Robatoy wrote:
On May 8, 7:44 pm, -MIKE- wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
Apologist KoolAid again... Bush and his thugs did NOTHING to stave off
the crap you're all in...all he did was fatten the pockets of a few he
owed/sold his soul to.
That's bull****. As I already replied to you in this thread...
Well then. You have spoken, we'll all just have to lay down our own
views and collections of FACTS then, eh?
Barney Frank brought down the US economy...and a big chunk of the
world economy as well....check. WhatEVER, -Mike-...
At least I offered some facts. You offered a "whatever."
That's a debate strategy a teen-aged girl would be proud of. :-)



That is assuming there was/is a debate to begin with.
There isn't. there won't be. There is no way I can muster enough
energy to combat that much KoolAid...


I'm not sure how you can call into question public documents available
on the White House website, and public congressional hearings available
on cable TV and youtube.

I'll drink that Koolaid all day long. You just keep smokin that Hopium.
:-)


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On May 8, 9:26*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
On May 8, 7:44 pm, -MIKE- wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
Apologist KoolAid again... Bush and his thugs did NOTHING to stave off
the crap you're all in...all he did was fatten the pockets of a few he
owed/sold his soul to.
That's bull****. *As I already replied to you in this thread...
Well then. You have spoken, we'll all just have to lay down our own
views and collections of FACTS then, eh?
Barney Frank brought down the US economy...and a big chunk of the
world economy as well....check. WhatEVER, -Mike-...
At least I offered some facts. *You offered a "whatever."
That's a debate strategy a teen-aged girl would be proud of. * :-)

That is assuming there was/is a debate to begin with.
There isn't. there won't be. There is no way I can muster enough
energy to combat that much KoolAid...

I'm not sure how you can call into question public documents available
on the White House website, and public congressional hearings available
on cable TV and youtube.

I'll drink that Koolaid all day long. *You just keep smokin that Hopium..
* :-)


Your ways work so well.

-MIKE- wrote:

Robatoy wrote:
Apologist KoolAid again... Bush and his thugs did NOTHING to stave off
the crap you're all in...all he did was fatten the pockets of a few he
owed/sold his soul to.

That's bull****. As I already replied to you in this thread...

It's well documented that the Bush administration sent over 18 warnings
about the eminent Fannie/Freddie collapse over several years, to the
appropriate congressional/senate committees.

The laughable hearings are on youtube in which we see Barney Frank
demonize the alarm ringers as racists and fear mongers, saying "there's
nothing wrong with Fannie/Freddie" over and over again.



Have they put up the video of him now saying that he really thinks some
people shouldn't own homes, that was a Republican idea -- he supported
affordable quality rental housing all along?

If nothing else, you've got to give the little hypocrite credit for
audacity. Of course, with the main stream media being so far in the tank
for these guys, he's pretty much able to tell whatever lies he
wishes, "journalists" aren't going to bother to do any fact-checking


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Mark & Juanita wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:

Robatoy wrote:
Apologist KoolAid again... Bush and his thugs did NOTHING to stave off
the crap you're all in...all he did was fatten the pockets of a few he
owed/sold his soul to.
That's bull****. As I already replied to you in this thread...

It's well documented that the Bush administration sent over 18 warnings
about the eminent Fannie/Freddie collapse over several years, to the
appropriate congressional/senate committees.

The laughable hearings are on youtube in which we see Barney Frank
demonize the alarm ringers as racists and fear mongers, saying "there's
nothing wrong with Fannie/Freddie" over and over again.



Have they put up the video of him now saying that he really thinks some
people shouldn't own homes, that was a Republican idea -- he supported
affordable quality rental housing all along?

If nothing else, you've got to give the little hypocrite credit for
audacity.

Wasn't that one of his books, "The Audacity Of Hype"?
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Robatoy wrote:


Your ways work so well.

They do.

Just go to sleep. And you'll be reborn into an untroubled world.

