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Marking Guage Poll
I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin,
knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ |
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Once, not ounce. :^(
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On Jul 12, 10:34*pm, GarageWoodworks
wrote: Once, not ounce. * :^( gauge, not guage. ;^) |
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GarageWoodworks wrote:
On Jul 13, 1:49 am, Luigi Zanasi wrote: On Jul 12, 10:34 pm, GarageWoodworks wrote: Once, not ounce. :^( gauge, not guage. ;^) Damit! Thank you. Corrected. Damn it, not damit... -- |
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On Jul 13, 1:49*am, Luigi Zanasi wrote:
On Jul 12, 10:34*pm, GarageWoodworks wrote: Once, not ounce. * :^( gauge, not guage. ;^) Damit! Thank you. Corrected. |
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On Jul 13, 2:04*am, dpb wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: On Jul 13, 1:49 am, Luigi Zanasi wrote: On Jul 12, 10:34 pm, GarageWoodworks wrote: Once, not ounce. * :^( gauge, not guage. ;^) Damit! * Thank you. * *Corrected. Damn it, not damit... -- I wuz nevar good at speling. :^| |
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GarageWoodworks wrote:
I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ If you haven't, try the Veritas or Tite-Mark wheel gauges. They both lock down tightly, but the Tite-Mark has the advantage of being able to operate the fine-adjust with one hand. Both of them have A2 wheels, which means they stay sharp for a long time. Chris |
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I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin,
knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. Tite-Mark. -Zz |
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On Jul 13, 10:03*am, Chris Friesen wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ If you haven't, try the Veritas or Tite-Mark wheel gauges. *They both lock down tightly, but the Tite-Mark has the advantage of being able to operate the fine-adjust with one hand. *Both of them have A2 wheels, which means they stay sharp for a long time. Chris I was chcking out the Veritas on line last night. The micro-adjust feature is very appealing. On the shop-fox I own, the fence will move with too much force. Th knife style gauge own is made of rosewood so the thumb screw really tightens down good against the wood. If it locks down tightly like you said, I might give it a try. Thanks |
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On Jul 13, 2:04*am, dpb wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: On Jul 13, 1:49 am, Luigi Zanasi wrote: On Jul 12, 10:34 pm, GarageWoodworks wrote: Once, not ounce. * :^( gauge, not guage. ;^) Damit! * Thank you. * *Corrected. Damn it, not damit... -- I understand that dammit is now socially acceptable. Dagnabbit is allowed as well. GollyGeeWillikers is still tabu. |
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GarageWoodworks wrote:
I was chcking out the Veritas on line last night. The micro-adjust feature is very appealing. On the shop-fox I own, the fence will move with too much force. Th knife style gauge own is made of rosewood so the thumb screw really tightens down good against the wood. If it locks down tightly like you said, I might give it a try. The Veritas tightens like a router collet, so it compresses uniformly against the shaft. I like the microadjust, but save a few bucks and get the one without graduations. The TiteMark uses a pointed thumbscrews that lock into a V-groove in the shaft. Chris |
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On Jul 13, 11:13*am, Chris Friesen wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: I was chcking out the Veritas on line last night. *The micro-adjust feature is very appealing. On the shop-fox I own, the fence will move with too much force. Th knife style gauge own is made of rosewood so the thumb screw really tightens down good against the wood. If it locks down tightly like you said, I might give it a try. The Veritas tightens like a router collet, so it compresses uniformly against the shaft. *I like the microadjust, but save a few bucks and get the one without graduations. The TiteMark uses a pointed thumbscrews that lock into a V-groove in the shaft. Chris Chris- Do you have a link for the Veritas? I might be looking at the wrong model. |
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GarageWoodworks wrote:
Chris- Do you have a link for the Veritas? I might be looking at the wrong model. Here's the Veritas one. It's available in standard and micro-adjust, as well as graduated/non-graduated: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...55&cat=1,42936 Chris |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:03:03 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ If you haven't, try the Veritas or Tite-Mark wheel gauges. They both lock down tightly, but the Tite-Mark has the advantage of being able to operate the fine-adjust with one hand. Both of them have A2 wheels, which means they stay sharp for a long time. Chris I like the old Stanley. Can't remember the model number, but it has two arms with a wheel on one end of each and a pin on the other. If you only need one, the other retracts into the body out of the way. But you'd have to find an old tool dealer to get one - or be very lucky at an estate sale. I've got 2 and am very careful not to lose them :-). -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |
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On Jul 13, 11:48*am, Chris Friesen wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: Chris- Do you have a link for the Veritas? *I might be looking at the wrong model. Here's the Veritas one. *It's available in standard and micro-adjust, as well as graduated/non-graduated: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...55&cat=1,42936 Chris Yep, that's the one I was checking out. It looks like it has a regular thumb screw, but I guess it's made differently than my piece of crap. Ok, I'm sold. I have been very happy with Veritas so far. Those Canadians sure do know a thing or two about woodwerk'n. |
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GarageWoodworks wrote:
On Jul 13, 11:48 am, Chris Friesen wrote: Yep, that's the one I was checking out. It looks like it has a regular thumb screw, but I guess it's made differently than my piece of crap. Ok, I'm sold. I have been very happy with Veritas so far. Those Canadians sure do know a thing or two about woodwerk'n. On the microadjust version, you first lock the rear of the body against the shaft using the knurled nut at the back end of the head. This locks using a router collet style compression fitting. You then turn the front part of the body relative to the back of the body for fine adjustment. The fine adjustment locks with the thumbscrew. One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this (or made it oval like their 3-in-1 gauge). Chris |
