Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

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In article , trs80 wrote:

Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks




You'll have to do a little looking but www.osha.gov is a good start.


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"trs80" wrote in message
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Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks


Common sense should equate that loose clothing near power tools is not safe.

With that said, gloves are more dangerous around some tools than others.
Several years ago this topic came up and I performed an experiment with a TS
and a canvas/leather glove. I used a stick to push this glove into the
spinning blade several times. On no occasion did the blade grab the glove or
move the glove. The blade simply cut the glove as long as I pushed it into
the blade. When I stopped pushing the glove simply sat still with the blade
running through it. I got the same results with both the leather fingers
and the canvas cuff end of the glove. Having said that, I still do not
recommend using gloves around most power tools. Accidents can happen.

Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 6:55pm (EDT+4) (trs80) doth burble:
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

Yeah. I damnall sure value my body parts, so I don't wear gloves.
You make your own decision.



JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. I can't see my ass going to work today.

There was an episode of "American Chopper" where one of the employees got
his hand caught in a drill press. The cause was some loose string on the
gloves he was wearing getting caught in the drill bit. Sucked his hand in
quicker than anything and cut it up pretty good.

Leave the gloves off when near the things that spin. Unless you would rather
spend 4 hours in the ER rather than 4 minutes picking out splinters.

Allen
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Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

a loose glove fed by itself isn't too good at illustrating real world
in-use conditions.

consider the blade slowed to near stalling by a bound board, like
right before a kickback. add to that the glove being held stretched a
bit by your sweaty hands in contact with the wood and the potential
for unpredictable behavior from the objects in question go up a bit.

no gloves around machinery for *me*

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ps.com...
a loose glove fed by itself isn't too good at illustrating real world
in-use conditions.

consider the blade slowed to near stalling by a bound board, like
right before a kickback. add to that the glove being held stretched a
bit by your sweaty hands in contact with the wood and the potential
for unpredictable behavior from the objects in question go up a bit.

no gloves around machinery for *me*


I'll say again,

Having said that, I still do not
recommend using gloves around most power tools. Accidents can happen.

"Leon" wrote in message
.. .


I'll say again,

Having said that, I still do not
recommend using gloves around most power tools. Accidents can happen.



To qualify a bit more, it is not likely a spinning blade will pull a glove
in and especially if there is resistance. The glove is likely to be cut and
cut much easier than wood. I still don't recommend a glove around a TS as
the glove could get caught up on a guard, miter gauge, fence or what ever
and your natural pushing motion could be detoured into the blade.

More dangerous IMHO are gloves around a lathe, drill press, or OSSander.
Basically tools that can wind the glove up with you inside.

Gloves with a chainsaw, hammer drill, most portable sanders, etc.., not so
bad.

wrote in message
consider the blade slowed to near stalling by a bound board, like
right before a kickback. add to that the glove being held stretched a
bit by your sweaty hands in contact with the wood and the potential
for unpredictable behavior from the objects in question go up a bit.

no gloves around machinery for *me*

Gloves also increase the size of your hands too and alters your spatial
senses. That quck brush of a bare finger gets you closer with a glove over
it.

"Leon" wrote in
:



To qualify a bit more, it is not likely a spinning blade will pull a
glove in and especially if there is resistance. The glove is likely
to be cut and cut much easier than wood. I still don't recommend a
glove around a TS as the glove could get caught up on a guard, miter
gauge, fence or what ever and your natural pushing motion could be
detoured into the blade.

More dangerous IMHO are gloves around a lathe, drill press, or
OSSander. Basically tools that can wind the glove up with you inside.

Gloves with a chainsaw, hammer drill, most portable sanders, etc..,
not so bad.



What about bench grinders? To me, they seem to be a safer tool with
gloves than without.

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What about bench grinders? To me, they seem to be a safer tool with
gloves than without.

Let your gut feelings be your guide.

