I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

FoggyTown wrote in news:75386d29-1486-403e-b4d0-
:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

Spam and flames are part of Usenet. I try to filter the spam and ignore
the flames. (Some flames are quite entertaining, though.)

Using the free Google Groups doesn't get you much... You could actually
pay for NNTP access and get the ability to use effective filtering... or
move on to your website and quit complaining. As for me, I'm staying and
filtering.

Puckdropper
--
You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have foundwww.woodworking.orgas a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.


I encourage people to fight back by displaying the headers and
sending complaints to abuse@ the domain name of the injection
point of the abusive article. Ironically, Google makes it very easy
to
send complaints to Google, where it would seem they are being
ignored for the present.

There was a massive spam assault on Usenet several years
ago and it was successfully beaten back, though it took threats
of the Usenet Death Penalty (UDP) to do it. The UDP may
have to be revived to get the attention of Google

Don't let the spammers win.

--

FF

I've actually been able to filter out virtually all the junk and only
see (with minor exceptions) valid posts. I use Agent and set up a
filter with all the words that are typically found in a spam header.

Belo is my filter:

cheap or china or rolex or 'low price' or wholesale or adidas or
sneakers or Hilfiger or replica or Hamilton or nowhere.com or boots or
nike or paypal or ladies or burberry or discountor or priority or
viagra or drug or casio or protek or dropshipper or dropship or swatch
or brasize or bra or dentist or penis or money


On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:55:35 -0700 (PDT), FoggyTown
wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

On Apr 6, 2:55*pm, FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. *I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. *I have foundwww.woodworking.orgas a much better
site. *The users are universally friendly. *There are no spammers. *No
flamers. *The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. *Try
it.

FoggyTown

I come here, because some people I respect come here. I come here
because I have a laugh sometimes.
I come here to say that Hillary is pondscum.
All other serious wood-working questions go to woodweb.com

r

Watches? What watches? Shoes? What shoes? etc etc etc

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other.

FoggyTow

I come here to say that Hillary is pondscum.
r

Would it be safe to say that you wouldn't vote for Hillary even if you
could?

Max

On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:55:35 -0700 (PDT), FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

I hate browser based groups...

Spam comes and goes.. Folks that like the group and/or people in this group wait
it out and sort of lay low during floods..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

In article , wrote:
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:55:35 -0700 (PDT), FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

I hate browser based groups...

???

Usenet is Usenet. It has nothing to do with browsers.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.



It seems to me that *you* are the spammer here.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:57:16 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote:

In article , wrote:
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:55:35 -0700 (PDT), FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have found www.woodworking.org as a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

I hate browser based groups...

???

Usenet is Usenet. It has nothing to do with browsers.

Not all groups ARE Usenet, through...

Most are called "forums".. code for "you have to use your browser", as opposed
to Usenet, where you use a newsreader like Agent..

I just don't have the patience to keep repainting browser screens to see what
the replies and stuff are..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

cheap or china or rolex or 'low price' or wholesale or adidas or
sneakers or Hilfiger or replica or Hamilton or nowhere.com or boots or
nike or paypal or ladies or burberry or discountor or priority or
viagra or drug or casio or protek or dropshipper or dropship or swatch
or brasize or bra or dentist or penis or money


I have also added filters for most special characters, or at least more
than three in a row, for example, !!! or ??? get deleted. And I also
delete any messages with .com in them.

But the spammers just keep finding new ways to **** people off.

Wayne

On Apr 6, 6:19 pm, "Max" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...
On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other.
FoggyTow

I come here to say that Hillary is pondscum.
r

Would it be safe to say that you wouldn't vote for Hillary even if you
could?


It's a safe bet that he's missing the point to dividing usenet
up into separate newsgroups.

--

FF

On Apr 7, 11:14 am, mac davis wrote:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:57:16 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , wrote:
On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:55:35 -0700 (PDT), FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have foundwww.woodworking.orgas a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

I hate browser based groups...

???

Usenet is Usenet. It has nothing to do with browsers.

Not all groups ARE Usenet, through...

