15), the price of gas is now $2.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (02/06/15), the price of gas is now $2.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (02/09/15), the price of gas is now $2.45/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (02/10/15), the price of gas is now $2.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday evening (02/10/15), the price of gas is now $2.53/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (02/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (02/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (02/14/15), the price of gas is now $2.63/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (02/17/15), the price of gas is now $2.67/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (02/19/15), the price of gas is now $2.73/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (02/20/15), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (02/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (02/24/15), the price of gas is now $2.91/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday evening (02/24/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening (02/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.03/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday evening (02/26/15), the price of gas is now $3.13/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday evening (02/27/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (02/28/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (03/02/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (03/09/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (03/11/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday (03/13/15), the price of gas is now $3.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (03/15/15), the price of gas is now $3.09/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (03/18/15), the price of gas is now $3.03/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening (03/18/15), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday evening (03/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (03/24/15), the price of gas is now $2.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (04/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.87/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday evening (04/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/11/15), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (04/16/15), the price of gas is now $2.83/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (04/18/15), the price of gas is now $2.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (04/19/15), the price of gas is now $2.93/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday evening (04/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (04/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.02/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (04/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.02/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (04/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (04/24/15), the price of gas is now $3.13/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (04/27/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (04/28/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (05/01/15), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (05/01/15), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (05/04/15), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (05/11/15), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (05/13/15), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (05/20/15), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (05/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (05/27/15), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (05/29/15), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (05/31/15), the price of gas is now $3.47/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/02/15), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/05/15), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (06/06/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (06/10/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (06/11/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (06/15/15), the price of gas is now $3.21/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (06/15/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternon (06/23/15), the price of gas is now $3.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (07/01/15), the price of gas is now $3.13/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (07/17/15), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (07/21/15), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (07/23/15), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (07/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (08/02/15), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (08/03/15), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (08/04/15), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (08/05/15), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (08/06/15), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/07/15), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (08/08/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening (08/12/15), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (08/13/15), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (08/20/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (08/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/28/15), the price of gas is now $3.09/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (09/04/15), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (09/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (09/15/15), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

Lew

Lew Hodgett wrote:

Gas was $3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon (02/26/11).
---------------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/04/11).

Gas is $3.77/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday afternoon
(03/04/11).
---------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (03/11/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.81/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.
------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except two weeks later (03/24/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.87/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.
------------------------------------
Same bat time, same bat place except one week later (04/01/11).

Gas is ONLY $3.91/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
morning (04/01/11)
-----------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/01/11).
-----------------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $3.99/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday
afternoon.(04/03/11).
----------------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $4.07/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Monday
afternoon.(04/11/11).

Wonder what Friday will bring?
-----------------------------------------
Gas is ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/15/11).
-----------------------------------------
Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/22/11).
-----------------------------------------
We are still gaining on it.

Gas is still ONLY $4.09/gal at the local cash & carry Arco on Friday
afternoon.(04/29/11).

Looks like the rest of the country is catching up with California
this week.
-----------------------------------------
Spoke too soon,

Later today (04/29/11), gas is now ONLY $4.13/gal at the local
cash & carry Arco this Friday afternoon.(04/29/11).
-------------------------------------------------------
Surprise!!

Monday morning (05/09/11), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Thursday morning (05/12/11), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
---------------------------------------------
Another surprise.

Monday morning (05/16/11), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Looks like the crest is still holding, at least for the moment.

Alternate energy anybody?

Looks like Lowes is starting to sell solar panel systems,
at least here in California.
----------------------------------------------
Are they playing with us or what?

Friday afternoon (05/20/11), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco which is still above 04/01/11 price levels.
-------------------------------------
Monday morning (05/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.

Are they jerking our chains or what?
-------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (05/24/11), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/03/11), the price of gas is now $3.81/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/07/11), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (06/13/11), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/14/11), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/17/11), the price of gas is now $3.74/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/21/11), the price of gas is now $3.71/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (06/23/11), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (06/27/11), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (06/29/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (07/04/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday morning (07/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.

Guess the sleigh ride is over.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (08/09/11), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday evening (08/11/11), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.

