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Jerry McG
 
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No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin
margin over any generic Democrat.

Keep thinkuing like that, Mr. Lefty, you "Tax&Spend-ocrats" are becoming so
irrelevant all you'll be able to do come this time next year is get together
with your Socialist buddies at the local leftist "whine & cheeze prty" and
cry.

Oh, we all assume you'll still be in denial and will concoct some other
sinister reason why you lost, like the new computerized voting mcahiunes
were too difficult for those rich Palm Beach millionaires to figure out!

You people are really fun to listen to, however, perhaps you can take it on
the road!

*Significant* majority? You're fooling yourself.





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"Joe Myers" wrote in message
. com...
[ . . . ]

No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin

margin
over any generic Democrat.


Bush hasn't even started to campaign yet.

Tell us all about it in November 2004.


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Jerry McG
 
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No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin
margin over any generic Democrat.

Bush hasn't even started to campaign yet. Tell us all about it in November

2004.

This Democrat primary campaign is sort of like a boxing challenger jumping
up and down, shouting, shadow boxing, flexing his muscles (telegraphing to
the champ all of his moves) running around the ring to loud cheers from his
biased fans......a year before the fight starts! But then, as he slowly
steps into the ring, the champ will grin and go "heh, heh, heh..." It'll be
over in the first round!

But, you don't have to wait until November to enjoy all the fun. Bush slyly
began running an ad this week in Iowa that proclaims the truth about all the
lying Demo-cowards...Iowa folks ain't got much of a choice among those 9
weasels, do they? (At least Graham had sense enough to quit the street gang
before they all get busted!)


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Joe Myers wrote:
"Giftzwerg" wrote


Perhaps such significant majorities of Americans agree with
conservatives because conservative ideas are so far Out Of The
Mainstream?



Okay, now you're hallucinating.

"*Significant* majority," my ass.

Even if the SCOTUS-aborted Florida recount had gone the way right-wing
sycophants allege, Bush's margin of victory was under 1,000 votes, with more
than five-thousand butterfly ballot-voting Jewish Senior Citizens
inexplicably voting for Pat Buchanan. Nationwide, Bush lost the popular
election by half a million votes and after squeaking out the slimmest
possible majority from the GOP-packed Supreme Court, took office with a
margin of 5 Electoral College votes.

In 2002, the conservative-dominated mainstream media blared out a Republican
"landslide" in Congressional elections, it conveniently omitted the fact
that fewer than 5,000 votes, distributed differently in selected races,
would have resulted in Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress.

After 9/11, the President enjoyed support from 86% of Americans and
universal approval from all but the most radical Islamic states of the
world. Since then, arrogance, lies, and incompetence have turned that
support into alienation of traditional allies in the UN, NATO, and Asia. By
the thinnest of margins, the Republican Congress has turned a $3 trillion
surplus into a $4 trillion deficit while lining the pockets of the super
rich and war profiteers such as Halliburton.

The party that touts "traditional family values" has levied a huge deficit
burden on their children and grandchildren and committed 100,000 sons and
daughters to bear arms in Iraq for as long as there is terrorism in the
world.

No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin margin
over any generic Democrat.

*Significant* majority? You're fooling yourself.




Great post!


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trotsky
 
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Jerry McG wrote:
No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin


margin over any generic Democrat.

Bush hasn't even started to campaign yet. Tell us all about it in November


2004.

This Democrat primary campaign is sort of like a boxing challenger jumping
up and down, shouting, shadow boxing, flexing his muscles (telegraphing to
the champ all of his moves) running around the ring to loud cheers from his
biased fans......a year before the fight starts! But then, as he slowly
steps into the ring, the champ will grin and go "heh, heh, heh..." It'll be
over in the first round!

But, you don't have to wait until November to enjoy all the fun. Bush slyly
began running an ad this week in Iowa



Oh, so you mean he *has* started to campaign already. What you're
really saying here is that "NGH" is just misinformed.



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Giftzwerg
 
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In article ,
says...

Perhaps such significant majorities of Americans agree with
conservatives because conservative ideas are so far Out Of The
Mainstream?


Okay, now you're hallucinating.

[...]
No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin margin
over any generic Democrat.

*Significant* majority? You're fooling yourself.