On May 9, 7:53*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

Your ways work so well.

They do.

Just go to sleep. And you'll be reborn into an untroubled world.

Things seem so much more peaceful since Nov 4.
GOP down to 20% of the population... but I guess extremist right-
wingers will always be around.
But Limbaugh and Gingrich will make everything all better soon.

Looooooooooooosers,

On May 9, 1:50*am, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:

Robatoy wrote:
Apologist KoolAid again... Bush and his thugs did NOTHING to stave off
the crap you're all in...all he did was fatten the pockets of a few he
owed/sold his soul to.
That's bull****. *As I already replied to you in this thread...

It's well documented that the Bush administration sent over 18 warnings
about the eminent Fannie/Freddie collapse over several years, to the
appropriate congressional/senate committees.

The laughable hearings are on youtube in which we see Barney Frank
demonize the alarm ringers as racists and fear mongers, saying "there's
nothing wrong with Fannie/Freddie" over and over again.

* Have they put up the video of him now saying that he really thinks some
people shouldn't own homes, that was a Republican idea -- he supported
affordable quality rental housing all along?

* If nothing else, you've got to give the little hypocrite credit for
audacity.

Wasn't that one of his books, "The Audacity Of Hype"?
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Oh Y A W N ! !

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
Things seem so much more peaceful since Nov 4.
GOP down to 20% of the population... but I guess extremist right-
wingers will always be around.
But Limbaugh and Gingrich will make everything all better soon.

Looooooooooooosers,

That's quite a reality distortion field you have going. I hear that overuse
of Hopium can do that. When you define anyone in the Republican party as
"extreme right wingers", I suppose you could get to 20%. Just remember, 47%
of the US voters voted against the annointed one. And however many extreme
right wingers there are in the US, there are fewer hard core socialists, and
when the population figures out where Obama is heading, they're going to
pull back. Obama knows this, which is why he is moving so aggressively to
nationalize as many private enterprises as possible before the next
election. The majorities he has right now in Congress are going to be the
high point during his administration.

todd

Tim Daneliuk wrote:

Mark & Juanita wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:

Robatoy wrote:
Apologist KoolAid again... Bush and his thugs did NOTHING to stave off
the crap you're all in...all he did was fatten the pockets of a few he
owed/sold his soul to.
That's bull****. As I already replied to you in this thread...

It's well documented that the Bush administration sent over 18 warnings
about the eminent Fannie/Freddie collapse over several years, to the
appropriate congressional/senate committees.

The laughable hearings are on youtube in which we see Barney Frank
demonize the alarm ringers as racists and fear mongers, saying "there's
nothing wrong with Fannie/Freddie" over and over again.



Have they put up the video of him now saying that he really thinks some
people shouldn't own homes, that was a Republican idea -- he supported
affordable quality rental housing all along?

If nothing else, you've got to give the little hypocrite credit for
audacity.

Wasn't that one of his books, "The Audacity Of Hype"?

I think that was a different hypocrite. This one had a boyfriend who ran
a male prostitution ring out of his apartment but claims he knew nothing
about it.



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If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

"HeyBub" wrote:

Wasn't a Bush scheme. The problem had its genesis in the Community
Redevelopment Act of 1977. The law was designed to help low-income families
afford their own homes - a laudable goal, but totally foolish. The program
tooled along without much interest until 1995 when massive changes were
made, including government mandates.

I know this is a popular theory, but it's wrong. Less than 20% of the subprime
mortgages were made by banks subject to the CRA. The rest were made by what is
now called the shadow banking industry. Mortgage brokers making crap loans,
which were sold to investment banks, which packaged them up and sold them to
unsuspecting investors all over the world.

When balloon payment time came, the homeowner simply re-financed the house
and started a new loan. This worked as long as home prices kept climbing.
Eventually, however, everybody who could hear an owl in the dead of night
had a home and the Ponzi scheme to which you referred collapsed.

