The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

I haven't fitted a 'Fluidmaster Push Button' kit but I did fit a
'Fluidmaster low noise' kit. The push button one comprises of almost the
same components.

Was a doddle to fit.
Turned of mains water supply
Flushed toilet to drain existing cistern
Laid down old blankets and sheets to soak the majority of the water
still in cistern
Undid the plastic nut connecting the flush pipe to the cistern (don't
know the nuts technical name)
Gained one pair of wet trousers
Removed the innards of the cistern
Replaced with kit
Tightened plastic nut
Turned on mains water
Did a test flush
Turned down flush volume by adjusting stopper after water lept out of
the pan

Job done

I'd never messed with toilets and their workings before, would say the job
took less than 30 minutes.

Hope this helps.

Seri

"Alan Campbell" wrote in message
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The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

"Seri" wrote in message
.. .
I haven't fitted a 'Fluidmaster Push Button' kit but I did fit a
'Fluidmaster low noise' kit. The push button one comprises of almost the
same components.

Was a doddle to fit.
....
Laid down old blankets and sheets to soak the majority of the water
still in cistern

If you get a suitable length of plastic tube (B&Q sell it in lengths), then
you can syphon practically all the water out.

Ben

"Alan Campbell" wrote in message
om...
The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

I bought one of these a while back with a view to retrofitting all my
cisterns.

Problem - all my cisterns are ceramic, and the hole where the button goes
(the ex-handle hole) was smaller than the thread on the button - by about
3mm.

All three of my cisterns are the same - 2 Ideal and 1 Baltocks (? sp.).

Had to take mine back for a refund as I was not going to chance opening up
the holes in ceramic!

Worth checking before you buy.

Dave

Alan Campbell wrote:
I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

Yes it was a doddle to fit. The only tip I can give is - if you need to bend
the brass rod, get it roughly right outside the cistern then fine-tune it
after fitting (unless you have strong hands).
Also you might want to increase the flush volume dial - ours came set half
way ("5" I think) which, without going into graphic detail, wasn't enough.
"7" seems to equate to a normal syphonic flush.

--
Laurie R

On 31 Mar 2004 04:40:14 -0800, (Alan
Campbell) wrote:

The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

Halfords sell a small vial called "Nutlock". You put this on a thread
and then tighten the nut over it, it cures and the nut doesn't come
loose.

If you need to undo the nut the Nutlock will break free no problem
under a bit of duress.

A dab of gloss paint on a thread can achieve much the same result.

PoP

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"Alan Campbell" wrote in message
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The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

I have one of these, very easy to fit, but 2 and 4 year olds might have
trouble pushing the button hard enough.

In article ,
Dave Gibson wrote:

Problem - all my cisterns are ceramic, and the hole where the button goes
(the ex-handle hole) was smaller than the thread on the button - by about
3mm.

My dad had this problem when he tried to fit one - 30 seconds with my
dremel cured it :-)

Another one of those tiny jobs that the dremel is brilliant at. There aren't
many but it is dead handy at times.

Darren

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"Alan Campbell" wrote in message
om...
The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

I have one of these, very easy to fit, but 2 and 4 year olds might have
trouble pushing the button hard enough.

How quiet is the new Fluidmaster.

"Seri" wrote in
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I fitted one and I like it a lot, but I'm a bit concerned (as I'm on a
meter) about it failing to shut after flushing.

Admittedly it only happened while adjusting on test, but the valve remained
partially open and allowed a good flow of water to run away.

I'm considering going back to a siphon if I can find a good one.

mike r

"mike ring" wrote in message
52.50...
"Seri" wrote in
:

I fitted one and I like it a lot, but I'm a bit concerned (as I'm on a
meter) about it failing to shut after flushing.

Admittedly it only happened while adjusting on test, but the valve
remained
partially open and allowed a good flow of water to run away.

I'm considering going back to a siphon if I can find a good one.

mike r

You can have a anti-flood device on the water inlet pipe, similar to what
they have on washing machines and dishwashers. When the flow is too great
is shuts off. So if your flap does sit well and lost of water of going down
the toilet it will shut off.

See:
http://www.bes.ltd.uk/products/101.asp
part No. 13756

Water block is a flood protection system designed to offer a safety device
against accidental flooding without the need for electricity. Incorporating
a mechanical water meter, it monitors a preset volume of water, when the
preset is exceeded the unit will close off the water supply.The re-set
device is needed to re-set the water block after the unit has been activated
by excess water flow. Fitted with an integral filter system. Can be preset
between 5 and 50 litres/minute WRc and TUV approved.

Burst pressure : 50 bar
Max. working pressure : 10 bar
Max. preset volume : 50 litres/minute
Min. working flow : 1.5 +/- 0.5 litres/minute
Max. water temperature : 70 °C
Life expectancy: 300 000 litres
Threads: 3/4" BSP F x 3/4" BSP M
Worth putting on washing machines and dishwashers.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:19:12 +0100, "IMM" wrote:



You can have a anti-flood device on the water inlet pipe, similar to what
they have on washing machines and dishwashers. When the flow is too great
is shuts off. So if your flap does sit well and lost of water of going down
the toilet it will shut off.

See:
http://www.bes.ltd.uk/products/101.asp
part No. 13756

Water block is a flood protection system designed to offer a safety device
against accidental flooding without the need for electricity. Incorporating
a mechanical water meter, it monitors a preset volume of water, when the
preset is exceeded the unit will close off the water supply.The re-set
device is needed to re-set the water block after the unit has been activated
by excess water flow. Fitted with an integral filter system. Can be preset
between 5 and 50 litres/minute WRc and TUV approved.

Burst pressure : 50 bar
Max. working pressure : 10 bar
Max. preset volume : 50 litres/minute
Min. working flow : 1.5 +/- 0.5 litres/minute
Max. water temperature : 70 °C
Life expectancy: 300 000 litres
Threads: 3/4" BSP F x 3/4" BSP M
Worth putting on washing machines and dishwashers.


One small problem with these is that the reset is done by pressing a
plunger that is in the axis of the valve.

This means dismantling the plumbing when it operates......



..andy

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(Alan Campbell) wrote in
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The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.


It's always puzzled me why the mechanism is plastic - it's bound to fall
apart in no time because loos are subject to high usage. Why not make them
from brass?? You have to wonder about the designers some companies employ.
My loo handle only works if you hold the very tip of the handle - it's
quite a skill to achieve a successful flush It's beyond repair.

--
john

"Technology is dominated by two types of people: those who understand what
they do not manage, and those who manage what they do not understand." -
Putt's Law

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"Alan Campbell" wrote in message
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The handles on our toilets keep working loose. Might be something to
do with the kids (2 & 4) yanking them up and down when they are trying
to flush the loo. I keep re-tightening the plastic nut, but a couple
of weeks later its loose again and the handle is flopping about.

I noticed a fluid master push button toilet conversion kit at Homebase
the other day and was wondering if they really are easy to fit. The
blurb on the box makes it look simple enough, but I was wondering if
anyone had done it and if they had any tips on possible problems.

TIA

Alan

I have one of these, very easy to fit, but 2 and 4 year olds might have
trouble pushing the button hard enough.

How quiet is the new Fluidmaster.


Better than the previous, but that was a wall mounted 1960's Niagara falls
jobbie!