Haven't seen that price since 02/26/11.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (08/15/11), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at
the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (08/22/11), the price of gas is now back up to
$3.55/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (08/26/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (08/28/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.71/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.75/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday evening (09/01/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.79/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday evening (09/02/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.85/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
WEdnesday evening (09/14/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.83/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday evening (09/16/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.79/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (09/22/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.75/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (09/25/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (09/26/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.71/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/28/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (09/30/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (10/3/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.61/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/04/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/11/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (10/12/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (10/14/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/18/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.77/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (10/22/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.73/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (10/25/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.69/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (11/15/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.65/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (11/21/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.59/gal at the
local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (11/26/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco, which is where this
all started on 02/26/11.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (11/29/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (12/02/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
The chain jerking continues.
-------------------------------------
Monday morning (12/05/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.43/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (12/09/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (12/14/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (12/19/11), the price of gas is now down to
$3.29/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Merry Christmas, (12/25/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.35/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (12/28/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.39/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (12/29/11), the price of gas is now up to
$3.45/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Saturday morning afternoon, (12/31/11), the price of gas is now up
to
$3.49/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
Happy New Year.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (01/02/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.55/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (01/26/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.57/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (01/29/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.59/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (02/02/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.61/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (02/08/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.63/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (02/10/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.69/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
------------------------------------
Sunday night, (02/12/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.73/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (02/15/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.75/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (02/16/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.79/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.85/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Friday night, (02/17/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.89/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.

That's a $0.20/gal increase in a week.
------------------------------------
Monday night, (02/20/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.93/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday night, (02/21/12), the price of gas is now up to
$3.97/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday night, (02/22/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.03/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday night, (02/23/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.11/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Monday night, (02/27/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.19/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday night, (02/28/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.23/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday night, (02/29/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.25/gal at the local cash & carry Arco.
-------------------------------------
Thursday night, (03/01/12), the price of gas is now up to
$4.27/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Tuesday night, (03/06/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.23/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Monday night, (03/19/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.17/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Thursday night, (03/22/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.15/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Monday night, (03/26/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.13/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Saturday night, (03/31/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.09/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (04/09/12), the price of gas is now down to
$4.05/gal at the local cash & carry
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (05/13/12), the price of gas is now $4.19/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (05/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.25/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (05/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (05/25/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (05/30/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (06/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (06/11/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (06/12/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (06/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday evening, (06/18/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (06/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (06/27/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.

Price hasn't been this low since 02/26/11 when this post first
started.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (07/04/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (07/09/12), the price of gas is now $3.44/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (07/15/12), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (07/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (07/19/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (07/21/12), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday evening, (08/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.77/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (08/10/12), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (08/1/12), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (08/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (10/02/12), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (10/03/12), the price of gas is now $4.17/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (10/04/12), the price of gas is now $4.37/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (10/05/12), the price of gas is now $4.51/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
-------------------------------------
Monday morning, (10/08/12), the price of gas is now $4.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (10/12/12), the price of gas is now $4.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday evening, (10/15/12), the price of gas is now $4.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening, (10/17/12), the price of gas is now $4.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday evening, (10/19/12), the price of gas is now $4.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning, (10/20/12), the price of gas is now $4.29/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (10/22/12), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (10/23/12), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (10/24/12), the price of gas is now $4.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning, (10/25/12), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (10/26/12), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (10/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (10/31/12), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (11/02/12), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (11/07/12), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (11/08/12), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (11/16/12), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning, (11/20/12), the price of gas is now $3.57/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning, (11/29/12), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning, (12/06/12), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (12/14/12), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (01/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (01/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon, (01/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (02/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning, (02/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning, (02/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.97/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (02/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon, (02/11/13), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (02/16/13), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (02/19/13), the price of gas is now $4.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (03/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning, (03/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning, (03/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (04/09/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (04/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon, (04/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon, (04/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon, (05/10/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon, (05/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon, (05/12/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning, (05/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning, (05/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (05/31/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (06/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

------------------------------------
Friday morning (06/28/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (07/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

------------------------------------
Friday morning (07/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.91/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (08/08/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (08/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (08/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (09/01/13), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (09/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday evening (09/07/13), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/11/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday night (09/13/13), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday night (09/18/13), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday night (09/23/13), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (09/25/13), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (10/02/13), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday evening (10/03/13), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday evening (10/05/13), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday evening (10/14/13), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (10/19/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (10/24/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (10/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (11/15/13), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (11/22/13), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (12/04/13), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (12/284/13), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (12/30/13), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (01/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (02/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (02/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (02/16/14), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (02/19/14), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (02/25/14), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (03/03/14), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (03/11/14), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (03/13/14), the price of gas is now $3.87/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (03/22/14), the price of gas is now $3.83/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/05/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (04/09/14), the price of gas is now $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (04/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.99/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (04/11/14), the price of gas is now $4.03/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/12/14), the price of gas is now $4.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.

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Thursday afternoon (05/08/14), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (05/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/14/14), the price of gas is still $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (06/29/14), the price of gas is still $3.93/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (07/10/14), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (07/12/14), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (07/14/14), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (07/18/14), the price of gas is now $3.75/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (07/24/14), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (08/04/14), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/08/14), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/15/14), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/04/14), the price of gas is still $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (09/17/14), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (10/04/14), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (10/09/14), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (10/13/14), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (10/16/14), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (10/18/14), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (10/22/14), the price of gas is now $3.15/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning(10/24/14), the price of gas is now $3.12/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning(10/27/14), the price of gas is now $3.09/gal at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday Monday morning(10/29/14), the price of gas is now
$3.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday Monday morning(10/30/14), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday Evening (11/02/14), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (11/05/14), the price of gas is now $2.93/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (11/09/14), the price of gas is now $2.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternooon (11/19/14), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon(11/29/14), the price of gas is now $2.83/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon(12/02/14), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon(12/04/14), the price of gas is now $2.75/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon(12/08/14), the price of gas is now $2.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (12/11/14), the price of gas is now $2.65/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (12/12/14), the price of gas is now $2.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (12/14/14), the price of gas is now $2.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (12/16/14), the price of gas is now $2.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (12/18/14), the price of gas is now $2.45/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (12/20/14), the price of gas is now $2.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (12/22/14), the price of gas is now $2.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (12/30/14), the price of gas is now $2.31/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (12/31/14), the price of gas is now $2.33/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (01/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (01/07/15), the price of gas is now $2.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (01/10/15), the price of gas is now $2.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (01/13/15), the price of gas is now $2.27/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (01/14/15), the price of gas is now $2.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (01/19/15), the price of gas is now $2.23/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (01/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.21/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (01/23/15), the price of gas is now $2.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday evening (02/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.23/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (02/04/15), the price of gas is now $2.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (02/06/15), the price of gas is now $2.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (02/09/15), the price of gas is now $2.45/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (02/10/15), the price of gas is now $2.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday evening (02/10/15), the price of gas is now $2.53/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (02/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (02/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (02/14/15), the price of gas is now $2.63/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (02/17/15), the price of gas is now $2.67/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (02/19/15), the price of gas is now $2.73/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (02/20/15), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (02/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (02/24/15), the price of gas is now $2.91/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday evening (02/24/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening (02/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.03/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday evening (02/26/15), the price of gas is now $3.13/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday evening (02/27/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (02/28/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (03/02/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (03/09/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (03/11/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday (03/13/15), the price of gas is now $3.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (03/15/15), the price of gas is now $3.09/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (03/18/15), the price of gas is now $3.03/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening (03/18/15), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday evening (03/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (03/24/15), the price of gas is now $2.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (04/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.87/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday evening (04/02/15), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/11/15), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (04/16/15), the price of gas is now $2.83/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (04/18/15), the price of gas is now $2.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday morning (04/19/15), the price of gas is now $2.93/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday evening (04/21/15), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (04/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.02/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday morning (04/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.02/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (04/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.05/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (04/24/15), the price of gas is now $3.13/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (04/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (04/27/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (04/28/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (05/01/15), the price of gas is now $3.45/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (05/01/15), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (05/04/15), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday afternoon (05/11/15), the price of gas is now $3.65/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (05/13/15), the price of gas is now $3.73/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (05/20/15), the price of gas is now $3.69/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (05/22/15), the price of gas is now $3.59/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (05/27/15), the price of gas is now $3.53/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (05/29/15), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (05/31/15), the price of gas is now $3.47/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (06/02/15), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (06/05/15), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (06/06/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (06/10/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (06/11/15), the price of gas is now $3.25/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (06/15/15), the price of gas is now $3.21/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (06/15/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternon (06/23/15), the price of gas is now $3.15/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (07/01/15), the price of gas is now $3.13/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday afternoon (07/17/15), the price of gas is now $3.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (07/21/15), the price of gas is now $3.89/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (07/23/15), the price of gas is now $3.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday afternoon (07/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (08/02/15), the price of gas is now $3.63/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Monday morning (08/03/15), the price of gas is now $3.55/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (08/04/15), the price of gas is now $3.49/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday afternoon (08/05/15), the price of gas is now $3.43/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday morning (08/06/15), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/07/15), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (08/08/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Wednesday evening (08/12/15), the price of gas is now $3.35/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (08/13/15), the price of gas is now $3.39/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Thursday afternoon (08/20/15), the price of gas is now $3.29/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday afternoon (08/25/15), the price of gas is now $3.19/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (08/28/15), the price of gas is now $3.09/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Friday morning (09/04/15), the price of gas is now $2.99/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Saturday morning (09/12/15), the price of gas is now $2.95/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Tuesday morning (09/15/15), the price of gas is now $2.85/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.
------------------------------------
Sunday afternoon (09/20/15), the price of gas is now $2.79/gal
at
the
local cash & carry.