Too true.

Anyway, it wasn't a Bush scheme. The process was started by the progressive
Pollyannas who felt everybody deserved a hearth of their own and pushed to
dizzying heights of folly by a Democrat congress under a democratic
president. The Bush allies tried several times to reign in this silliness -
or at least exercise oversight - but were unsuccessful.

Nah. It was started by good old fashioned greed. The brokers got paid for
making loans, regardless of quality. The investment banks got paid for
packaging the loans. The investors thought they were getting high returns on
AAA paper. Don't forget the rating agencies that got paid for putting a high
gloss polish on a turd and turning crap into AAA.

Free enterprise at its best.

-- Doug

todd wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
Things seem so much more peaceful since Nov 4.
GOP down to 20% of the population... but I guess extremist right-
wingers will always be around.
But Limbaugh and Gingrich will make everything all better soon.

Looooooooooooosers,

That's quite a reality distortion field you have going. I hear that overuse
of Hopium can do that. When you define anyone in the Republican party as
"extreme right wingers", I suppose you could get to 20%. Just remember, 47%
of the US voters voted against the annointed one. And however many extreme
right wingers there are in the US, there are fewer hard core socialists, and
when the population figures out where Obama is heading, they're going to
pull back. Obama knows this, which is why he is moving so aggressively to
nationalize as many private enterprises as possible before the next
election. The majorities he has right now in Congress are going to be the
high point during his administration.

todd



I sure hope you're right, but I doubt it. The last election proved that
the Sheeple can easily be led to jump from the frying pan into the fire
with a few high minded phrases from the teleprompter and an decent suit
with very little in it. You forget that the half of the population that
pays no Federal tax is quite happy with Marxism as currently practiced
here - it only takes a few knuckleheads that do pay taxes to also vote
that way to install people like our Stealer In Chief into office...

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Tim Daneliuk wrote:
You forget that the half of the population that
pays no Federal tax is quite happy with Marxism as currently practiced
here - it only takes a few knuckleheads that do pay taxes to also vote
that way to install people like our Stealer In Chief into office...


"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money." -Margaret Thatcher.


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"Tim Daneliuk" wrote in message
In short, your government created the culture of theft, held *no one* in-
or
outside of government accountable to this day, and is now busy taking the
money of the people who actually pay taxes and giving to the top- and the
bottom- of the economic scale.

The important thing is that as long as it costs YOU money, (and I mean you
personally) we don't care about anything else.

Upscale wrote:
"Tim Daneliuk" wrote in message
In short, your government created the culture of theft, held *no one* in-
or
outside of government accountable to this day, and is now busy taking the
money of the people who actually pay taxes and giving to the top- and the
bottom- of the economic scale.

The important thing is that as long as it costs YOU money, (and I mean you
personally) we don't care about anything else.



Who's "we"?

On May 9, 3:13*pm, "todd" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

Things seem so much more peaceful since Nov 4.
GOP down to 20% of the population... but I guess extremist right-
wingers will always be around.
But Limbaugh and Gingrich will make everything all better soon.

Looooooooooooosers,

That's quite a reality distortion field you have going. *I hear that overuse
of Hopium can do that. *When you define anyone in the Republican party as
"extreme right wingers", I suppose you could get to 20%. *Just remember, 47%
of the US voters voted against the annointed one. *And however many extreme
right wingers there are in the US, there are fewer hard core socialists, and
when the population figures out where Obama is heading, they're going to
pull back. *Obama knows this, which is why he is moving so aggressively to
nationalize as many private enterprises as possible before the next
election. *The majorities he has right now in Congress are going to be the
high point during his administration.

todd

Let's not forget that in the last but one election under 50% of the
voters went for The Decider, yet the big hoot from Republicans was
"Live with it."

I suggest the same now, with a President who took 53% of the vote.

