John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor players.€�

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John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor players.€�

There must be a name for someone who hates his native country so much
that he relinquishes it in the end.

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On 23/05/2021 16:24, fred wrote:
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is,
he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian Max
Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely
badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and
material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison
to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30
million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didnt win the war in
that sense. We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really
quite minor players.€�

There must be a name for someone who hates his native country so much that
he relinquishes it in the end.

There is, emigrant.

And its not just hates, its normally recognises its limitations.

On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he says, “emetic”. “The wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material was – I can’t say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn’t win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor players.”

I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.

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On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war
single-handedly is, he says, "emetic". "The wonderful
rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out
that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely
badly organised, and our contribution in terms of
blood and wealth and material was - I can't say
trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to
the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven
knows what. We didn't win the war in that sense.
We were on the winning side by the end, but we
were really quite minor players."

I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler,
the world would be a very different place today.

Certainly if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
had wanted it likely would be today. Less clear what would have
happened with Russia tho, it isnt certain that Germany would
have prevailed there or that the USA would have just yawned
and let the europeans rip each others throats out again.

On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor players.€�

I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

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On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war
single-handedly is, he says, "emetic". "The wonderful
rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out
that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely
badly organised, and our contribution in terms of
blood and wealth and material was - I can't say
trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to
the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven
knows what. We didn't win the war in that sense.
We were on the winning side by the end, but we
were really quite minor players."

I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler,
the world would be a very different place today.

Certainly if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
had wanted it likely would be today. Less clear what would have
happened with Russia tho, it isnt certain that Germany would
have prevailed there or that the USA would have just yawned
and let the europeans rip each others throats out again.

Even if one accepts the niggardly remarks of le Carre that Britain's
contribution was minimal, it was at the very least a drain on
Germany's resources and an unwelcome distraction to their war effort.
Likewise, the terrible winter the Germans encountered in their
invation of Russia contributed to their defeat as much as the
defending Red Army's efforts. Hitler was a briliant political
scientist but an utterly hopeless military commander.

In article ,
fred writes
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is,
he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and
wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously
small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We
didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the
end, but we were really quite minor players.€�

I've never heard anyone claim we won the war single handed.
Russia' losses were terrific partly because of their own disorganisation
and partly because Stalin regarded his people as dispensable, much like
the Chinese did in Korea, but that's socialists for you.
On the other hand we did beat the Japanese in Burma largely single
handed.
--
bert

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writes
On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military
historian Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we
were extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of
blood and wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but
tremendously small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We
didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by
the end, but we were really quite minor players.€�
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.
We wouldn't be driving around.
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I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler,
the world would be a very different place today.

Certainly if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
had wanted it likely would be today.

A LOT of things would be different in the world if a lot of other things had
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On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war
single-handedly is, he says, "emetic". "The wonderful
rightwing military historian Max Hastings points out
that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely
badly organised, and our contribution in terms of
blood and wealth and material was - I can't say
trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to
the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven
knows what. We didn't win the war in that sense.
We were on the winning side by the end, but we
were really quite minor players."

I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler,
the world would be a very different place today.

Certainly if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
had wanted it likely would be today. Less clear what would have
happened with Russia tho, it isnt certain that Germany would
have prevailed there or that the USA would have just yawned
and let the europeans rip each others throats out again.

Even if one accepts the niggardly remarks of le Carre
that Britain's contribution was minimal, it was at the
very least a drain on Germany's resources

Not really. It wasn't called the nothing war
for nothing until the yanks got involved.

and an unwelcome distraction to their war effort.

That's not right either. They went thru europe like
a hot knife thru butter until they got to the channel.

Likewise, the terrible winter the Germans encountered
in their invation of Russia contributed to their defeat
as much as the defending Red Army's efforts.

Yes, but they turned on Russia long after they
went thru europe like a hot knife thru butter.

Hitler was a briliant political scientist but
an utterly hopeless military commander.

That's not true either when they went thru
europe like a hot knife thru butter. It was his
generals that claimed that wouldn't work.

It did anyway.

"bert" wrote in message
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In article , fred
writes
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he
says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings
points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly
organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material
was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the
sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men?
And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didnt win the war in that sense.
We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor
players.€�

I've never heard anyone claim we won the war single handed.
Russia' losses were terrific partly because of their own disorganisation
and partly because Stalin regarded his people as dispensable, much like
the Chinese did in Korea, but that's socialists for you.

On the other hand we did beat the Japanese in Burma largely single handed.

Nope.