I have a friend that I call 9 fingers........NO GLOVES!!!!!!!
"trs80" wrote in message
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Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

I have a friend that I call 9 finger....NUF SAID!!!!
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thanks

Bench grinders and sanders (stationary) are the worst. Glove gets puled
between wheel and guard. Seen it a few times.

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What about bench grinders? To me, they seem to be a safer tool with
gloves than without.

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There was an episode of "American Chopper" where one of the employees got
his hand caught in a drill press. The cause was some loose string on the
gloves he was wearing getting caught in the drill bit. Sucked his hand in
quicker than anything and cut it up pretty good.


30 years ago a drill press caught me, but I was luckier. A long (metal) chip
whipped around and snagged the glove I was wearing. It *instantly* snatched the
glove right off my hand with tremendous force. It was like a magic trick. I can
still recall the feeling as I looked down at the glove spinning around the
table knowing that my hand should be in there.

--
Dennis

On Apr 18, 7:18�pm, (J T) wrote:
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 6:55pm (EDT+4) (trs80) doth burble:
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

* * *Yeah. *I damnall sure value my body parts, so I don't wear gloves.
You make your own decision.

JOAT
I have anal glaucoma. *I can't see my ass going to work today.

Years ago, I was helping edit a book for a major publisher: the photo
they had of someone using a circular saw (Skil saw type) was of
someone wearing one of those huge, cuffed gloves that are useful
handling materials on oil rigs and nowhere else. They actually argued
that it was SAFER that way, until I pointed out something that doesn't
apply to most of today's work gloves: the leather palms let things
slip very easily. Today, the immensely strong and durable fabrics are
the problem. If your glove gets snatched or grabbed, and you've got
that wrist strap secured (as it should be to keep it from getting
caught), then your hand is going with that glove into whatever did the
catching, be it shaper, jointer, drill press, table saw or whatever.

Use gloves for handling material. Operate machinery without gloves.
That includes feeding material into tools such as planers.

"trs80" wrote in message
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

Sad how the internet is taking the place of the brain these days. All the
documentation necessary should be between the woodworker's ears.

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:55:53 GMT, "trs80" wrote:

Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks


Use Google--there's a bundle out there. Besides that, most owner's
manuals state this in the safety section. If you want more evidence,
ask a firend who has worked at a hospital for a few years--lots of
stories to tell.

"Swingman" wrote in
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"trs80" wrote in message
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues
of wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power
tools? thanks

Sad how the internet is taking the place of the brain these days. All
the documentation necessary should be between the woodworker's ears.


Really? Hm... let's see. I'm using the table saw for the first time.
It's easy, right? Just push the wood into the blade. All the
documentation's between my ears, so let's go. OOMPH! *time passes, the
user recovers* Lucky for him, he put on goalie equipment before he
started. Unluckily for him, it was like taking a Bobby Hull slapshot
from only twenty feet.

It's often better to read documentation on the internet about how to use
the saw and what to avoid than it is to find out first hand. There are
things that happen to others that haven't happened yet to you but could
actually be worse.

No, you shouldn't wear gloves or be reading the documentation while
you're working, but at least have sense enough to read and remember what
you read.

Puckdropper
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"Swingman" wrote in


"trs80" wrote in message
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues
of wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power
tools? thanks

Sad how the internet is taking the place of the brain these days. All
the documentation necessary should be between the woodworker's ears.


Really? Hm... let's see. I'm using the table saw for the first time.

Don't look now but you dropped your puck ... the conversation and reply is
NOT about using table saws.

Refer to the subject line if in doubt.

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"Puckdropper" wrote in message

"Swingman" wrote in


"trs80" wrote in message
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety
issues of wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking
power tools? thanks

Sad how the internet is taking the place of the brain these days.
All the documentation necessary should be between the woodworker's
ears.


Really? Hm... let's see. I'm using the table saw for the first
time.

Don't look now but you dropped your puck ... the conversation and
reply is NOT about using table saws.

