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The Tears Of Finding The Truth
Through The Internet INTRODUCTION The following story occurred on the Internet through one of the chat programs (Freetel) in January 1999. It is a real dialogue between a Christian and a Muslim. The story centers on Derek's realization of today's Christianity and his subsequent conversion to lslam. This Christian-Muslim dialogue has been edited for readability and for the clarity of its message. ABDULLAH: Hello there! How are you man? DEREK: Hello! Well, how are you? ABDULLAH: I'm fine and you? DEREK: I'm fine thanks. ABDULLAH: Where are you from? DEREK: I'm from L.A. (Los Angeles). ABDULLAH: The land of Hollywood! DEREK: Well that's right. Have you ever been to L.A.? ABDULLAH: No, never. Why are you calling yourself the Black Magic? DEREK: It's just a nickname, man! ABDULLAH: I see. DEREK: Where are you from? Are you an Arab? ABDULLAH: Yes, I am from Saudi Arabia but I'm in Qatar now. What is your name? DEREK: My name is Derek. What's your name? ABDULLAH: My name is Abdullah. DEREK: What does Abdullah mean? ABDULLAH: Abdullah means the servant of Allah and it is the function of each individual on the face of the earth to serve llah according to what Allah wants from us. By the way, Allah is the proper name of God. DEREK: How do we know what God or Allah wants from us? ABDULLAH: All of this is outlined in the Qur'an and the Sunnah (Ways of Prophet Muhammad; his sayings, actions and aprovals). These are the two major sources of guidance in lslam. Could you please tell me more about yourself? How ol are you? DEREK: I am 19 years old, black and very uch interested in knowing more about lslam. First of all, what should a person do or believe in to become a Muslim? ABDULLAH: Very easy, you just say that there is no god worthy of worshi but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger, and you become Muslim, DEREK: You mean Muhammad is his apostle? But a a Christian or non- Muslim, this sentence is not enough to make it clear to me. ABDULLAH: Ok Allah sent Muhammad a His last Prophet and Messenger and revealed the Qur'an to him as the final revelation to mankind. Allah said that He perected His religion and called it lslam (see Qur'an 5:3). Islam means peaceful submission to the Will of Allah. DEREK: I see. ABDULLAH: Yes, and unfortunately most Christians don't know or they deny that the coming of Prophet Muhammad is foretold in their scriptures (See Deuternomy 18:18; 21: 21; Psalms 1 18:22-23; Isiah 42:1-13; Habakuk 3:3-4; Matthew 21:42-43; John 14:12-17,15:26,27; 1:5-16). Muslim theologians have stated that the person who is described by Jesus to come after him (in the above verses) is Mhammed (peace be upon him). DEREK: OK Fine, but why was there a need for another prophet after Jesus and another revelation after the Bible? ABDULLAH: All of the Prophets came to teach their peoples the Oneness of God. In the case of Jesus, he was only sent as a Messenger to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (see Matt. 15:24). What happened was that all of these prophets were not well received by the majority of the people. For instance, they started tampering with the teachings of Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them (see Qur'an 2:79). That is why Allah sent Muhammad with the last Message, (i.e., the Qur'an), to bring all of mankind back to the belief in and worship of One God, without partners or intermediaries. DEREK: Is the Qur'an similar to the Bible? I mean, what is it composed of? ABDULLAH: The Qur'an came as the last code emphasizing the same pure monotheistic teachings of Jesus peace be upon him, defending all the previous pure teachings of monotheistic beliefs and clarifying who Jesus was and who his mother was, showing that they were no more than great people. DEREK: OK then, how-can we be sure that the Qur'an has remained the same since the time of Prophet Muhammad? ABDULLAH: Allah Himself has guaranteed that He would guard the Qur'an from corruption (see Qur'an 15:9). Hence, the real and pure words of Allah are found in the Qur'an, which was revealed in Arabic, the language of Mohammed's people. Since then, not an iota has changed. This is unlike what has happened in the other religions. For example, if you look at the Bible, you find a lot of versions; the name Bible itself is indicative of those changes because Bible means a collection of books from different writers. DEREK: But didn't God call it the Bible? ABDULLAH: God calls the Scripture revealed to Jesus "Injeel" in the Qur'an for which the closest name in the Bible would be the word Gospel. The Bible was written may years after the time of Jesus in a language that was alien to Jesus; it was Latin Vulgate, a language