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In message , IMM writes
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Dave writes I've always used soldered joints but am being tempted by the Tectite push-fit range for a heating re-furb I'm about to embark on - maybe even plastic pipe rather than copper! How long have they been around? Any horror stories? Are there any other competing ranges I should consider? IS your name DIMM ? no? Should be OK then Maxie, is Dim Lin, the far eastern luscious lovely, that bad? No idea DIMM Fuk, she's your sister, you should know Maxie, you still want be a part of my kith n kin. Sorry, your world is deviating from the real one again, you've been sniffing coca cola again, haven't you -- geoff |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Aidan wrote: If you take the trouble to read the 'feuds', plenty of good information comes out of them. A word of advice. Learn how to use a killfile. Why, thank you, kind sir, for your wise and avuncular advice. I do not want to read the feuds, they are not relevant. I do not want to know what a killfile is. I did want to know peoples' opinions on push-fit plumbing; that is why I was reading a thread entitled 'Push-fit Plumbing - any good?' There were about 66 threads. Were they all about push-fit plumbing? No. The feud kicked off at about post No.8, and it is still continuing, something along the lines of; Nah! Nah!! Nah nah na-na-Nahhh! What do you expect?. Pay peanuts, and get IMM. Just how much DID you pay to join this group anyway? Take no notice of this one, he has a problem. |
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"raden" wrote in message news In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes What incident was that? http://tinyurl.com/42ke4 Surely you remember..... No incident with an hacksaw. the hacksaw worked perfectly. So the other adage of a poor workman blaming his tools applies then... You must learn to read properly. What, ... trivial things like instructions? Maxie, no tools were blamed at all.... Au contraire, you came in for a great deal of flak Maxie, as I know more about these things than anyone on this ng, no tools were blamed, only the fitting. DIM, you are the tool who did the "fitting" Maxie, the fitting was not done over. It was treated with respect. |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , Dave writes I've always used soldered joints but am being tempted by the Tectite push-fit range for a heating re-furb I'm about to embark on - maybe even plastic pipe rather than copper! How long have they been around? Any horror stories? Are there any other competing ranges I should consider? IS your name DIMM ? no? Should be OK then Maxie, is Dim Lin, the far eastern luscious lovely, that bad? No idea DIMM Fuk, she's your sister, you should know Maxie, you still want be a part of my kith n kin. Sorry, your world is deviating from the real one again, you've been sniffing coca cola again, haven't you Maxie, how is your problem? |
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:13:00 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
Maxie, as I know more about these things than anyone on this ng, no tools were blamed, only the fitting. DIM, you are the tool who did the "fitting" Maxie, the fitting was not done over. It was treated with respect. Sort of like "I promise I'll respect you in the morning"........ ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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In message , IMM writes
You must learn to read properly. What, ... trivial things like instructions? Maxie, no tools were blamed at all.... Au contraire, you came in for a great deal of flak Maxie, as I know more about these things than anyone on this ng, no tools were blamed, only the fitting. DIM, you are the tool who did the "fitting" Maxie, the fitting was not done over. It was treated with respect. Sounds like it was well done over by the time you'd finished with it -- geoff |
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: What incident was that? http://tinyurl.com/42ke4 Surely you remember..... No incident with an hacksaw. the hacksaw worked perfectly. Do you think that next time you could learn to read the instructions you blithering amateur? Oh a mentalist! |
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In message , IMM writes
Sorry, your world is deviating from the real one again, you've been sniffing coca cola again, haven't you Maxie, how is your problem? Well, you're mentally retarded, practically useless, theoretically in a different universe, and still posting next question? -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes You must learn to read properly. What, ... trivial things like instructions? Maxie, no tools were blamed at all.... Au contraire, you came in for a great deal of flak Maxie, as I know more about these things than anyone on this ng, no tools were blamed, only the fitting. DIM, you are the tool who did the "fitting" Maxie, the fitting was not done over. It was treated with respect. Sounds like it was well done over by the time you'd finished with it No Maxie, it didn't sound like that at all. |
