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"Woodworking" Magazine goes Subscription
"Woodworking", the no-ad, newsstand only, no-BS, very well written
magazine, by some of the Popular Woodworking editors has gone subscription! This has become my favorite magazine, when I can actually find it. $20 gets 4 issues. More he http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/ ** No connection other than a satisfied reader ** --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- |
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B A R R Y wrote:
"Woodworking", the no-ad, newsstand only, no-BS, very well written magazine, by some of the Popular Woodworking editors has gone subscription! This has become my favorite magazine, when I can actually find it. $20 gets 4 issues. More he http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/ Thank you. I looked at the one issue they make available for free online and I liked what I saw enough to subscribe. I found the free issue he http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/...EPT2004_WM.pdf Good stuff! John |
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"John Horner" wrote in message Thank you. I looked at the one issue they make available for free online and I liked what I saw enough to subscribe. I found the free issue he http://www.woodworking-magazine.com/...EPT2004_WM.pdf I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. |
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"Upscale" wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. Consumer Reports and Practical Sailor are a couple of rags that survive without paid advertising. Lew |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Upscale" wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. Consumer Reports and Practical Sailor are a couple of rags that survive without paid advertising. Don't know about the latter, the former is essentially useless imo--at least they and I almost never agree in their assessments... -- |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:38:52 GMT, John Horner
wrote: Good stuff! I love it, so I thought I'd share it. Chris Schwartz, and the staff has a real "no BS", real world, attitude that's worth a look. It's "Popular Woodworking" on steroids. |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:29:16 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. Try the free issue. |
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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message ... "Upscale" wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. Consumer Reports and Practical Sailor are a couple of rags that survive without paid advertising. Lew Shopnotes and Woodsmith really don't have much advertising. I like Woodworking magazine and will probably subscribe to it. |
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"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" wrote in message Try the free issue. I did. It's fine, but that's not the point. Most new magazines come out with interesting stuff. It's maintaining that level of quality and getting in enough cash flow to keep the magazine going that will determine it's longevity. |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:16:40 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote: "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" wrote in message Try the free issue. I did. It's fine, but that's not the point. Most new magazines come out with interesting stuff. It's maintaining that level of quality and getting in enough cash flow to keep the magazine going that will determine it's longevity. I agree. "Woodworking" has been around since 2004. |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:29:16 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. No, it's going to be an EXPENSIVE magazine. They have to make their money somewhere and if it doesn't come from advertisers, it's going to come from consumers. |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:00:37 -0500, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
wrote: I agree. "Woodworking" has been around since 2004. That's not much longevity, sorry. Further, if they're going to give a "free" issue, why give one from 2004, not one from 2007? |
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"Brian Henderson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:29:16 -0500, "Upscale" wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. No, it's going to be an EXPENSIVE magazine. They have to make their money somewhere and if it doesn't come from advertisers, it's going to come from consumers. Not going to be, "IS" 4 issues for $20 is pretty high. Having said that most all the WW magazines I subscribe to are pretty expensive. You generally get what you pay for. |
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"Woodworking" Magazine goes Subscription
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:28:39 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: Not going to be, "IS" 4 issues for $20 is pretty high. Has anyone seen the cover price of most magazines? |
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"Brian Henderson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:29:16 -0500, "Upscale" wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. No, it's going to be an EXPENSIVE magazine. They have to make their money somewhere and if it doesn't come from advertisers, it's going to come from consumers. I've purchased three already and I don't consider them over priced. The cover price on Woodworking is the same as the popular magazines that are mostly advertising. Woodsmith has been around for a long time and they don't have advertisers. |
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Not going to be, "IS" 4 issues for $20 is pretty high.
