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Your thoughts on build standard of 1950s council houses
As I am currently in such a property, and it is another of those
"built like a brick outhouse" properties, would people recommend them? (They are selling like hot cakes around here, as soon as they come on the market.) Mine has solid walls throughout. It's got a driveway and a decent-sized garden front and rear, in a quiet road. Just not where I want to live any more. So perhaps a similar house in my preferred area...? They don't look much from the outside, but there is not a trace of MDF in them (other than the bits I've added, like the worktop). They seem to be very solidly constructed and are excellent value for money. I even like the slimline Crittall windows! MM |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:49:46 +0100, Mike Mitchell
wrote: As I am currently in such a property, and it is another of those "built like a brick outhouse" properties, would people recommend them? (They are selling like hot cakes around here, as soon as they come on the market.) Mine has solid walls throughout. It's got a driveway and a decent-sized garden front and rear, in a quiet road. Just not where I want to live any more. So perhaps a similar house in my preferred area...? They don't look much from the outside, but there is not a trace of MDF in them (other than the bits I've added, like the worktop). They seem to be very solidly constructed and are excellent value for money. I even like the slimline Crittall windows! MM Why not keep the current one and use it as an investment property, and then purchase your choice of house in another area...... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Your thoughts on build standard of 1950s council houses
As I am currently in such a property, and it is another of those
"built like a brick outhouse" properties, would people recommend them? They are very variable. Sometimes they are excellent, sometimes they are terrible, built with crumbly concrete, or those blocks made from straw. Sounds like you have the former. Local knowledge, a good surveyor, or a good eye for constructional detail are required with viewing. Christian. |
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Your thoughts on build standard of 1950s council houses
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:47:01 +0100, Mark
wrote: Mine's coalboard not council but same thing. Solid poured concrete walls - very very solid. Had some problems with them taking it to mean pre-fab when it's not. Walls are square and at right angles to each other, original roof in good condition, reasonable front/back garden, drive, space for garage, good sized rooms. The only problem I've found is the years of bodging by previous owners and the general state of things that need bringing up to todays standards. The shell of the house is fine but the fixtures and fittings all need replacing. As regards selling like hot cakes any round here that go on the market are sold within a week or two at most. You are hard pressed to find housing you can afford that has off road parking never mind anything else from looking round. Mark S. BTW, did you manage to remove your roof tank, Mark? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Your thoughts on build standard of 1950s council houses
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 21:26:10 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote: On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:47:01 +0100, Mark wrote: Mine's coalboard not council but same thing. Solid poured concrete walls - very very solid. Had some problems with them taking it to mean pre-fab when it's not. Walls are square and at right angles to each other, original roof in good condition, reasonable front/back garden, drive, space for garage, good sized rooms. The only problem I've found is the years of bodging by previous owners and the general state of things that need bringing up to todays standards. The shell of the house is fine but the fixtures and fittings all need replacing. As regards selling like hot cakes any round here that go on the market are sold within a week or two at most. You are hard pressed to find housing you can afford that has off road parking never mind anything else from looking round. Mark S. BTW, did you manage to remove your roof tank, Mark? .andy Still there at the minute... I'm not going in the loft at the moment - it's hotter than hell up there. ;-) Mark S. |
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On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:36:31 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Mine's coalboard not council but same thing. Solid poured concrete walls - very very solid. Had some problems with them taking it to mean pre-fab when it's not. Walls are square and at right angles to each other, original roof in good condition, reasonable front/back garden, drive, space for garage, good sized rooms. A lot of these in my area were built using a red shale as a base for the concrete floor and the old NCB were wise in selling them to the council as now many of them need the floors ripping up and replacing. Adam I dug the top skim off, sealed it and self leveled it. I know it's a "bodge" but it one I'm living with as I seriously cannot afford the time/effort/hassle/money to dig out the downstairs floors to relay them when and if I re-sell no one would question the under floor arrangements. Anyone had a buyers survey done where the carpets/flooring were even touched nevermind lifted? Mark S. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:01:59 +0100, Mark
wrote: Anyone had a buyers survey done where the carpets/flooring were even touched nevermind lifted? When my parents sold their '30s semi, the survey suggested that there was rot in the downstairs floorboards. Except that it was a solid concrete floor... |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:01:59 +0100, Mark wrote: Anyone had a buyers survey done where the carpets/flooring were even touched nevermind lifted? When my parents sold their '30s semi, the survey suggested that there was rot in the downstairs floorboards. Except that it was a solid concrete floor... Tell me about it! I bought a house and the surveyor said that a) it had mains drainage and gas. The top of the septic tank was clearly visible in the garden and there is no gas within ten miles of here! b) he said it was built in the 1930's. It was built in 1960 ( and we had all the planning apps and plans to prove it) c) he said an extension at the far end was wood framed and 1980's. It was early 1970's and was brick and block construction. It fact there was so little he got right I wondered if he had actually surveyed the right house!. The same company surveyed my 1950's ex council property too. Similar catalogue of mistakes . I had a b*gger of a job selling the house btw. It was poured concrete and built like the proverbial ( rock hard) but because it was "non traditional build" buyers had difficulty getting mortgages. That coupled with the surveyors report which said wrongly that it had a corroded frame. There was nothing wrong with the "frame" and to boot there wasnt any evidence of there being anything wrong with its structure either! Be aware. |