that he never spoke. Isn't this strange? Interestingly, most of what was written in the New Testament was authored by Paul, who, according to James, the brother of Jesus in the Bible, had a polluted mind because he changed and contradicted most of the teachings of Jesus. DEREK: I think you know more about Christianity than the Pope does. ABDULLAH: You are wrong by saying that I know more than the Pope. I have simply investigated the Bible with an inquiring mind, which is something that all Christians should do. DEREK: Is there any English version of the Holy Qur'an? ABDULLAH: There are many translations of the meanings of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was revealed in Arabic which means that the words of ALLAH are in Arabic. The translations are the words of human beings relating to the meanings of the Qur'an to the non-Arabic speaking masses. DEREK: How does the Qur'an define God to mankind or how does the Muslim perceive God? ABDULLAH: GOD is the One and Only True GOD, and the Creator of all. He does not beget nor is He begotten. He is unlike His creation in every respect. He is the All-knowing, The Powerful, The Merciful, The Irresistible, and The King of kings. DEREK: But it is somehow difficult for me to perceive God as being the same as His creatures. ABDULLAH: You are absolutely right to have difficulty perceiving this because human beings have a limited capacity. This is why ALLAH sent revelations to His Prophets and Messengers to tell us who He is. So if you want to know who God is, just read the Qur'an. DEREK: Christians believe that Jesus was sent for the salvation of all mankind. If this is not true, then the foundation of Christianity is faulty. Right? What do you think? ABDULLAH: That's correct. The Christians of today are following what Paul taught and also tend to follow what the priests tell them to do instead of following what Jesus said. DEREK: Kindly explain the concept of salvation through the crucifixion of Jesus. ABDULLAH: In Christianity, the Doctrine of Original Sin is the reason that there is a need for salvation through Jesus' crucifixion. However, this doctrine was invented by Paul and it is strongly negated in the Old Testament (see Ezekial 18:20, Jeremiah 31:30, Deut. 24:16). This doctrine is an attempt to escape the responsibility of righteousness with the belief that punishment is given to someone else to release us from our burden of sins (see Ephesians 1:7, Romans 4:25, 10:9, Corinthians 15:21) In the Qur'an, every soul is responsible for its own deeds, good or bad (see 74:38,41:46, 3:25, 6:154). DEREK: What about the crucifixion itself? ABDULLAH: The Bible says Jesus cried out in a loud voice beseeching God for help on the cross: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46) Does that sound like Jesus to you? DEREK: No, then what about Jesus' appearance to his disciples after the crucifixion? ABDULLAH: Jesus didn't die on the cross nor was he resurrected. If he were resurrected, then he would have come to his disciples in a spiritual body. As shown in Luke 24:36-43, he met them with his physical body after the event of his alleged crucifixion. In the Qur'an, it says that Jesus was not crucified, but it was someone else who was made to look like him (see 4:157,158). DEREK: How did the story of the crucifixion of Jesus get into the Bible then? ABDULLAH: Once again, Paul was responsible (see Timothy 2:8 and Romans 5:10). DEREK: Well, I, very deep in my heart, believe that God can never look like his creation nor does he do what they do. What I believe is that God is the perfect one who is very much different from everything we see or touch. In other words, I think the writer can never look like his book. ABDULLAH: You are right. There is nothing comparable to Allah (see Qur'an 112:4). The prophets came with a very clear message to worship God alone, without any partners or intercessors. However, Paul took pagan beliefs and practices from the Romans and mixed them with the teachings of Jesus. Consequently, Paul was mostly responsible for elevating Jesus to the status of Son of God (see Acts 9:20) and God. DEREK: Yes. Now I remember. The first Commandment is, " Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord." ABDULLAH: You're right. That's in Mark 12:29. Moreover, the Qur'an confirms that God is One: "Say He is Allah, the One and Only (God)." (Qur'an 112:1) DEREK: What you are saying makes perfect sense. This is just incredible! You mean that for almost 2000 years what the Christians have been following is wrong? ABDULLAH: Yes, especially their misunderstanding of who Jesus was. DEREK: Oh my God! I've been deceived! Really, I feel religiously raped. I have been fooled simply because I followed blindly the religion that I was born