Most are called "forums".. code for "you have to use your browser", as opposed
to Usenet, where you use a newsreader like Agent..

Newsgroups by definition are propagated with NNTP (Net News
Transmission Protocol, I think).

Browsers use HTTP (Hypertext Transmission Protocol, I think).

HTTP is much more versatile, and so can be used to gate browser
traffic to/from newsgroups, and/or emulate the function
of newsgroups, independently of NNTP, albeit with a lot more
overhead, as NNTP is ASCII-only.

--

FF

On Apr 7, 12:44*pm, Fred the Red Shirt
wrote:
On Apr 6, 6:19 pm, "Max" wrote:

"Robatoy" wrote in message

...
On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other.
FoggyTow

I come here to say that Hillary is pondscum.
r

Would it be safe to say that you wouldn't vote for Hillary even if you
could?

It's a safe bet that he's missing the point to dividing usenet
up into separate newsgroups.


One thing I do not do...and that is to miss much. I play the UseNet
thing like a fiddle.
I know where I am, what I do, and who sees what it is I say.

Not difficult.

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Apr 7, 12:44 pm, Fred the Red Shirt
wrote:
On Apr 6, 6:19 pm, "Max" wrote:

"Robatoy" wrote in message

...
On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other.
FoggyTow

I come here to say that Hillary is pondscum.
r

Would it be safe to say that you wouldn't vote for Hillary even if you
could?

It's a safe bet that he's missing the point to dividing usenet
up into separate newsgroups.


One thing I do not do...and that is to miss much. I play the UseNet
thing like a fiddle.
I know where I am, what I do, and who sees what it is I say.

Not difficult.


I saw what you said and you didn't know it until I confessed.

Max

On Apr 7, 12:06*am, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
wrote:
FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. *I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. *I have foundwww.woodworking.orgas a much better
site. *The users are universally friendly. *There are no spammers. *No
flamers. *The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. *Try
it.

It seems to me that *you* are the spammer here.

--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Too much coffee, Schnurdo.

On Apr 7, 3:18 pm, Robatoy wrote:

One thing I do not do...and that is to miss much. I play the UseNet
thing like a fiddle.
I know where I am, what I do, and who sees what it is I say.

Not difficult.

I have to admit, you seem to find an endless amount of fully committed
guppies that you hook with your political statements. Personally, I
get a snicker out of some of them as I am not really just how feel
about what you post in a rather ambiguous style, or if you just like
stirring things up a bit. Sadly, political stuff far outweighs
responses to woodworking here, so it is a fertile field to plow.

I remember the days, though when one could simply post:

"I really like Home Depot"

"Did you see Norm stain that cherry?"

"Anybody catch what Scott Phillips said about XXX?

"Younger guys are sure stoopid and lazy, not like MY generation" (and
as a sidebar, why all the obsession with boys with zits with the guys
here? That is almost always attached to the Home Depot comment - your
kids never had zits? You never had zits? What does skin rash
measure? Didn't your mothers teach you better than that?)

There are some in recent memory.

But now, all one has to do is post " I like this guy because XXX, or I
hate this guy because XXX" and it will get the most detailed responses
imaginable.

Laws are quoted, sources notated, empirical conclusions (by the author
of course) are cited, historical contexts are put forth, and on an
on. Mostly they are "I am right and screw you", thinly veiled. Not
one mind is ever changed.

Hey, but it is what it is.

I have said this a dozen times, and for old Fog it might just be the
ticket. When you want something out of this group, don't participate,
don't drop by to let everyone know how much you think it sucks, don't
share your insights on what is wrong. Pretty sure everyone here has
noticed what you have.

Just search the archives for your answers. Bet they are there
already.

Me? I'm checking the time on my $175 Audemars Piaget,
and its time to put on my $30 Nikes and go to the baseball game!

