On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

More detail; I was considering having the extra light on a rear pannier
and being able to take the pannier off and disconnect the light, fit the
pannier and connect the light, and when I forgot to disconnect the light
when taking the pannier off the plug and socket would come apart without
damage (this assumes the half on the bike is firmly fixed, of course).

I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.


Cheers



Dave R



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David wrote:
On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

Waterproof plugs like this can be quite pricey. IP6x 'LED connectors' can
be a good option:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IP65-Wate.../123904613118?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Bla.../233297935662?

(as usual, available from many sellers)

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

There are magnetic USB-C cables, but they'll probably not be waterpoof. Or
there's:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MagCode-m...r/312463519125

Theo

David wrote:
On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

More detail; I was considering having the extra light on a rear pannier
and being able to take the pannier off and disconnect the light, fit the
pannier and connect the light, and when I forgot to disconnect the light
when taking the pannier off the plug and socket would come apart without
damage (this assumes the half on the bike is firmly fixed, of course).

I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.

Take a look at Torberry connectors:-

https://www.torberry.co.uk/store

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On 9 Dec 2019 20:53:51 GMT, David wrote:


I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.

AMP Tyco Superseal. Not sure if they have snatch connectors in the
range but they are capable of single handed disconnection and are
waterproof.

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 21:33:40 +0000, Chris Green wrote:

David wrote:
On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

More detail; I was considering having the extra light on a rear pannier
and being able to take the pannier off and disconnect the light, fit the
pannier and connect the light, and when I forgot to disconnect the light
when taking the pannier off the plug and socket would come apart without
damage (this assumes the half on the bike is firmly fixed, of course).

I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.

Take a look at Torberry connectors:-

https://www.torberry.co.uk/store

Seconded. You can get rubber boots for them but with a bit of WD40 on
now and again (the right use for WD40 g) they survive pretty well
exposed to the elements.

I use them on things like portable solar panels (apart from RC cars
etc) and they do pull apart if snatched.

If you don't want them to you can put a small cable-tie round them.

Not 'small' as cycle gear goes but if tucked up under some panniers
....

Cheers, T i m

David wrote:
On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

More detail; I was considering having the extra light on a rear pannier
and being able to take the pannier off and disconnect the light, fit the
pannier and connect the light, and when I forgot to disconnect the light
when taking the pannier off the plug and socket would come apart without
damage (this assumes the half on the bike is firmly fixed, of course).

I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.


Cheers



Dave R



Better by far to chuck the dynamo, (unless you are using the bike as an
exercise bike)they use too much energy.(put unnecessary load on pedaling)
use modern battery lighting

On 10/12/2019 01:44, FMurtz wrote:

Better by far to chuck the dynamo, (unless you are using the bike as an
exercise bike)they use too much energy.(put unnecessary load on pedaling)
use modern battery lighting

I'd agree. Modern LED lights can be USB chargeable and provide an
incredible amount of light for the size. Some of the Lezyne units are great.

I was under the impression that the advice at the moment was that dynamo
only lighting on a bike was frowned upon, as it goes out when you slow down.
In this age of tech, surely there must be rechargeable lights that can give
the best of both worlds?
Brian

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"David" wrote in message
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On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

More detail; I was considering having the extra light on a rear pannier
and being able to take the pannier off and disconnect the light, fit the
pannier and connect the light, and when I forgot to disconnect the light
when taking the pannier off the plug and socket would come apart without
damage (this assumes the half on the bike is firmly fixed, of course).

I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.


Cheers



Dave R



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Surely at low voltage these days, almost anything will work?
Even if they get wet the low voltage means that it won't cause any issues,
protected by some greased they last for ages. My father had some which were
crimped onto the wires back in the 1960s.
Bit like the powered plugs on disc drives but a bit more robust.
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David wrote:
On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to wire
in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

Waterproof plugs like this can be quite pricey. IP6x 'LED connectors' can
be a good option:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IP65-Wate.../123904613118?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Bla.../233297935662?

