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Keyless chuck drills
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... It may be defective or it may be operator error: If the chuck touches anything whilst rotating, it can open it. Make sure it doesn't. You may not be tightening it enough. |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... Never come across with one that makes clicks. I am not particularly keen on them, but if you really can't get it to grip however tight you do it then it sounds like it is faulty. You are taking care to centre the drill as you tighten it, I assume? If you start with it wide it is sometimes possible to get it to grip on two jaws only, in which case it will come out when you use it. On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards. Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you grip both when tightening. |
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Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you grip both when tightening. yes |
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On 17/02/2021 15:52, newshound wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... Never come across with one that makes clicks. The better ones have a ratcheting type of action that engages as you tighten them. I am not particularly keen on them, but if you really can't get it to grip however tight you do it then it sounds like it is faulty. You are taking care to centre the drill as you tighten it, I assume? If you start with it wide it is sometimes possible to get it to grip on two jaws only, in which case it will come out when you use it. On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards. Many Makita have an auto locking spindle to allow the chuck to be tightened single handed. (these are chucks without the second section of barrel) Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you grip both when tightening. Yup, that type does not grip as well IME. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... One of my drills has a little button on the side that makes it rotate the opposite way. More than once I have pressed tthis accidentally. -- Michael Chare |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... Bosch say it's only for masonry drills upto 10mm. It's actually a pathetic little toy. Not even SDS! You need to spend a lot more. Bill |
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On 17/02/2021 20:15, williamwright wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... Bosch say it's only for masonry drills upto 10mm. It's actually a pathetic little toy. Not even SDS! You need to spend a lot more. Bill I'm cheap ... |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... went out and bought one with a chuck key .......all this modern ****e never works ..... |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick. Replace the terracotta airbrick with plastic. Terracotta is likely to to have less than 40% of holes, plastic will have around 95%. Why are you opening up the holes to 20mm? It sounds like way too big and if near ground level easy access for rodents. https://www.screwfix.com/p/terracott...-x-229mm/13873 -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 17 Feb 2021 at 20:26:17 GMT, ""Jimmy Stewart ...""
wrote: On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... went out and bought one with a chuck key .......all this modern ****e never works ..... If you're going to drill anything reasonably hard with a 20mm masonry bit I don't think this will work with any hammer drill, unless perhaps you start at 8mm and use every even size to progressively enlarge the hole. It is worth investing in a seat of cheap SDS masonry bis and a cheap SDS drill if you are going to need that size hole more than a few times. They have both in cheap no-name versions on Ebay and perhaps Amazon. -- Roger Hayter |
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on 17/02/2021, newshound supposed :
On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards. Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you grip both when tightening. I find I can get them tighter, by gripping the chuck and squeezing the trigger - starting with the chuck slightly loose on the drill bit. |
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newshound wrote: On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards. Sounds very crude. My cheap and cheerful Lidl one has an auto lock. No idea how it works, since like most cordless drills it reverses. -- *I don't feel old. I don't feel anything until noon. Then it's time for my nap. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 17/02/2021 21:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
On 17 Feb 2021 at 20:26:17 GMT, ""Jimmy Stewart ..."" wrote: On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... went out and bought one with a chuck key .......all this modern ****e never works ..... If you're going to drill anything reasonably hard with a 20mm masonry bit I don't think this will work with any hammer drill, unless perhaps you start at 8mm and use every even size to progressively enlarge the hole. It is worth investing in a seat of cheap SDS masonry bis and a cheap SDS drill if you are going to need that size hole more than a few times. They have both in cheap no-name versions on Ebay and perhaps Amazon. It's looking that way ....but now have all the coax terminated in pl259's through now.....that bloody terraccota is very hard .... |
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On 17/02/2021 21:27, alan_m wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick. Replace the terracotta airbrick with plastic.Â* Terracotta is likely to to have less than 40% of holes, plastic will have around 95%. Why are you opening up the holes to 20mm? It sounds like way too big and if near ground level easy access for rodents. https://www.screwfix.com/p/terracott...-x-229mm/13873 to get more pl259 terminated rg58 coax runs into the loft....with the coax in the holes the wasps shouldn't get through.... |
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On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... You didn't lock it. How to Keep Drill Bits from Coming OUT!!! (LOCKING THE CHUCK) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYZIWPRBos -- Adrian C |
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On 18/02/2021 07:29, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 17/02/2021 21:27, alan_m wrote: On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick. Replace the terracotta airbrick with plastic.Â* Terracotta is likely to to have less than 40% of holes, plastic will have around 95%. Why are you opening up the holes to 20mm? It sounds like way too big and if near ground level easy access for rodents. https://www.screwfix.com/p/terracott...-x-229mm/13873 to get more pl259 terminated rg58 coax runs into the loft....with the coax in the holes the wasps shouldn't get through.... sorry not RG-58 but the thick stuff RG-8 coax .... |
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On 17/02/2021 20:24, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 17/02/2021 20:15, williamwright wrote: On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... Bosch say it's only for masonry drills upto 10mm. It's actually a pathetic little toy. Not even SDS! You need to spend a lot more. Bill I'm cheap ... and my cheapness aften leads to failure.... |
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On 18/02/2021 08:25, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote: Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ... You didn't lock it. Â*How to Keep Drill Bits from Coming OUT!!! (LOCKING THE CHUCK) Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYZIWPRBos must try that...thanks |
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