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On Jul 13, 12:20*pm, Chris Friesen wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: On Jul 13, 11:48 am, Chris Friesen wrote: Yep, that's the one I was checking out. It looks like it has a regular thumb screw, but I guess it's made differently than my piece of crap. Ok, I'm sold. *I have been very happy with Veritas so far. Those Canadians sure do know a thing or two about woodwerk'n. * On the microadjust version, you first lock the rear of the body against the shaft using the knurled nut at the back end of the head. *This locks using a router collet style compression fitting. *You then turn the front part of the body relative to the back of the body for fine adjustment. The fine adjustment locks with the thumbscrew. One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! *I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this (or made it oval like their 3-in-1 gauge). Chris Thanks Chris. |
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Chris Friesen wrote:
GarageWoodworks wrote: On Jul 13, 11:48 am, Chris Friesen wrote: Yep, that's the one I was checking out. It looks like it has a regular thumb screw, but I guess it's made differently than my piece of crap. Ok, I'm sold. I have been very happy with Veritas so far. Those Canadians sure do know a thing or two about woodwerk'n. On the microadjust version, you first lock the rear of the body against the shaft using the knurled nut at the back end of the head. This locks using a router collet style compression fitting. You then turn the front part of the body relative to the back of the body for fine adjustment. The fine adjustment locks with the thumbscrew. One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this (or made it oval like their 3-in-1 gauge). Minor correction, at least if you are talking about this one http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...,42936&p=50440 which I own, it is not oval. It stays on the bench by virtue of the rod being mounted off-denter in the circular bearing disc. I still prefer my old simple pin type, with knife-sharpened pin. My complaint with the 3-in-1 is that the natural place to grip it is also the tightening mechanism, and I find myself inadvertently loosening it. OP: Alf's review of wheel-type marking gauges at the link below is the best I have found. http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4110 -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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alexy wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote: One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this (or made it oval like their 3-in-1 gauge). Minor correction, at least if you are talking about this one http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...,42936&p=50440 which I own, it is not oval. It stays on the bench by virtue of the rod being mounted off-center in the circular bearing disc. Yes, that's the one I meant. Goes to show how long I've been working on renovation projects rather than fine woodworking. Chris |
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On Jul 13, 12:45*pm, alexy wrote:
Chris Friesen wrote: GarageWoodworks wrote: On Jul 13, 11:48 am, Chris Friesen wrote: Yep, that's the one I was checking out. It looks like it has a regular thumb screw, but I guess it's made differently than my piece of crap. Ok, I'm sold. *I have been very happy with Veritas so far. Those Canadians sure do know a thing or two about woodwerk'n. * On the microadjust version, you first lock the rear of the body against the shaft using the knurled nut at the back end of the head. *This locks using a router collet style compression fitting. *You then turn the front part of the body relative to the back of the body for fine adjustment. The fine adjustment locks with the thumbscrew. One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! *I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this (or made it oval like their 3-in-1 gauge). Minor correction, at least if you are talking about this onehttp://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&cat=1,42936&p=50440 which I own, it is not oval. It stays on the bench by virtue of the rod being mounted off-denter in the circular bearing disc. I still prefer my old simple pin type, with knife-sharpened pin. My complaint with the 3-in-1 is that the natural place to grip it is also the tightening mechanism, and I find myself inadvertently loosening it. OP: Alf's review of wheel-type marking gauges at the link below is the best I have found. http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4110 -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. Nice link! Thank you. |
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"Chris Friesen" wrote: Here's the Veritas one. It's available in standard and micro-adjust, as well as graduated/non-graduated: http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...55&cat=1,42936 SFWIW Had one, found it to be a lot less useful than I thought it was going to be when I bought it. Lew |
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On Jul 13, 12:34*am, GarageWoodworks
wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ Knife cutters can be sharpened to a crowned, wheel-like profile. Bevel the stock side of the cutter to make the tool pull firm against a workpiece as you push or pull it. If you like wheel type gauges, they're very easy to make by driving a drywall screw into a block of wood, with the head set the desired offset distance from the block. |
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On Jul 13, 11:53*am, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:03:03 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: GarageWoodworks wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ If you haven't, try the Veritas or Tite-Mark wheel gauges. *They both lock down tightly, but the Tite-Mark has the advantage of being able to operate the fine-adjust with one hand. *Both of them have A2 wheels, which means they stay sharp for a long time. Chris I like the old Stanley. *Can't remember the model number, but it has two arms with a wheel on one end of each and a pin on the other. *If you only need one, the other retracts into the body out of the way. *But you'd have to find an old tool dealer to get one - or be very lucky at an estate sale. I've got 2 and am very careful not to lose them :-). Stanley #95 butt gauge has two beams with knives on either end, plus a handy square built into the stock. I reach for it more times than I do my other scratch gauges. |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 2:04 am, dpb wrote: GarageWoodworks wrote: On Jul 13, 1:49 am, Luigi Zanasi wrote: On Jul 12, 10:34 pm, GarageWoodworks wrote: Once, not ounce. :^( gauge, not guage. ;^) Damit! Thank you. Corrected. Damn it, not damit... -- I understand that dammit is now socially acceptable. Dagnabbit is allowed as well. GollyGeeWillikers is still tabu. Taboo, not tabu. |
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Taboo, not tabu.