"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Let's not forget that in the last but one election under 50% of the
voters went for The Decider, yet the big hoot from Republicans was
"Live with it."

I suggest the same now, with a President who took 53% of the vote.

And that's just what the liberals did, right? What an idiotic response. In
fact, we had just the opposite for the past 8 years. Just because the media
wants to give the annointed one a pass doesn't mean that I will.

todd

On May 10, 9:37*am, "todd" wrote:

*Just because the media
wants to give the annointed one a pass doesn't mean that I will.

todd

That will bother him quite a bit.

Charlie Self wrote:
Let's not forget that in the last but one election under 50% of the
voters went for The Decider, yet the big hoot from Republicans was
"Live with it."

I suggest the same now, with a President who took 53% of the vote.

Apples and Oranges.
In the latter, you have one person exaggerating someone's popularity and
another person using the election percentage numbers to accurately
refute it.

In the former, they said "live with it" because people with
constitutional ignorance were moaning that their guy actually won, when
he didn't. It was like someone claiming their team won the World Series
because they scored more runs in the regular season than the other team.
Those aren't the rules of the game and never were, so it's a moot point.


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Jack Stein wrote in news:gu702o$jfe$1
@news.motzarella.org:

I saw several of Obama's ACORN people on TV the other day stating they
registered to vote multiple times. One, 76 times, one, 32 times and
one, too many times to count. The one that said she registered too many
times to count said she didn't mind, she was doing it for the good of
the country.

What station and program, please? I suppose the moderator/producer of the
program was not supportive of ACORN.

I am against voter fraud, but I am in favor of getting people out of
complaining mode and into constructive participation mode. Far less
important as to whether they are left or right. Heck, some of my best
friends are so far right, I look like a commie to them. I am just in favor
of justice, a chance for everyone willing to work, and for responsible
financing of the needs of of everyone according to their contributions to
society. Capitalism is fine with me if it is responsble, and not just
stealing in the Madoff sense. Socialism is fine with me too, as long as it
is NOT mooching and handouts. Please contribute to society ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Han wrote:
Socialism is fine with me too, as long as it
is NOT mooching and handouts. Please contribute to society ...


Socialism is nice in theory. But in practice, it fails.
Once you remove the incentive (winning and getting rich) from the
equation, the people who invent and produce everything, stop doing so.

BTW, we already have the mooching and handouts in this capitalist society.


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Jack Stein wrote:
Charlie Self wrote:

Let's not forget that in the last but one election under 50% of the
voters went for The Decider, yet the big hoot from Republicans was
"Live with it."

I suggest the same now, with a President who took 53% of the vote.

Yabut how many ACORNer's voted 32 or 76 or some other crazy number of
times?

Who knows? Even if the numbers were astronomical, it probably wouldn't
even add up to +or- 1 percent.

The real issue is, an organization like this still getting government
money. If it were a conservative activist group, doing it for the
repubs, you would have 20/20, Dateline, Frontline, and every other
"news" show doing exposés calling for their heads on platters.


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On May 10, 1:53*pm, Jack Stein wrote:


Could be true but you would have to ignore the massive effects of cargo
ships of Obama money headed for ACORN and getting 200% of the people
voting for Obama and his socialist horde. *


And in what way is that different than Bush money being shoveled by
the coffin-full to KBR/Halliburton and other fat-cat oil companies in
order to get campaign contributions so they can skew the vote?
ACORN is nothing compared to what happened in Florida in 2000. There
the vote was skewed by denying people to vote, not messing with the
registration numbers.

BTW, Jack, this is all you're getting from me on this. Have a nice day.

Mark & Juanita wrote:

Of course, with the main stream media being so far in the tank
for these guys, he's pretty much able to tell whatever lies he
wishes, "journalists" aren't going to bother to do any fact-checking

I saw several of Obama's ACORN people on TV the other day stating they
registered to vote multiple times. One, 76 times, one, 32 times and
one, too many times to count. The one that said she registered too many
times to count said she didn't mind, she was doing it for the good of
the country.