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:00:45 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message . .. IMM wrote: What incident was that? http://tinyurl.com/42ke4 Surely you remember..... No incident with an hacksaw. the hacksaw worked perfectly. Do you think that next time you could learn to read the instructions you blithering amateur? Oh a mentalist! - 'mentalist' was September's word - twin combis was September's solution - Alpha CB50s were September's boiler-of-the-month It's October now. You need to do a new IPL,. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes Sorry, your world is deviating from the real one again, you've been sniffing coca cola again, haven't you Maxie, how is your problem? Well, you're mentally retarded, practically useless, theoretically in a different universe, and still posting next question? Maxie, you are resorting to 100% mentalism now. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 23:00:45 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Steve Firth" wrote in message . .. IMM wrote: What incident was that? http://tinyurl.com/42ke4 Surely you remember..... No incident with an hacksaw. the hacksaw worked perfectly. Do you think that next time you could learn to read the instructions you blithering amateur? Oh a mentalist! - 'mentalist' was September's word - twin combis was September's solution No, they are always a solution. - Alpha CB50s were September's boiler-of-the-month It's October now. You need to do a new IPL,. I do? |
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raden wrote:
We're not all here just for your benefit, why not go and start your own NG and stop wingeing We're not?? Bugger, wish someone had told me. -- Grunff |
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In message , IMM writes
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes You must learn to read properly. What, ... trivial things like instructions? Maxie, no tools were blamed at all.... Au contraire, you came in for a great deal of flak Maxie, as I know more about these things than anyone on this ng, no tools were blamed, only the fitting. DIM, you are the tool who did the "fitting" Maxie, the fitting was not done over. It was treated with respect. Sounds like it was well done over by the time you'd finished with it No Maxie, it didn't sound like that at all. Does to me -- geoff |
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In message , Grunff
writes raden wrote: We're not all here just for your benefit, why not go and start your own NG and stop wingeing We're not?? Bugger, wish someone had told me. Keep up ... -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes "raden" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes You must learn to read properly. What, ... trivial things like instructions? Maxie, no tools were blamed at all.... Au contraire, you came in for a great deal of flak Maxie, as I know more about these things than anyone on this ng, no tools were blamed, only the fitting. DIM, you are the tool who did the "fitting" Maxie, the fitting was not done over. It was treated with respect. Sounds like it was well done over by the time you'd finished with it No Maxie, it didn't sound like that at all. Does to me Maxie, you have hearing problems as well. Get yourself sorted, you are a basket case. |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... snip Maxie, you have hearing problems as well. Get yourself sorted, you are a basket case. I've told you about this before, IMM, stop talking to yourself - they say it's the first sign of madness... |
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raden, AH & others wrote in several messages;
"You're very welcome. It comes from years of experience in reading newsgroups." That seems to have gone way over your head. "The signal to noise ratio on UK.D-I-Y is actually pretty good in comparison to some others." Signal to noise ratio is probably about 1:5 in the case of this thread, or about 1:10 in the case of your own contributions to it. What, are there other idiots ruining other UK newsgroups, in the way that you, IMM and others are ruining this one? Or, is it the same idiots? "There isn't a game to play or to win. Simply debates around various topics." In this case, the topic was supposed to be push-fit plumbing. If you want to slag each other off, why don't you start a dedicated thread for that purpose and post a link to it as required? "Did you have anything to contribute on the subject of DIY at all?" I may have had. One of the significant (IMHO) features of the push-fit systems hasn't yet been mentioned, while a quick check on the JG website has raised another question which I intend to research further on the other manufacturers' web-sites. Whether my views would be of any interest, would be another question. My opinions are based around trade & professional HVAC/Engineering qualifications, 20+ years design experience and 3+ years installation & maintenance experience. However, no-one is going to sift through all the garbage to read the few posts that are about push-fit plumbing so there's no point in posting my views in a thread which, despite it's title, is mainly about your vendetta. "We're not all here just for your benefit" No, we're not. I'd thought we were here to discuss push-fit stuff for the benefit of anyone who cared to read it. "learn to live with it or take your leave" Yes. I wonder who else you've deterred. We may never care. Finish. |
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"Aidan" wrote in message om... raden, AH & others wrote in several messages; "You're very welcome. It comes from years of experience in reading newsgroups." That seems to have gone way over your head. "The signal to noise ratio on UK.D-I-Y is actually pretty good in comparison to some others." IMM and others are ruining this one? How dare you! I add value on this thread. You must read all my posts 3 times. "There isn't a game to play or to win. Simply debates around various topics." In this case, the topic was supposed to be push-fit plumbing. If you want to slag each other off, why don't you start a dedicated thread for that purpose and post a link to it as required? They should do. "Did you have anything to contribute on the subject of DIY at all?" I may have had. One of the significant (IMHO) features of the push-fit systems hasn't yet been mentioned, while a quick check on the JG website has