[Jimbo]

In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

[Leon]

"Jimbo" wrote in message
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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim


Construction screws? Are you talking about dry wall screws? If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

[Jimbo]

On Aug 25, 2:01*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Jimbo" wrote in message

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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. *Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

Construction screws? *Are you talking about dry wall screws? *If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

Not drywall screws. Here's a link for construction screws:
http://www.jdcopelandsupply.com/cons...ews-p-156.html

[Fred the Red Shirt]

On Aug 25, 2:01 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Jimbo" wrote in message

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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?
...

Construction screws? Are you talking about dry wall screws? If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

Perhaps he means decking screws. I would expect those to be
more expensive due to the need for corrosion resistance.

--

FF

[Jimbo]

On Aug 25, 2:18*pm, Fred the Red Shirt
wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:01 pm, "Leon" wrote:

"Jimbo" wrote in message

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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. *Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?
...

Construction screws? *Are you talking about dry wall screws? *If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

Perhaps he means decking screws. * *I would expect those to be
more expensive due to the need for corrosion resistance.

--

FF

No, not decking screws, construction screws! Here's another link:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/967794... ction_screw/

[Leon]

"Jimbo" wrote in message
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On Aug 25, 2:01 pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Jimbo" wrote in message

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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

Construction screws? Are you talking about dry wall screws? If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

Not drywall screws. Here's a link for construction screws:
http://www.jdcopelandsupply.com/cons...ews-p-156.html

Ok, construction screws, hummm..
To tell you the truth, screws purchased from mail order almost always are
less expensive and much better quality that what you will find a the Borg.
Having said that, I am not at all surprised that you have probably found a
less expensive and better quality screw on line.
My only concern would be if they are actually a quality screw. You might
also look at Mcfeeleys, while a flat head #8 , 1.5" yellow zinc screw will
run you about $150 for 5,000, their screws are typically pretty high
quality. If you are confident in your source you should be good to go.

[Jimbo]

On Aug 25, 3:49*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Jimbo" wrote in message

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On Aug 25, 2:01 pm, "Leon" wrote:



"Jimbo" wrote in message

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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

Construction screws? Are you talking about dry wall screws? If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

Not drywall screws. *Here's a link for construction screws:http://www.jdcopelandsupply.com/cons...k-package-6500...

Ok, construction screws, hummm..
To tell you the truth, screws purchased from mail order almost always are
less expensive and much better quality that what you will find a the Borg..
Having said that, I am not at all surprised that you have probably found a
less expensive and better quality screw on line.
My only concern would be if they are actually a quality screw. *You might
also look at Mcfeeleys, while a flat head #8 , 1.5" yellow zinc screw will
run you about $150 for 5,000, their screws are typically pretty high
quality. *If you are confident in your source you should be good to go.

My original question was more to do with quality and functionality
than cost. Comparing a Paulin brand construction screw (CS) with a
Paulin brand particle board screw (PBS), the differences are almost
non-existent. The CS is "dichromate plated" (gold) and has "Saw
tooth" threads while the PBs is "plated steel" (silver). Otherwise, I
cant see any difference between the two or from the description on the
packaging.

[Leon]

"Jimbo" wrote in message
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My original question was more to do with quality and functionality
than cost. Comparing a Paulin brand construction screw (CS) with a
Paulin brand particle board screw (PBS), the differences are almost
non-existent. The CS is "dichromate plated" (gold) and has "Saw
tooth" threads while the PBs is "plated steel" (silver). Otherwise, I
cant see any difference between the two or from the description on the
packaging.

Being the same brand, I doubt you would have problems. But to be safe, I'd
give them a call and see what they say or buy a small quantity and test them
out.

[Rusty[_3_]]

Hi Jimbo
If I use screws the zinc plated construction screws are the ones I use.You
can also get them with different coatings one for cedar and one for pressure
treated so they do not bleed a black stain.




"Jimbo" wrote in message
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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

[Chris Friesen]

Jimbo wrote:
In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Particle board screws tend to have thin but wide threads (so they "cut
in" and hold better in fragile materials like PB and MDF). "Standard"
wood screws tend to have narrower threads, but I'm seeing more and more
construction screws that look similar to particle board screws.

I've used construction screws in ply/mdf/PB and solid wood.
Noncommercial use, but it seems to be holding up fine. I like the Spax
and Robertson brands, but haven't tried McFeeleys since I live up in Canada.

Chris

[Jimbo]

On Aug 26, 11:03*am, Chris Friesen wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. *Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Particle board screws tend to have thin but wide threads (so they "cut
in" and hold better in fragile materials like PB and MDF). *"Standard"
wood screws tend to have narrower threads, but I'm seeing more and more
construction screws that look similar to particle board screws.

I've used construction screws in ply/mdf/PB and solid wood.
Noncommercial use, but it seems to be holding up fine. *I like the Spax
and Robertson brands, but haven't tried McFeeleys since I live up in Canada.

Chris

Since I also live in Canada, I always seem to end up with Paulin
screws! Anyway, it seems like construction screws can be used
instead of particle board screws. So really its a matter of selection
and cost.

[Gordon Shumway]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:17:33 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo
wrote:

Construction screws? *Are you talking about dry wall screws? *If so, use dry
wall screws for drywall, they are typically too lite of a gauge for
furniture and they are way too brittle.

Not drywall screws. Here's a link for construction screws:
http://www.jdcopelandsupply.com/cons...ews-p-156.html

Jim,

I don't believe there is an actual "Construction Screw" per se. It is
probably a name that JD Copeland Supply has decided to call these
screws.

With that said I agree with the others that they are probably OK. But
you may want to test them before you commit to full use.

G.S.

[Private]

"Jimbo" wrote in message
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In the past, I've always used particle board screws (coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet case construction. Recently, I've noticed that construction
screws are very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

I suggest you try Confirmat? / Conformat? screws. They are not cheap but
they are large and very strong and do not split or delaminate plywood when
placed in the endgrain. They are best described as a steel threaded dowel.
They need a stepped hole and are easiest to drill with an expensive (brittle
and easily broken by dropping) drill bit. IIRC they are designed for
particle? K3? or MDF? (which I do not use and know nothing about) but IMHO
work great with plywood. I especially like them in combination with
biscuits and often use the screws instead of clamps. If exposed, I use a
plug cutter to fab a solid tapered plug to conceal.

Good luck, YMMV

[Jimbo]

On Aug 26, 8:41*pm, "Private" wrote:
"Jimbo" wrote in message

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In the past, I've always used particle boardscrews(coarse thread,
narrow shift, countersunk head nibbed on underside) for kitchen
cabinet caseconstruction. *Recently, I've noticed thatconstruction
screwsare very similar - even identical - and more widely available.
Is there any significant difference between the two types that I am
missing?

Jim

I suggest you try Confirmat? / Conformat?screws. *They are not cheap but
they are large and very strong and do not split or delaminate plywood when
placed in the endgrain. *They are best described as a steel threaded dowel.
They need a stepped hole and are easiest to drill with an expensive (brittle
and easily broken by dropping) drill bit. *IIRC they are designed for
particle? K3? or MDF? (which I do not use and know nothing about) but IMHO
work great with plywood. *I especially like them in combination with
biscuits and often use thescrewsinstead of clamps. *If exposed, I use a
plug cutter to fab a solid tapered plug to conceal.

Good luck, *YMMV

Confirmat/Conformat (I've seen both spellings) are good but seems way
too expensive for my taste costing at least twice what PB screws cost.