Being as we're unfamiliar with "sarcasm," I will explain the above
remark:

Democrats, and their lefty-media allies, pathologically describe
conservative ideas (and people) as "out of the mainstream," despite the
fact that they define "the mainstream" as the sociopolitical outlook of
a San Francisco Democrat. For example, the *real* American mainstream
is 60% *against* gay marriage[1] - yet a conservative who opposes this
decidedly *minority* pro-gay-marriage viewpoint is an "extremist"
according to Tom Daschle and the knee-jerkers in the national media.

The point is that even if conservatives hold only your "razor-thin
margin" on Issue X, they cannot be called "out of the mainstream."
Either there *is* no mainstream, or the conservatives are swimming down
the center of it.

Thanks for proving the point.

[1] I happen to support gay marriage, but no matter.

--
Giftzwerg
***
"The British left intermittently erupts like a pustule upon
the buttock of a rather good country. Seventy years ago it
opposed mobilisation against Adolf Hitler and worshipped
the other genocide, Josef Stalin. It has marched for Mao,
Ho Chi Minh, Khrushchev, Brezhnev and Andropov. It has
slobbered over Ceausescu and Mugabe. It has demonstrated
against everything and everyone American for a century.
Broadly speaking, it hates [America] first, [Britain] second."
- Frederick Forsyth
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"Giftzwerg" wrote in message
...
In article ,
ks says...

No wonder public opinion polls show Bush can garner only a razor-thin

margin
over any generic Democrat.


Bush hasn't even started to campaign yet.

Tell us all about it in November 2004.


His original point is wretchedly stupid, anyhow. Note his use of
"generic Democrat." Who does the person polled fill in as a "generic
Democrat?"


I think there are still plenty of "yellow dog" Democrats (who would "vote
fer a yaller dawg ez long ez it was a Demmycrat"). I've known quite a few,
and for such folk I suppose any and all Democrats are more or less generic.



Andrew Jackson? Harry Truman? FDR?

[****, *I'd* vote for any of these three against Bush - in a heartbeat.]


Well, I'd go with you as far as Jackson, probably. (I don't remember who he
ran against.) HST, I don't think so. FDR, definitely not.

Not that I think Bush is a great president. Certainly he seems to fall well
short of Ronald Reagan, and I cannot imagine him ever doing anything that
would raise him to that stature. But he's an honest, decent guy doing a
generally good job in really tough circumstances, and is showing backbone
where that is the quality needed. We can thank our lucky stars we didn't get
shudder the Sore Loserman duo.



Trouble is, the Democrats cannot run a hypothetical, perfect candidate
against Bush; they're stuck with Howdy Dean. How does he match up? Ten
points down - a *year* before the election, in the middle of a war, with
a shaky economy only starting to recover, and after about a year of
relentlessly hammering away against the president - before the average
voter has seen a single Bush response.

Ooooouch.


Yes. Actually there are some things I like about Dean, and if forced (with a
gun to my head) to pick one of that Democratic gaggle he's the one I'd pick.
I'd even give Sufferin' Joe Lieberman the job he didn't get last time. The
rest of them are worse than worthless, to put it mildly.

Latest word is that GDP grew 8.2% in the third quarter, so there seems
little doubt that the economy has turned the corner. Glum news for the
Democrats, who surely have been hoping for a worsening economy. Now they'll
just have to pray for some other national disaster to come along that they
can blame on W.

Neil


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Roe v Wade was made on the basis of the evidence presented. It was years
ago and I have yet to see a republican make a claim that the court did not
follow the law and the constitution. Its why some of them want a
constitutional amendment. (There is a better solution).

On sodomy laws, didn't they follow the constitution? Didn't they say if
it was okay for a married couple to do whatever behind closed doors, then
why should two queers be treated differently.

Now for that better solution on Roe v Wade; Lets have a national vote on
the issue -- only you have to put your name on the ballot. If those in
favor of out lawing abortion win -- we outlaw it. Only they become the
ones who are then responsible for all the children they wanted to be born.
E.g., they collectively and personally get billed for the collective cost
of child support for those kids.

Every time I've suggested this in person, the anti-abortion fanatics get
upset, turn red and wander away or run away -- like they always do when
challenged to be responsible for something -- instead of just judging
others.


Yeah, we could have done that in trying to decide whether to make slavery
illegal, too. Maybe we can vote on whether murder should be legalized and
anyone who votes to keep it illegal should have to support anyone who claims
they would have been murdered absent the law. What a silly concept.

