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Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I
would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? |
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On 23/12/2019 09:11, Broadback wrote:
Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? I suspect that all the soundtrack LPs will be available on Spotify. I've never thought about playing LPs on a TV, but each to their own.... |
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On 23/12/2019 11:21, newshound wrote:
On 23/12/2019 09:11, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? I suspect that all the soundtrack LPs will be available on Spotify. I've never thought about playing LPs on a TV, but each to their own.... I did not only want the sound, I was hoping to get the film, hence the TV bit! |
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On 23/12/2019 11:21, newshound wrote:
On 23/12/2019 09:11, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? I suspect that all the soundtrack LPs will be available on Spotify. I've never thought about playing LPs on a TV, but each to their own.... I did not want only he soundtrack I was hoping to get the complete film |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:11:15 +0000, Broadback
wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? Have you checked YouTube for any of the films on your list? -- Mike |
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"Broadback" wrote in message
... On 23/12/2019 11:21, newshound wrote: On 23/12/2019 09:11, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? I suspect that all the soundtrack LPs will be available on Spotify. I've never thought about playing LPs on a TV, but each to their own.... I did not want only he soundtrack I was hoping to get the complete film I think we were confused by "Musical films on LP". Obviously LPs can only hold sound, not video, so we assumed you wanted modern-formats copies of the LPs, (CD, or MP3 via online, HDD or pen drive) so you could play the sound through your TV. Now you mention "complete film", it becomes clear: you want the film (sound and pictures) for which you currently have sound-only on LP. As a matter of interest, are the LPs made using the original soundtrack (and therefore cast) or are they cover versions of the songs made by other artists which was a common practice with musical soundtrack LPs. Try Youtube or Netflix, or maybe a web vendor such as Network who may sell it on DVD. The medium that you buy it on will depend on what player equipment (DVD, MPEG-2/H264, Netflix etc) you already have. Maybe I'm a Luddite but I always like to own a physical copy (LP or CD for music, DVD for TV/film), even if I port that onto a computer for easier playing on my PC (eg via iTunes or VLC) or TV (eg via Plex on our Roku box). |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 12:20:59 +0000, NY wrote:
I think we were confused by "Musical films on LP". Obviously LPs can only hold sound, not video, so we assumed you wanted modern-formats copies of the LPs, (CD, or MP3 via online, HDD or pen drive) so you could play the sound through your TV. I thought that too. Then I thought of LP on VHS. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 23/12/2019 12:12, Mike Halmarack wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:11:15 +0000, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? Have you checked YouTube for any of the films on your list? Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. |
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Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. 99% of people think of an LP as a black vinyl disc that plays sound only. I suggest you clarify what format you are seeking. |
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On 23/12/2019 14:00, John wrote:
? Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. 99% of people think of an LP as a black vinyl disc that plays sound only. I suggest you clarify what format you are seeking. Probably means LaserDisc. |
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On 23/12/2019 14:00, John wrote:
? Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. 99% of people think of an LP as a black vinyl disc that plays sound only. I suggest you clarify what format you are seeking. As I said that shows my age, LPs contained the complete films. As regards format I do not know, what is transferable to TV? |
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On 23/12/2019 14:07, Broadback wrote:
On 23/12/2019 14:00, John wrote: ? Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. 99% of people think of an LP as a black vinyl disc that plays sound only. I suggest you clarify what format you are seeking. As I said that shows my age, LPs contained the complete films. As regards format I do not know, what is transferable to TV? As others have said: the term "LP" refers to a flat disc with grooves that's played on a "record player" (a Long Play(ing) record); the technology was unable to carry video information for a film. Perhaps you're getting confused with one of the tape technologies (VHS, Betamax), or video disc? |
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writes Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? I am advised by young friends that YIFY is always worth a look ... -- Graeme |
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... On 23/12/2019 14:07, Broadback wrote: On 23/12/2019 14:00, John wrote: ? Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. 99% of people think of an LP as a black vinyl disc that plays sound only. I suggest you clarify what format you are seeking. As I said that shows my age, LPs contained the complete films. As regards format I do not know, what is transferable to TV? As others have said: the term "LP" refers to a flat disc with grooves that's played on a "record player" (a Long Play(ing) record); the technology was unable to carry video information for a film. Perhaps you're getting confused with one of the tape technologies (VHS, Betamax), or video disc? I believe Baird experimented with recording his 30-line TV pictures onto the grooves of a record, but apart from that, I don't think there have been any mechanically-written/read video recording formats. On VHS (and maybe Betamax) there was a tape speed that was designated LP (long play) which ran the tape at half the full SP (standard play) speed and so could record a whopping 10 hours on a 5-hour tape. The picture quality was crap, and freeze-frames were monochrome. Ironically, the later EP (extra-long play) which ran at 1/3 speed gave better quality pictures and colour freeze-frames. I hadn't realised how crap VHS was until I came to copy some tapes (mostly at SP, some at LP or EP) onto MPEG using an analogue capture card: for some reason, all the capture devices I've tried have made the timing jitter (wiggly vertical lines) far more obvious than they are when displayed on an analogue TV. I wasn't rich enough to own a VHS that had a timebase corrector :-) |