with and didn't take care to investigate it thoroughly. But still inside me there is something holding me back from accepting lslam, even though lslam is clearly the True Religion. ABDULLAH: Your last comment shows that you are a Muslim not a Christian and if you really love God and His Messenger Jesus, you will follow lslam and Prophet Muhammad. Break this barrier inside you and come back to the way of your ancestors. You are now free because you are looking for the Truth and our great prophet Jesus told us that we should look for the Truth and the Truth will set us free. So, you will be a free man as soon as you accept It. Be strong enough to accept lslam as the Truth, without any hesitation on your part and you will taste real freedom and real happiness that you have never tasted before. DEREK: Frankly, I am concerned about the negative way lslam and Muslims are shown in the media. In the West, there is a stigma attached to being a Muslim and I'm not sure I'm ready to live with that stigma. ABDULLAH: This is why I have chosen to tell people about the right picture of lslam. DEREK: Then, what is the right picture of lslam? ABDULLAH: The right picture of lslam is conveyed in the Qur'an, which is exemplified by Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. The reality is that it is not fair to judge a religion by the actions of its followers alone because there are good and bad followers in every religion. The correct thing to do is to judge a religion by its documented revelation from God and the prophet who brought that revelation. DEREK: I see. I agree with you, but I'm still concerned about the reaction of my family and friends if they know that I am a Muslim. ABDULLAH: On Judgement Day, no one will be able to help you, not even your father, mother or any of your friends (see Qur'an 31:33). So, if you believe that lslam is the True religion, you should embrace it and live your life to please the One Who created you. Be an illuminating torch for them. Do not delay your coming to lslam. If you die before becoming a Muslim, then it's too late (see Qur'an 2:132, 3:102, 3:85). So grab this opportunity now. You can only remedy this pain inside you by becoming a Muslim and being able in the future, God willing, to come and perform pilgrimage (Hajj). DEREK: You are very wise man, I want to say that when I sometimes see on the satellite, especially in the season of Hajj, people of different colors and different races sitting side by side and praying to God, I feel pain deep inside my heart and I feel something urging me to talk with someone to know more about that great religion that can gather all the races in the same place. Thanks to you, I have found that person. So please help me become a Muslim! ABDULLAH: Brother let us take it step by step. First, enter lslam by saying: I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH. AND I BEAR WITNESS THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER. I BEAR WITNESS THAT JESUS IS HIS PROPHET AND MESSENGER. Let us say this again, I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH AND I BEAR WITNESS THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER. I BEAR WITNESS THAT JESUS IS HIS PROPHET AND MESSENGERS. I BEAR WITNESS THAT JESUS IS HIS PROPHET AND MESSENGER. DEREK: I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH. I BEAR WITNESS THAT MUHAMMAD IS HIS SERVANT AND LAST MESSENGER. I BEAR WITNESS THAT EISA IS HIS SERVANT AND MESSENGER. ABDULLAH: By the way, Jesus' name is not Jesus. It is a latinized name. His real name is Eisa. Now you will say the same thing in Arabic, the language of the Qur'an. I will transliterate for you. ASH'HADU AN LA'ILAHA ILLA ALLAH WAASH'HADU ANNA MUHAMMMADAN RASOOLULLAH WA ASH'HADU ANNA EISA ABDULLAHI WA RASOOLUHU. DEREK: ASHADU AN LA ILAHA ILLALLAH WA ASHADU ANNA MUHAMMADAN RASULULLAH WA ASHADU ANNA EISA ABDULLAH1 WA RASOOLUHU. ABDULLAH: Brother, say ALLAH is the greatest because you are a Muslim now. You are not a Christian anymore. Your are in the House of lslam. If I were with you, I would hug you as my brother in lslam. How do you feel now? A burden has been removed from you and you feel like you are so light, isn't this right? DEREK: If you were with me now, you would have seen my tears reaching my neck. You are a great brother. I feel that I have just come to life, This is exactly how I feel from now. I don't have to listen the silly words of the priests in the church, who knowingly or unknowingly lead people astray. I hope to be a good servant of ALLAH. ABDULLAH: You know what came out of you was disbelief and it was replaced by belief. You are so clean now, because when someone embraces Islam sincerely, Allah forgives all of his past sins. So, go to the Islamic center that has Muslims