(as usual, available from many sellers)

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

There are magnetic USB-C cables, but they'll probably not be waterpoof.
Or
there's:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MagCode-m...r/312463519125

Theo

"Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\)" wrote:
Surely at low voltage these days, almost anything will work?
Even if they get wet the low voltage means that it won't cause any issues,
protected by some greased they last for ages. My father had some which were
crimped onto the wires back in the 1960s.
Bit like the powered plugs on disc drives but a bit more robust.

True as regards safety but given that they're low voltage corrosion,
dirt, etc. will stop them working well because even a tiny bit of
resistance is significant.


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On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:27:19 +0000, Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote:

I was under the impression that the advice at the moment was that dynamo
only lighting on a bike was frowned upon, as it goes out when you slow
down.
In this age of tech, surely there must be rechargeable lights that can
give the best of both worlds?
Brian

Two word.

Stand light.

This is short term storage in the lights (capacitor I assume) which means
that they stay on for a few minutes after you have stopped pedalling.

Cheers



Dave R



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On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:15:32 +0000, Chris Bartram wrote:

On 10/12/2019 01:44, FMurtz wrote:

Better by far to chuck the dynamo, (unless you are using the bike as an
exercise bike)they use too much energy.(put unnecessary load on
pedaling)
use modern battery lighting

I'd agree. Modern LED lights can be USB chargeable and provide an
incredible amount of light for the size. Some of the Lezyne units are
great.

It is a touring bike.

So if you want reliable lighting and you can't guarantee that you will
have easy access to a 240V socket for regular charging then dynamo is the
way to go.

A week of camping (with no guarantee that you will have access to power at
night anywhere it is safe to leave your charger and lights) can make
dynamo power more attractive. You can even use the dynamo to charge your
power bank during the day so you can charge your phone/sat nav/whatever in
the evening.

Battery lights are carried as a backup in case anything happens to the
dynamo and lights.

Chucking away an almost new hub dynamo, which would require a new wheel,
isn't the most economic of prospects anyway.

Modern hub dynamos offer relatively little resistance.

I also like the daylight running lights, especially at this time of year
when it can be very murky even at noon.

So a question "where can I get a connector" is probably not best answered
by advising me to throw away about £200-£300 worth of front wheel.


Cheers



Dave R


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On 10 Dec 2019 10:17:08 GMT, David wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:27:19 +0000, Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote:

I was under the impression that the advice at the moment was that dynamo
only lighting on a bike was frowned upon, as it goes out when you slow
down.
In this age of tech, surely there must be rechargeable lights that can
give the best of both worlds?
Brian

Two word.

Stand light.

This is short term storage in the lights (capacitor I assume) which means
that they stay on for a few minutes after you have stopped pedalling.


When a lad I tried wiring the dynamo to a bridge rectifier, battery
and then the lights, but the charging load made cycling hard work.

With modern day charge controllers and very light (LED) loads, I'm
guessing it would be far more doable.

Cheers, T i m

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 10:50:07 +0000, T i m wrote:

On 10 Dec 2019 10:17:08 GMT, David wrote:

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 08:27:19 +0000, Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote:

I was under the impression that the advice at the moment was that
dynamo only lighting on a bike was frowned upon, as it goes out when
you slow down.
In this age of tech, surely there must be rechargeable lights that can
give the best of both worlds?
Brian

Two word.

Stand light.

This is short term storage in the lights (capacitor I assume) which
means that they stay on for a few minutes after you have stopped
pedalling.


When a lad I tried wiring the dynamo to a bridge rectifier, battery and
then the lights, but the charging load made cycling hard work.

With modern day charge controllers and very light (LED) loads, I'm
guessing it would be far more doable.

Cheers, T i m

When I were a lad my bicycle had a front dynamo.
One Christmas present as an add on was a battery tube (I think it took 3
cells) to use when stopped at the lights.
The front light had a 3 way switch under it, on, off, battery.

Tell that to the kids of today etc. :-)



Cheers


Dave R

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On 10/12/2019 10:50, T i m wrote:
snip

When a lad I tried wiring the dynamo to a bridge rectifier, battery
and then the lights, but the charging load made cycling hard work.