Depends on what you compare it to. Many mags are cheaper, some even down to about $1/issue on eBay or with multi-year specials. And they may be worth it at that price. However, per-issue, Woodworking comes out about the same as Fine Woodworking, right? IMO, Woodworking is a far nicer publication (especially compared to recent FWWs), and the lack of ads is a nice bonus. I have all 8 issues published so far, and would happily give away the rest of my WW mag collection (and many of my WW books) before I gave up these 8 issues. I subscribed as soon as I got the email. Andy |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:28:39 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: Not going to be, "IS" 4 issues for $20 is pretty high. Having said that most all the WW magazines I subscribe to are pretty expensive. You generally get what you pay for. Content has nothing to do with ads and honestly, I'd much rather see the ads because I often find out about new products that way. No ads isn't a selling point for me at all. |
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"Brian Henderson" wrote in message Content has nothing to do with ads and honestly, I'd much rather see the ads because I often find out about new products that way. No ads isn't a selling point for me at all. I have to agree with that up to a point too. I think that after I reached a certain knowledge level, I became increasingly interested in new products that come out on the market. I do admit to being a Normite much more than a Neander so I'm sure that accounts for a good part of what I'm interested in seeing. The two latest additions to woodworking that have really caught my interest is Festool's Domino and the line of lowered woodworking machinery that General Tools is in the process of manufacturing. Those who know me will know why the General Tools machinery has my attention. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:37:51 GMT, Brian Henderson
wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:28:39 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Not going to be, "IS" 4 issues for $20 is pretty high. Having said that most all the WW magazines I subscribe to are pretty expensive. You generally get what you pay for. Content has nothing to do with ads and honestly, I'd much rather see the ads because I often find out about new products that way. No ads isn't a selling point for me at all. Here too. I no longer attend shows to see the latest, so I appreciate the ads. Anything over $5 for a magazine is overpriced. |
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"Leon" wrote in
. net: "Brian Henderson" wrote in message ... On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:29:16 -0500, "Upscale" wrote: I noticed right at the top of the .pdf it states "a new magazine" with "no ads". It's going to have to be an exceptional magazine if it's going to survive without advertising of some sort. No, it's going to be an EXPENSIVE magazine. They have to make their money somewhere and if it doesn't come from advertisers, it's going to come from consumers. Not going to be, "IS" 4 issues for $20 is pretty high. Having said that most all the WW magazines I subscribe to are pretty expensive. You generally get what you pay for. That's $5/issue. Not horrible. Compare this to other magazines (there's one dedicated to Linux I'm thinking of) that want almost $10 an issue. It is, however, ultimately up to you whether or not it's worth the money. You may enjoy $5 worth of screws more this month. *shrug* Puckdropper -- Marching to the beat of a different drum is great... unless you're in marching band. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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Wow - so people actually like ads? I'd rather find out about new
products via catalogs, blogs, forums, or magazine article writeups. But if there's a market for a WW magazine with more ads and less content, I'd want to be a paid member of their staff! Maybe I'll start that magazine - charge people for something that I'm already getting paid to publish. Sounds like a deal to me. |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:34:06 -0500, "Upscale"
wrote: I have to agree with that up to a point too. I think that after I reached a certain knowledge level, I became increasingly interested in new products that come out on the market. I do admit to being a Normite much more than a Neander so I'm sure that accounts for a good part of what I'm interested in seeing. I'm just as interested in seeing the newest hand planes as I am the newest power tools, but I know what you mean. A lot of my tool purchases come because I find out things are available through the ads. |
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Don't care much for ads but I could live with or without them. This
is one of the best woodworking mags left (especially with FWW articals saying you need 42 bar clamps to do a 3 foot glue up). It was tough to find locally and I purchased it on site when I came across it at significantly more than $5. There are more than enough $2 per issues subscriptions out there rehashing plans for yet another patio chair. If those are to your taste more power to you. Twenty bucks for a subscription to Woodworking is a bargin off of cover price and well worth it. If that is what quality costs I am willing to support it. I hope as readership increases they are able to do more issues in a year. Daryl |
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On Jan 17, 9:52*am, Chris Friesen wrote:
wrote: This is one of the best woodworking mags left (especially with FWW articals saying you need 42 bar clamps to do a 3 foot glue up). Actually, they said you need a lot of pressure to do an "optimal" glue joint. *This is true (if you doubt them, take a look at the titebond website, they suggest a minimum of 100psi for softwoods, and up to 250psi for hardwoods). They didn't cover how much pressure is necessary for an "acceptable" joint, which is closer to what most home woodworkers are looking for. Chris That is kind of like saying the optimum weld is when both peices of metal are completely melted into one molten mass. IIRC the "optimum" glue joint pressure for cherry was 1200 PSI and a bar clamp was rated under 1100. With no cleats or pads my bar clamps faces are about one inch wide which means at best putting clamps dead nuts against each other I still fall short of the "optimum" joint. Maybe it was scientifically true it is literally unattainable short of a very large hydraulic press and like melting part A and B into a single gelatenous mass it lacked any reasonable level of common sense and should have never made it into print of what is often otherwise one of the best 2 or 3 mags out there. IMHO they knocked themselves down one notch for printing it and another for the lame defense this past month. Ah but back on course with this thread. "Woodworking" has not always been easy to find in my area but I do consider it one of the best. |
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"Andrew Barss" wrote in message the author was a scientist makes the article even more appalling since he should have understood what optimization is from the outset. Possibly, English is not that scientist's first language and that person is not as fluent in it as they could be. Your mentioning this makes me think of some of the arguments I've had (mostly online) with some really smart people who seem to think that even though they're working in an English environment, they don't need to be completely fluent in the English language as long as they have all their scientific knowledge down pat. I'm pretty sure most won't admit their language difficulties because they feel it diminishes them in the eyes of others despite all they scientific smarts and credentials they may have. |
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