raised another question which I intend to research further on the other manufacturers' web-sites. Whether my views would be of any interest, would be another question. My opinions are based around trade & professional HVAC/Engineering qualifications, 20+ years design experience and 3+ years installation & maintenance experience. Then you should know better. However, no-one is going to sift through all the garbage to read the few posts that are about push-fit plumbing so there's no point in posting my views in a thread which, despite it's title, is mainly about your vendetta. What are your reservations? I will put you right. "We're not all here just for your benefit" No, we're not. I'd thought we were here to discuss push-fit stuff for the benefit of anyone who cared to read it. "learn to live with it or take your leave" Yes. I wonder who else you've deterred. We may never care. Finish. Remember, Maxie has problems. |
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"Aidan" wrote in message om... snip Having followed you own efforts to increase the SN ratio, here is some advise; Do yourself a favour, get yourself a NNTP (Usenet) account, http://www.individual.net/ is a good place to start if your ISP doesn't allow access to one, learn how to use a newsreader and above all learn who to use the built in message blocking tools. Also, go to this web site and learn just what Usenet is and isn't, if you want messages in nicely packaged threads then perhaps Usenet is not for you, there are plenty of web based forums or email groups around - but don't expect them to have the un sanitised truth available... |
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":::Jerry::::" wrote in message ... snip Also, go to this web site and learn just what Usenet is and isn't, Oops... http://www.usenet.org.uk/ |
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Aidan wrote:
Yes. I wonder who else you've deterred. We may never care. Finish. Look, really, why don't you **** off? -- Grunff |
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In message , Andy Hall
writes I sometimes differ in opinion with IMM over different topics. There is never any malice or vindictiveness in what is written as far as I am concerned, Exasperation maybe :-)? I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, Now that would be interesting.... I do think the bickering (not from you Andy) with IMM does descend to rather childish levels at times, but if others want to spend their time that way, then so be it. -- Chris French, Leeds |
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Aidan wrote: raden, AH & others wrote in several messages; "You're very welcome. It comes from years of experience in reading newsgroups." That seems to have gone way over your head. So you've not heard of irony either? BTW, as well as not wanting to learn about killfiles, you appear also not to want to learn about proper quotation. I've reformatted your post to show you how. Not that I expect you'll care... "The signal to noise ratio on UK.D-I-Y is actually pretty good in comparison to some others." Signal to noise ratio is probably about 1:5 in the case of this thread, or about 1:10 in the case of your own contributions to it. What, are there other idiots ruining other UK newsgroups, in the way that you, IMM and others are ruining this one? Or, is it the same idiots? I'd suggest you read some other groups. It's a good idea to have a grasp of your subject before sounding off and looking like a prat. "There isn't a game to play or to win. Simply debates around various topics." In this case, the topic was supposed to be push-fit plumbing. If you want to slag each other off, why don't you start a dedicated thread for that purpose and post a link to it as required? As above. Life's a bitch sometimes. Not everything goes the way you'd like. "Did you have anything to contribute on the subject of DIY at all?" I may have had. One of the significant (IMHO) features of the push-fit systems hasn't yet been mentioned, while a quick check on the JG website has raised another question which I intend to research further on the other manufacturers' web-sites. Whether my views would be of any interest, would be another question. My opinions are based around trade & professional HVAC/Engineering qualifications, 20+ years design experience and 3+ years installation & maintenance experience. However, no-one is going to sift through all the garbage to read the few posts that are about push-fit plumbing so there's no point in posting my views in a thread which, despite it's title, is mainly about your vendetta. Oh dear. Another one trotting out some so called qualifications first thing. Not a good sign on most groups. Anyone can type what they want, with no way of checking... "We're not all here just for your benefit" No, we're not. I'd thought we were here to discuss push-fit stuff for the benefit of anyone who cared to read it. The discussing is led by those who write. Not the wishes of those who read. I'm surprised you can't work that out... "learn to live with it or take your leave" Yes. I wonder who else you've deterred. We may never care. Finish. News groups aren't a learned journal. Live with it and adapt. -- *Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes I sometimes differ in opinion with IMM over different topics. There is never any malice or vindictiveness in what is written as far as I am concerned, Exasperation maybe :-)? I do become so. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. |
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 14:39:15 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: News groups aren't a learned journal. Live with it and adapt. The favourite American HR expression, F.I.F.O springs to mind - Fit in or F*** Off ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? True. what do you gave a man who has everything. |