With modern day charge controllers and very light (LED) loads, I'm
guessing it would be far more doable.

Cheers, T i m
Make the full bridge from LEDs with a supercap and another LED across
the output.

Cheers
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Clive

Clive Arthur wrote:

Make the full bridge from LEDs

rather a high voltage drop ...

On 10/12/2019 11:54, Andy Burns wrote:
Clive Arthur wrote:

Make the full bridge from LEDs

rather a high voltage drop ...

You mean it doesn't work and all these years I've been hallucinating?

Damn that LSD was good.

Cheers
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Clive

On 9 Dec 2019 20:53:51 GMT, David wrote:

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

I'd see the bonus as a requirement, and go easier on the weather resistance...

My bicycle has spade connectors on the light, open to the elements, and the bike
parks outside, and I have no corrosion problems. I do put a light smear of
grease on the spades when convenient.

I'd suggest "hollow plug" connectors:
https://led.me.uk/female-hollow-plug-adaptor-connector-cable-wire-jack-for-led-strip-light-cctv-camera

or buy a cable with molded bits, cut in the middle, connect ends, done

This here is a powerbank and step-up converter charged from the hub, and uses a
smaller hollow plug with a housing that screws down:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009OLQ1VS

That would be more weatherproof, but wouldn't come apart without unscrewing.



Thomas Prufer

On 10/12/2019 01:44, FMurtz wrote:
David wrote:
On my push bike I have a dynamo, which powers front and rear lights.
The rear light has a pair of spade connectors which can be used to
wire in
an extra light (if so desired).

What I am looking for is a weather resistant plug and socket which can be
used to plug in an optional additional light.

A bonus would be if it came apart easily instead of breaking if the lead
was tugged.

More detail; I was considering having the extra light on a rear pannier
and being able to take the pannier off and disconnect the light, fit the
pannier and connect the light, and when I forgot to disconnect the light
when taking the pannier off the plug and socket would come apart without
damage (this assumes the half on the bike is firmly fixed, of course).

I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.


Cheers



Dave R



Better by far to chuck the dynamo, (unless you are using the bike as an
exercise bike)they use too much energy.(put unnecessary load on pedaling)
use modern battery lighting

At least a dynamo ensures that you have lighting when you unexpectedly
need it. You can be sure that rechargeable lights are flat at that point.

Just a thought - with the low power requirements of modern LED lighting,
it should be possible to design a dynamo that delivers enough for them,
without much physical load. Magnetic points around the wheel-rim and a
coil mounted on the frame would eliminate all mechanical losses - I know
they (used to?) do hub mounted dynamos, but the faster linear speed of
the wheel-rim would be better.

SteveW

On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:42:42 +0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

snip

At least a dynamo ensures that you have lighting when you unexpectedly
need it.

Unless you are stopped (without the battery addon). ;-)

You can be sure that rechargeable lights are flat at that point.

Not if you are a responsible road user they aren't.

Just a thought - with the low power requirements of modern LED lighting,
it should be possible to design a dynamo that delivers enough for them,
without much physical load.

They do.

Magnetic points around the wheel-rim and a
coil mounted on the frame would eliminate all mechanical losses -

But turn your bike into a scrap / nail gun. ;-(

I know
they (used to?) do hub mounted dynamos,

Do.

but the faster linear speed of
the wheel-rim would be better.

Given you can easily and quickly wear out the average cyclist by
fitting some higher wattage lamps on a conventional / traditional hub
dynamo (don't ask me how I know g), I'm not sure (ITRW) the
efficiency is a particular issue.

https://www.cyclingabout.com/dynamo-...g-lab-testing/

Cheers, T i m

In article ,
Peter Parry wrote:
I thought that this kind of arrangement was called a snatch plug but
searching so far hasn't shown me what I was looking for.

AMP Tyco Superseal. Not sure if they have snatch connectors in the
range but they are capable of single handed disconnection and are
waterproof.

They are a very decent connector at a very decent price. But have a latch,
and no cord grip as such.

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