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Howdy all. I'm looking to take a few leaps upward from my Delta midi
that has served me so well for 4 years now. Learned everything I know on
that little machine but the time has come for more size, speed control,
precision, solidity and neanerbility.

Would have seriously considered a Serious Lathe had Bernie Mares
retained the company - but now I'm headed toward a Oneway.

Looking at the Oneway 1640 which would serve probably about 90% of what
I do at this stage in my development. I do have two ideas rattling
around that I'd like to explore and would likely need the 24" outboard
capability. Going with the 1640, 2 hp, fully equipped to turn outboard
would set me back about $4800.

Comparing to a 2036 & 2436, I could get one equally equipped (w/2 hp)
but with the addition of the 96 point indexing for $ $5225 and $5500,
respectively. That makes for a difference of: 1640:2036 = $425 and
1640:2436 = $700. This wouldn't allow outboard right off the bat but
would give me all the capability I'd ever need - plus, for the odd
outboard work, I would likely be able to borrow the outboard bed from a
friend.

Questions - Looking at the 1640 with outboard extension:

* Is there really enough support without a leg below the extension to
have no problems with vibration?

* What's the between centers distance with the tailstock riser in place?

Question:
Does it make any difference on where the lathe is ordered since everyone
has the same price? I suspect all of the dealers (Craft Supplies,
Packard and Woodcraft) have the lathe drop-shipped or whatever it's
called, in which the lathe is shipped directly from Oneway. Is there any
advantage ordering directly from Oneway or going through a non-local
dealer?

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll01/2001-36.htm
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Hi Owen!

I am a 2436 owner and unfortunately, cannot comment on the 1640. I can tell you that whatever you decide, it will be pretty much the last lathe you buy!

It really doesn't make a difference where you buy the lathe because the price will be the same no matter where you go. Keep in mind though, if you get it dropped off at a place like Woodcraft or similiar you will have to get it home. Not sure of your logistics, but something to keep in mind.

I ordered mine directly from Oneway and had it shipped to my house. The driver was nice and put it in my garage for me. from there, it was up to me to get it into my shop.

Now, for your questions regarding the 1640, best place to ask that is at the horse's barn itself! Try he

http://www.oneway.ca/forum/index.php

The guys at Oneway are great about answering questions about their lathes and other products.

Hope this helps a little

William

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Originally Posted by Owen Lowe
Howdy all. I'm looking to take a few leaps upward from my Delta midi
that has served me so well for 4 years now. Learned everything I know on
that little machine but the time has come for more size, speed control,
precision, solidity and neanerbility.

Would have seriously considered a Serious Lathe had Bernie Mares
retained the company - but now I'm headed toward a Oneway.

Looking at the Oneway 1640 which would serve probably about 90% of what
I do at this stage in my development. I do have two ideas rattling
around that I'd like to explore and would likely need the 24" outboard
capability. Going with the 1640, 2 hp, fully equipped to turn outboard
would set me back about $4800.

Comparing to a 2036 & 2436, I could get one equally equipped (w/2 hp)
but with the addition of the 96 point indexing for $ $5225 and $5500,
respectively. That makes for a difference of: 1640:2036 = $425 and
1640:2436 = $700. This wouldn't allow outboard right off the bat but
would give me all the capability I'd ever need - plus, for the odd
outboard work, I would likely be able to borrow the outboard bed from a
friend.

Questions - Looking at the 1640 with outboard extension:

* Is there really enough support without a leg below the extension to
have no problems with vibration?

* What's the between centers distance with the tailstock riser in place?

Question:
Does it make any difference on where the lathe is ordered since everyone
has the same price? I suspect all of the dealers (Craft Supplies,
Packard and Woodcraft) have the lathe drop-shipped or whatever it's
called, in which the lathe is shipped directly from Oneway. Is there any
advantage ordering directly from Oneway or going through a non-local
dealer?

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll01/2001-36.htm
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Al Kyder
 
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I have reevaluated my position on the Oneway. Get the big one. You have
my blessing.

God Bless,
Al Kyder

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Hello Owen,

If you are going to spend $4800 for a lathe that may not be quite large enough
in the near future, I would scrape up the additional $700 and get the most that
you'll ever need. I do not believe that Oneway will sell it to you any cheaper
than their dealers can. Bonnie Klein is a dealer, you might check with her on
any possible price break. I bought Mildred's Oneway 1018 from Bonnie. At the
time, she was the only one with one on order that had not been sold yet.
Bonnie's address will be in the AAW directory. Bonnie is in Redmond, Washington
and I'm sure she could have your machine drop shipped to your address.