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 17:09:57 +0100, "IMM" wrote:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? True. what do you gave a man who has everything. The stock answer to that question always used to be 'penicillin'. I'm not sure these days. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 17:09:57 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? True. what do you gave a man who has everything. The stock answer to that question always used to be 'penicillin'. I'm not sure these days. Go away...they never said that did they..... |
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In message , Andy Hall
writes On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message . .. I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? Pushfit plumbing ? -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message . .. I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? Pushfit plumbing ? Maxie, leave this out. What you do with pipes in the far east is your business. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? True. what do you gave a man who has everything. A labour government. Then he ends up with nothing. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:15:33 +0100, "IMM" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner. It wouldn't occur to me to do otherwise. I would prefer that you gave me all your worldly wealth. But what would you spend it on? True. what do you gave a man who has everything. A labour government. Then he ends up with nothing. Out resident Tory snot is still at it. An classic example of how brainwashing is permanent. Can't you get a decent newsreader. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: True. what do you gave a man who has everything. A labour government. Then he ends up with nothing. Heh heh. By all the pledges at the recent Tory party conference, it would seem there's a new 'spend spend spend' party. Of course, it's easy to make promises when you know there's no chance of having to fulfil them... -- *When the chips are down, the buffalo is empty. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: True. what do you gave a man who has everything. A labour government. Then he ends up with nothing. Heh heh. By all the pledges at the recent Tory party conference, it would seem there's a new 'spend spend spend' party. Of course, it's easy to make promises when you know there's no chance of having to fulfil them... That was Labour's problem, wasn't it -- geoff |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: True. what do you gave a man who has everything. A labour government. Then he ends up with nothing. Heh heh. By all the pledges at the recent Tory party conference, it would seem there's a new 'spend spend spend' party. Of course, it's easy to make promises when you know there's no chance of having to fulfil them... That was Labour's problem, wasn't it Maxie, you are confused again. Blair read to the press not long ago the point they would do at the last election and 90% plus are done. Maxie! |
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Andy Hall wrote in message . ..
"Were you hoping that anybody would be impressed by that?" No. Just plain facts, believe or disbelieve as you please. Who cares? People can base their opinions on the content. "After all, if you walk into a community pub as a newcomer and there are several conversations going on at the bar, do you instantly elbow into a conversation and tear into what other people are saying? You could, but you wouldn't be surprised if they didn't thank you for it." On the contrary, if you go into a space/room allocated for a "DIY Discussion" and persistently disrupt the discussions with irrelevant, infantile squabbling, then probably only you would be surprised if someone eventually asked you to shut the hell up. However, since this is mainly a British discussion group, we usually don't do that because we don't want to cause a scene. Instead, people just leave, whilst muttering things under their breath like, "Tut, tut!", or even, "Really!". The result is that all those who might have made a valuable contribution have gone elsewhere and the space is abandoned to the f***wits. The f***wits eventually dominate the space, indulge in unchallenged misbehaviour and unquestioned delusions about their own expertise and even tell those who've come for a discussion to "Fit in or F*** off". Me, fit in with your conduct?! "This again demonstrates your lack of understanding of the Usenet medium and that you have not bothered to look at the history of threads in this group." Since when was knowledge of Usenet, computing or the history of your rantings a prerequisite for reading about DIY stuff? I just want to read about push-fit plumbing. "You would have been far better off keeping quiet and following posts for a while and then introducing yourself into one or two threads with useful material." Oh, right. You mean, something like; Using combi in stored hot water system, posted on 3/10/04 Your omitting to mention a legally-required safety device (your & IMM's replies of 3/10/04) on an unvented system might have caused people to wonder about the extent of your knowledge. "I'm quite sure that if I ever met IMM, I would buy him a beer and perhaps even dinner." You slag each other off at every opportunity but, in the event of your meeting, you expect that you will both behave with courtesy? How charmingly naïve. If we met, I would buy you both a drink. Two cherry cokes, please, in the paper cups, with straws. Now try not to spill it on yourselves and take it outside to the play area where you won't annoy the grown-ups. Finish it. |
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