Where's LRod when you need him? -Zz |
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Maybe spending my early years on a drafting board has affected the way I approach things, but doing layouts with a scale that doubles as a straight edge and some sharp 3H drafting pencils works for me most of the time. An old electric pencil sharpener is quite helpful. Lew |
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I'm an ol' pencil drafter myself but I surely use a knife or scribe
whenever I want a layout mark that will also cut the fibers so I get a clean cut and have a guide for my backsaw or chisel, etc, In fact, one tip I give out for doing mortises with a chisel mortise is to layout the rectangle and do deep knife cuts so the overlapping cuts of the square chisel find their way into the knof cut and you get nice clean long sides. On Jul 13, 5:49*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: Subject Maybe spending my early years on a drafting board has affected the way I approach things, but doing layouts with a scale that doubles as a straight edge and some sharp 3H drafting pencils works for me most of the time. An old electric pencil sharpener is quite helpful. Lew |
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Chris Friesen wrote:
snip One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this (or made it oval like their 3-in-1 gauge). Chris Veritas is very good at taking a Tried & True tool design and refine and improve it. This time they missed. The Tite-Mark on the other hand got it exactly right. The knurled nuts extend out beyond the diameter of the wheel on the end that acts as the fence. - and keeps it from rolling off your bench. The wheel is Single Bevel which cuts a vertical wall on one side the the "scribe" line - perfect for registering the flat bottom of a chisel against - say for example the bottom of dovetail sockets. Also makes it easy to reset the gauge off and existing scribe line - or a mortise or tenon. The single bevel wheel fits into a complimentary depression in the "fence" - safe from being dinged - something a cutting wheel this hard is proned to do. The Tite-Mark also has a nylon (?) set screw that lets you adjust how easily the "fence", middle adjuster and "end" parts slide. I've used the Tite-Mark to set my rip fence, measure depths, etc. Very handy tool. Glenn Drake really thought out the design of this marking gauge, which you won't fully appreciate until you use one for a year or so. Costs more - but after you've used others - worth every penny. |
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"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:
I'm an ol' pencil drafter myself but I surely use a knife or scribe whenever I want a layout mark that will also cut the fibers so I get a clean cut and have a guide for my backsaw or chisel, etc, In fact, one tip I give out for doing mortises with a chisel mortise is to layout the rectangle and do deep knife cuts so the overlapping cuts of the square chisel find their way into the knof cut and you get nice clean long sides. If I need to "engrave", it's time for a 6H pencil or an X-acto knife, either gets about the same results; however, try not to do handwork, leave that to the artisans. I'm a power tool type. Lew |
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Chris Friesen writes:
One thing to watch out for on all the versions with a circular body...make sure they don't roll off your bench! I wish they'd machined one or two flats on the rim to prevent this ... Easy to fix. You have a file? |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:34:23 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks
wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ Nice site Here's what my gauge looks like, except mine is rosewood instead of beech. The removable curved work fence is useful. Regards, Tom Watson http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ |
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forgot the link:
http://pecktool.com/index.php?main_p...du cts_id=291 On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:09:45 -0400, Tom Watson wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:34:23 -0700 (PDT), GarageWoodworks wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ Nice site Here's what my gauge looks like, except mine is rosewood instead of beech. The removable curved work fence is useful. Regards, Tom Watson http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ Regards, Tom Watson http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ |
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On Jul 13, 12:34*am, GarageWoodworks
wrote: I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. http://garagewoodworks.com/gw_blog/ I have had one of these for decades: I am very happy with it...it's an old friend. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00020JNEC |
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Zz Yzx wrote:
I am conducting a poll (very scientific poll) on marking guages. Pin, knife or wheel style. Please vote (ounce). Results to follow. Tite-Mark. -Zz Wheel, Tite-mark. Tanus |
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