Robert

Forums are just as likely to suffer from SPAM and have lots of
security holes in them. It's quite easy to impersonate people and
stuff viruses into the messages. The code is also susceptible to SQL
Injection attacks and URL hijacking. On top of that, there are
numerous bots available to do things like farming e-mail addresses.
All the forum software has to do is store an e-mail address somewhere
and it can be stolen. Finally, there are bots that will grab
username / password combinations from forums and hijack all of your
accounts. For example, they'll try to hit paypal, e-bay, hotmail,
gmail, yahoo and every bank where they can automate an attack. This
is one of the huge drawbacks to using a popular forum package. Once
an attack is known it can be exploited on thousands of different
forums. Usenet has been around for a long time for a reason. Just
filter and move on....

For the curious, DAGS on:

forum exploit
forum sql injection
forum vulnerability

On Apr 7, 6:43 pm, "
wrote:
On Apr 7, 3:18 pm, Robatoy wrote:

One thing I do not do...and that is to miss much. I play the UseNet
thing like a fiddle.
I know where I am, what I do, and who sees what it is I say.

Not difficult.

I have to admit, you seem to find an endless amount of fully committed
guppies that you hook with your political statements. Personally, I
get a snicker out of some of them as I am not really just how feel
about what you post in a rather ambiguous style, or if you just like
stirring things up a bit. Sadly, political stuff far outweighs
responses to woodworking here, so it is a fertile field to plow.

I find it hard to see the keyboard... *wipes tears of laughter*.

Guilty. * thrusts hands out willing to accept handcuffs*

Geez, Robert... must woodworking be a curse? I know you find chuckles
in commentaries here.
Not just mine, but Swing dangles a few guppies as well. Oh, sure, he
hides behind his wisdom and goatee, but seldom a day goes by where
SOMEbody tickles the senses of other wreckers. The political thing is
a by-product of daily convos.

We all hang out here working towards a better tomorrow. Be it a finer
woodworking product or a better understanding of life in general, but
we slug on ...forward.

I'm not going to apologise for having an active interest in politics,
here in Canuckistan or your side of the abyss. I have mentioned many
times before that the bulk of my family and friends are US based.
Yes, I'm critical of those who **** with other people's freedoms.
Shouldn't I be?

But you are right in one respect, Robert. I do tend to drift away from
woodworking sometimes. That is because life is what happens while we
make other plans. (Lennon)

I am hoping that one day, I will be able to host many who attend here,
at my home, for a weekend, or more, for BBQ and laughs. I have lots of
rooms to accommodate many. We even have a landing strip for those who
need it. Seriously. You don't build communities like this and
disregard them. I consider it a blessing.


Hey, but it is what it is.

Yup. I love it.



Just search the archives for your answers. Bet they are there
already.

Me? I'm checking the time on my $175 Audemars Piaget,

My dear friend Mickey Newbury, who has since passed on, had a real
Patek Philippe. He was some proud of that. Kenny Rogers bought that
for him as a thank you for writing "Just Dropped In To See What
Condition My Condition Was In". Last thing Mickey worked on was trying
to work a phrase into a song that included the lyrics " busting rocks
for getting stoned"

but I digress.


and its time to put on my $30 Nikes and go to the baseball game!

Have fun, you!

"Robatoy" wrote

My dear friend Mickey Newbury, who has since passed on,

" ... Growing up came quietly
In the arms of Mabel Joy ..."

.... Jezzzuss, that brings back memories!

(Hell being a shell, with much of the juice left behind ... )

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 3/27/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On Apr 7, 8:54*pm, "Swingman" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote

My dear friend Mickey Newbury, who has since passed on,

" ... Growing up came quietly
In the arms of Mabel Joy ..."

... Jezzzuss, that brings back memories!

(Hell being a shell, with much of the juice left behind ... )

--www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 3/27/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)

One word: Trilogy.

Robatoy wrote:

We all hang out here working towards a better tomorrow. Be it a finer
woodworking product or a better understanding of life in general, but
we slug on ...forward.

Not sure how we'd all get by without your philosophical guidance.

On Apr 7, 9:08*pm, Doug Winterburn wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
We all hang out here working towards a better tomorrow. Be it a finer
woodworking product or a better understanding of life in general, but
we slug on ...forward.