Either abortion is the murder of a child or it is the disposal of some excess
body tissue. If you believe that it is the former, then how can you not do
everything you can to stop it. If you believe that it is the latter, then how
can you possibly allow the government to outlaw it. Doesn't seem to be a lot of
room for middle ground here for anyone who isn't hypocritical in the extreme.
Thus it goes on.

Dave Hall
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Rafe B.
 
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 18:08:34 GMT, "NJH" wrote:


[ the shrub]

But he's an honest, decent guy doing a
generally good job in really tough circumstances,



ROFLMAO.

Bush: Millions of Whoppers Served.

Honesty and decency are totally absent
from the man. Ask John McCain what he
thinks of W's honesty and decency.

Bush used every dirty trick in the book
to discredit McCain during the primaries.

Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a
divider" and as a result of his behavior
we have the most glaringly polarized US
population that I've seen in my lifetime.

Hell, he dodged the draft by jumping into
the National Guard (using family connections,
natch) and then went AWOL from the Guard.

Bush has raised lying and cronyism to
dizzying new heights. Makes Clinton look
like a total piker.

Oh, yeah, and that's after the Repugs
spent at least $100 Million of US taxpayer
funds to dig up the dirt on slick Willy.


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David Hall
 
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Either abortion is the murder of a child or it is the disposal of some
excess
body tissue. If you believe that it is the former, then how can you not do
everything you can to stop it. If you believe that it is the latter, then

how
can you possibly allow the government to outlaw it. Doesn't seem to be a

lot of
room for middle ground here for anyone who isn't hypocritical in the

extreme.

Actually, there's lots of middle ground. Either way, it's a belief.
That's the key word. A belief is a religious issue. The government has
no business regulating a religious issue. Therefore the decision should
be left up to the prospective parents.

Yes I know, that's entirely too logical to satisfy the "true believers".

So, apparently your "belief" that you are a human being that has the right to
live is simply a "religious issue" and therefore the gov't has no business
protecting your life. What a bunch of bullsomething. If you believe that the
someting in the woman is a living human life, then you are morally bound to
provide it societal protection like any other human life. If you believe that
it is simply a clump of waste cells, then the "owner" has the right to do with
it as she wants. All laws and all societal rules are based on "beliefs" so I
guess we are all religious in your mind. On the other hand, I guess you might
not believe that you are reading this (but if you do then I guess it must be a
religious experience for you)

Dave Hall


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"Rafe B." wrote in message
...
[ . . . ]

Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a
divider" and as a result of his behavior
we have the most glaringly polarized US
population that I've seen in my lifetime.


It has apparently escaped your notice that all that polarization was started
by the Clinton presidency, the worst, most corrupt and reprehensible
administration in the nation's history as far as I know. Before Clinton,
Democrats were reasonably civil for the most part even if they were
shameless demagogues. Clinton's excesses, along with his humiliating loss of
Congress is 1994 (establishing what has now been nearly a decade of
Republican Senate and House), has clearly enraged all the leftist-liberals
to the point that they simply cannot get over it. (Hey, how about that
famous Clintonista phrase "Time to move on"? Not so popular anymore among
the leftist gang, evidently.)

Bush has bent over backwards to accommodate the Democrats--he's bent too far
on some issues, many of us think--and he's sincerely tried to be a uniter.
The *problem* is, trying to get along well with Democrats is somewhat like
trying to get along well with rattlesnakes.

Neil


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Mark & Juanita
 
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In article ,
ks says...

"Rafe B." wrote in message
...
[ . . . ]

Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a
divider" and as a result of his behavior
we have the most glaringly polarized US
population that I've seen in my lifetime.


It has apparently escaped your notice that all that polarization was started
by the Clinton presidency, the worst, most corrupt and reprehensible
administration in the nation's history as far as I know. Before Clinton,
Democrats were reasonably civil for the most part even if they were
shameless demagogues.


Probably partially true, but I think you are forgetting Jim Wright,
LBJ, and Daschle's Mentor, (whose name escapes me at the moment).

Clinton's excesses, along with his humiliating loss of
Congress is 1994 (establishing what has now been nearly a decade of
Republican Senate and House), has clearly enraged all the leftist-liberals
to the point that they simply cannot get over it. (Hey, how about that
famous Clintonista phrase "Time to move on"? Not so popular anymore among
the leftist gang, evidently.)