Fred Holder
http://www.fholder.com/

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says...

Howdy all. I'm looking to take a few leaps upward from my Delta midi
that has served me so well for 4 years now. Learned everything I know on
that little machine but the time has come for more size, speed control,
precision, solidity and neanerbility.

Would have seriously considered a Serious Lathe had Bernie Mares
retained the company - but now I'm headed toward a Oneway.

Looking at the Oneway 1640 which would serve probably about 90% of what
I do at this stage in my development. I do have two ideas rattling
around that I'd like to explore and would likely need the 24" outboard
capability. Going with the 1640, 2 hp, fully equipped to turn outboard
would set me back about $4800.

Comparing to a 2036 & 2436, I could get one equally equipped (w/2 hp)
but with the addition of the 96 point indexing for $ $5225 and $5500,
respectively. That makes for a difference of: 1640:2036 = $425 and
1640:2436 = $700. This wouldn't allow outboard right off the bat but
would give me all the capability I'd ever need - plus, for the odd
outboard work, I would likely be able to borrow the outboard bed from a
friend.

Questions - Looking at the 1640 with outboard extension:

* Is there really enough support without a leg below the extension to
have no problems with vibration?

* What's the between centers distance with the tailstock riser in place?

Question:
Does it make any difference on where the lathe is ordered since everyone
has the same price? I suspect all of the dealers (Craft Supplies,
Packard and Woodcraft) have the lathe drop-shipped or whatever it's
called, in which the lathe is shipped directly from Oneway. Is there any
advantage ordering directly from Oneway or going through a non-local
dealer?


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Barry N. Turner
 
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Owen,

I think you're looking at a no-brainer here without even realizing it. If
you get a 1640 or a 2036 you're only one 16" bowl or one 20" bowl away from
wanting to turn a 24" bowl. Go for the 2436 and don't look back. $700? Is
that really all the difference there is? Go for it!

Barry


"Owen Lowe" wrote in message
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Howdy all. I'm looking to take a few leaps upward from my Delta midi
that has served me so well for 4 years now. Learned everything I know on
that little machine but the time has come for more size, speed control,
precision, solidity and neanerbility.

Would have seriously considered a Serious Lathe had Bernie Mares
retained the company - but now I'm headed toward a Oneway.

Looking at the Oneway 1640 which would serve probably about 90% of what
I do at this stage in my development. I do have two ideas rattling
around that I'd like to explore and would likely need the 24" outboard
capability. Going with the 1640, 2 hp, fully equipped to turn outboard
would set me back about $4800.

Comparing to a 2036 & 2436, I could get one equally equipped (w/2 hp)
but with the addition of the 96 point indexing for $ $5225 and $5500,
respectively. That makes for a difference of: 1640:2036 = $425 and
1640:2436 = $700. This wouldn't allow outboard right off the bat but
would give me all the capability I'd ever need - plus, for the odd
outboard work, I would likely be able to borrow the outboard bed from a
friend.

Questions - Looking at the 1640 with outboard extension:

* Is there really enough support without a leg below the extension to
have no problems with vibration?

* What's the between centers distance with the tailstock riser in place?

Question:
Does it make any difference on where the lathe is ordered since everyone
has the same price? I suspect all of the dealers (Craft Supplies,
Packard and Woodcraft) have the lathe drop-shipped or whatever it's
called, in which the lathe is shipped directly from Oneway. Is there any
advantage ordering directly from Oneway or going through a non-local
dealer?

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll01/2001-36.htm





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I thought Al was dead..................



"Owen Lowe" wrote in message
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Howdy all. I'm looking to take a few leaps upward from my Delta midi
that has served me so well for 4 years now. Learned everything I know on
that little machine but the time has come for more size, speed control,
precision, solidity and neanerbility.

Would have seriously considered a Serious Lathe had Bernie Mares
retained the company - but now I'm headed toward a Oneway.

Looking at the Oneway 1640 which would serve probably about 90% of what
I do at this stage in my development. I do have two ideas rattling
around that I'd like to explore and would likely need the 24" outboard
capability. Going with the 1640, 2 hp, fully equipped to turn outboard
would set me back about $4800.

Comparing to a 2036 & 2436, I could get one equally equipped (w/2 hp)
but with the addition of the 96 point indexing for $ $5225 and $5500,
respectively. That makes for a difference of: 1640:2036 = $425 and
1640:2436 = $700. This wouldn't allow outboard right off the bat but
would give me all the capability I'd ever need - plus, for the odd
outboard work, I would likely be able to borrow the outboard bed from a
friend.

