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Jimmy Stewart ... February 17th 21 03:35 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...

GB February 17th 21 03:52 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...



It may be defective or it may be operator error:

If the chuck touches anything whilst rotating, it can open it. Make sure
it doesn't.

You may not be tightening it enough.

newshound February 17th 21 03:52 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...


Never come across with one that makes clicks. I am not particularly keen
on them, but if you really can't get it to grip however tight you do it
then it sounds like it is faulty. You are taking care to centre the
drill as you tighten it, I assume? If you start with it wide it is
sometimes possible to get it to grip on two jaws only, in which case it
will come out when you use it.

On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get
it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards.

Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you
grip both when tightening.

Jimmy Stewart ... February 17th 21 03:54 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 

Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you
grip both when tightening.

yes

John Rumm February 17th 21 06:31 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:52, newshound wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old
black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open
up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened
and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds
the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this
can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just
say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I
make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ...


Never come across with one that makes clicks.


The better ones have a ratcheting type of action that engages as you
tighten them.

I am not particularly keen
on them, but if you really can't get it to grip however tight you do it
then it sounds like it is faulty. You are taking care to centre the
drill as you tighten it, I assume? If you start with it wide it is
sometimes possible to get it to grip on two jaws only, in which case it
will come out when you use it.

On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get
it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards.


Many Makita have an auto locking spindle to allow the chuck to be
tightened single handed. (these are chucks without the second section of
barrel)

Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you
grip both when tightening.


Yup, that type does not grip as well IME.

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Michael Chare February 17th 21 08:02 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...


One of my drills has a little button on the side that makes it rotate
the opposite way. More than once I have pressed tthis accidentally.


--
Michael Chare

williamwright February 17th 21 08:15 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...


Bosch say it's only for masonry drills upto 10mm. It's actually a
pathetic little toy. Not even SDS! You need to spend a lot more.

Bill

Jimmy Stewart ... February 17th 21 08:24 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 20:15, williamwright wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old
black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open
up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened
and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds
the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this
can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just
say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I
make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ...


Bosch say it's only for masonry drills upto 10mm. It's actually a
pathetic little toy. Not even SDS! You need to spend a lot more.

Bill

I'm cheap ...

Jimmy Stewart ... February 17th 21 08:26 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...

went out and bought one with a chuck key .......all this modern ****e
never works .....

alan_m February 17th 21 09:27 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.


Replace the terracotta airbrick with plastic. Terracotta is likely to
to have less than 40% of holes, plastic will have around 95%.

Why are you opening up the holes to 20mm? It sounds like way too big and
if near ground level easy access for rodents.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/terracott...-x-229mm/13873



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Roger Hayter[_2_] February 17th 21 09:33 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17 Feb 2021 at 20:26:17 GMT, ""Jimmy Stewart ...""
wrote:

On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...

went out and bought one with a chuck key .......all this modern ****e
never works .....


If you're going to drill anything reasonably hard with a 20mm masonry bit I
don't think this will work with any hammer drill, unless perhaps you start at
8mm and use every even size to progressively enlarge the hole. It is worth
investing in a seat of cheap SDS masonry bis and a cheap SDS drill if you are
going to need that size hole more than a few times. They have both in cheap
no-name versions on Ebay and perhaps Amazon.

--
Roger Hayter



Harry Bloomfield, Esq.[_2_] February 17th 21 10:35 PM

Keyless chuck drills
 
on 17/02/2021, newshound supposed :
On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get it
properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards.

Or is this one where there is a second collar on the chuck, so that you grip
both when tightening.


I find I can get them tighter, by gripping the chuck and squeezing the
trigger - starting with the chuck slightly loose on the drill bit.

Dave Plowman (News) February 18th 21 12:51 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
In article ,
newshound wrote:
On my Makita cordless you need to set the gearbox speed to slow to get
it properly tight; on high speed you can make the motor turn backwards.


Sounds very crude. My cheap and cheerful Lidl one has an auto lock. No
idea how it works, since like most cordless drills it reverses.

--
*I don't feel old. I don't feel anything until noon. Then it's time for my nap.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Jimmy Stewart ... February 18th 21 07:26 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 21:33, Roger Hayter wrote:
On 17 Feb 2021 at 20:26:17 GMT, ""Jimmy Stewart ...""
wrote:

On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...

went out and bought one with a chuck key .......all this modern ****e
never works .....


If you're going to drill anything reasonably hard with a 20mm masonry bit I
don't think this will work with any hammer drill, unless perhaps you start at
8mm and use every even size to progressively enlarge the hole. It is worth
investing in a seat of cheap SDS masonry bis and a cheap SDS drill if you are
going to need that size hole more than a few times. They have both in cheap
no-name versions on Ebay and perhaps Amazon.

It's looking that way ....but now have all the coax terminated in
pl259's through now.....that bloody terraccota is very hard ....

Jimmy Stewart ... February 18th 21 07:29 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 21:27, alan_m wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old
black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open
up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.


Replace the terracotta airbrick with plastic.Â* Terracotta is likely to
to have less than 40% of holes, plastic will have around 95%.

Why are you opening up the holes to 20mm? It sounds like way too big and
if near ground level easy access for rodents.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/terracott...-x-229mm/13873




to get more pl259 terminated rg58 coax runs into the loft....with the
coax in the holes the wasps shouldn't get through....

Adrian Caspersz February 18th 21 08:25 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old black
and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open up the
holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened and
started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds the
drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this can't be
normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just say tighten
until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I make it the drill
still falls out....any ideas ? ...


You didn't lock it.

How to Keep Drill Bits from Coming OUT!!! (LOCKING THE CHUCK)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYZIWPRBos

--
Adrian C

Jimmy Stewart ... February 18th 21 08:25 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 18/02/2021 07:29, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 17/02/2021 21:27, alan_m wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old
black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open
up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.


Replace the terracotta airbrick with plastic.Â* Terracotta is likely to
to have less than 40% of holes, plastic will have around 95%.

Why are you opening up the holes to 20mm? It sounds like way too big
and if near ground level easy access for rodents.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/terracott...-x-229mm/13873




to get more pl259 terminated rg58 coax runs into the loft....with the
coax in the holes the wasps shouldn't get through....

sorry not RG-58 but the thick stuff RG-8 coax ....

Jimmy Stewart ... February 18th 21 08:26 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 17/02/2021 20:24, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
On 17/02/2021 20:15, williamwright wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old
black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open
up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened
and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds
the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this
can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just
say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I
make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ...


Bosch say it's only for masonry drills upto 10mm. It's actually a
pathetic little toy. Not even SDS! You need to spend a lot more.

Bill

I'm cheap ...

and my cheapness aften leads to failure....

Jimmy Stewart ... February 18th 21 08:39 AM

Keyless chuck drills
 
On 18/02/2021 08:25, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 17/02/2021 15:35, Jimmy Stewart ... wrote:
Just got my first keyless chuck drill and I am having
problems......bought a new bosch 550 wired drill to replace my old
black and decker and Stanley drills and a 20mm masonry drill to open
up the holes in a teracotta airbrick.....anyway got the bit tightened
and started drilling on the hammer settings and after a few seconds
the drill fell out and rolled down the roof to the ground......this
can't be normal... am I doing something wrong?....instructions just
say tighten until clicks are heard......doesn't matter how tight I
make it the drill still falls out....any ideas ? ...


You didn't lock it.

Â*How to Keep Drill Bits from Coming OUT!!! (LOCKING THE CHUCK)
Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIYZIWPRBos

must try that...thanks


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