Refer to the subject line if in doubt.


Right. It's about wearing gloves and using power tools. Your reply was
about how users should know the stuff rather than using the Internet as a
repository of knowledge.

So, if I dropped the puck between the wrong two players, how did I do so?
1. A table saw is a power tool.
2. The example given applies directly to your reply about 'noin' stuff.
3. The guy's obviously using it wrong, something the issue of wearing
gloves while using power tools entails.
4. Usenet posts, just like real life conversations sometimes drift or
temporarily leave out all the elements first present in the converstion.


Puckdropper
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"Puckdropper" wrote in message

So, if I dropped the puck between the wrong two players, how did I do so?

Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

LOL ... might want to follow that advice.

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There are times when I wear "gloves" to do some tasks. I find that
wearing tight latex gloves can offer a better grip on some wood and
tools. I think grip is important when feeding stock into a bench
planer, TS, bench router, etc. Latex gloves still leave you a "feel"
and are thin enough so that if there is a chance of some bit being
caught up, it should rip through without pulling your hand in.

FoggyTown

On Apr 19, 4:58 pm, FoggyTown wrote:
There are times when I wear "gloves" to do some tasks. I find that
wearing tight latex gloves can offer a better grip on some wood and
tools. I think grip is important when feeding stock into a bench
planer, TS, bench router, etc. Latex gloves still leave you a "feel"
and are thin enough so that if there is a chance of some bit being
caught up, it should rip through without pulling your hand in.

FoggyTown

While I agree that I wouldn't wear gloves for all the reasons
mentioned. I was just reading a mag, might have been FW, and they
show somebody wearing gloves using the TS. They even pointed out that
they lessened the chance of kickback due to slippage.

As I said, I wouldn't do it.

-Jim

On Apr 19, 5:14�pm, jtpr wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:58 pm, FoggyTown wrote:

There are times when I wear "gloves" to do some tasks. *I find that
wearing tight latex gloves can offer a better grip on some wood and
tools. *I think grip is important when feeding stock into a bench
planer, TS, bench router, etc. *Latex gloves still leave you a "feel"
and are thin enough so that if there is a chance of some bit being
caught up, it should rip through without pulling your hand in.

FoggyTown

While I agree that I wouldn't wear gloves for all the reasons
mentioned. *I was just reading a mag, might have been FW, and they
show somebody wearing gloves using the TS. *They even pointed out that
they lessened the chance of kickback due to slippage.

As I said, I wouldn't *do it.

-Jim

LOL. When I've gotten kickback, the only "slippage" was between my
ears. Slippage. That's pure nonsense. Featherboards and push sticks,
not gloves.

"Leon" writes:



With that said, gloves are more dangerous around some tools than others.
Several years ago this topic came up and I performed an experiment with a TS
and a canvas/leather glove. I used a stick to push this glove into the
spinning blade several times. On no occasion did the blade grab the glove or
move the glove. The blade simply cut the glove as long as I pushed it into
the blade. When I stopped pushing the glove simply sat still with the blade

I'm damn sure not going to wear gloves after an incident on my CMS a few
years back.

I had on a pair of those cheapie canvas/leather gloves. The blade
caught the cuff of the glove and pulled it in slightly. I ended up not
getting hurt, but I damn sure had to check my undies.

Briasn Elfert

Puckdropper writes:

What about bench grinders? To me, they seem to be a safer tool with
gloves than without.

While not entirely the same, I always wear gloves with my angle grinder.
The sparks would burn my hands all up without them.

The grinder spins so fast I don't believe gloves or no gloves will matter.
A cutting or grinding wheel doesn't have teeth so less likely to grab a
glove.

