Ever leave paste wax (wiped on thin, but NOT wiped off) on your cast iron
tool tops (jointer, TS top etc.) in between projects? I know I won't be
starting anything else for a few weeks and I noticed a tiny rust spot on my
jointer. It was previously (a week or two prior) treated with paste wax
(wiped on and wiped off) and the rust still got me. I live in NC where it
does get a little humid in the summer months.

--
www.garagewoodworks.com

Yeah, it will get on your wood.

Use TopCote and forget about rust.

"GarageWoodworks" .@. wrote in message
...
Ever leave paste wax (wiped on thin, but NOT wiped off) on your cast iron
tool tops (jointer, TS top etc.) in between projects? I know I won't be
starting anything else for a few weeks and I noticed a tiny rust spot on
my jointer. It was previously (a week or two prior) treated with paste
wax (wiped on and wiped off) and the rust still got me. I live in NC
where it does get a little humid in the summer months.

--
www.garagewoodworks.com

"GarageWoodworks" .@. wrote in message
...
Ever leave paste wax (wiped on thin, but NOT wiped off) on your cast iron
tool tops (jointer, TS top etc.) in between projects? I know I won't be
starting anything else for a few weeks and I noticed a tiny rust spot on
my jointer. It was previously (a week or two prior) treated with paste
wax (wiped on and wiped off) and the rust still got me. I live in NC
where it does get a little humid in the summer months.


Yes, but I found Boeshield works better. So does Top Cote.

Yeah, it will get on your wood.

The idea would be to wipe it off before you start your next project.
Mineral spirits should help get most of it off.

Use TopCote and forget about rust.

Expensive and I wonder if it protect with the same longevity as paste wax
in between projects??



"GarageWoodworks" .@. wrote in message
...
Ever leave paste wax (wiped on thin, but NOT wiped off) on your cast iron
tool tops (jointer, TS top etc.) in between projects? I know I won't be
starting anything else for a few weeks and I noticed a tiny rust spot on
my jointer. It was previously (a week or two prior) treated with paste
wax (wiped on and wiped off) and the rust still got me. I live in NC
where it does get a little humid in the summer months.

--
www.garagewoodworks.com

Yes, but I found Boeshield works better. So does Top Cote.

Those are expensive alternatives.

"GarageWoodworks" writes:

Those are expensive alternatives.

Yes but it works, wax doesn't.

There ain't no free lunch.

Lew

Yes but it works, wax doesn't.

There ain't no free lunch.

Ahhhh, dog-gone it!!!



Lew

"GarageWoodworks" .@. wrote in message
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Yes, but I found Boeshield works better. So does Top Cote.

Those are expensive alternatives.


No. they are cheap in actual use. A can lasts for a couple of years and,
more important, it works better than wax. Your money, your tools, you can
wipe anything you want on it. Bacon fat will work too and save even more
money.

"GarageWoodworks" .@. wrote in message
...
Yeah, it will get on your wood.

The idea would be to wipe it off before you start your next project.
Mineral spirits should help get most of it off.

Use TopCote and forget about rust.

Expensive and I wonder if it protect with the same longevity as paste wax
in between projects??


Expensive? Not for what it does. Does it last, I have had 2 cans last 6 or
7 years.

But it attracts mice, wax doesn't
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
. net...

"GarageWoodworks" .@. wrote in message
...
Yes, but I found Boeshield works better. So does Top Cote.

Those are expensive alternatives.


No. they are cheap in actual use. A can lasts for a couple of years and,
more important, it works better than wax. Your money, your tools, you can
wipe anything you want on it. Bacon fat will work too and save even more
money.

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:10:47 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

Expensive and I wonder if it protect with the same longevity as paste wax
in between projects??


Expensive? Not for what it does. Does it last, I have had 2 cans last 6 or
7 years.

That's not been my experience.
I've been known to apply Top-Cote a couple of times a day under heavy
saw use. Other times I can go several days without another
application. I can't say I ever gone more that 4 or 5 days without an
application. Well....unless I'm on vacation.

Mike O.

"Mike O." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:10:47 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

Expensive and I wonder if it protect with the same longevity as paste
wax
in between projects??


Expensive? Not for what it does. Does it last, I have had 2 cans last 6
or
7 years.

That's not been my experience.
I've been known to apply Top-Cote a couple of times a day under heavy
saw use. Other times I can go several days without another
application. I can't say I ever gone more that 4 or 5 days without an
application. Well....unless I'm on vacation.

Mike O.

Then I would say you are wasting the product. What do you consider heavy
use? I recently cut up 15 sheets of plywood into probably 100 + pieces in
one day. I did not apply before or after the job.