The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

Lew

On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

i want to relate this to wood somehow

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and maintain
and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least as much
and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree trimmings to
boil water

bushes and leaves too

but in austria they have a device that converts trash into energy via plasma
conversion
this method leaves zero emissions

for austria it was so successful that they actually began importing trash
from finland

people have tried to get this done in US but of course all the useful idiots
are in all the right places and so landfills keep growing

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida

On 9/21/2015 10:42 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

i want to relate this to wood somehow

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and maintain
and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least as much
and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree trimmings to
boil water

bushes and leaves too

but in austria they have a device that converts trash into energy via plasma
conversion
this method leaves zero emissions

for austria it was so successful that they actually began importing trash
from finland

people have tried to get this done in US but of course all the useful idiots
are in all the right places and so landfills keep growing

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida



Same goes for the electric cars. A Toyota Prias was compared to a
Hummer as far as total energy consumption to build the vehicles, power
the vehicles, and eventually dispose of the vehicles.

all aspects considered, the Hummer was kinder to the environment.

Electric Comet wrote in
:

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and
maintain and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least
as much and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree
trimmings to boil water

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida

Unfortunately not. Here in Broward (Florida) we incinerate a
significant proportion of the trash (including trees and yard
waste); that produces about 66MW of power. By comparision a
small steam (coal/gas) plant would be around 300MW, and a
typical nuclear plant would be around 2000MW. A big steam
plant can be over 5000MW (altho there aren't any that large
in the US).

While recovering energy from trash certainly helps (and is
carbon neutral), there's not enough of it to replace other
energy sources.

John

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:31:33 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/21/2015 10:42 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

i want to relate this to wood somehow

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and maintain
and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least as much
and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree trimmings to
boil water

bushes and leaves too

but in austria they have a device that converts trash into energy via plasma
conversion
this method leaves zero emissions

for austria it was so successful that they actually began importing trash
from finland

people have tried to get this done in US but of course all the useful idiots
are in all the right places and so landfills keep growing

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida



Same goes for the electric cars. A Toyota Prias was compared to a
Hummer as far as total energy consumption to build the vehicles, power
the vehicles, and eventually dispose of the vehicles.

all aspects considered, the Hummer was kinder to the environment.

But the Hummer doesn't give the owner the warm fuzzy feelings that the
Pious does.

That still doesn't tell the story of the far left voting to close down
and convert a fully powered and Just certified Nuclear plant and turn it
into a gas fired plant at massive cost to the citizens for many years.
Oh - Sacramento Ca. was the place. Brand new and shinny plant that took
twenty years of red tape to build in the first place.

One thinks Bio-fuel is cost low. Gas is low. Bio-fuel - wood chips and
stumps and junk wood - costs to much to make electric power.
We have such a plant here in town. I knew the management. The chips
are worth more to make boards and paper. The forest that was flattened
by a Hurricane - you didn't hear of it, it was the one just after the
one that hit the party town of La. We had deaths and massive damage.
Those forest burned in part due to lighting hitting the felled trees.
A real mess. But the trees are to far away with the outrageous high
value for truck fuel to truck it 100 miles. So a plant was built
down there and it is running on burnt wood. Just dirty but it is good.

Martin

On 9/21/2015 10:42 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

i want to relate this to wood somehow

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and maintain
and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least as much
and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree trimmings to
boil water

bushes and leaves too

but in austria they have a device that converts trash into energy via plasma
conversion
this method leaves zero emissions

for austria it was so successful that they actually began importing trash
from finland

people have tried to get this done in US but of course all the useful idiots
are in all the right places and so landfills keep growing

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 23:54:57 +0000 (UTC)
John McCoy wrote:

Electric Comet wrote in
:

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and
maintain and dispose of and decommission that we could create at
least as much and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree
trimmings to boil water

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida

Unfortunately not. Here in Broward (Florida) we incinerate a

not sure what you meant but i found this
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...bage-into-gas/

maybe the unfortunately not was referring to something else
or is the plant in the link above no longer operational

also incineration is messy and not as efficient as plasma

significant proportion of the trash (including trees and yard
waste); that produces about 66MW of power. By comparision a
small steam (coal/gas) plant would be around 300MW, and a
typical nuclear plant would be around 2000MW. A big steam
plant can be over 5000MW (altho there aren't any that large
in the US).

nuclear is a fancy or stupid way to boil water too

While recovering energy from trash certainly helps (and is
carbon neutral), there's not enough of it to replace other
energy sources.

yes better than burying in the ground

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:23:23 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

That still doesn't tell the story of the far left voting to close down
and convert a fully powered and Just certified Nuclear plant and turn it
into a gas fired plant at massive cost to the citizens for many years.
Oh - Sacramento Ca. was the place. Brand new and shinny plant that took
twenty years of red tape to build in the first place.

That's not unique. They did it on Long Island, too. The government
allowed low-powered tests, poisoning the reactor, then shut it down
all at the expense of the rate and tax payers.

One thinks Bio-fuel is cost low. Gas is low. Bio-fuel - wood chips and
stumps and junk wood - costs to much to make electric power.
We have such a plant here in town. I knew the management. The chips
are worth more to make boards and paper. The forest that was flattened
by a Hurricane - you didn't hear of it, it was the one just after the
one that hit the party town of La. We had deaths and massive damage.
Those forest burned in part due to lighting hitting the felled trees.
A real mess. But the trees are to far away with the outrageous high
value for truck fuel to truck it 100 miles. So a plant was built
down there and it is running on burnt wood. Just dirty but it is good.

Martin

On 9/21/2015 10:42 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

i want to relate this to wood somehow

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and maintain
and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least as much
and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree trimmings to
boil water

bushes and leaves too

but in austria they have a device that converts trash into energy via plasma
conversion
this method leaves zero emissions

for austria it was so successful that they actually began importing trash
from finland

people have tried to get this done in US but of course all the useful idiots
are in all the right places and so landfills keep growing

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida

On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:31:33 -0500
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

Same goes for the electric cars. A Toyota Prias was compared to a
Hummer as far as total energy consumption to build the vehicles,
power the vehicles, and eventually dispose of the vehicles.

all aspects considered, the Hummer was kinder to the environment.

too many variables in such an argument for me to be swayed either way
lies damn lies and statistics

anyway the real problem is the false scarcity paradigm under which we
all live

On 9/21/2015 8:22 PM, krw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:31:33 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 9/21/2015 10:42 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:08:22 -0700
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

The chain jerking continues.


Alternate energy anybody?

i want to relate this to wood somehow

i heard that nuclear power plants are so expensive to build and maintain
and dispose of and decommission that we could create at least as much
and possibly more energy by burning all the urban tree trimmings to
boil water

bushes and leaves too

but in austria they have a device that converts trash into energy via plasma
conversion
this method leaves zero emissions

for austria it was so successful that they actually began importing trash
from finland

people have tried to get this done in US but of course all the useful idiots
are in all the right places and so landfills keep growing

i see in a quick search there is a plant in florida



Same goes for the electric cars. A Toyota Prias was compared to a
Hummer as far as total energy consumption to build the vehicles, power
the vehicles, and eventually dispose of the vehicles.

all aspects considered, the Hummer was kinder to the environment.

But the Hummer doesn't give the owner the warm fuzzy feelings that the
Pious does.


Oh, I think it does. LOL I think I would much rather be caught dead in
the Hummer than the Prius.