from all over the world and announce your lslam there, and continue to learn more about lslam from them. In addition, find a book on prayer in lslam and practice it. This is essential. Now after you are through with me, you must take a shower to purify yourself from previous wrong beliefs. Remember to stay away from bad company and be with righteous Muslim people. Also, beware of those so-called Muslims who call to nationalistic ideas or racial thoughts, which are rejected in lslam. I love you as a brother in lslam and I hope one day I will see you and hear your voice. DEREK: I will for sure do what you have asked. And tomorrow I will go to the Islamic center. Thank you for showing me the Truth. I will do my best to meet people who know about lslam for sure. May God help you guide more and more people to the true word of God. There is no God but ALLAH and Muhammad is his Apostle... Well it is as difficult for me as it is for you to leave you. ABDULLAH: Well brother, you will not leave me for a long time. I will soon be with you through my supplications. God willing. Pray for me, brother. DEREK: Well, I thank you, I love you although I do not know you yet. But it is enough for me to remember that one day, a very dear man has picked me up from the mud of life. Please teach me another Islamic word in Arabic so as to make use of it in the Islamic center. ABDULLAH: Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu and Astaghfirullah. DEREK: What do they mean? ABDULLAH: May the Peace, Mercy and Blessings of Allah be upon you. This is used as a greeting to all Muslims. The last word means, Allah forgive me. Well, I have to leave you now but be sure it will not be for long. DEREK: Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu and Astaghfirullah for being astray from the Truth all those years. May God bless you. You have occupied a great place in my heart and I will never forget you. Bye and talk to you later. Your brother in lslam, Derek, but I will call myself Eisa from now on. ABDULLAH: OK Eisa. I will leave you some final words of inspiration. Certainly, the ultimate goal of every individual is to be in Paradise forever. This reward of Paradise is too great to not have a price. That price is true faith, which is proven obedience to Allah and following the Sunnah of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh). THIS IS THE ROAD TO PARADISE. Let's stay in touch! Assalamu Alaikum! DEREK: O.K. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu Publication's Source www.islamworld.net www.dawahmemo.com |
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*SNIP of a rare combination of pizzle and tripe*
THIS IS THE ROAD TO PARADISE. Let's stay in touch! Assalamu Alaikum! *DEREK: O.K. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu OK man, I'm feeling your pain. While we are talking about finding the tears of truth, here's some for you. - Gorilla glue only sticks well to thinkgs you don't want it to; it doesn't expand to fill the voids unless it pushes your work apart or foams out stuff that a belt sander can't remove *SOB* - $3 a gallon for gas is honestly killing me. For the first time in the history of my company I am now forced to charge for repair estimates *SOB* - 24 isn't on TV this year. With Frontline in the toilet, what's that point of television? *SOB* - Put on 6 pounds over the holidays WTF happened there? The only "truth" here is that I think I ate too much product from my new smokers *SOB* - My favorite bourbon (Ezra Williams) continues to go up and up. Even club soda has gone up... but the truth is I don't drink much anymore so this may not be all that important. But anyway - *SOB* - I only got 57,500 miles out of my 60,000 mile rated tires. Where was the truth then? Talk about learning a life lesson... *SOB* - The truth is that I found that my teeth aren't much whiter than before when I used the new super powered Colgate that has every whitener, freshner, and flouride additive in it. Talk about a drag. I gave it the benefit of using full tube, too, just like the ad said. (You were supposed to use it all at once, right?) Liars! *SOB* - Claims/lies about removing static cling. Jeez.. don't get me going on this one. Like a good constuction worker, all my clothes are cotton. Since they have all been washed about 1,000 times, I wash everything together and no matter what softener I use, my clothes still crackle and stick together *SOB* - I just bought a pile of Bosch jig saw blades (150!) from a jobber that must have been sharpened on a concrete curb and the teeth set with a brick. They are worth slightly more than I paid for them, but that may be my ego talking here and not my brain. I think my tears of truth are that I made a bad purchase thinking I was getting "a