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"Mich" wrote in message ... "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:01:59 +0100, Mark I had a b*gger of a job selling the house btw. It was poured concrete and built like the proverbial ( rock hard) but because it was "non traditional build" buyers had difficulty getting mortgages. That coupled with the surveyors report which said wrongly that it had a corroded frame. There was nothing wrong with the "frame" and to boot there wasnt any evidence of there being anything wrong with its structure either! Be aware. Having said all of that. In my experience most of the council houses built in the 1950s are very well built and my house was lovely. large rooms and garden and in a good location ( one of the best in town). It was a good all round genuine house with no construction or finish problems. Certainly a far better buy than those new houses you get now. |
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Your thoughts on build standard of 1950s council houses
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 08:36:01 +0100, "Mich"
wrote: I had a b*gger of a job selling the house btw. It was poured concrete and built like the proverbial ( rock hard) but because it was "non traditional build" buyers had difficulty getting mortgages. I don't think we have poured concrete council houses down here (home counties). These houses on this estate are standard block/brick construction and, like I said, they are very sought after because they are considered to be so solidly built, roomy, and often have quite large gardens. Plus, the stigma makes them an affordable buy for first-timers when even a terraced house can command a higher price (go figure!). I reckon when the Londoners were moved here after the war they must have felt like they were entering some kind of Shangri-la. So I have absolutely no worries about selling mine when the time comes. MM |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 08:55:03 +0100, "Mich"
wrote: Having said all of that. In my experience most of the council houses built in the 1950s are very well built and my house was lovely. large rooms and garden and in a good location ( one of the best in town). It was a good all round genuine house with no construction or finish problems. Certainly a far better buy than those new houses you get now. Hey, you took all those words right out of my own mouth! MM |
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Hello Martin Angove, in message on Sun, 10 Aug 2003 you wrote: In the process of buying a 1930s/40s ex council house. Not mortgage company involved, so we employed a "friendly" builder/NHBC inspector to take a look around. He has suggested that the concrete floor should be replaced, simply because "they didn't use a damp proof membrane in those days - though it looks fine at the moment". Doesn't sound like a hugely expensive job, but will mean (if we decide to do it) a couple of weeks living with the parents :-/ Might be worth a localised investigation before you go to the expense of ripping up the whole floor. I had a concrete floor replaced in my similarly aged house after knocking two rooms into one, and finding the floor levels were different in each room. The original floors had a "DPM" of bitumen between the base and top screed. OTOH, even if it has none, if it's not damp, why bother to touch it? -- Phil |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:59:51 +0100, Martin Angove
wrote: He has suggested that the concrete floor should be replaced, simply because "they didn't use a damp proof membrane in those days - though it looks fine at the moment". Damp proof membranes have been used since the Victorians (slate, blue brick, bitumen). They weren't stupid, even if they didn't have convenient rolls of plastic stuff to use. If it looks dry, then leave it alone. If it's dry, then chances are there's a layer of bitumen poured underneath there somewhere. |
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Your thoughts on build standard of 1950s council houses
Council houses sell well not because of the quality of construction,
but rather that you can get them relatively cheap and be able to make a tidy profit at sale time. Condensation and [lack of central] heating tend to be the main concerns. However the BRE has noted a number of construction problems with the majority of system built properties. In the few thousand that we manage, lifestyle and location (ie north facing main elevations or direction of prevelent winds) can have a dramatic impact on internal comfort and problems. Bracing to roof trusses, movement in raft foundations, movement in concrete wall panels, and internal box gutters are other commen problem areas. dg Mike Mitchell wrote in message . .. As I am currently in such a property, and it is another of those "built like a brick outhouse" properties, would people recommend them? (They are selling like hot cakes around here, as soon as they come on the market.) Mine has solid walls throughout. It's got a driveway and a decent-sized garden front and rear, in a quiet road. Just not where I want to live any more. So perhaps a similar house in my preferred area...? They don't look much from the outside, but there is not a trace of MDF in them (other than the bits I've added, like the worktop). They seem to be very solidly constructed and are excellent value for money. I even like the slimline Crittall windows! MM |
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Ca I I fill in the the air vents in my 1950s council built house to help with cold walls
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On 13/01/2021 19:15, Lilly ozzy1942 wrote:
Ca I I fill in the the air vents in my 1950s council built house to help withÂ* cold walls You get so much hot air from Home Owners Hub, your walls should be roasting |
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On 13/01/2021 19:15, Lilly ozzy1942 wrote:
Ca I I fill in the the air vents in my 1950s council built house to help withÂ* cold walls You can if you want but it won't help the cold walls and will probably give you additional condensation problems to contend with. Cavity wall insulation might help if it isn't already installed. Some cowboys doing cavity wall insulation in the late 70's early 80's managed to use dodgy material that is now absorbing water and bridging the air gap and penetrating damp to the inner wall. Might be worth seeing if that is the problem. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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