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In article , Andrew
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On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is,
he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian Max
Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely
badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and
material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small by
comparison to the sacrifices of the other major lost, what, 30 million
men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didnt win the war in that
sense. We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite
minor players.€�
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

We wouldn't be driving around.

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
wanted. Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal,
doing fine. France did fine after it surrendered.

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On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, ”emetic•. ”The wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood
and wealth and material was — I can‘t say trivial, but tremendously
small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major lost,
what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn‘t
win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end,
but we were really quite minor players.•
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

We wouldn't be driving around.

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler wanted.
Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal, doing fine. France
did fine after it surrendered.

and the Japs would have taken Australia

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On 23/05/2021 16:24, fred wrote:
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and
wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small
by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We
didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the
end, but we were really quite minor players.€�



Le Carré of course was a rabid remoaner

We gave all we had, and without us the war would not have been won at all


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On 23/05/2021 16:24, fred wrote:
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and
wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small
by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We
didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the
end, but we were really quite minor players.€�

While probably true that no one country (other than Germany) could have
"won" in isolation Much of the rest of that does not stand up to any
scrutiny...

Had the British mainland not remained free of occupation, any attempt to
retake the European mainland would have been far more difficult.

The British empire and commonwealth brought not only access to millions
more troops, and vast material and manufacturing resources, but also
opened theatres in many more places, further stretching Nazi resources.

Bletchly code breaking efforts alone are estimated to have shortened
hostilities by at least two years as well.



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On Sun, 23 May 2021 20:16:09 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Rod Speed
wrote:


"bert" wrote in message
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In article , Andrew
writes
On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, ”emetic•. ”The wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood
and wealth and material was — I can‘t say trivial, but tremendously
small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major lost,
what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn‘t
win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end,
but we were really quite minor players.•
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

We wouldn't be driving around.

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler wanted.
Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal, doing fine. France
did fine after it surrendered.

and the Japs would have taken Australia

Like a hot knife through butter.

On 23/05/2021 20:16, charles wrote:


and the Japs would have taken Australia


Once they attacked Pearl Harbour the final result was just as inevitable
as Abbottabad.

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In article , Rod Speed
wrote:


"bert" wrote in message
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In article , Andrew
writes
On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, "emetic.. "The wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood
and wealth and material was - I can't say trivial, but tremendously
small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major lost,
what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn't
win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end,
but we were really quite minor players..
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

We wouldn't be driving around.

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
wanted. Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal,
doing fine. France did fine after it surrendered.

and the Japs would have taken Australia

Nope, they never had anything even remotely like the capacity to do
that and never intended to do that and post Pearl Harbour the yanks
wouldn't have let that happen even if they had wanted to do that.

They didn't even have the capacity to take PNG.
We stopped them from doing that at Kokoda,
and you poms were completely irrelevant to that.

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On 23/05/2021 16:24, fred wrote:
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and
wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small
by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We
didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the
end, but we were really quite minor players.€�



Le Carré of course was a rabid remoaner

We gave all we had, and without us the war would not have been won at all

That bull**** with the war in the pacific which would have
been won even quicker if the yanks hadn't needed to have
bothered about europe.

On 23/05/2021 19:28, Rod Speed wrote:
Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
wanted. Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal,
doing fine. France did fine after it surrendered.

The Germans would have continued to slaughter the Jews. Then they would
have dealt with homosexuals, gypsies, and other minorities.

Bill

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On 23/05/2021 16:24, fred wrote:
John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, €œemetic€�. €œThe wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and
wealth and material was €“ I cant say trivial, but tremendously small
by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia
lost, what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We
didnt win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the
end, but we were really quite minor players.€�

While probably true that no one country (other than Germany) could have
"won" in isolation

Corse the USA could and did in the pacific.

Much of the rest of that does not stand up to any scrutiny...

Bull**** with the Dunkirk, Malaya and Singapore utter fiascos.

Had the British mainland not remained free of occupation, any attempt to
retake the European mainland would have been far more difficult.

Thats bull**** too with north africa.

The British empire and commonwealth brought not only access to millions
more troops, and vast material and manufacturing resources,

There was in fact **** all of that used
for anything except their own defence.

but also opened theatres in many more places,

Only really north africa that mattered much.

further stretching Nazi resources.

Bletchly code breaking efforts alone are estimated to have shortened
hostilities by at least two years as well.

Sure, but thats different to being what produced the win.

Certain Britain was the reason the yanks concentrated on
europe first but thats a separate matter to who won it.