Brian Elfert

In article .com,
Charlie Self wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:14?pm, jtpr wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:58 pm, FoggyTown wrote:

There are times when I wear "gloves" to do some tasks. I find that
wearing tight latex gloves can offer a better grip on some wood and
tools. I think grip is important when feeding stock into a bench
planer, TS, bench router, etc. \0Latex gloves still leave you a "feel"
and are thin enough so that if there is a chance of some bit being
caught up, it should rip through without pulling your hand in.

FoggyTown

While I agree that I wouldn't wear gloves for all the reasons
mentioned. \0I was just reading a mag, might have been FW, and they
show somebody wearing gloves using the TS. They even pointed out that
they lessened the chance of kickback due to slippage.

As I said, I wouldn't do it.

-Jim

LOL. When I've gotten kickback, the only "slippage" was between my
ears. Slippage. That's pure nonsense. Featherboards and push sticks,
not gloves.

Amen, Charlie.

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In article ,
---------------------
Brian Elfert wrote:

Puckdropper writes:

What about bench grinders? To me, they seem to be a safer tool with
gloves than without.

While not entirely the same, I always wear gloves with my angle grinder.
The sparks would burn my hands all up without them.

The grinder spins so fast I don't believe gloves or no gloves will matter.
A cutting or grinding wheel doesn't have teeth so less likely to grab a
glove.

Brian Elfert

A cylindrical solid steel shaft doesn't have teeth either, yet I can
personally attest that it can grab a glove and cause injury.

Please note that I am not arguing against your choice of wearing gloves
when operating the angle grinder, I suppose that might be reasonable though
when using one myself, I do not wear them.
--
Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

Brian Elfert wrote:
"Leon" writes:



With that said, gloves are more dangerous around some tools than others.
Several years ago this topic came up and I performed an experiment with a TS
and a canvas/leather glove. I used a stick to push this glove into the
spinning blade several times. On no occasion did the blade grab the glove or
move the glove. The blade simply cut the glove as long as I pushed it into
the blade. When I stopped pushing the glove simply sat still with the blade

I'm damn sure not going to wear gloves after an incident on my CMS a few
years back.

I had on a pair of those cheapie canvas/leather gloves. The blade
caught the cuff of the glove and pulled it in slightly. I ended up not
getting hurt, but I damn sure had to check my undies.

Briasn Elfert


One lingerie check is usually all it takes. I got 3 fingers (that's all
that would fit) pulled into a snag grinder many years ago. Fortunately
it was already spinning down. Somebody spoke to me, I turned the grinder
off, flipped open my face shield and grabbed for the grinder to change
hands while standing up.

That's all it took.

I've gotten 'pink spray' a couple of times since ... but the grinder
wanted the whole glove and-everything-in-it.

I'm not going to give a saw blade a chance.

Bill


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jtpr wrote:
They even pointed out that
they lessened the chance of kickback due to slippage.


Kickback happens because fences, blades, and splitters are poorly
aligned, along with a board that's able to rotate and catch a rising
tooth. "Slippage" has nothing to do with it.

With everything properly aligned, including a splitter, you can actually
stop and let go of the work. Nothing will happen if the splitter and/or
featherboards keep the work off the rising teeth.

A setup poorly enough aligned will overcome Kung-Fu grip on a saw with
enough power. G

On 19 Apr 2007 16:20:25 -0700, Charlie Self
wrote:

On Apr 19, 5:14?pm, jtpr wrote:
On Apr 19, 4:58 pm, FoggyTown wrote:

There are times when I wear "gloves" to do some tasks. find that
wearing tight latex gloves can offer a better grip on some wood and
tools. think grip is important when feeding stock into a bench
planer, TS, bench router, etc. atex gloves still leave you a "feel"
and are thin enough so that if there is a chance of some bit being
caught up, it should rip through without pulling your hand in.

FoggyTown

While I agree that I wouldn't wear gloves for all the reasons
mentioned. was just reading a mag, might have been FW, and they
show somebody wearing gloves using the TS. hey even pointed out that
they lessened the chance of kickback due to slippage.

As I said, I wouldn't $o it.

