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Greetings,

I am working with curly maple for the first time, making a folding
candleholder:

http://img683.imageshack.us/i/foldin...holders11.jpg/

As usual, I am working "on a shoestring", with minimal tools, finishes,
etc. I have some dark walnut and other odd-ball oil-base stains lying
around. I expect it would be best to final-finish with my Minwax wax, as
the maple parts need to slide across one another.

But I need a darker tint, and, as I recall, maple is kinda tricky
regarding stains, etc.

Would appreciate advice/suggestions about prepping/finishing such a
project.

Thx,
P

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But I need a darker tint, and, as I recall, maple is kinda tricky
regarding stains, etc.

Would appreciate advice/suggestions about prepping/finishing such a
project.


For curly maple I have good success using water based solutions of
transtint dyes. There is an online movie from FWW showing a guy doing
a guitar body with a great technique.

1. Wet the piece andsand off standing fibers after it dries.
2. Wet it again before dying to slow\control the absorbtion. While it
is wet apply a strong coat of black dye rubbing it in evenly.
3. After it dries hand sand it until just accents of black remain in
and around the figure, accentuating it.
4. I then colored with Vintage Maple and Medium Brown dye. You could
go with Maple and some black. This time re-raise grain by wetting,
sand when dry, wet again beofre applying dye to control saturation.
Multiple coats of dye can darken.

I'll post pictures tonight.
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But I need a darker tint, and, as I recall, maple is kinda tricky
regarding stains, etc.


Would appreciate advice/suggestions about prepping/finishing such a
project.


For curly maple I have good success using water based solutions of
transtint dyes. There is an online movie from FWW showing a guy doing
a guitar body with a great technique.

1. Wet the piece andsand off standing fibers after it dries.
2. Wet it again before dying to slow\control the absorbtion. While it
is wet apply a strong coat of black dye rubbing it in evenly.
3. After it dries hand sand it until just accents of black remain in
and around the figure, accentuating it.
4. I then colored with Vintage Maple and Medium Brown dye. You could
go with Maple and some black. This time re-raise grain by wetting,
sand when dry, wet again beofre applying dye to control saturation.
Multiple coats of dye can darken.

I'll post pictures tonight.


Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.
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Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the guy
who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at waiting
and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price before
someone else bought it. He got a great deal.

Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.

Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....tate&Itemid=20
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On 2/2/2011 1:21 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the guy
who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at waiting
and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price before
someone else bought it. He got a great deal.

Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.

Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....tate&Itemid=20


Everything about the piece is "stunning", from design, to execution to
finish.

A beautifully done masterpiece ... congratulations!!

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Everything about the piece is "stunning", from design, to execution to
finish.

A beautifully done masterpiece ... congratulations!!

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Thanks. I can only take credit for the finish. I bought a kit from
Bartleys to check out my competition and figured (pun intended) I
could use it to try out my newly devised finishing technique for
figured maple.

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On 2/2/2011 1:21 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:







Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the guy
who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at waiting
and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price before
someone else bought it. He got a great deal.


Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.


Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....ent&view=artic...


Everything about the piece is "stunning", from design, to execution to
finish.

A beautifully done masterpiece ... congratulations!!

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Last update: 4/15/2010
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Yea... that is pretty cool.

I will never forget a friend of mine showing me a Les Paul (1956 IIRC)
and the back was birds-eye... they looked like pearls.. 3D pearls
floating in inter-stellar space... awesome..... No LSD.. but his girl
brewed some interesting teas.
That effect was so incredible, the back of that guitar looked like it
was 4" deep.
I heard he later sold it and paid off his mortgage.
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On 2/2/2011 2:38 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Everything about the piece is "stunning", from design, to execution to
finish.

A beautifully done masterpiece ... congratulations!!

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Thanks. I can only take credit for the finish. I bought a kit from
Bartleys to check out my competition and figured (pun intended) I
could use it to try out my newly devised finishing technique for
figured maple.


It looks like remarkably like a David J Marks' finish ... and that's a
compliment. I believe he uses General Finishes products, though.

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On 2/2/11 2:36 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/2/2011 1:21 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the guy
who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at waiting
and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price before
someone else bought it. He got a great deal.

Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.

Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....tate&Itemid=20


Everything about the piece is "stunning", from design, to execution to
finish.

A beautifully done masterpiece ... congratulations!!


What he said!


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Swingman wrote in
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On 2/2/2011 1:21 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the
guy who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at
waiting and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price
before someone else bought it. He got a great deal.

Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.

Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....nt&view=articl
e&id=36:curly-maple-table&catid=16:vintners-estate&Itemid=20


Everything about the piece is "stunning", from design, to execution to
finish.