ACORN, which has been charged with voter fraud in something like 18
different states has also been earmarked for $53 million, or billion
(hard to keep track these days) in Obama money.

I think Obama and his fellow socialists can already do about anything
they want due to the left wing media propaganda machine as well as the
ability to get more people voting than exist, without raising nary an
eye brow in the mainstream media.

--
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Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org
http://jbstein.com

todd wrote:

That's quite a reality distortion field you have going. I hear that overuse
of Hopium can do that. When you define anyone in the Republican party as
"extreme right wingers", I suppose you could get to 20%. Just remember, 47%
of the US voters voted against the annointed one. And however many extreme
right wingers there are in the US, there are fewer hard core socialists, and
when the population figures out where Obama is heading, they're going to
pull back. Obama knows this, which is why he is moving so aggressively to
nationalize as many private enterprises as possible before the next
election. The majorities he has right now in Congress are going to be the
high point during his administration.

Could be true but you would have to ignore the massive effects of cargo
ships of Obama money headed for ACORN and getting 200% of the people
voting for Obama and his socialist horde. Right now, Obama could
probably get away with not knowing how many states are in the US, or
even going to foreign soil and apologizing for being a US citizen,
assuming he is one, of course.

As it stands, the socialists are in control of voter fraud, the media
and the government. Won't be too long before rich Canucks will have to
slip into Russia for decent medical care, and seems little the once free
individual can do about it.

--
Jack
Using FREE News Server: http://Motzarella.org
http://jbstein.com

Tim Daneliuk wrote:

it only takes a few knuckleheads that do pay taxes to also vote
that way to install people like our Stealer In Chief into office...

I reckon you are unfamiliar with ACORN, voter fraud, and the great
Amerikan socialist movement?

--
Jack
Go Penns!
http://jbstein.com

Charlie Self wrote:

Let's not forget that in the last but one election under 50% of the
voters went for The Decider, yet the big hoot from Republicans was
"Live with it."

I suggest the same now, with a President who took 53% of the vote.

Yabut how many ACORNer's voted 32 or 76 or some other crazy number of times?
--
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http://jbstein.com

Damned fine job, LRod!

You stirred up the regular retards and even added some new names to
the usual suspects list. I've forwarded the list to the state
department for them to begin deportation proceedings.

I think that we should run one of these dumbass-tests every so often
to give us a head count on the enemy.

BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:


http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days














On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:48:52 -0400, Tom Watson
wrote:

Damn LRod, this oughta stir up the dumb asses.

...and they've been so quiet for the last hundred days, or so...




On Fri, 01 May 2009 19:11:40 +0000, LRod wrote:


My nomination for Obama to place on the Supreme Court?

Hillary Clinton.

Just think of the permanent apoplexy that would throw Rush,
Sean, Bill O'R, Ann, and any of your conservative
acquaintances into.

Any old body can be SecState. Heck, get Madeline Albright
back. This is too good an opportunity to miss.

You heard it here first.


Let the sniping begin.
Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

On May 10, 9:37*am, "todd" wrote:
"Charlie Self" wrote in message

...

Let's not forget that in the last but one election under 50% of the
voters went for The Decider, yet the big hoot from Republicans was
"Live with it."
I suggest the same now, with a President who took 53% of the vote.

And that's just what the liberals did, right? *What an idiotic response.. *In
fact, we had just the opposite for the past 8 years. *Just because the media
wants to give the annointed one a pass doesn't mean that I will.

todd

I see where today ex-VP Cheney says he prefers Limbaugh to Powell to
lead the Republicans. That figures. He always did like having a clown
in the driver's seat.

On May 10, 2:15*pm, Tom Watson wrote:
Damned fine job, LRod!

You stirred up the regular retards and even added some new names to
the usual suspects list. *I've forwarded the list to the state
department for them to begin deportation proceedings.