-Jim

LOL. When I've gotten kickback, the only "slippage" was between my
ears. Slippage. That's pure nonsense. Featherboards and push sticks,
not gloves.

I agree. Plus, working with an alert and clear mind will help
question procedures that can be done in a safer manner.

In article
"Swingman" writes:
"trs80" wrote in message
Can someone point to sources online that document the safety issues of
wearing gloves when using machinery or with woodworking power tools?
thanks

Sad how the internet is taking the place of the brain these days. All the
documentation necessary should be between the woodworker's ears.

For what it's worth: I like to think of myself as a reasonably
intelligent person, but one who is deeply inexperienced with power
tools. I took wood shop in 1975 and have forgotten most of it,
except the part about jointers taking off fingers. (Oh, and that
lathes are cool.)

This discussion has been very enlightening to me. Most of it
involves tools I don't have yet, or tools that I don't use gloves
with anyway, but it has answered some points that I've wondered
about in passing. But none of the substance of the discussion was
already between my ears when I started working on stuff a year or
so ago.


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in you than you are."
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"Swingman" wrote in
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"Drew Lawson" wrote in message

about in passing. But none of the substance of the discussion was
already between my ears when I started working on stuff a year or
so ago.

I stand corrected.

Just as with IQ in the general population, it's a good bet that half
the woodworker's instinctively know that wearing gloves around
woodworking machinery is not a good idea and are in no need of further
"documentation".

Making you absolutely correct for the remainder ...


Maybe it's an age thing...

I'm in my mid-50's. Growing up, I did a bunch of building and
construction activities with my dad, some for money, many for
charitable activities.

My wife and I raised 4 sons. We did as much as possible with the boys,
but not nearly as much as I did with my dad. My sons were deep into
sports and other great activities, but the 80's and the 60's were very
different decades.

I watch my eldest son in my shop today, and cringe. He's 33, and a
really bright fellow, but he's had no shop classes, built very few
buildings (or septic tank leach fields), and laid little to no concrete,
all staples of my youth.

But they are really good with equipment and systems that didn't really
exist in my youth.

And they love the same music I do.

Patriarch

"Drew Lawson" wrote in message

about in passing. But none of the substance of the discussion was
already between my ears when I started working on stuff a year or
so ago.

I stand corrected.

Just as with IQ in the general population, it's a good bet that half the
woodworker's instinctively know that wearing gloves around woodworking
machinery is not a good idea and are in no need of further "documentation".

Making you absolutely correct for the remainder ...

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like cloths....the music comes back in style. R&R will never die. But I
dont see (or hope) bell bottom pants come back. Love to see braless halter
tops in vogue again.

"Patriarch" wrote in message
. 136...
"Swingman" wrote in
:

"Drew Lawson" wrote in message

about in passing. But none of the substance of the discussion was
already between my ears when I started working on stuff a year or
so ago.

I stand corrected.

Just as with IQ in the general population, it's a good bet that half
the woodworker's instinctively know that wearing gloves around
woodworking machinery is not a good idea and are in no need of further
"documentation".

Making you absolutely correct for the remainder ...


Maybe it's an age thing...

I'm in my mid-50's. Growing up, I did a bunch of building and
construction activities with my dad, some for money, many for
charitable activities.

My wife and I raised 4 sons. We did as much as possible with the boys,
but not nearly as much as I did with my dad. My sons were deep into
sports and other great activities, but the 80's and the 60's were very
different decades.

I watch my eldest son in my shop today, and cringe. He's 33, and a
really bright fellow, but he's had no shop classes, built very few
buildings (or septic tank leach fields), and laid little to no concrete,
all staples of my youth.

But they are really good with equipment and systems that didn't really
exist in my youth.

And they love the same music I do.

Patriarch

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:34:48 GMT, "trs80" wrote:

like cloths....the music comes back in style. R&R will never die. But I
dont see (or hope) bell bottom pants come back. Love to see braless halter
tops in vogue again.