Bush has bent over backwards to accommodate the Democrats--he's bent too far
on some issues, many of us think--and he's sincerely tried to be a uniter.


Yep, Steel tarriffs, letting Teddy Kennedy write the education bill,
this $400B (lowballed) socialist medicare bill, and any of a host of
other social issues where W made Clinton look like a piker regarding
socialist policies

The *problem* is, trying to get along well with Democrats is somewhat like
trying to get along well with rattlesnakes.

Neil



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trotsky
 
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NJH wrote:
"Rafe B." wrote in message
...
[ . . . ]

Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a
divider" and as a result of his behavior
we have the most glaringly polarized US
population that I've seen in my lifetime.



It has apparently escaped your notice that all that polarization was started
by the Clinton presidency, the worst, most corrupt and reprehensible
administration in the nation's history as far as I know.



Because of the cigars, you mean?



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NJH
 
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"trotsky" wrote in message
hlink.net...
NJH wrote:
"Rafe B." wrote in message
...
[ . . . ]

Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a
divider" and as a result of his behavior
we have the most glaringly polarized US
population that I've seen in my lifetime.



It has apparently escaped your notice that all that polarization was

started
by the Clinton presidency, the worst, most corrupt and reprehensible
administration in the nation's history as far as I know.



Because of the cigars, you mean?


No, I was thinking more of Travelgate, Filegate, Chinagate, etc., and all
the lying and perjury, subornation of perjury, abuse of power, stonewalling,
associates fleeing the country to avoid indictment or prosecution . . . that
sort of thing.

What Bubba did with his cigars is of little interest except to his
supporters, who want to keep reciting the mantra, "It was all just about
sex!"


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trotsky
 
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NJH wrote:
"trotsky" wrote in message
hlink.net...

NJH wrote:

"Rafe B." wrote in message
...
[ . . . ]


Bush promised to be "a uniter, not a
divider" and as a result of his behavior
we have the most glaringly polarized US
population that I've seen in my lifetime.


It has apparently escaped your notice that all that polarization was


started

by the Clinton presidency, the worst, most corrupt and reprehensible
administration in the nation's history as far as I know.



Because of the cigars, you mean?



No, I was thinking more of Travelgate, Filegate, Chinagate, etc., and all
the lying and perjury, subornation of perjury, abuse of power, stonewalling,
associates fleeing the country to avoid indictment or prosecution . . . that
sort of thing.

What Bubba did with his cigars is of little interest except to his
supporters, who want to keep reciting the mantra, "It was all just about
sex!"




I see your point. What I don't see is why Ken Lay isn't in prison.
What I feel is that the Bush administration is the biggest helper of
white collar crime in the history of the United States, and *that*
should be an impeachable offense.


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Rafe B.
 
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:06:24 GMT, "NJH" wrote:


Bush has bent over backwards to accommodate the Democrats--he's bent too far
on some issues, many of us think--and he's sincerely tried to be a uniter.
The *problem* is, trying to get along well with Democrats is somewhat like
trying to get along well with rattlesnakes.



He's bent over backwards and showed us his
naked backside. And it aint a pretty sight.


rafe b.
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Jerry McG
 
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I see your point. What I don't see is why Ken Lay isn't in prison.

And, what di Mr' Lay do that was illegal?

What I feel is that the Bush administration is the biggest helper of

white collar crime in the history of the United States, and *that* should
be an impeachable offense.

Virtually ALL of the corporate crime being uncovered (Enron, Worldcom,
Global Crossing, Tyco) occured under the Inspector Clouseau-like Clinton
administration. Just what connection, other than a Holiday card exchange,
can be attributed to the Bush II administration? That's right NONE! More
leftist hypocrisy that's completely transparent.

How about Clinton's Mark Rich "pardon for cash" as an example of corruption
par-excellence, eh, lefty? You people are not only shallow, you have the
memories of a gnat.


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Rafe B.
 
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:48:52 -0700, "Jerry McG"
wrote:


Virtually ALL of the corporate crime being uncovered (Enron, Worldcom,
Global Crossing, Tyco) occured under the Inspector Clouseau-like Clinton
administration. Just what connection, other than a Holiday card exchange,
can be attributed to the Bush II administration? That's right NONE! More
leftist hypocrisy that's completely transparent.