I think that we should run one of these dumbass-tests every so often
to give us a head count on the enemy. *

BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. *I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:

http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days

On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:48:52 -0400, Tom Watson
wrote:



Damn LRod, this oughta stir up the dumb asses.

...and they've been so quiet for the last hundred days, or so...

On Fri, 01 May 2009 19:11:40 +0000, LRod wrote:

My nomination for Obama to place on the Supreme Court?

Hillary Clinton.

Just think of the permanent apoplexy that would throw Rush,
Sean, Bill O'R, Ann, and any of your conservative
acquaintances into.

Any old body can be SecState. Heck, get Madeline Albright
back. This is too good an opportunity to miss.

You heard it here first.

Let the sniping begin.

That sounds almost exactly like Red Stater folks at the country store
down the road. Except for the bit on the aromas. They usually smell so
bad they'd never notice a truckload of cat****.

"Tom Watson" wrote:

BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:

http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days

Shades of Johnny Carson's character, Floyd R Turbo, American.

Damn, I miss his humor.

Lew

Han wrote:

Jack Stein wrote in news:gu702o$jfe$1
@news.motzarella.org:

I saw several of Obama's ACORN people on TV the other day stating they
registered to vote multiple times. One, 76 times, one, 32 times and
one, too many times to count. The one that said she registered too many
times to count said she didn't mind, she was doing it for the good of
the country.

What station and program, please? I suppose the moderator/producer of the
program was not supportive of ACORN.


Throughout the election cycle there were numerous reports (substantiated)
of this behavior. A quick Ask.com search should turn up numerous hits.

I am against voter fraud, but I am in favor of getting people out of
complaining mode and into constructive participation mode. Far less
important as to whether they are left or right. Heck, some of my best
friends are so far right, I look like a commie to them. I am just in
favor of justice, a chance for everyone willing to work, and for
responsible financing of the needs of of everyone according to their
contributions to
society. Capitalism is fine with me if it is responsble, and not just
stealing in the Madoff sense.

Madoff did not represent capitalism but rather fraud. Wouldn't matter
what system he was a part of, his type of personality would look for a way
to prosper at others' expense. In some systems, he would be at the top of
the political ladder, in others, a leech on society.

Socialism is fine with me too, as long as
it
is NOT mooching and handouts.

Socialism will always devolve to that point. As Margret Thatcher
said, "the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other
peoples' money". It is a system that is not long term sustainable. One can
go back to Plymouth Colony and the Mayflower compact. The Pilgrims nearly
starved when they tried a socialist society; it was only after people were
allowed to keep the fruits of their labors that the colony prospered.
Eventually those who are productive and aggressive realize that their labor
is not making any difference to them and benefiting those not as ambitious
and they slack off as well. If there is no reward, there's no reason for
taking risk or being overly ambitious. That's why communist and socialist
states either start or eventually become totalitarian with the state
instituting itself as the state religion. The religion of communism was to
get people to abandon human nature and sacrifice themselves and their labor
for the good of the state.

Please contribute to society ...


The thing is, a free market, with government ensuring that the frauds and
cheats are kept at bay, is one of the most effective and efficient ways for
people to contribute to society.



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On May 10, 5:50*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Tom Watson" wrote:
BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. *I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:

http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days

Shades of Johnny Carson's character, Floyd R Turbo, American.

Damn, I miss his humor.

Lew

As do I. His humour was all natural. A clever sense of the absurd. A
giant. I particularly enjoyed his ability to jab at himself when he
blew a joke.

Tom Watson wrote:

Damned fine job, LRod!

You stirred up the regular retards and even added some new names to
the usual suspects list. I've forwarded the list to the state
department for them to begin deportation proceedings.