A beautifully done masterpiece ... congratulations!!


Like Karl said ...

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SonomaProducts.com wrote:
Seen lots of stained figured maple that looks like crap.
Seen lots of it dyed with Transtint or similar quality dye
that looks stunning.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the guy
who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at waiting
and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price before
someone else bought it. He got a great deal.

Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.

Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....tate&Itemid=20


Sure wish you had posted this link earlier, so that it did not seem like I
was being patronizing in my compliment, but that is a beautiful piece. I'll
go along with the word "stunning".

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On 2/2/2011 5:28 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
SonomaProducts.com wrote:


http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....tate&Itemid=20


Sure wish you had posted this link earlier, so that it did not seem like I
was being patronizing in my compliment, but that is a beautiful piece. I'll
go along with the word "stunning".


LOL. Nothing patronizing about it, Bill's site clearly shows him to be
one of the finest craftsman on the wRec ... regardless of the ocassional
difference of opinion his money is where his mouth is, and for all the
world to see.

There's a world of difference between talking and doing, and the
showing, as in this case, adds unimpeachable credence, confidence and
inspiration to what could otherwise be, on usenet, anonymous bytes of
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Greetings,

I am working with curly maple for the first time, making a folding
candleholder:

http://img683.imageshack.us/i/foldin...holders11.jpg/

As usual, I am working "on a shoestring", with minimal tools, finishes,
etc. I have some dark walnut and other odd-ball oil-base stains lying
around. I expect it would be best to final-finish with my Minwax wax, as
the maple parts need to slide across one another.

But I need a darker tint, and, as I recall, maple is kinda tricky
regarding stains, etc.

Would appreciate advice/suggestions about prepping/finishing such a
project.

Thx,
P

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I have worked with curly maple and I just use a home brew finish of
linseed oil, varnish, and turpentine. I think the results are nice. I
tried dye and was not that pleased. I think it was too dark and will
try again. I have a lot of stock to play with. Some of my maple
projects can be seen at:


http://ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ra.../woodwork.html

and

http://ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ra...woodwork2.html
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I have worked with curly maple and I just use a home brew finish of
linseed oil, varnish, and turpentine. I think the results are nice. I
tried dye and was not that pleased. I think it was too dark and will
try again. I have a lot of stock to play with. Some of my maple
projects can be seen at:


http://ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ra.../woodwork.html

and

http://ray80538.home.comcast.net/~ra...woodwork2.html


Obviously a man skilled in "intricacy" ... some beautiful work! I envy
the amount of time you take to work with such intricate detail. Well done.

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WOW!!

Really nice work to both Sonoma and Ray.

There is some really nice finishing going on around here these days!

Robert



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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:21:07 -0800 (PST), "SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

Oops, forgot to post pics. I feel that my work on this piece falls
into the stunning category. The 20 watchers on eBay agreed and the guy
who jumped for the buy-it-now option expressed his anxiety at waiting
and he said he just had to spring for the buy-it-now price before
someone else bought it. He got a great deal.

Sorry for the long url, not sure how to make them short with my
current web setup.

Pictures of Curly Maple finish
http://www.sonomaproducts.com/index....tate&Itemid=20


I douldn't get the pic in my Firefox or IE6 browser (404 - Article #36 not found).

Thanks for the advice. I'm working with Transtint and 91% iso-alcohol.
Not too bad, so far.

P

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I douldn't get the pic in my Firefox or IE6 browser (404 - Article #36 not found).

Thanks for the advice. I'm working with Transtint and 91% iso-alcohol.
Not too bad, so far.

* P

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Yeah, my website is going through an upgrade right now and I dropped
that articel offline. There are 5 pics and you can see them at these
links

http://www.sonomaproducts.com/images...es/curly/1.jpg
.................................................. ...............................
2.jpg, etc.

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Thanks for the advice. I'm working with Transtint and 91% iso-alcohol.
Not too bad, so far.


Alcohol is a bit harder to work with. It is real easy to get lap marks
if the edge drys and the next wet section overlaps. You can rub it
down with pure alcohol to try and dilute out any differences. Also
watch for wicking. It gets in the seams and then wicks back out after
you have wiped it down and often drys before you can wipe it away
again. Same problem with water but easir to catch before it dries and
easier to wash out if you miss it. You can also replace about about
20% of the typical alcohol with isopropyl alchol which drys a little
slower.

I started with alcohol but found that the minor extra work to deal
with raised grain was way less problem then trying to get good results
with alcohol. I wet the piece completly before I start applying my
water dye and then rub it in to the depth of color I need and wash it
back out if it gets too dark, etc.
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