Massive connections between the Bush
campaign and Enron management. More
than a few ex-Enron execs now in the Bush
admin (eg., Thomas White, Hal Lindsey,
Robert Zoellick...)

Refusal to intervene when it became obvious
that Enron and others like them (eg Williams
Energy) were manipulating energy transmission
patterns with the express purpose of bilking
the state of California. Most of this took place
during shrub's term.

Refusal to enforce meaningful punishment from
these same companies when the scam was
fully exposed.

Massive connections between Dick Cheney
and a major league defense contractor, named
Halliburton -- which, after being given no-bid
contracts to "rebuild" Iraq, proceeded to
overcharge the US government for gasoline
"imported" into Iraq. Similar shady dealings
with Bechtel, Fluor, and a host of other major
"oil patch" industries who collectiveley gave
many millions to the the Bush campaign, and
indeed to previous republican administrations
dating back to Reagan's term or beyond.

Connections between Richard Perle -- senior
level Pentagon advisor -- and Global Crossing,
and his attempts to influence US telecom contracts
in China. (An incident which led to Perle's resignation/
dismissal as the head of the Defense Advisory board.)

Connections between Perle and certain Arab
millionaires, to sell shares and interests in Perle's
"anti-terrorism" enterprises.

Paul Wolfowitz, Perle's neocon sidekick, sits
on the board of directors of Northrop Grumman,
another major defense contractor.

Michael Powell, (Colin's son) as head of the FCC,
attempting to concentrate control of US media into
ever-fewer hands -- for which he was slapped down
by congress (though a "39% compromise" is now
being aired.)

Bush's cabinet is stuffed with corporate lobbyists
who are on record expressing outright hostility to the
basic mission of the agencies they head -- eg. Gail
Norton, Spencer Abraham, et. al.

On matters affecting the environment or the quality
of our air or water, count on bush and his admin to
favor polluters and exploiters at every opportunity.
On matters of worker's rights or workplace safety,
count on the bushies to favor the employers every
time. On matters of tax policy, count on the bushies
to favor the wealthy, every time. On matters of
civil rights, count on the bushies to favor secrecy
and executive power every time.

The list goes on and on. These people have
no shame. And right wingers seem to think it's
all just fine, or are ignorant of what their hero is
up to.


rafe b.
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trotsky
 
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Jerry McG wrote:
I see your point. What I don't see is why Ken Lay isn't in prison.



And, what di Mr' Lay do that was illegal?



Oh, right, I'd almost forgotten about this mentality. Just because the
Reagan administration was engaged in highly illegal activities selling
arms for Contras doesn't mean that the Commander Chief knew anything
about something that was going on right under his nose. Naturally,
nobody in their right mind believes this, but we nail the patsy anyway.



What I feel is that the Bush administration is the biggest helper of


white collar crime in the history of the United States, and *that* should
be an impeachable offense.

Virtually ALL of the corporate crime being uncovered (Enron, Worldcom,
Global Crossing, Tyco) occured under the Inspector Clouseau-like Clinton
administration. Just what connection, other than a Holiday card exchange,
can be attributed to the Bush II administration? That's right NONE! More
leftist hypocrisy that's completely transparent.

How about Clinton's Mark Rich "pardon for cash" as an example of corruption
par-excellence, eh, lefty? You people are not only shallow, you have the
memories of a gnat.



Uh, dude, if Bush had half the people sniffing up his ass the way
Clinton had they would have locked him up and thrown away every key in
existence. The fix is on.


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Jerry McG
 
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"Rafe B." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:48:52 -0700, "Jerry McG"
wrote:


Virtually ALL of the corporate crime being uncovered (Enron, Worldcom,
Global Crossing, Tyco) occured under the Inspector Clouseau-like Clinton
administration. Just what connection, other than a Holiday card exchange,
can be attributed to the Bush II administration? That's right NONE! More
leftist hypocrisy that's completely transparent.



Massive connections between the Bush
campaign and Enron management. More
than a few ex-Enron execs now in the Bush
admin (eg., Thomas White, Hal Lindsey,
Robert Zoellick...)

Refusal to intervene when it became obvious
that Enron and others like them (eg Williams
Energy) were manipulating energy transmission
patterns with the express purpose of bilking
the state of California. Most of this took place
during shrub's term.