Ya know, speaking of retards, I've kind of been wondering about someone
who sang the praises of The One and denigrated those who looked upon Him as
an ivory towered elitist proclaiming that he *wanted* an elitist in office.
That same person then later provided some eloquent, admiring posts about a
particular firearm that he had purchased for himself and his son's use. He
then went on, when questioned about this, to assume a philosopher's
zen-like condescension of: "Ah, grasshopper, not so simple as you
assumed ..." and further went on to sing the praises of the NRA.

Yet, the person and party whom he supported have a record of being the
most anti-gun, anti-second amendment crowd of any administration. The One
himself voted against a law in his home state to absolve homeowners who had
defended themselves with a firearm. He consistently supported anti-gun
legislation and opposed legislation supportive of 2nd amendment rights.
His VP wrote the original scary-looking guns ban and has spoken about
wanting it re-instituted and expanded, His attorney general has already
made rumblings about further assaults on the second amendment, His DHS
secretary and Secretary of State are accusing this country of providing the
weapons to Mexico that are causing so much chaos in the drug wars down
there, distorting statistics regarding firearm tracing to support their
position.

Somehow, though, in this person's mind, the NRA will make this all better
and protect his and his son's rights to keep their firearms. Really kind
of makes one wonder who the real dumbass is.

I think that we should run one of these dumbass-tests every so often
to give us a head count on the enemy.

BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:


http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days














On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:48:52 -0400, Tom Watson
wrote:

Damn LRod, this oughta stir up the dumb asses.

...and they've been so quiet for the last hundred days, or so...




On Fri, 01 May 2009 19:11:40 +0000, LRod wrote:


My nomination for Obama to place on the Supreme Court?

Hillary Clinton.

Just think of the permanent apoplexy that would throw Rush,
Sean, Bill O'R, Ann, and any of your conservative
acquaintances into.

Any old body can be SecState. Heck, get Madeline Albright
back. This is too good an opportunity to miss.

You heard it here first.


Let the sniping begin.
Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

You can not understand The One.

You are a prisoner of The Matrix.




Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

Robatoy wrote:
On May 10, 5:50 pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Tom Watson" wrote:
BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:
http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days
Shades of Johnny Carson's character, Floyd R Turbo, American.

Damn, I miss his humor.

Lew

As do I. His humour was all natural. A clever sense of the absurd. A
giant. I particularly enjoyed his ability to jab at himself when he
blew a joke.
Amen. Some of his funniest moments occurred when his written material
sucked and he had to ad lib a laugh or six.
j4

On May 10, 6:06*pm, Mark & Juanita wrote:
Tom Watson wrote:
Damned fine job, LRod!

You stirred up the regular retards and even added some new names to
the usual suspects list. *I've forwarded the list to the state
department for them to begin deportation proceedings.

* Ya know, speaking of retards, I've kind of been wondering about someone
who sang the praises of The One and denigrated those who looked upon Him as
an ivory towered elitist proclaiming that he *wanted* an elitist in office.
That same person then later provided some eloquent, admiring posts about a
particular firearm that he had purchased for himself and his son's use. *He
then went on, when questioned about this, to assume a philosopher's
zen-like condescension of: "Ah, grasshopper, not so simple as you
assumed ..." and further went on to sing the praises of the NRA.

* Yet, the person and party whom he supported have a record of being the
most anti-gun, anti-second amendment crowd of any administration. *The One
himself voted against a law in his home state to absolve homeowners who had
defended themselves with a firearm. He consistently supported anti-gun
legislation and opposed legislation supportive of 2nd amendment rights.
His VP wrote the original scary-looking guns ban and has spoken about
wanting it re-instituted and expanded, His attorney general has already
made rumblings about further assaults on the second amendment, His DHS
secretary and Secretary of State are accusing this country of providing the
weapons to Mexico that are causing so much chaos in the drug wars down
there, distorting statistics regarding firearm tracing to support their
position. *

* Somehow, though, in this person's mind, the NRA will make this all better
and protect his and his son's rights to keep their firearms. *Really kind
of makes one wonder who the real dumbass is.



I think that we should run one of these dumbass-tests every so often
to give us a head count on the enemy.

BTW - I located where they are getting their information from. *I
thought it was from rust limberger, bland cooter and faux news but
here is the real think tank that their opinions come from:

http://www.redstateupdate.com/video/100-damn-days

On Fri, 01 May 2009 21:48:52 -0400, Tom Watson
wrote:

Damn LRod, this oughta stir up the dumb asses.

...and they've been so quiet for the last hundred days, or so...

On Fri, 01 May 2009 19:11:40 +0000, LRod wrote:

My nomination for Obama to place on the Supreme Court?

Hillary Clinton.

Just think of the permanent apoplexy that would throw Rush,
Sean, Bill O'R, Ann, and any of your conservative
acquaintances into.

Any old body can be SecState. Heck, get Madeline Albright
back. This is too good an opportunity to miss.

You heard it here first.

Let the sniping begin.
Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/
Regards,

Tom Watson
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

The biggest problem with a two-party system like yours, is that in
order to be in agreement with the NRA, you also have to buy into all
that other nut-bar whacko claptrap that comes with a Repuglican
membership.
As hard as it is to believe, it *IS* possible to adopt planks from a
variety of platforms without having to suck the whole salami.
They're called moderates. But nooooooooo, you can't be a moderate, you
have to buy ALL the damned options if all you want is an
ashtray..sunroof, full-sized spare..etc. The idiotic alliances you
have to subscribe to just because the party 'elders' say so is
nonsense and totally unworkable.
Which brings me to Bill O'Reilley's Lufa sponge, Rust Limburger's
(thanks for that one, Tom) viagra-driven trip to The Dominican
Republic's Boy School, etc, etc.

Mark, ol'' boy, it is about that timber the size of a railroad tie in
your eye....

On May 10, 2:15*pm, Tom Watson wrote:
Damned fine job, LRod!

Damned fine job indeed. *taking notes*
LRod's Da Man!

Jack Stein wrote:

Right now, Obama
could probably get away with not knowing how many states are in the
US, or even going to foreign soil and apologizing for being a US
citizen, assuming he is one, of course.


You're probably referring to Obama claiming there were 57 states. In his
defense, there WERE 57 venues that got to vote in the Democratic Convention.
They we

* The 50 states, of course,
* The District of Columbia,
* Guam,
* Puerto Rico,
* The U.S. Virgin Islands,
* The Dutchy of Grand Fenwick,
* Patagonia. and
* Rhodesia.

Chicago residents got to vote twice, and U.S. citizens abroad (unless they
were in the military) voted with their home states.

Han wrote:

I am against voter fraud, but I am in favor of getting people out of
complaining mode and into constructive participation mode. Far less
important as to whether they are left or right. Heck, some of my best
friends are so far right, I look like a commie to them. I am just in
favor of justice, a chance for everyone willing to work, and for
responsible financing of the needs of of everyone according to their
contributions to society. Capitalism is fine with me if it is
responsble, and not just stealing in the Madoff sense. Socialism is
fine with me too, as long as it is NOT mooching and handouts. Please
contribute to society ...

This theory was settled in the 18th century by Adam Smith in "The Wealth of
Nations." He proved that when everyone worked to maximize his own personal
benefit, the nation as a whole benefited more than any other system.

Some people just haven't kept up.

Douglas Johnson wrote:

You mean like the UAW? Have you seen what the new Chrysler contract
does? New hires at half the starting salary, retiree health care
funding with Chrysler stock (how much is that going to worth?),
elimination of the jobs bank, and much more. GM workers are going to
have to do the same.


New-hires at half the previous starting salary is still three times the
minimum wage. Most other retirees rely on Medicare.

Carpenters don't have a "job bank." When it rains, they don't work - and
they don't get paid.

I agree that GM workers are going to have to do the same - work for a
living.