deal" *SOB* - I almost had some real tears in my eyes when I found another truth out on the job last week. It was really cold, and I was loading 5's of roofing mastic in my truck. One slipped out of my freezing hands... it landed on my foot at the web of my toes... talk about finding truth, seeing the Big Guy, experiencing flashing colors in my vision... not to mention breaking my resolution to keep from swearing so much. Of course the last part happened when I could actually breathe again *SOB* - I ran across an old wood glue test that pitted Elmers white glue, Elmer's yellow carpenter's glue, Titebond (original), and another yellow glue like Weldbond. I hope you are sitting down as this one will hurt. Elmer's white performed almost exactly as the others. That hurt... real tears... I mean really, what is the point of being a professional if you can't snort that you only use Titebond 2? You are reduced to an elementary school kid if his glue holds as well as yours. Bet your bones are rattling now, right? I stayed in bed for a week... *SOB* - Makita NMHi drill batteries don't last like they should. I found this truth out over a period of about a month of trying to figure out when I could actually use the damn thing *SOB* - Plywood is getting thinner, again. *SOB* - Just about every damn band or artist I listened to in the 60's and 70's sound like crap now. I guess a constant life of heavy abuse of drugs, alcohol, cigarettes and unlimited sex IS bad for you. It's heartbreaking. All these years I thought those guys were lucky. (OK, face it, they WERE lucky - they were probably getting home about the time we were all taking a mid morning cig break) *SOB* - I ruined a really nice watch a few months ago, and re-learned the painful lesson of water resistance versus water proof. What in the hell is the good of "water resistant to 3M"? How do we know how much the watch resisted? Mine was dead and couldn't tell me, but I don't think he resisted much... he was kinda old... maybe he just gave up... *SOB* I could go on, but I won't. It's too painful, kinda like beign on Oprah. I hope others will share their tears as well. Robert |
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On Jan 10, 1:16*am, "
wrote: *SNIP of a rare combination of pizzle and tripe* THIS IS THE ROAD TO PARADISE. Let's stay in touch! Assalamu Alaikum! *DEREK: O.K. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu OK man, I'm feeling your pain. *While we are talking about finding the tears of truth, here's some for you. - Gorilla glue only sticks well to thinkgs you don't want it to; it doesn't expand to fill the voids unless it pushes your work apart or foams out stuff that a belt sander can't remove *SOB* - $3 a gallon for gas is honestly killing me. *For the first time in the history of my company I am now forced to charge for repair estimates *SOB* - 24 isn't on TV this year. *With Frontline in the toilet, what's that point of television? *SOB* - Put on 6 pounds over the holidays *WTF happened there? *The only "truth" here is that I think I ate too much product from my new smokers *SOB* - My favorite bourbon (Ezra Williams) continues to go up and up. *Even club soda has gone up... *but the truth is I don't drink much anymore so this may not be all that important. *But anyway - *SOB* - I only got 57,500 miles out of my 60,000 mile rated tires. *Where was the truth then? *Talk about learning a life lesson... *SOB* - The truth is that I found that my teeth aren't much whiter than before when I used the new super powered Colgate that has every whitener, freshner, and flouride additive in it. *Talk about a drag. I gave it the benefit of using full tube, too, just like the ad said. (You were supposed to use it all at once, right?) Liars! *SOB* - Claims/lies about removing static cling. *Jeez.. don't get me going on this one. *Like a good constuction worker, all my clothes are cotton. *Since they have all been washed about 1,000 times, I wash everything together and no matter what softener I use, my clothes still crackle and stick together *SOB* - I just bought a pile of Bosch jig saw blades (150!) from a jobber that must have been sharpened on a concrete curb and the teeth set with a brick. *They are worth slightly more than I paid for them, but that may be my ego talking here and not my brain. *I think my tears of truth are that I made a bad purchase thinking I was getting "a deal" *SOB* - I almost had some real tears in my eyes when I found another truth out on the job last week. *It was really cold, and I was loading 5's of roofing mastic in my truck. *One slipped out of my freezing hands... it landed on my foot at the web of my toes... *talk about finding truth, seeing the Big Guy, experiencing flashing colors in my vision... not to mention breaking my resolution to keep from swearing so much. *Of course the last part happened when I could actually breathe again *SOB* - I ran across an old wood glue test that pitted Elmers white glue, Elmer's yellow carpenter's glue, Titebond (original), and another yellow glue like Weldbond. *I hope you are sitting down as this one will hurt. *Elmer's white performed almost exactly as the others. That hurt... real tears... I mean really, what is the point of being a professional if you can't snort that you only use Titebond 2? *You are reduced to an elementary school kid if his glue holds as well as yours. *Bet your bones are rattling now, right? *I stayed in bed for a week... *SOB* - Makita NMHi drill batteries don't last like they should. *I found this truth out over a period of about a month of trying to figure out when I could actually use the damn thing *SOB* - Plywood is getting thinner, again. *SOB* - Just about every damn band or artist I listened to in the 60's and 70's sound like crap now. *I guess a constant life of heavy abuse of drugs, alcohol, cigarettes and unlimited sex IS bad for you. *It's heartbreaking. All these years I thought those guys were lucky. *(OK, face it, they WERE lucky - they were probably getting home about the time we were all taking a mid morning cig break) *SOB* - I ruined a really nice watch a few months ago, and re-learned the painful lesson of water resistance versus water proof. *What in the hell is the good of "water resistant to 3M"? *How do we know how much the watch resisted? *Mine was dead and couldn't tell me, but I don't think he resisted much... he was kinda old... maybe he just gave up... *SOB* I could go on, but I won't. *It's too painful, kinda like beign on Oprah. *I hope others will share their tears as well. Robert Only one way to comment...."Farking hilarious!" *tears* for real! r |
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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... wrote: *SOB* Today, somehow, somewhere, I lost my pocket knife. *SOB* It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Next? This begs the question: SHUDDER Why would your wife give you a knife to celebrate the birth of your son?????????????????????? /SHUDDER -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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wrote in message ... *SNIP of a rare combination of pizzle and tripe* THIS IS THE ROAD TO PARADISE. Let's stay in touch! Assalamu Alaikum! DEREK: O.K. Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu OK man, I'm feeling your pain. While we are talking about finding the tears of truth, here's some for you. el snippo LMMFAO!!!! Now you owe me a new keyboard and monitor!!!! -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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Mike said:
"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... wrote: *SOB* Today, somehow, somewhere, I lost my pocket knife. *SOB* It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Next? This begs the question: SHUDDER Why would your wife give you a knife to celebrate the birth of your son?????????????????????? /SHUDDER Why to cut the unbiblical cord, you silly boy. Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote in message ... Mike said: "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... wrote: *SOB* Today, somehow, somewhere, I lost my pocket knife. *SOB* It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Next? This begs the question: SHUDDER Why would your wife give you a knife to celebrate the birth of your son?????????????????????? /SHUDDER Why to cut the unbiblical cord, you silly boy. Greg G. They mustn't be religious. EG -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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Mike said:
"Greg G." wrote: Mike said: "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. This begs the question: SHUDDER Why would your wife give you a knife to celebrate the birth of your son?????????????????????? /SHUDDER Why to cut the unbiblical cord, you silly boy. They mustn't be religious. EG LMAO. I have no idea where that came from. Darned speel checker. Of course, that was supposed to be "umbilical". Greg G. |
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Look in the creases of the sofa, arm chair, etc. The last time I lost mine I didn't find it until I turned the recliner upside down to make a repair. -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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On Jan 11, 12:22*pm, Greg wrote:
They mustn't be religious. *EG LMAO. I have no idea where that came from. *Darned speel checker. Of course, that was supposed to be "umbilical". Damnit... you guys aren't helping me. Now I have more tears... I missed the joke because I didn't have my glasses on and didn't read the words correctly. (After a reread, it was pretty funny though.) Robert |