Refusal to enforce meaningful punishment from
these same companies when the scam was
fully exposed.

Massive connections between Dick Cheney
and a major league defense contractor, named
Halliburton -- which, after being given no-bid
contracts to "rebuild" Iraq, proceeded to
overcharge the US government for gasoline
"imported" into Iraq. Similar shady dealings
with Bechtel, Fluor, and a host of other major
"oil patch" industries who collectiveley gave
many millions to the the Bush campaign, and
indeed to previous republican administrations
dating back to Reagan's term or beyond.

Connections between Richard Perle -- senior
level Pentagon advisor -- and Global Crossing,
and his attempts to influence US telecom contracts
in China. (An incident which led to Perle's resignation/
dismissal as the head of the Defense Advisory board.)

Connections between Perle and certain Arab
millionaires, to sell shares and interests in Perle's
"anti-terrorism" enterprises.

Paul Wolfowitz, Perle's neocon sidekick, sits
on the board of directors of Northrop Grumman,
another major defense contractor.

Michael Powell, (Colin's son) as head of the FCC,
attempting to concentrate control of US media into
ever-fewer hands -- for which he was slapped down
by congress (though a "39% compromise" is now
being aired.)

Bush's cabinet is stuffed with corporate lobbyists
who are on record expressing outright hostility to the
basic mission of the agencies they head -- eg. Gail
Norton, Spencer Abraham, et. al.

On matters affecting the environment or the quality
of our air or water, count on bush and his admin to
favor polluters and exploiters at every opportunity.
On matters of worker's rights or workplace safety,
count on the bushies to favor the employers every
time. On matters of tax policy, count on the bushies
to favor the wealthy, every time. On matters of
civil rights, count on the bushies to favor secrecy
and executive power every time.

The list goes on and on. These people have
no shame. And right wingers seem to think it's
all just fine, or are ignorant of what their hero is
up to.


ALL of which is leftist, paranoid, "We gotta paint the other side as crooks
so people don't realize WE'RE the real thieves", guilt-by-association
bull****!

In three years there's not been one corruption scandal related to the Bush
administration. In a like period Clinton's cabinet was rife with lawsuits,
resignations and gross corruption abounded. They couldn't wait to try &
blame their own cronyism on Bush, yet the public knows better. Face facts,
the leftists are the most corrupt movement in history, and lie through their
teeth with every breath.


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Jerry McG
 
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Thank God the accusation is enough when we're talking Republicans, eh,
Fatboy?

Giftz hits it square on the head. Particularly when the leftists control the
media, they can spin anything they want any way they want to make themselves
out to be above reproach, while anyone who disagrees with them is obviously
on the take.

The fact remains, this is the most scandal free administration in
generations, and it's just killing the leftists. Meanwhile their old buddies
at Enron & Global Crossing and the limousine liberals in Hollywood and Wall
Street are up to their asses in scandals they can't shake.

The Democrats and their crypto-commie Socialist buddies are the biggest
bunch of lying, conniving scum since the Leninists to ever reach a position
of control of a major world power. Their attempts at mind control through
incessant lies and duplicity spread through their media fellow-travelers are
akin to the "big lies" of the most vicious and corrupt communist regimes.
They secretly long for the return of their heroes, the Soviet thugs of yore.
Don't hold your breath, lefty.




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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:21:30 -0500, Giftzwerg
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In article ,
says...

Massive connections between the Bush
campaign and Enron management. More
than a few ex-Enron execs now in the Bush
admin (eg., Thomas White, Hal Lindsey,
Robert Zoellick...)


Is this according to ex-Enron flack Paul Krugman?



It's public record, but being a right winger,
we can't expect to impress you with mere facts.


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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:36:48 -0700, "Jerry McG"
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"Rafe B." wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:48:52 -0700, "Jerry McG"
wrote:


Virtually ALL of the corporate crime being uncovered (Enron, Worldcom,
Global Crossing, Tyco) occured under the Inspector Clouseau-like Clinton
administration. Just what connection, other than a Holiday card exchange,
can be attributed to the Bush II administration? That's right NONE! More
leftist hypocrisy that's completely transparent.



Massive connections between the Bush
campaign and Enron management. More
than a few ex-Enron execs now in the Bush
admin (eg., Thomas White, Hal Lindsey,
Robert Zoellick...)