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wrote:

In article , Rod Speed
wrote:


"bert" wrote in message
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In article , Andrew
writes
On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, "emetic.. "The wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood
and wealth and material was - I can't say trivial, but tremendously
small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major lost,
what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn't
win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end,
but we were really quite minor players..
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

We wouldn't be driving around.

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
wanted.
Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal, doing fine. France
did fine after it surrendered.

and the Japs would have taken Australia

Like a hot knife through butter.

Nope, they never had the capacity to do that.

They couldn't even manage to do that with PNG
and had to crawl away with their tails between
their legs leaving lots of their corpses behind them.

williamwright wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler
wanted. Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal,
doing fine. France did fine after it surrendered.

The Germans would have continued to slaughter the Jews.

Yes, but not in Britain. They didnt in Spain or Portugal or Switzerland.

Then they would have dealt with homosexuals, gypsies, and other
minorities.

Yes, but not in Britain. They didnt in Spain or Portugal or Switzerland.

And what is the purpose of this post? I'm assuming you have listened to the
words of Day in the Life , by the Beatles?
The English Army had just won the war etc.


One other thing I feel was really bad was that all through my childhood the
comics sold to children had stories of the British killing Germans and lots
of Square heads, Krouts references as well. This went on almost to the 60s,

Blimey, its a wonder that n any Germans still spoke to us at all.
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John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he
says, "emetic". "The wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings
points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly
organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material
was - I can't say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the
sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men? And
in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn't win the war in that sense. We were
on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor players."

Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote

And what is the purpose of this post?

There is no purpose, its just mindless remoaner bull****.

I'm assuming you have listened to the words of Day in the Life , by the
Beatles?
The English Army had just won the war etc.

One other thing I feel was really bad was that all through my childhood
the comics sold to children had stories of the British killing Germans and
lots of Square heads, Krouts references as well. This went on almost to
the 60s,

Blimey, its a wonder that n any Germans still spoke to us at all.

fred wrote

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly is, he
says, "emetic". "The wonderful rightwing military historian Max Hastings
points out that we were bad fighters, that we were extremely badly
organised, and our contribution in terms of blood and wealth and material
was - I can't say trivial, but tremendously small by comparison to the
sacrifices of the other major powers. Russia lost, what, 30 million men?
And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn't win the war in that sense.
We were on the winning side by the end, but we were really quite minor
players."

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On Mon, 24 May 2021 12:14:07 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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The Germans would have continued to slaughter the Jews.

Yes, but not in Britain. They didn¢t in Spain or Portugal or Switzerland.

Spain and Portugal were dictatorial regimes friendly towards the Nazi
regime, but the Nazis hadn't yet any power in those countries, senile
asshole! Switzerland, for the time being, was neutral and used for financial
transactions of the Nazis. Britain offered neither of that. Germany most
certainly would have continued with their slaughter, not only of the Jews,
EVEN IN THOSE COUNTRIES, had they won the war!

Then they would have dealt with homosexuals, gypsies, and other
minorities.

Yes, but not in Britain. They didn¢t in Spain or Portugal or Switzerland.

Spain and Portugal were dictatorial regimes friendly towards the Nazi regime
and the Nazis hadn't yet any power in those countries, senile asshole!
Switzerland, for the time being, was neutral and used for financial
transactions of the Nazis, senile asshole. Britain offered neither of that.
Germany would have continued with their slaughter, not only of the Jews,
EVEN IN THOSE COUNTRIES, had they won the war!

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In article , charles
writes
In article , Rod Speed
wrote:


"bert" wrote in message
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In article , Andrew
writes
On 23/05/2021 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 23 May 2021 08:24:43 -0700 (PDT), fred
wrote:

John le Carre quote

To hear Brexiters claiming that Britain won the war single-handedly
is, he says, €�emetic€¢. €�The wonderful rightwing military historian
Max Hastings points out that we were bad fighters, that we were
extremely badly organised, and our contribution in terms of blood
and wealth and material was €” I can€˜t say trivial, but tremendously
small by comparison to the sacrifices of the other major lost,
what, 30 million men? And in treasure, heaven knows what. We didn€˜t
win the war in that sense. We were on the winning side by the end,
but we were really quite minor players.€¢
I beg to differ. If Britain had done **** all against Hitler, the
world would be a very different place today.


Do you mean we would be driving around in German or Japanese cars ?.

We wouldn't be driving around.

Bull**** if Britain had agreed to a truce after Dunkirk as Hitler wanted.
Britain would have ended up like Spain and Portugal, doing fine. France
did fine after it surrendered.

and the Japs would have taken Australia

And India
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