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J T said:
Wed, Jan 9, 2008, 12:11pm (EST-3) posted more of his usual drivel: And Allah saw that you are still posting, and tears poured down his cheeks as he found the truth - you're a dork troll. JOAT, you're a card. Things wouldn't be the same without you. Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote: As do I. Mostly because of where I live, though. Many years ago, an associate had to spend a week in Gainesville, GA, then the "Chickin Pickin Capitol" of the world. Upon his return, he mused, "If the world needs an enema, I know where the good lord will put the hose" Somehow, that thought seems still current when referring to the SE area of the US. As someone recently commented on the possibility of Pete Carroll, USC football coach, going to the Atlanta Falcons to become head coach, "Why would he go to Atlanta?" Seems like a valid question. Lew Lew |
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Lew Hodgett said:
"Greg G." wrote: As do I. Mostly because of where I live, though. Many years ago, an associate had to spend a week in Gainesville, GA, then the "Chickin Pickin Capitol" of the world. Upon his return, he mused, "If the world needs an enema, I know where the good lord will put the hose" Somehow, that thought seems still current when referring to the SE area of the US. As someone recently commented on the possibility of Pete Carroll, USC football coach, going to the Atlanta Falcons to become head coach, "Why would he go to Atlanta?" Seems like a valid question. Boy, I'll tell you - it's a hell of a situation to be in. I grew up here, born of transplanted parents. Atlanta used to be quite the exception to the rule for the south - very progressive. The current political climate combined with the influx of profiteers has damaged much of that. Engineers from MIT and Chicago had more of an influence over my youth than your average southerner. Most of my contacts and girlfriends were northern transplants due to the growing regional influence of "Terminus". My customers were mostly well educated, well-oiled CEO's and professors from the north and Europe. One of my friends from childhood is a microbiology prof at a TN college, another used to be the head of the nuclear physics department in Florida. Add a German/Canadian garage owner, a French shopkeeper, an Iranian mechanic, a fireman and an electronics tech from Afghanistan, and a couple of Indian programmers. Yet the first time I ventured out of the metro Atlanta area, I was appalled at the thinking, or lack thereof, that I found. It isn't that the people are evil, but they are fearful of the unknown, and not well educated. Being a white dude from GA, however, they would invite you to dinner, and take you fishing. Generally, they go to work and are honest. But inevitably, the classic stereotypes would rear their ugly heads. I know smart people and utter asshats of every color and nationality. If I could be considered a bigot about anything, it is arrogant, baseless xenophobia - and there is certainly a lot of that left here. It is still 1865 in many parts of the south, and these maggot southern politicos stoke and feed off of it. They used to call Atlanta the LA of the south, but it's seeming more like Lower Alabama these days... So, Lew, to (finally) answer your query, "For the money". (Or perhaps to participte in dog fights?) Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote: So, Lew, to (finally) answer your query, "For the money". (Or perhaps to participte in dog fights?) Carroll already gets a 6-8 figure annual package, complete control of the program and gets to live in SoCal. Doubt Blank can comde up with a package that would appeal to Carroll's ego, much less his pocket book. Lew |
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Lew Hodgett said:
"Greg G." wrote: So, Lew, to (finally) answer your query, "For the money". (Or perhaps to participte in dog fights?) Carroll already gets a 6-8 figure annual package, complete control of the program and gets to live in SoCal. Hmm... somewhere between $100,000 and $99,999,999? That's a pretty broad ambiguity on the salary, but you do have waaay better looking women out there. Smarter, too - some of 'em, anyway. Doubt Blank can comde up with a package that would appeal to Carroll's ego, much less his pocket book. His decision. I'm ambivalent to it. Pro sports absorb far too much peripheral tax money for my taste. Greg G. |
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"Greg G." wrote in message ... Mike said: Why to cut the unbiblical cord, you silly boy. They mustn't be religious. EG LMAO. I have no idea where that came from. Darned speel checker. Of course, that was supposed to be "umbilical". Greg G. Glad I could inject a little humor. Haven't posted here in awhile. Had another battle with The Big "C", which I emerged victorious.....again. -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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Mike wrote:
Glad I could inject a little humor. Haven't posted here in awhile. Had another battle with The Big "C", which I emerged victorious.....again. Way to go, Mike! I had a major battle two years ago, and the continuing minor skirmishes (as in skin). They keep snipping off small parts and one major part (a foot of colon), but I think I have enough left for a few more decades - at least that's the plan. Victory is sweet :-) |
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Mike wrote:
"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... wrote: *SOB* Today, somehow, somewhere, I lost my pocket knife. *SOB* It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Next? This begs the question: SHUDDER Why would your wife give you a knife to celebrate the birth of your son?????????????????????? /SHUDDER Now, now, don't get crazy here. The note that came with the knife was that every dad needs a pocket knife to show his son how to whittle. -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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Nova wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote: It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Look in the creases of the sofa, arm chair, etc. The last time I lost mine I didn't find it until I turned the recliner upside down to make a repair. Good news, it was found today. I lost it at work while sitting in a conference room chair. Someone found it and set it in a prominent place. Subtract two sobs from my diatribe. :-) -- If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough |
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"Greg G." wrote: Hmm... somewhere between $100,000 and $99,999,999? Somewhere around $5M with room to grow. After all, P Jackson gets over $10M from the Lakers. Carroll puts more fannies in the seats than Jackson. Pro sports absorb far too much peripheral tax money for my taste. They give new meaning to the term "Carpet bagger". Lew |
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"Mike" wrote in
: "Greg G." wrote in message ... Mike said: Why to cut the unbiblical cord, you silly boy. They mustn't be religious. EG LMAO. I have no idea where that came from. Darned speel checker. Of course, that was supposed to be "umbilical". Greg G. Glad I could inject a little humor. Haven't posted here in awhile. Had another battle with The Big "C", which I emerged victorious.....again. Good for ya. Hank |
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"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: "Mark & Juanita" wrote in message ... wrote: *SOB* Today, somehow, somewhere, I lost my pocket knife. *SOB* It was the knife my wife gave me more than 12 years ago when we found out were were going to have our son. *SOB* Next? This begs the question: SHUDDER Why would your wife give you a knife to celebrate the birth of your son?????????????????????? /SHUDDER Now, now, don't get crazy here. The note that came with the knife was that every dad needs a pocket knife to show how to whittle his son . Rearranging your last 5 words just caused me to spit hot coffee on my keyboard. :-) -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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"Doug Winterburn" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: Glad I could inject a little humor. Haven't posted here in awhile. Had another battle with The Big "C", which I emerged victorious.....again. Way to go, Mike! I had a major battle two years ago, and the continuing minor skirmishes (as in skin). They keep snipping off small parts and one major part (a foot of colon), but I think I have enough left for a few more decades - at least that's the plan. Victory is sweet :-) Thanks. -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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"Hank" wrote in message
.. . Why to cut the unbiblical cord, you silly boy. They mustn't be religious. EG LMAO. I have no idea where that came from. Darned speel checker. Of course, that was supposed to be "umbilical". Greg G. Glad I could inject a little humor. Haven't posted here in awhile. Had another battle with The Big "C", which I emerged victorious.....again. Good for ya. Hank Thanks. -- "Anybody can have more birthdays; but it takes balls to get old!" |
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