Questions - Looking at the 1640 with outboard extension:

* Is there really enough support without a leg below the extension to
have no problems with vibration?

* What's the between centers distance with the tailstock riser in place?

Question:
Does it make any difference on where the lathe is ordered since everyone
has the same price? I suspect all of the dealers (Craft Supplies,
Packard and Woodcraft) have the lathe drop-shipped or whatever it's
called, in which the lathe is shipped directly from Oneway. Is there any
advantage ordering directly from Oneway or going through a non-local
dealer?

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll01/2001-36.htm



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"Al Kyder" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have reevaluated my position on the Oneway. Get the big one. You have
my blessing.

God Bless,
Al Kyder



Al seems to have been resurrected from death, and it's not even Easter.

Welcome back, Mr. Kyder.

Jeff


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In article ,
wrz0170 wrote:

I am a 2436 owner and unfortunately, cannot comment on the 1640. I
can tell you that whatever you decide, it will be pretty much the last
lathe you buy!

It really doesn't make a difference where you buy the lathe
because the price will be the same no matter where you go. Keep in
mind though, if you get it dropped off at a place like Woodcraft or
similiar you will have to get it home. Not sure of your logistics, but
something to keep in mind.

I ordered mine directly from Oneway and had it shipped to my
house. The driver was nice and put it in my garage for me. from
there, it was up to me to get it into my shop.

Now, for your questions regarding the 1640, best place to ask that
is at the horse's barn itself! Try he

http://www.oneway.ca/forum/index.php

The guys at Oneway are great about answering questions about their
lathes and other products.


I'm making a composite reply to not only your post above William, but
others who replied to the group as well as private email - you guys know
who you are.

OK! OK! I guess it does look sorta silly re-reading my post. For the
difference in lathe prices it wouldn't be that smart to pinch dollars on
the front end if down the road I feel the need to go through the selling
and ordering/shipping process and costs again. Especially since I have
design ideas in mind at the moment that would exceed the 16" capacity -
and making do has never been my style - much to my wife's consternation
(but Honey, when I asked you to marry me I picked the best of the
best.). Though I thought about being able to easily sell the 1640 if the
time came to up-size again, I don't think I'd like to face an inevitably
higher 2436 price several years down the road or the hard sell to the
spouse!

As to which dealer to buy from, I'm in a waiting mode for the local
Woodcraft to get back to me on whether the lathe would be eligible for
the 10% off sale next week - that will at least cover the shipping. Past
employees have said that it would qualify but the new owner may have
other beliefs. Then again, there's always the Eugene, OR, Woodcraft to
try if the Tigard one comes to a dead end.

Stubby Lathe: I seriously considered the Stubby, but I really do an
equal mix of spindle and bowl type turning. I'm also considering hanging
a shingle out for architectural and furniture turning jobs and think the
more traditional lathe design of the Oneways would better suit that
endeavor. Also, within a few seconds of effort I can think of at least 7
or 8 local Oneway owners/friends/acquaintances - should the need arise
to borrow an extension or try out a hollowing rig or something like that
it would be pretty easy to find the right person to beg.

I have done some very preliminary emailing with Kevin at Oneway. The
reason I didn't pose my 1640 questions to him was that I wanted an
owner's opinion rather than the company's. I know Oneway has some of the
best design and quality in the business and don't doubt their confidence
in the 24" capacity of the 1640. But this either says the 2436 is
over-designed and built or the 1640 is 24" capable but not particularly
designed to take that stress day in and day out.

Question: I've got my turnery in the basement of my old house (down a
narrow flight of stairs), do the Oneways easily disassemble to the basic
components - in other words, do the legs, bed tube and headstock
separate without major work to the electronics?

Question: Coming from a 3/4 HP (or is it 1HP?) Delta midi - I'm looking
at a 2 HP Oneway. If one is not turning 18"+ work from rough to finish
on a regular basis would the 2 HP be suitable or is the 3 HP the only
way to go? In what turning situations would one see the power difference?

thanks so much for the patience and help in taking this hugemongous step.

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Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll01/2001-36.htm
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In article . com,
"Al Kyder" wrote:

I have reevaluated my position on the Oneway. Get the big one. You have
my blessing.


Is it OK if I end up ordering it from Utah?

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Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
http://www.hanford.gov/lessons/sitell/ll01/2001-36.htm
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Owen Lowe wrote:

Question: Coming from a 3/4 HP (or is it 1HP?) Delta midi - I'm looking
at a 2 HP Oneway. If one is not turning 18"+ work from rough to finish
on a regular basis would the 2 HP be suitable or is the 3 HP the only
way to go? In what turning situations would one see the power difference?