Not sure how we'd all get by without your philosophical guidance.

I hold betwixt my fore-finger and thumb.
A grain of salt.

Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 7, 9:08 pm, Doug Winterburn wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
We all hang out here working towards a better tomorrow. Be it a finer
woodworking product or a better understanding of life in general, but
we slug on ...forward.
Not sure how we'd all get by without your philosophical guidance.

I hold betwixt my fore-finger and thumb.
A grain of salt.

We believe: http://www.celticseasalt.com/Newsletter_W6.cfm

" wrote in news:e05b4573-
:

*snip*


I have to admit, you seem to find an endless amount of fully committed
guppies that you hook with your political statements. Personally, I
get a snicker out of some of them as I am not really just how feel
about what you post in a rather ambiguous style, or if you just like
stirring things up a bit. Sadly, political stuff far outweighs
responses to woodworking here, so it is a fertile field to plow.


*snip*

I hereby propose the creation of the newsgroup rec.woodworking.politics
j/k :-)

Puckdropper
--
You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

On Apr 7, 10:10*pm, Puckdropper wrote:
" wrote in news:e05b4573-
:

*snip*



I have to admit, you seem to find an endless amount of fully committed
guppies that you hook with your political statements. *Personally, I
get a snicker out of some of them as I am not really just how feel
about what you post in a rather ambiguous style, or if you just like
stirring things up a bit. *Sadly, political stuff far outweighs
responses to woodworking here, so it is a fertile field to plow.

*snip*

I hereby propose the creation of the newsgroup rec.woodworking.politics
j/k :-)

Puckdropper
--
You can only do so much with caulk, cardboard, and duct tape.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

Oh, for **** sakes, Puck. I try to be as helpful as I can when the
questions are relevant. Other than that, I have a little fun now and
again. Shoot me already.
More and more do I find that a sense of humour around here is as hard
to find as a grounding wire for a dust collector.....wait....

On Apr 7, 8:22 pm, Robatoy wrote:

Oh, for **** sakes, Puck. I try to be as helpful as I can when the
questions are relevant. Other than that, I have a little fun now and
again. Shoot me already.

Uh oh... no hook needed there.

You obviously missed the smiley on Puck's post.

He was yankin' your chain.

Robert

Puckdropper wrote:

" wrote in news:e05b4573-
:

*snip*


I have to admit, you seem to find an endless amount of fully committed
guppies that you hook with your political statements. Personally, I
get a snicker out of some of them as I am not really just how feel
about what you post in a rather ambiguous style, or if you just like
stirring things up a bit. Sadly, political stuff far outweighs
responses to woodworking here, so it is a fertile field to plow.


*snip*

I hereby propose the creation of the newsgroup rec.woodworking.politics
j/k :-)

I'll see your "split the newsgroup" post and raise you a "metric sucks"
post. ;-)






--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

hum...... what to do what to do, stay here and get a workout, you know
laugh your ab's off, or go elsewhere, where you have to put on a tux
just to get in? hum.... what to do what to do. think I'll go have ein
berliner and figure.
ross

On Apr 8, 12:16*am, "
wrote:
On Apr 7, 8:22 pm, Robatoy wrote:

Oh, for **** sakes, Puck. I try to be as helpful as I can when the
questions are relevant. Other than that, I have a little fun now and
again. Shoot me already.

Uh oh... no hook needed there.

You obviously missed the smiley on Puck's post.

He was yankin' your chain.

Robert

Actually, I also missed MY smiley... here's the fix:

Oh, for **** sakes, Puck. I try to be as helpful as I can when the
questions are relevant. Other than that, I have a little fun now and
again. Shoot me already. :-)

Belo is my filter:

cheap or china or rolex or 'low price' or wholesale or adidas or
sneakers or Hilfiger or replica or Hamilton or nowhere.com or boots or
nike or paypal or ladies or burberry or discountor or priority or
viagra or drug or casio or protek or dropshipper or dropship or swatch
or brasize or bra or dentist or penis or money

My God, you filter out penis!

That's tough.

On Apr 8, 9:43*am, Hoosierpopi wrote:
Belo is my filter:

cheap or china or rolex or 'low price' or wholesale or adidas or
sneakers or Hilfiger or replica or Hamilton or nowhere.com or boots or
nike or paypal or ladies or burberry or discountor or priority or
viagra or drug or casio or protek or dropshipper or dropship or swatch
or brasize or bra or dentist or penis or money

My God, you filter out penis!

That's tough.

Penis mightier than the sword!

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 9:43 am, Hoosierpopi wrote:
Belo is my filter:

cheap or china or rolex or 'low price' or wholesale or adidas or
sneakers or Hilfiger or replica or Hamilton or nowhere.com or boots or
nike or paypal or ladies or burberry or discountor or priority or
viagra or drug or casio or protek or dropshipper or dropship or swatch
or brasize or bra or dentist or penis or money

My God, you filter out penis!

That's tough.

Penis mightier than the sword!

Somewhere, right now, your grade school english teacher is spinning in her
grave.

On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. I have foundwww.woodworking.orgas a much better
site. The users are universally friendly. There are no spammers. No
flamers. The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. Try
it.

FoggyTown

I get a digest version daily "Today's most active topics:"

I miss most of the junk - only four "most active topics" today (for
instance).

Essentially, I let the guys who are most active "filter" what I read
as they respond to one post or another.

So, for me, the best approach to SPAM and such is for everyone to
ignore it. Then, it will never appear on the most active list and I
will never even know it was posted.

"Did you see Norm stain that cherry?"

Now, that's a good one!

wrote in message
...


"Younger guys are sure stoopid and lazy, not like MY generation" (and
as a sidebar, why all the obsession with boys with zits with the guys
here? That is almost always attached to the Home Depot comment - your
kids never had zits? You never had zits? What does skin rash
measure? Didn't your mothers teach you better than that?)


I love this part Robert. It's always been one of my favorites when the BORG
rants start up. About the only place you really find those kids with the
zits at the HD or Lowes, is in the parking lot, loading cars or pushing
carts. The guys on the floor are typically middle aged and generally
somewhat knowledgeable. You're actually more likely to find those zits on
the floor at the local mom and pop that is so favored by the guys who just
seem to hate the BORGs.

--

-Mike-

On Apr 8, 9:49*am, "Lee Michaels" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 9:43 am, Hoosierpopi wrote:

Belo is my filter:

cheap or china or rolex or 'low price' or wholesale or adidas or
sneakers or Hilfiger or replica or Hamilton or nowhere.com or boots or
nike or paypal or ladies or burberry or discountor or priority or
viagra or drug or casio or protek or dropshipper or dropship or swatch
or brasize or bra or dentist or penis or money

My God, you filter out penis!

That's tough.

Penis mightier than the sword!

Somewhere, right now, your grade school english teacher is spinning in her
grave.

You are right.. it should have been: the penis mightier than the sword.

On Apr 6, 2:55*pm, FoggyTown wrote:
I no longer come here much. *I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. *I have foundwww.woodworking.orgas a much better
site. *The users are universally friendly. *There are no spammers. *No
flamers. *The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. *Try
it.

FoggyTown

No it isn't

On Apr 8, 12:16*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 6, 2:55*pm, FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. *I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. *I have foundwww.woodworking.orgasa much better
site. *The users are universally friendly. *There are no spammers. *No
flamers. *The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. *Try
it.

FoggyTown

No it isn't

Yes it is.

On Apr 8, 12:17*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Apr 8, 12:16*pm, Robatoy wrote:

On Apr 6, 2:55*pm, FoggyTown wrote:

I no longer come here much. *I leave the spammers to convert (or sell
to) each other. *I have foundwww.woodworking.orgasamuch better
site. *The users are universally friendly. *There are no spammers. *No
flamers. *The degree of knowledge and information is wonderful. *Try
it.

FoggyTown

No it isn't

Yes it is.

It is not, you toffee-nosed, cloth-eared pile of lark's vomit!