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Source of M3 screws for Guitar tuner peg?
The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic
guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) |
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wrote in message ... The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) These people who appear to be UK based (all prices are in £) do single screws along with other bits for guitars etc. https://tonetechluthiersupplies.co.u...smo-black.html As the screws you are after will be a fairly standard part - same as the cogs etc. presumably they can supply what you need. michael adams .... |
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soup wrote: Do not get too caught up in what type of screwdriver is needed pozi/hex/slot etc. Really? On a nicely crafted item like a guitar, I'd think that important. -- *No sentence fragments * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"michael adams" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) These people who appear to be UK based (all prices are in £) do single screws along with other bits for guitars etc. https://tonetechluthiersupplies.co.u...smo-black.html As the screws you are after will be a fairly standard part - same as the cogs etc. presumably they can supply what you need. The above seem to fit the bill although slotted, despite no size being given, as they offer 10mm brass "machine head locating screws" on page 2 at 28p each. Presumably the "locating screws" are the screws used to affix the brass plates which carry the machine head mechanisms to the sides of the wooden body. And there seem only two types of screw in use in a classical guitar machine head. michael adams .... |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , soup wrote: Do not get too caught up in what type of screwdriver is needed pozi/hex/slot etc. Really? On a nicely crafted item like a guitar, I'd think that important. Indeed. So he'll maybe want order 6 screws instead of just one. Just so as to not upset anyone such as yourself who might peer too closely at the back of his wife's guitar, and notice one of the screws doesn't match. And obviously word would soon get around. michael adams .... |
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On 07/08/2020 14:39, michael adams wrote:
wrote in message ... The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) These people who appear to be UK based (all prices are in £) do single screws along with other bits for guitars etc. https://tonetechluthiersupplies.co.u...smo-black.html As the screws you are after will be a fairly standard part - same as the cogs etc. presumably they can supply what you need. michael adams Thanks, but those are to attach the plates to the head rather than the cog to the "spindle" (for want of a better name). They don't stock the screw I need |
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On 07/08/2020 13:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:50:56 +0100, wrote: The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? Not even eBay?(*) If you have to buy 100 flog the rest on eBay in small quantities, say packs of 10 probably for the same price per pack (inc postage) you bought 100 for... (*) Quick search found black A2 stainless round head allen socket 10 mm £4.67 delivered from a seller with 30,000 100% feedback. Do you have a file? Thanks, but I have (as always) spent time on eBay, Amazon, some fastener suppliers and some luthier specialists. The screw needs to be raised countersunk. |
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On 07/08/2020 13:30, newshound wrote:
On 07/08/2020 12:50, wrote: The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) Have you tried eBay? Normally my first port of call for such things, and very seldom disappointed. You might not find a black one, and you might have to trim it to length. Does it really have to have a raised countersink? Or you could replace them all with standard countersink. That will give you the choice of pozi or hex. Watch out as the "obvious" search will also give you 3.5mm electrical screws, which are raised dome. I've looked in all the obvious places, without success, hence asking here. |
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On 07/08/2020 14:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , soup wrote: Do not get too caught up in what type of screwdriver is needed pozi/hex/slot etc. Really? On a nicely crafted item like a guitar, I'd think that important. You are correct. |
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michael adams wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , soup wrote: Do not get too caught up in what type of screwdriver is needed pozi/hex/slot etc. Really? On a nicely crafted item like a guitar, I'd think that important. Indeed. So he'll maybe want order 6 screws instead of just one. Just so as to not upset anyone such as yourself who might peer too closely at the back of his wife's guitar, and notice one of the screws doesn't match. And obviously word would soon get around. I only worry what I'd think. Looking at something with the wrong type of screw fitted. Like some antique fixed to the wall with Pozi. But each to their own... -- *Can fat people go skinny-dipping? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 14:39, michael adams wrote: wrote in message ... The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) These people who appear to be UK based (all prices are in £) do single screws along with other bits for guitars etc. https://tonetechluthiersupplies.co.u...smo-black.html As the screws you are after will be a fairly standard part - same as the cogs etc. presumably they can supply what you need. michael adams Thanks, but those are to attach the plates to the head rather than the cog to the "spindle" (for want of a better name). They don't stock the screw I need As I pointed out in my follow up post " they offer 10mm brass "machine head locating screws" on page 2 at 28p each. Presumably "locating screws" are the screws used to affix the brass plates which carry the machine head mechanisms to the sides of the wooden body." Which are presumably the screws you are referring to there. And as I further pointed out " there seem to be only two types of screw in use in a classical guitar machine head." But you're probably quite right. Why throw 39p of your hard earned on a screw that definitely isn't going to fit ? Your wife clearly has a unique design of guitar and so a stockist of guitar parts is unlikely to carry any screws that would fit. That does of course raise the question as to where exactly you're going to source "the complete tuner head" which you suggested as your fall back option. As presumably it wouldn't be the same place as you'd first look for spare screws as otherwise you wouldn't be asking your question. michael adams .... |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , michael adams wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , soup wrote: Do not get too caught up in what type of screwdriver is needed pozi/hex/slot etc. Really? On a nicely crafted item like a guitar, I'd think that important. Indeed. So he'll maybe want order 6 screws instead of just one. Just so as to not upset anyone such as yourself who might peer too closely at the back of his wife's guitar, and notice one of the screws doesn't match. And obviously word would soon get around. I only worry what I'd think. Looking at something with the wrong type of screw fitted. Like some antique fixed to the wall with Pozi. But each to their own... Ideally when fixing anything to a wall, whether antique or not. things should be so arranged that the fixing is hidden, behind whatever it is that;s being supported. Whereas IMHO, with musical instruments the most important thing is the sound they produce rather than what they look like. Unlike say antiques which some people apparently find it becessary to screw to the wall. (As with MFI wardrobes and cupboards of old) michael adams .... -- *Can fat people go skinny-dipping? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 07/08/2020 17:04, michael adams wrote:
wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 14:39, michael adams wrote: wrote in message ... The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) These people who appear to be UK based (all prices are in £) do single screws along with other bits for guitars etc. https://tonetechluthiersupplies.co.u...smo-black.html As the screws you are after will be a fairly standard part - same as the cogs etc. presumably they can supply what you need. michael adams Thanks, but those are to attach the plates to the head rather than the cog to the "spindle" (for want of a better name). They don't stock the screw I need As I pointed out in my follow up post " they offer 10mm brass "machine head locating screws" on page 2 at 28p each. Presumably "locating screws" are the screws used to affix the brass plates which carry the machine head mechanisms to the sides of the wooden body." Which are presumably the screws you are referring to there. And as I further pointed out " there seem to be only two types of screw in use in a classical guitar machine head." But you're probably quite right. Why throw 39p of your hard earned on a screw that definitely isn't going to fit ? Your wife clearly has a unique design of guitar and so a stockist of guitar parts is unlikely to carry any screws that would fit. That does of course raise the question as to where exactly you're going to source "the complete tuner head" which you suggested as your fall back option. As presumably it wouldn't be the same place as you'd first look for spare screws as otherwise you wouldn't be asking your question. michael adams ... "michael", why the aggressive attitude? As I have said: those screws are not intended to attach the cog to the "spindle". |
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On 07/08/2020 18:49, wrote:
"michael", why the aggressive attitude? As I have said: those screws are not intended to attach the cog to the "spindle". in the limit why not buy a whole set? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROSENICE-Cl.../dp/B078H8GWGM -- "And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch". Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14 |
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On 07/08/2020 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 07/08/2020 18:49, wrote: "michael", why the aggressive attitude? As I have said: those screws are not intended to attach the cog to the "spindle". in the limit why not buy a whole set? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROSENICE-Cl.../dp/B078H8GWGM "type machine heads acoustic guitar" into google or Amazon -- "Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will let them." |
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wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 17:04, michael adams wrote: wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 14:39, michael adams wrote: wrote in message ... The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? (If all else fails I'll replace the complete tuner head) These people who appear to be UK based (all prices are in £) do single screws along with other bits for guitars etc. https://tonetechluthiersupplies.co.u...smo-black.html As the screws you are after will be a fairly standard part - same as the cogs etc. presumably they can supply what you need. michael adams Thanks, but those are to attach the plates to the head rather than the cog to the "spindle" (for want of a better name). They don't stock the screw I need As I pointed out in my follow up post " they offer 10mm brass "machine head locating screws" on page 2 at 28p each. Presumably "locating screws" are the screws used to affix the brass plates which carry the machine head mechanisms to the sides of the wooden body." Which are presumably the screws you are referring to there. And as I further pointed out " there seem to be only two types of screw in use in a classical guitar machine head." But you're probably quite right. Why throw 39p of your hard earned on a screw that definitely isn't going to fit ? Your wife clearly has a unique design of guitar and so a stockist of guitar parts is unlikely to carry any screws that would fit. That does of course raise the question as to where exactly you're going to source "the complete tuner head" which you suggested as your fall back option. As presumably it wouldn't be the same place as you'd first look for spare screws as otherwise you wouldn't be asking your question. michael adams ... "michael", why the aggressive attitude? What's *my* attitude, whether aggressive or not, got to do with you ? Do you consider yourself special in some way such that other people need to conform to your expectations as to how they should behave ? Basically as it turns out myou're simply looking for an 8mm M3 *machine screw*. Had you actually specified that in your original post then that would have been of considerable help. Of which plenty are available on eBay at £2 for 20. michael adams .... |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 18:49, wrote: "michael", why the aggressive attitude? As I have said: those screws are not intended to attach the cog to the "spindle". in the limit why not buy a whole set? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROSENICE-Cl.../dp/B078H8GWGM Or why not just buy 10 8mm M3 black machine screws for £2 on eBay michael adams .... |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 19:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 07/08/2020 18:49, wrote: "michael", why the aggressive attitude? As I have said: those screws are not intended to attach the cog to the "spindle". in the limit why not buy a whole set? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ROSENICE-Cl.../dp/B078H8GWGM "type machine heads acoustic guitar" into google or Amazon If you're not winding him up, then you're even more stupid than he is And no, I'm not leaving an eBay link. michael adams .... |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 07/08/2020 18:49, wrote: "michael", why the aggressive attitude? As I have said: those screws are not intended to attach the cog to the "spindle". he's a bolshie ****, is all Full of hatred for a world he has been taught 'oppresses him' where the truth is he cant accept he is simply mediocre. Well at least *you* know *your* place. " I have less income now than the minimum wage by a huge margin. So I use my time to save money. I cook, do DIY, sew, mend, repair and in general live the way my postwar parents taught me, and their Depression era parents taught them. On a shoestring." The Natural Philosopher That's even less than *mediocre* - by, on your own admission, "a huge margin" michael adams .... -- "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." Herbert Spencer |
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:28:26 +0100, wrote:
(*) Quick search found black A2 stainless round head allen socket 10 mm £4.67 delivered from a seller with 30,000 100% feedback. Do you have a file? Thanks, but I have (as always) spent time on eBay, Amazon, some fastener suppliers and some luthier specialists. The screw needs to be raised countersunk. Can find countersunk raised head pozi but not in black. Have an indelible black marker pen? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264274484695 First look at the picture I thought it showed counter sunk flat but looking closer they are raised but not a lot. Confirm with seller? -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 07/08/2020 14:50, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , soup wrote: Do not get too caught up in what type of screwdriver is needed pozi/hex/slot etc. Really? On a nicely crafted item like a guitar, I'd think that important. Agreed, but since you can get 10-off black countersunk hex 8mm long screws for £1-45 the OP could change them all. Would they then really notice the lack of "dome"? |
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On 07/08/2020 23:05, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 19:36:11 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: in uk.d-i-y wrote: The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? Maybe Mr Odell will wander in and suggest some alternative search terms? You called? (Thanks, Andy) If I were 8000 miles nearer my box of odd bits and pieces I would be happy to mail you one/some with my compliments. Any instrument repairer will have dozens of the things lying around in their workshop - just in case... - and that is probably true of your local music shop too - if you still have one. Just pop in and ask them - and maybe buy a new set of strings for that guitar at the same time. Nick Agreed, though since the OP seems to be fussy about an exact match they will probably have to locate six. |
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 19:36:11 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote: in uk.d-i-y wrote: The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? Maybe Mr Odell will wander in and suggest some alternative search terms? You called? (Thanks, Andy) If I were 8000 miles nearer my box of odd bits and pieces I would be happy to mail you one/some with my compliments. Any instrument repairer will have dozens of the things lying around in their workshop - just in case... - and that is probably true of your local music shop too - if you still have one. Just pop in and ask them - and maybe buy a new set of strings for that guitar at the same time. Nick |
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On 07/08/2020 20:24, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:28:26 +0100, wrote: (*) Quick search found black A2 stainless round head allen socket 10 mm £4.67 delivered from a seller with 30,000 100% feedback. Do you have a file? Thanks, but I have (as always) spent time on eBay, Amazon, some fastener suppliers and some luthier specialists. The screw needs to be raised countersunk. Can find countersunk raised head pozi but not in black. Have an indelible black marker pen? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264274484695 First look at the picture I thought it showed counter sunk flat but looking closer they are raised but not a lot. Confirm with seller? Thanks! Despite spending a while looking I hadn't found those; they should do the job. |
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On 07/08/2020 23:05, Nick Odell wrote:
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 19:36:11 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: in uk.d-i-y wrote: The screw that holds the cog on one of the tuners on my wife's acoustic guitar has disappeared. The others are M3, black, phillips or pozi, raised countersunk, length is 8mm overall (but the length of raised csk ignores the raised bit). I haven't been able to find a supplier for small quantities - any suggestions? Maybe Mr Odell will wander in and suggest some alternative search terms? You called? (Thanks, Andy) If I were 8000 miles nearer my box of odd bits and pieces I would be happy to mail you one/some with my compliments. Any instrument repairer will have dozens of the things lying around in their workshop - just in case... - and that is probably true of your local music shop too - if you still have one. Just pop in and ask them - and maybe buy a new set of strings for that guitar at the same time. Nick :-( If only we did have a local music shop - and the loss of the screw was discovered while she was changing the strings. I told her not to bother because the old strings were only 5 years old but ... ;-) |
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