Refusal to intervene when it became obvious
that Enron and others like them (eg Williams
Energy) were manipulating energy transmission
patterns with the express purpose of bilking
the state of California. Most of this took place
during shrub's term.

Refusal to enforce meaningful punishment from
these same companies when the scam was
fully exposed.

Massive connections between Dick Cheney
and a major league defense contractor, named
Halliburton -- which, after being given no-bid
contracts to "rebuild" Iraq, proceeded to
overcharge the US government for gasoline
"imported" into Iraq. Similar shady dealings
with Bechtel, Fluor, and a host of other major
"oil patch" industries who collectiveley gave
many millions to the the Bush campaign, and
indeed to previous republican administrations
dating back to Reagan's term or beyond.

Connections between Richard Perle -- senior
level Pentagon advisor -- and Global Crossing,
and his attempts to influence US telecom contracts
in China. (An incident which led to Perle's resignation/
dismissal as the head of the Defense Advisory board.)

Connections between Perle and certain Arab
millionaires, to sell shares and interests in Perle's
"anti-terrorism" enterprises.

Paul Wolfowitz, Perle's neocon sidekick, sits
on the board of directors of Northrop Grumman,
another major defense contractor.

Michael Powell, (Colin's son) as head of the FCC,
attempting to concentrate control of US media into
ever-fewer hands -- for which he was slapped down
by congress (though a "39% compromise" is now
being aired.)

Bush's cabinet is stuffed with corporate lobbyists
who are on record expressing outright hostility to the
basic mission of the agencies they head -- eg. Gail
Norton, Spencer Abraham, et. al.

On matters affecting the environment or the quality
of our air or water, count on bush and his admin to
favor polluters and exploiters at every opportunity.
On matters of worker's rights or workplace safety,
count on the bushies to favor the employers every
time. On matters of tax policy, count on the bushies
to favor the wealthy, every time. On matters of
civil rights, count on the bushies to favor secrecy
and executive power every time.

The list goes on and on. These people have
no shame. And right wingers seem to think it's
all just fine, or are ignorant of what their hero is
up to.


ALL of which is leftist, paranoid, "We gotta paint the other side as crooks
so people don't realize WE'RE the real thieves", guilt-by-association
bull****!

In three years there's not been one corruption scandal related to the Bush
administration. In a like period Clinton's cabinet was rife with lawsuits,
resignations and gross corruption abounded. They couldn't wait to try &
blame their own cronyism on Bush, yet the public knows better. Face facts,
the leftists are the most corrupt movement in history, and lie through their
teeth with every breath.



It figures. I cite facts. You simply blather.


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Jerry McG wrote:

ALL of which is leftist, paranoid, "We gotta paint the other side as crooks
so people don't realize WE'RE the real thieves", guilt-by-association
bull****!

In three years there's not been one corruption scandal related to the Bush
administration.



And why would there be? Who wants to be detained indefinitely without
access to attorneys because you've done something the administration
doesn't like? It's funny when Rumsfeld waxes malevolent about "Saddam's
death squads"--somebody should ask him about the U.S.'s "detainment
squads". Does anybody really believe the U.S. government isn't
currently committing war crimes?

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Jerry McG wrote:
Thank God the accusation is enough when we're talking Republicans, eh,


Fatboy?

Giftz hits it square on the head. Particularly when the leftists control the
media, they can spin anything they want any way they want to make themselves
out to be above reproach, while anyone who disagrees with them is obviously
on the take.

The fact remains, this is the most scandal free administration in
generations, and it's just killing the leftists. Meanwhile their old buddies
at Enron & Global Crossing and the limousine liberals in Hollywood and Wall
Street are up to their asses in scandals they can't shake.

The Democrats and their crypto-commie Socialist buddies are the biggest
bunch of lying, conniving scum since the Leninists to ever reach a position
of control of a major world power. Their attempts at mind control through
incessant lies and duplicity spread through their media fellow-travelers are
akin to the "big lies" of the most vicious and corrupt communist regimes.
They secretly long for the return of their heroes, the Soviet thugs of yore.
Don't hold your breath, lefty.




The Bush administration has set up a fascist regime where people can be
detained indefinitely without access to attorneys--the same thing they
accused Saddam of doing. They have turned our justice system into a
joke, and not a very funny one at that.

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