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:11:15 +0000, Broadback
wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? Could you describe what you mean by LP? Is it a disc or is it a VHS tape? What did you play them on; a special player feeding your TV? -- Dave W |
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I think he was more interested in film conversions which are not all soot
and whitewash and bloopy like many you get on DVDs from Ebay or so I'm told. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "newshound" wrote in message o.uk... On 23/12/2019 09:11, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? I suspect that all the soundtrack LPs will be available on Spotify. I've never thought about playing LPs on a TV, but each to their own.... |
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wrote in message ... On 23/12/2019 14:07, Broadback wrote: On 23/12/2019 14:00, John wrote: ? Sows my age I suppose, LPs contained the full musical, pictures and sound. 99% of people think of an LP as a black vinyl disc that plays sound only. I suggest you clarify what format you are seeking. As I said that shows my age, LPs contained the complete films. As regards format I do not know, what is transferable to TV? As others have said: the term "LP" refers to a flat disc with grooves that's played on a "record player" (a Long Play(ing) record); the technology was unable to carry video information for a film. Perhaps you're getting confused with one of the tape technologies (VHS, Betamax), or video disc? I believe Baird experimented with recording his 30-line TV pictures onto the grooves of a record, but apart from that, I don't think there have been any mechanically-written/read video recording formats. I've seen (in the 1960s) a tape recording of a Baird record. On VHS (and maybe Betamax) there was a tape speed that was designated LP (long play) which ran the tape at half the full SP (standard play) speed and so could record a whopping 10 hours on a 5-hour tape. The picture quality was crap, and freeze-frames were monochrome. Ironically, the later EP (extra-long play) which ran at 1/3 speed gave better quality pictures and colour freeze-frames. I hadn't realised how crap VHS was until I came to copy some tapes (mostly at SP, some at LP or EP) onto MPEG using an analogue capture card: for some reason, all the capture devices I've tried have made the timing jitter (wiggly vertical lines) far more obvious than they are when displayed on an analogue TV. I wasn't rich enough to own a VHS that had a timebase corrector :-) -- from KT24 in Surrey, England "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle |
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On 23/12/2019 19:08, Dave W wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:11:15 +0000, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? Could you describe what you mean by LP? Is it a disc or is it a VHS tape? What did you play them on; a special player feeding your TV? I apologise to all who replied. I had, more than a senior moment, more like a senior day. What I'd like is recordings of the original sound tracks, of course they were on LPs. What would be the best media for modern TV's, as that is where I can get the best sound? Also how large are the recordings in terms of disc space? As I asked originally, what is the best source please. Thanks to anyone who bothered to answer this after my stupidity! |
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On 24/12/2019 10:05, Broadback wrote:
On 23/12/2019 19:08, Dave W wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:11:15 +0000, Broadback wrote: Years ago I had a quite a large collection of Musical films on LP. I would like to indulge and take trips down memory lane. Where is the best place to find them and what is the best media so that I can port them onto my TV? Could you describe what you mean by LP? Is it a disc or is it a VHS tape? What did you play them on; a special player feeding your TV? I apologise to all who replied. I had, more than a senior moment, more like a senior day. What I'd like isÂ* recordings of the original sound tracks, of course they were on LPs. What would be the best media for modern TV's, as that is where I can get the best sound? Also how large are the recordings in terms of disc space? As I asked originally, what is the best source please. Thanks to anyone who bothered to answer this after my stupidity! MP3 is the most ubiquitous sound format. But TVs accessing sound files is still rather crap, so get a copy of audacity which can convert sound formats - and there are other ptrograms as well. -- Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people. But Marxism is the crack cocaine. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
... I apologise to all who replied. I had, more than a senior moment, more like a senior day. No problem. I've started having those too! What I'd like is recordings of the original sound tracks, of course they were on LPs. What would be the best media for modern TV's, as that is where I can get the best sound? Also how large are the recordings in terms of disc space? As I asked originally, what is the best source please. Thanks to anyone who bothered to answer this after my stupidity! MP3 is the most ubiquitous sound format. But TVs accessing sound files is still rather crap, so get a copy of audacity which can convert sound formats - and there are other programs as well. And if you obtain a recording in a format that your TV does not understand and want to convert it to MP3 which the TV does accept, save it at the highest bitrate that Audacity offers. I'd go for about 200 kbit/sec as a minimum. This is because MP3 is a "lossy" format, so the more you compress, the more information you discard and therefore the greater the compression artefacts. File sizes (for a stereo recording) are about 620 MB/hour for uncompressed WAV format (equivalent to what's on a CD) or roughly 110 MB/hour for 256 kb/sec MP3. |
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