Owen,

We have talked about the Delta Midi in the past and if yours is like
mine, it is a 1/2 HP the same as the Jet. As far as what is the best
choice, I have no idea. I guess as a last resort, size counts.

Good luck with the Oneway!

Harry


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On 20 Jul 2005 07:07:07 -0700, "Al Kyder"
wrote:

I have reevaluated my position on the Oneway. Get the big one. You have
my blessing.


Al, good to see you're still among the "living." I was just reading
over "Kyder's Log" the other day. Still waiting for the movie release
of that one.


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For 99% of us, 2 hp (with a vfd) is the way to go and if you need more
than that, you need to reevaluate your turning technique. The 3 hp
motor will give you the ability to slip the belt more but I suspect you
don't want that. To transmit the power from a 3 hp motor, you need to
consider two belts. Then you get into matching them and all sorts of
stuff you probably don't want to deal with.

That said, on occasion there is a production turner who works so fast
and aggressively that a 3 hp motor makes sense. I can't see any spindle
work which would require that kind of power no matter how aggressive,
though.

One person's opinion...

Bill

Harry Pye wrote:
Owen Lowe wrote:

Question: Coming from a 3/4 HP (or is it 1HP?) Delta midi - I'm
looking at a 2 HP Oneway. If one is not turning 18"+ work from rough
to finish on a regular basis would the 2 HP be suitable or is the 3 HP
the only way to go? In what turning situations would one see the power
difference?



Owen,

We have talked about the Delta Midi in the past and if yours is like
mine, it is a 1/2 HP the same as the Jet. As far as what is the best
choice, I have no idea. I guess as a last resort, size counts.

Good luck with the Oneway!

Harry

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Question: I've got my turnery in the basement of my old house (down a
narrow flight of stairs), do the Oneways easily disassemble to the basic
components - in other words, do the legs, bed tube and headstock
separate without major work to the electronics?


Talk to Kevin about this, before they came out with the 1224, I
considered a 2036 and asked Kevin about getting one into my basement. He
explained that if you can borrow, or rent an appliance cart, that it can
be done fairly easily. I don't remember the details, but he told me what
to remove, and how to load it on the cart.

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After reading my own message, I had another thought. What I said
assumes that you are using the right pulley combination -- little on
motor and big on spindle.

There was a Stubby owner (I can't remember the name and wouldn't use it
even if I did) who complained about lack of power at low speed on his
machine. Nobody thought, for some days of discussion, to ask the
question about which pulley he was using. There were lots of exotic
answers but the simple one just didn't come to mind.

Bill

Bill Rubenstein wrote:
For 99% of us, 2 hp (with a vfd) is the way to go and if you need more
than that, you need to reevaluate your turning technique. The 3 hp
motor will give you the ability to slip the belt more but I suspect you
don't want that. To transmit the power from a 3 hp motor, you need to
consider two belts. Then you get into matching them and all sorts of
stuff you probably don't want to deal with.

That said, on occasion there is a production turner who works so fast
and aggressively that a 3 hp motor makes sense. I can't see any spindle
work which would require that kind of power no matter how aggressive,
though.

One person's opinion...

Bill

Harry Pye wrote:

Owen Lowe wrote:

Question: Coming from a 3/4 HP (or is it 1HP?) Delta midi - I'm
looking at a 2 HP Oneway. If one is not turning 18"+ work from rough
to finish on a regular basis would the 2 HP be suitable or is the 3
HP the only way to go? In what turning situations would one see the
power difference?




Owen,

We have talked about the Delta Midi in the past and if yours is like
mine, it is a 1/2 HP the same as the Jet. As far as what is the best
choice, I have no idea. I guess as a last resort, size counts.

Good luck with the Oneway!

Harry

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In article ,
Dan Kozar wrote:

Talk to Kevin about this, before they came out with the 1224, I
considered a 2036 and asked Kevin about getting one into my basement. He
explained that if you can borrow, or rent an appliance cart, that it can
be done fairly easily. I don't remember the details, but he told me what
to remove, and how to load it on the cart.


Thank you Dan. I've got an email in to Kevin but I think they're pretty
busy getting things resettled after the Symposium. If need be I'll drop
him another email or phone call - hell, I've got 3 months before I need
the answer.

--
Owen Lowe

Northwest Woodturners,
Cascade Woodturners,
Pacific Northwest Woodturning Guild
___
Safety Tip'o'th'week: Never grind aluminum and steel or iron on the same
machine or workstation - Thermite.
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