Were you not paying attention during the early years of this decade?
Bell-bottoms already came back, then went back out.

Oddly enough, I thought they were much more flattering this time
around, probably since they were being worn by lovely young women and
not, you know, Mom.

- Ken


"Patriarch" wrote in message
.136...
"Swingman" wrote in
:

"Drew Lawson" wrote in message

about in passing. But none of the substance of the discussion was
already between my ears when I started working on stuff a year or
so ago.

I stand corrected.

Just as with IQ in the general population, it's a good bet that half
the woodworker's instinctively know that wearing gloves around
woodworking machinery is not a good idea and are in no need of further
"documentation".

Making you absolutely correct for the remainder ...


Maybe it's an age thing...

I'm in my mid-50's. Growing up, I did a bunch of building and
construction activities with my dad, some for money, many for
charitable activities.

My wife and I raised 4 sons. We did as much as possible with the boys,
but not nearly as much as I did with my dad. My sons were deep into
sports and other great activities, but the 80's and the 60's were very
different decades.

I watch my eldest son in my shop today, and cringe. He's 33, and a
really bright fellow, but he's had no shop classes, built very few
buildings (or septic tank leach fields), and laid little to no concrete,
all staples of my youth.

But they are really good with equipment and systems that didn't really
exist in my youth.

And they love the same music I do.

Patriarch

In article ,
Patriarch wrote:

"Swingman" wrote in
:

"Drew Lawson" wrote in message

about in passing. But none of the substance of the discussion was
already between my ears when I started working on stuff a year or
so ago.

I stand corrected.

Just as with IQ in the general population, it's a good bet that half
the woodworker's instinctively know that wearing gloves around
woodworking machinery is not a good idea and are in no need of further
"documentation".

Making you absolutely correct for the remainder ...


Maybe it's an age thing...

Maybe. I'm about to roll to 48, and in shop at school I learned about
the risks of loose clothing, jewellery, watches, neckties, gloves, etc
in relation to power tools.

Teaching of shop declined seriously in the intervening years, to the
point that kids are graduating high school without knowing how to do
things I (and you) take for granted.

Most of them can't even make a watering can from a tomato juice can and
some sheet metal using snips, a brake, and a REAL soldering iron (the
kind that needs a torch).

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"Patriarch" wrote in message

Maybe it's an age thing...

You bet it is ... leaving me with little patience for coddling the male of
the species for any reason. If I'd had any sons, I'd bet that would have
wished I'd only had daughters, which I have.

(or septic tank leach fields)

That brought back memories. Raised on a small farm, digging 100' increments
of septic tank field lines was one of the punishments for my getting into
(frequent) trouble.

The other of Dad's "favorite" punishments, if it didn't warrant the
immediate laying on of a leather strap (or perhaps, and depending upon the
severity of the offense, in addition thereto), was digging post holes (there
were no gas operated post hole diggers in those days!) for so many feet of
fence.

This was in addition to feeding and haying twice a day (250 +/- rabbits, a
feed lot calf or two, 10 or so horses, the chickens, ducks and geese, and
various other critters), keeping two 1/2 acre gardens up to ideal,
maintaining the grass and flower beds on the 2 1/2 acres around the house,
and the never ending, daily mucking out of stalls ... all being just every
day stuff that was expected to "earn your keep".

In this day and age, the kid's themselves would call CPS!

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Second that - especially when metalworking in welding gloves - not as much
feel, you tend to rub up against the wheel too often, and as in kickback -
when it grabs - it all happens very quickly.

No gloves for me..

8.9.10. phew.

Mike
Brisbane Aus.


"CW" wrote in message
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Bench grinders and sanders (stationary) are the worst. Glove gets puled
between wheel and guard. Seen it a few times.

"Puckdropper" wrote in message
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What about bench grinders? To me, they seem to be a safer tool with
gloves than without.

Puckdropper
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