"Mike O." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:52:23 -0500, "Leon"
wrote:


Then I would say you are wasting the product. What do you consider heavy
use? I recently cut up 15 sheets of plywood into probably 100 + pieces in
one day. I did not apply before or after the job.


Sometimes I'll cut 150 pieces of casing for a house full of doors and
I'll need to re-apply the product before I'm finished. The same thing
if I'm cutting stiles and rails for a kitchen. While you may think
I'm wasting the product I can certainly tell the difference after
re-applying the top-cote. Maybe I just prefer less friction.

Mike O.

I thought we were talking about how to prevent rust.

"Upscale" writes:

35 years ago when I bought my first table saw, Top-cote didn't exist and it
never occurred to me to use a paste wax, but I managed to cut a hell of a
lot of wood without realizing that I was suffering from friction fatigue.
It's your choice of course how often you apply the stuff, but conversations
like this make me realize just how lazy our society is becoming.

The ultimate goal: The wood cuts itself. :-)

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:18:38 -0400, "Upscale"
wrote:

35 years ago when I bought my first table saw, Top-cote didn't exist and it
never occurred to me to use a paste wax, but I managed to cut a hell of a
lot of wood without realizing that I was suffering from friction fatigue.
It's your choice of course how often you apply the stuff, but conversations
like this make me realize just how lazy our society is becoming.

Since I make my living standing at the saw (and have for some time) I
prefer the top to be as slick as I can get it. While you may consider
that to be lazy I consider it to be more safe and in fact more
productive. I've used about everything over the years and if I find
something that works better than Top-Cote, I'll be the first to
switch.

Mike O.

On Aug 16, 8:35 pm, Mike O. wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:18:38 -0400, "Upscale"
wrote:

35 years ago when I bought my first table saw, Top-cote didn't exist and it
never occurred to me to use a paste wax, but I managed to cut a hell of a
lot of wood without realizing that I was suffering from friction fatigue.
It's your choice of course how often you apply the stuff, but conversations
like this make me realize just how lazy our society is becoming.

LOL...inferring societal laziness from the way a guy lubes his table
saw! Someone should call Jon Winokur.

Since I make my living standing at the saw (and have for some time) I
prefer the top to be as slick as I can get it. While you may consider
that to be lazy I consider it to be more safe and in fact more
productive. I've used about everything over the years and if I find
something that works better than Top-Cote, I'll be the first to
switch.

Tope-Cote's what we use (liberally) too. Great stuff.

JP

"Jay Pique" wrote in message

Since I make my living standing at the saw (and have for some time) I
prefer the top to be as slick as I can get it. While you may consider
that to be lazy I consider it to be more safe and in fact more
productive. I've used about everything over the years and if I find
something that works better than Top-Cote, I'll be the first to
switch.

You've intentionally misinterpreted what I said. I use Top-Cote too, but
even with heavy usage it's never been necessary to reapply it several times
a day as he claimed to be doing. While it certainly does make it easier to
slide wood on an iron surface, it's not the absolute necessity that you
consider it to be. In another words it's a waste of time and effort to make
things a little easier in the end. The only real gain as far as time and
effort goes is in your mind. Your prerogative.

Sun, Aug 12, 2007, 12:09pm .@. (GarageWoodworks) doth queryeth:
Ever leave paste wax (wiped on thin, but NOT wiped off) on your cast
iron tool tops (jointer, TS top etc.) in between projects? snip*

This is related, kinda. I live in NC too.

I keep my wondernine handy. I check it every few days or so. It's
been fine normally, but a couple of weeks ago, I pulled it out and,
gasp, it had rust. Took it apart, used a cotton (mostly) sock with a
bit of Marvel Mystery Oil on it, and took care of the rust. Checked,
daily, for a couple of days, no prob. Than about the third day, gasp, a
small bit of rust starting again. Again, sock, oil. Apparently somehow
something wet got on/in the holster. Hmm. Cut the sock off about
halfway, a bit more Marvel Mystery Oil, slid the piece inside the sock,
then in the holster. Had to loosen the strap a fraction to get it to
snap properly, but have had no recurrence of rust. And it smalls nice
too.

I find that a drop or two of Marvel Mystery Oil on my router bit
bearing, before use, seems to greatly improve its life expectancy also.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 7:35pm (EDT-1) (Mike*O.) doth
sayeth:
Since I make my living standing at the saw (and have for some time) I
prefer the top to be as slick as I can get it. snip

Bottom line as far as I'm concerned. I know that if I was doing
this for a living I'd be doing a LOT of things different than I do now.

A lazy person is one who tries to do things right the first time,
so he doesn't have to redo them.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso