Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur

On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.



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On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



Cutting 2mm thick slices of timber from what (what size is the original
wood stock)? What type of blade were you considering?

Maybe look at buying a Chinese knock off Dremel type tool which already
will have the necessary attachments. Or are you looking for something
larger?

https://tinyurl.com/yaunuxkf

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On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:42:45 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



Cutting 2mm thick slices of timber from what (what size is the original
wood stock)? What type of blade were you considering?

Maybe look at buying a Chinese knock off Dremel type tool which already
will have the necessary attachments. Or are you looking for something
larger?

https://tinyurl.com/yaunuxkf

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I'm not interested in anything like that.
I actually want to build a mini-mini-table saw.

On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

Why now use a very sharp knife or scalpel then?

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



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Martin Brown

On Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:12:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

Why now use a very sharp knife or scalpel then?

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



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Regards,
Martin Brown

I want to build a very small table saw that uses a blade about 30mm diameter.

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Arthur Ravenscroft
wrote:

snip

I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.

Not sure I'd count that as an electrical components project, maybe an
electro mechanical one at a pinch?

I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.

Possibly because it may not be the best place?

I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.

Depends on the size of the battery. ;-)

The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

Whilst I believe balsa is a hardwood, it is very much easier to cut
than say oak or mahogany.

snip

I want to build a very small table saw that uses a blade about 30mm diameter.

I think one of your main problems will be getting sufficient accuracy
in the mount for the blade and stopping end-float etc, unless accuracy
(something that would typically associated with such a small home made
tool [1]) isn't an issue.

If it were my project, I think I might start with a suitable motor
(that is probably going to have to be *very* small if direct driven
and even with a 2mm cut on a 30mm diameter blade.

30/2 = 15, 2mm for the cut, say 3 to ensure it's cut though, that
leaves 13 mm to get the table top thickness and motor radius, meaning
the motor might only be 20mm diameter?

I have a 3D printer (for the table) and lathe (for motor / blade
mounts etc) but I'm not sure you need to go so small to be able to cut
material that thin, unless that size / scale is the key point?

Sawmill on a model railway layout?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Unless you were a precision engineer / watchmaker and had the
skills / tools already?

Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 20:12:30 UTC+1, Martin Brown wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.
Why now use a very sharp knife or scalpel then?
I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur


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Regards,
Martin Brown

I want to build a very small table saw that uses a blade about 30mm diameter.

"Demonstration of the MicroLux #60514 Multi-Saw...a Mini Scroll Saw for Hobby Use"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D76nViIiD4

It can use a reasonably thin blade.

https://www.micromark.com/mini-power...ws/scroll-saws

Paul

On 3/7/20 5:12 am, Martin Brown wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for
me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be
being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections
of timber..2mm thick.

Why now use a very sharp knife or scalpel then?

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



Because he wants to build a mini mini table saw.

On Friday, 3 July 2020 00:41:16 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Arthur Ravenscroft
wrote:

snip

I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.

Not sure I'd count that as an electrical components project, maybe an
electro mechanical one at a pinch?

I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.

Possibly because it may not be the best place?

I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.

Depends on the size of the battery. ;-)

The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

Whilst I believe balsa is a hardwood, it is very much easier to cut
than say oak or mahogany.

snip

I want to build a very small table saw that uses a blade about 30mm diameter.

I think one of your main problems will be getting sufficient accuracy
in the mount for the blade and stopping end-float etc, unless accuracy
(something that would typically associated with such a small home made
tool [1]) isn't an issue.

If it were my project, I think I might start with a suitable motor
(that is probably going to have to be *very* small if direct driven
and even with a 2mm cut on a 30mm diameter blade.

30/2 = 15, 2mm for the cut, say 3 to ensure it's cut though, that
leaves 13 mm to get the table top thickness and motor radius, meaning
the motor might only be 20mm diameter?

I have a 3D printer (for the table) and lathe (for motor / blade
mounts etc) but I'm not sure you need to go so small to be able to cut
material that thin, unless that size / scale is the key point?

Sawmill on a model railway layout?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Unless you were a precision engineer / watchmaker and had the
skills / tools already?

RS is crazy overpriced.
A rectangular section motor would help you get the spindle close enough. I don't know what power & rpm you'd want for 2mm wood.

If you can find a TCT blade it'll work much better & need way less sharpening. I've no clue if they exist at that size.


NT

On 3/7/20 9:41 am, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Arthur Ravenscroft
wrote:

snip

I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.

Not sure I'd count that as an electrical components project, maybe an
electro mechanical one at a pinch?

I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.

Possibly because it may not be the best place?

I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.

Depends on the size of the battery. ;-)

The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

Whilst I believe balsa is a hardwood, it is very much easier to cut
than say oak or mahogany.

snip

I want to build a very small table saw that uses a blade about 30mm diameter.

I think one of your main problems will be getting sufficient accuracy
in the mount for the blade and stopping end-float etc, unless accuracy
(something that would typically associated with such a small home made
tool [1]) isn't an issue.

If it were my project, I think I might start with a suitable motor
(that is probably going to have to be *very* small if direct driven
and even with a 2mm cut on a 30mm diameter blade.

Or a long shaft to get the motor away.

30/2 = 15, 2mm for the cut, say 3 to ensure it's cut though, that
leaves 13 mm to get the table top thickness and motor radius, meaning
the motor might only be 20mm diameter?

I have a 3D printer (for the table) and lathe (for motor / blade
mounts etc) but I'm not sure you need to go so small to be able to cut
material that thin, unless that size / scale is the key point?

Sawmill on a model railway layout?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Unless you were a precision engineer / watchmaker and had the
skills / tools already?

On 03/07/2020 03:23, F Murtz wrote:
On 3/7/20 9:41 am, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 12:52:28 -0700 (PDT), Arthur Ravenscroft
wrote:

snip

I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.

Not sure I'd count that as an electrical components project, maybe an
electro mechanical one at a pinch?

I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there
for me.

Possibly because it may not be the best place?

I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may
be being naive.

Depends on the size of the battery. ;-)

The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin
sections of timber..2mm thick.

Whilst I believe balsa is a hardwood, it is very much easier to cut
than say oak or mahogany.

snip

I want to build a very small table saw that uses a blade about 30mm
diameter.

I think one of your main problems will be getting sufficient accuracy
in the mount for the blade and stopping end-float etc, unless accuracy
(something that would typically associated with such a small home made
tool [1]) isn't an issue.

If it were my project, I think I might start with a suitable motor
(that is probably going to have to be *very* small if direct driven
and even with a 2mm cut on a 30mm diameter blade.

Or a long shaft to get the motor away.

30/2 = 15, 2mm for the cut, say 3 to ensure it's cut though, that
leaves 13 mm to get the table top thickness and motor radius, meaning
the motor might only be 20mm diameter?

Or use a belt drive from a bigger one.

Typical small motor RPM is 10-60,000

you might want a 4:1 gear on that

I have a 3D printer (for the table) and lathe (for motor / blade
mounts etc) but I'm not sure you need to go so small to be able to cut
material that thin, unless that size / scale is the key point?

Sawmill on a model railway layout?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Unless you were a precision engineer / watchmaker and had the
skills / tools already?




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On 03/07/2020 03:20, F Murtz wrote:
On 3/7/20 5:12 am, Martin Brown wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there
for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may
be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin
sections of timber..2mm thick.

Why now use a very sharp knife or scalpel then?

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



Because he wants to build a mini mini table saw.

He has specified a crazy solution to the problem of cutting 2mm material
so thin you can do it far more accurately by hand with a sharp knife.

If he must persist in this madness then buying a Dremel tool or cheap
clone from Aldi/Lidl and adding a table to it would be my suggestion.

If he must buy bits then RapidOnline will be much cheaper than RS
provided he reached the minimum order value (ISTR £40).

I'd be more inclined to go for a tiny bandsaw configuration if I wanted
to do this sort of thing seriously and in volume. A table saw is far too
likely to snatch at thin wood whereas a band saw is quite well behaved.

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Regards,
Martin Brown

On 03/07/2020 00:41, T i m wrote:


If it were my project, I think I might start with a suitable motor
(that is probably going to have to be *very* small if direct driven
and even with a 2mm cut on a 30mm diameter blade.

The OP has to also consider the cutting speed - possibly if the motor
runs too fast there is a danger of burning the wood with a fast moving
blade actually rubbing on the cut edge.



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On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.


There are lots of projects on YouTube to build your own table saw.
Posted up by many folks worldwide with little access to Amazon etc, for
polished finished goods.

As a hobby interest, go ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxgxjtQHGBg
How to make Mini Powerful Table Saw

But given that you've quoted the most expensive place on earth (tm) to
buy electronic parts from, perhaps you may be amenable to spending £100
or so, on some thing ready built with the quirks worked out.

And also not spend some hours waiting for the 'glue' to set in A&E?

--
Adrian C

It's an unusual thing to want to make from scratch. Is there really
nothing commercially available? With something like this making it
yourself is likely to not be as good and cost more.


In article ,
Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

The Natural Philosopher wrote :
Or use a belt drive from a bigger one.

Typical small motor RPM is 10-60,000

you might want a 4:1 gear on that

It would still need a long shaft, even if belt driven, to get the
pulley out of the way.

On 03/07/2020 12:56, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote :
Or use a belt drive from a bigger one.

Typical small motor RPM is 10-60,000

you might want a 4:1 gear on that

It would still need a long shaft, even if belt driven, to get the pulley
out of the way.

Depends on the pulley diameter.


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other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

The Natural Philosopher was thinking very hard :
Depends on the pulley diameter.

..and the thickness of the table. The pulley would need to be large
enough, to provide enough friction so as not to slip when cutting.

On 02/07/2020 19:35, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:42:45 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



Cutting 2mm thick slices of timber from what (what size is the original
wood stock)? What type of blade were you considering?

Maybe look at buying a Chinese knock off Dremel type tool which already
will have the necessary attachments. Or are you looking for something
larger?

https://tinyurl.com/yaunuxkf

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I'm not interested in anything like that.
I actually want to build a mini-mini-table saw.

You mean a circular saw? So only capable of cutting straight lines.

You mean for cutting timber sheet ~ 2mm thick? Or for cutting 2mm thick
slices off larger timber?

What sort of blade diameter were you thinking about?

On 03/07/2020 08:35, Martin Brown wrote:
On 03/07/2020 03:20, F Murtz wrote:
On 3/7/20 5:12 am, Martin Brown wrote:
On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there
for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may
be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin
sections of timber..2mm thick.

Why now use a very sharp knife or scalpel then?

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur



Because he wants to build a mini mini table saw.

He has specified a crazy solution to the problem of cutting 2mm material
so thin you can do it far more accurately by hand with a sharp knife.

If he must persist in this madness then buying a Dremel tool or cheap
clone from Aldi/Lidl and adding a table to it would be my suggestion.

If he must buy bits then RapidOnline will be much cheaper than RS
provided he reached the minimum order value (ISTR £40).

I'd be more inclined to go for a tiny bandsaw configuration if I wanted
to do this sort of thing seriously and in volume. A table saw is far too
likely to snatch at thin wood whereas a band saw is quite well behaved.

Agreed.

Lidl had a small electric fretsaw a few weeks ago. I wondered whether
this was what he needed.

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:23:42 +1000, F Murtz
wrote:

snip

If it were my project, I think I might start with a suitable motor
(that is probably going to have to be *very* small if direct driven
and even with a 2mm cut on a 30mm diameter blade.

Or a long shaft to get the motor away.

Yeah, it depends what era he's going for, could be overhead belt
driven. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 08:35:45 +0100, Martin Brown
wrote:

snip

Because he wants to build a mini mini table saw.

He has specified a crazy solution to the problem of cutting 2mm material
so thin you can do it far more accurately by hand with a sharp knife.

If he must persist in this madness ...

snip

But isn't that (and it being madness or not) 1) down to the OP and 2)
Potentially a function of the situation?

Let's say he's working with a group on a model village and they / he
has decided it would be 'neat' that the wood workers table saw can
actually cut wood? You have to admit that might be cool if you were
showing a visitor round?

It's like the tiny LED flashing on a model railway layout 'Bloke doing
some arc welding' scene?

Or, he might want to build such for the S&G's of it, like the people
who build a model V12 engine that runs but had no planned use?

Or all the Mammod steam engines that were just bought, run and used to
do nothing but run. ;-)

Or the preservation railways that go from nowhere to 1 mile away and
back. ;-)

So, it may well be that it turns out to be a troll or madness but at
this point, I'm not sure anyone knows. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 03/07/2020 13:28, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
The Natural Philosopher was thinking very hard :
Depends on the pulley diameter.

.and the thickness of the table. The pulley would need to be large
enough, to provide enough friction so as not to slip when cutting.

toothed pulley m8. aka 'timing belt pulley'. Used em lots in model
planes.Not hard to get about quarter of a a horsepower through a 5mm belt.


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other is to refuse to believe what is true.€�

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 11:09:49 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

It's an unusual thing to want to make from scratch.

Not unreasonable thing to want to do though? Are you happy with people
putting messages on a grain of rice or making models of the Eiffel
Tower out of matchsticks?

Is there really
nothing commercially available?

Not sure how that helps the 'I want to make a mini-mini-table saw',
not I have use for a mini table saw?

With something like this making it
yourself is likely to not be as good and cost more.

Not sure it's the point if the point is 'making one yourself'.

It's like saying 'I want to service my own car' and being told to take
it to the garage?

Now, it might turn out they don't have the tools or skills ... but
might be willing to get them and learn them. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 13:35:34 +0100, newshound
wrote:

snip

I'd be more inclined to go for a tiny bandsaw configuration if I wanted
to do this sort of thing seriously and in volume. A table saw is far too
likely to snatch at thin wood whereas a band saw is quite well behaved.

Agreed.

Lidl had a small electric fretsaw a few weeks ago. I wondered whether
this was what he needed.

I'm thinking we are talking of a much smaller scale (30mm diameter
blade?) and making a table saw because that's the point, not to make
(or buy) something to actually cut materials (as we know there are
loads of ways you can buy tools to do that commercially).

https://www.proxxon.com/en/micromot/27006.php

Cheers, T i m

In article ,
T i m wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2020 11:09:49 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

It's an unusual thing to want to make from scratch.

Not unreasonable thing to want to do though? Are you happy with people
putting messages on a grain of rice or making models of the Eiffel
Tower out of matchsticks?

Is there really
nothing commercially available?

Not sure how that helps the 'I want to make a mini-mini-table saw',
not I have use for a mini table saw?

With something like this making it
yourself is likely to not be as good and cost more.

Not sure it's the point if the point is 'making one yourself'.

Just wondering how much thought the OP has put into it - given the title
of the thread.

It's like saying 'I want to service my own car' and being told to take
it to the garage?

If you asked on here where you'd buy the oil and filters, I'd also wonder
how much thought you'd actually given it?

Now, it might turn out they don't have the tools or skills ... but
might be willing to get them and learn them. ;-)

Knowing your limitations is a good start.

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*Why is the word abbreviation so long?

Dave Plowman London SW
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I'd have thought some kind of model makers tool was already out there for
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On 02/07/2020 18:23, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for
me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be
being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of
timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.



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On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:23:49 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.

Thanks.

Arthur

Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:23:49 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections
of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


Cant help you but Im intrigued by your project. Is this a €œworking model€�
that youre building rather than a device just to saw tiny pieces of wood?

Tim


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On Friday, 3 July 2020 19:52:09 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:23:49 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections
of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


Cant help you but Im intrigued by your project. Is this a €œworking model€�
that youre building rather than a device just to saw tiny pieces of wood?

Tim



Tim.
I am ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.
I will build a chassis from acrylics and/or wood.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.

Thanks.

On 03/07/2020 19:06, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:



Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


https://tinyurl.com/ybaaaafu

https://youtu.be/QxgxjtQHGBg?t=299

https://tinyurl.com/ycldf9py

Suitable drill and M6 bolts and washers.

Possibly something like
https://tinyurl.com/y6v8jh3c

Tip: if you have to cut the bolt to reduce the length first screw on a
nut. Cut on the waste side of the nut and after the cut unscrewing the
nut will re-cut or clean-up the thread at the site of the cut.

The above are not recommendations about what to buy. There may be better
products or prices or possibly something similar. Before drilling or
tapping a hole see if a 6mm bolt fits through the centre hole of the
blade with minimal slack



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Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Friday, 3 July 2020 19:52:09 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


Cant help you but Im intrigued by your project. Is this a €œworking model€�
that youre building rather than a device just to saw tiny pieces of wood?

Tim



Tim.
I am ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.
I will build a chassis from acrylics and/or wood.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


You said all that before. I think if you shared what you are trying to
achieve/create youll get a lot more useful replies than €œbuy a Dremel€�
etc.

Tim
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 13:01:27 -0700 (PDT), Arthur Ravenscroft
wrote:

snip

I am ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

What distance from the spindle to the mounting?

I will build a chassis from acrylics and/or wood.

You may need to make the top of it very thin to allow a 30mm OD blade
to poke though.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.

That might be something you will have to make.

Cheers, T i m

On Friday, 3 July 2020 21:22:45 UTC+1, alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2020 19:06, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:



Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


https://tinyurl.com/ybaaaafu

https://youtu.be/QxgxjtQHGBg?t=299

https://tinyurl.com/ycldf9py

Suitable drill and M6 bolts and washers.

Possibly something like
https://tinyurl.com/y6v8jh3c

Tip: if you have to cut the bolt to reduce the length first screw on a
nut. Cut on the waste side of the nut and after the cut unscrewing the
nut will re-cut or clean-up the thread at the site of the cut.

The above are not recommendations about what to buy. There may be better
products or prices or possibly something similar. Before drilling or
tapping a hole see if a 6mm bolt fits through the centre hole of the
blade with minimal slack




Thanks. Thats all brilliant, the mini table saw has all of the components I'd expected to see but the table saw is not what I'm aiming for.
I am familiar with taps and dies from my days as an app' a long time ago.

On Friday, 3 July 2020 21:28:50 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Friday, 3 July 2020 19:52:09 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


Cant help you but Im intrigued by your project. Is this a €œworking model€�
that youre building rather than a device just to saw tiny pieces of wood?

Tim



Tim.
I am ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.
I will build a chassis from acrylics and/or wood.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.


You said all that before. I think if you shared what you are trying to
achieve/create youll get a lot more useful replies than €œbuy a Dremel€�
etc.

I am building something that the user will slide the stock to be cut into a slot. The slot being only wide enough for for the stock. Imagine the user being too young to use a dangerous power saw. But old enough to use a tool with a fully enclosed rotating saw blade.

On Friday, 3 July 2020 19:06:34 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:23:49 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.

Thanks.

Arthur

Fastest output of that is 3700rpm, way too low. Removing the gearbox should get you 14,800rpm, a fairer speed for such a tiny blade.


NT

On Saturday, 4 July 2020 01:10:21 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Friday, 3 July 2020 21:28:50 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:

You said all that before. I think if you shared what you are trying to
achieve/create youll get a lot more useful replies than €œbuy a Dremel€�
etc.

I am building something that the user will slide the stock to be cut into a slot. The slot being only wide enough for for the stock. Imagine the user being too young to use a dangerous power saw. But old enough to use a tool with a fully enclosed rotating saw blade.

that's what those vibrating saws are for


NT

On Saturday, 4 July 2020 01:50:38 UTC+1, wrote:
On Friday, 3 July 2020 19:06:34 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
On Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:23:49 UTC+1, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:
Hi.
I am fancying a little project using electrical components.
I want to make a mini-mini-table saw.
I've looked at the RS Components website and its all bit out there for me.
I think I'd like it to run on battery power at this stage but I may be being naive.
The work that the saw is being designed for cutting very thin sections of timber..2mm thick.

I will build a manifold/body from acrylic or something.

So what is a list of components I will need to complete this.

eg
motor ( recommendations on this necessary)
spindle,
connectors,
gears,
battery holder type
soldering iron.
soldering consumables.
etc.

Thanks.

Arthur


Hi all.
Sorry if my original request was too vague.
Lots of you assumed I was after a ready made product but thats far from the case.
To avoid any more confusion Im ordering this,
https://www.rapidonline.com/mfa-917d...mbled--37-1215
to get me started.

This has a 3mm shaft so you might help me locate the fixings required to fix
a mini saw blade that has a 6mm bore in it.

Thanks.

Arthur

Fastest output of that is 3700rpm, way too low. Removing the gearbox should get you 14,800rpm, a fairer speed for such a tiny blade.


NT
When the stock is only ever 2mm thick what would be suitable speed for a fine tooth blade 2- 3" diameter?

On 04/07/2020 08:55, Arthur Ravenscroft wrote:

When the stock is only ever 2mm thick what would be suitable speed for a fine tooth blade 2- 3" diameter?


The ready made one previously listed says approx 8000 rpm (no load)
dropping to 5000 rpm for a 58mm (2 inch) blade.

You originally indicated that you were going to use a 30mm diameter
blade so for the same cutting speed at the edge of the blade you would
have needed approx 16,000 rpm (no load) dropping to 10,000 rpm, hence
the comment that maybe 3500 rpm was too slow.

I also note that the motors used in the commercially available products
and those shown in the DIY Youtube videos take 60W to 80W under load
while your selected motor is rated closer to a maximum of 3W. Your
get-out maybe is that you are not trying to cut 9mm plywood etc. However
I would recommend that you rig up your chosen motor with blade and power
supply and see what it can cut before committing to an enclosures. You
may discover that you need a bigger battery and your unit morphs from a
micro table saw into something larger.

Remember also that a child feeding in a piece of wood though a slot is
not necessarily going to keep it consistently square to the blade and
could easily stall the motor.


For comparison a Dremel type tool can be 80W+ and with their (smaller)
cutting blades on plastic they recommend around 10,000 rpm and closer to
25,000 rpm for soft woods.

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