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On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote:
On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 I have a bank app. The installation instructions said app would not work if the phone was rooted. -- Michael Chare |
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On 26/11/2019 17:37, Michael Chare wrote:
On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote: On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 I have a bank app. The installation instructions said app would not work if the phone was rooted. Magisk will hide rooted status from specified apps; the author always seems to be one step ahead of Safetynet (the part of the OS that detects root) but no guarantee that will continue for ever ... -- Reentrant |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:09:36 +0000, Reentrant
wrote: On 26/11/2019 17:37, Michael Chare wrote: On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote: On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 I have a bank app. The installation instructions said app would not work if the phone was rooted. Magisk will hide rooted status from specified apps; the author always seems to be one step ahead of Safetynet (the part of the OS that detects root) but no guarantee that will continue for ever ... Isn't the real question not how to do it and get away with it under normal circumstances but whether, if your mobile banking goes itspu and you lose all your dosh, your bank will still pay you compo? Nick |
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On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote:
On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 Thanks. I had a look there but felt like I'd entered another reality. I'm an ex-IT guy but I don't want to learn a new vernacular and spend days or weeks fiddling; I just want the thing to work so I can get on with the more important things in life. |
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On 27/11/2019 10:56, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:37:10 +0000, Michael Chare wrote: On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote: On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 I have a bank app. The installation instructions said app would not work if the phone was rooted. In which case, go back to them and get one that does work. I don't think you need to root a phone to replace the OS, just unlock the bootloader. |
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:14:24 +0000, wrote:
On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote: On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 Thanks. I had a look there but felt like I'd entered another reality. I'm an ex-IT guy but I don't want to learn a new vernacular and spend days or weeks fiddling; I just want the thing to work so I can get on with the more important things in life. Ditto in that I'm an ex-IT guy and the Android and Linux guys sometimes may as well be speaking Klingon and I wonder how they got to that point. Of course it's these same guys that write these systems which probably explains a lot. I did root an old Android 4 phone which allowed me to free up memory so I could actually run some apps that I wanted, nothing spectacular. It was no big deal but if I'd lost the phone it wouldn't have mattered that much. But if you don't want to fiddle then you are stuck with standard fare so just go back to factory settings. If you got your apps from playstore I suspect they'll re-install anyway. -- AnthonyL Why do scientists need to BELIEVE in anything? |
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AnthonyL wrote:
wrote: Reentrant wrote: XDA is a good place to start. I'm an ex-IT guy but I don't want to learn a new vernacular and spend days or weeks fiddling; I just want the thing to work so I can get on with the more important things in life. Of course it's these same guys that write these systems which probably explains a lot. I did root an old Android 4 phone which allowed me to free up memory so I could actually run some apps that I wanted, nothing spectacular. Back in the days of android 2.x and to a lesser degree 4.x I did put 3rd party firmware on my phones/tablets, to get round restrictions of under 1GB flash and 1GB ram, but I haven't bothered recently. I generally give a big fat warning when pointing people towards XDA. |
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On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote: On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. Why do you want to root it? You can root the existing Touchwiz (Android 6) install: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2oOvf5tOCY but of itself it doesn't change very much, it just means you can run some apps that require root. It also makes your phone more vulnerable if you give root to apps you don't trust. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 Thanks. I had a look there but felt like I'd entered another reality. I'm an ex-IT guy but I don't want to learn a new vernacular and spend days or weeks fiddling; I just want the thing to work so I can get on with the more important things in life. If you're into custom ROMs these work reasonably well on my Note 4: https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-16-0-t3900807 (I most recently tried the 2019-10-17 build - there are definitely better and worse builds - read the end of the thread for what people recommend) https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 (2019-04-24 build) and this video gives the procedu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQoHApohbDk (with a different ROM, but that's just flashing a different downloaded .zip file) The main annoying bit is installing TWRP which you only do once, once that's done it's fairly simple to flash a new ROM from an SD card. Be aware that generally it's a good idea to wipe data before reflashing, so you might have to reload apps etc. There are backup apps like TitaniumBackup and Migrate to help with that. It's probably better not to do it to your daily driver unless you have another phone you can use if you mess up. Generally, a full wipe and reinstall fixes most issues, but no good if you miss that urgent call while doing so. Theo |
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On 27/11/2019 21:27, Theo wrote:
wrote: On 26/11/2019 17:23, Reentrant wrote: On 26/11/2019 15:39, wrote: I've had a Galaxy Note 4 for many years and am still happy with it, except that something is making it run s l o o w l y. I plan to make a note of everything I use and then nuke it back to factory settings and reinstall the Apps I want, but this is also an opportunity to root it. Rooting a phone is new to me so I have no idea how easy or risky it is, which ROM to use, and whether the benefits outweigh the hassle. All opinions and experiences gratefully received. Why do you want to root it? You can root the existing Touchwiz (Android 6) install: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2oOvf5tOCY but of itself it doesn't change very much, it just means you can run some apps that require root. It also makes your phone more vulnerable if you give root to apps you don't trust. XDA is a good place to start. https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4 Thanks. I had a look there but felt like I'd entered another reality. I'm an ex-IT guy but I don't want to learn a new vernacular and spend days or weeks fiddling; I just want the thing to work so I can get on with the more important things in life. If you're into custom ROMs these work reasonably well on my Note 4: https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-16-0-t3900807 (I most recently tried the 2019-10-17 build - there are definitely better and worse builds - read the end of the thread for what people recommend) https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 (2019-04-24 build) and this video gives the procedu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQoHApohbDk (with a different ROM, but that's just flashing a different downloaded .zip file) The main annoying bit is installing TWRP which you only do once, once that's done it's fairly simple to flash a new ROM from an SD card. Be aware that generally it's a good idea to wipe data before reflashing, so you might have to reload apps etc. There are backup apps like TitaniumBackup and Migrate to help with that. It's probably better not to do it to your daily driver unless you have another phone you can use if you mess up. Generally, a full wipe and reinstall fixes most issues, but no good if you miss that urgent call while doing so. Theo I'm considering whether it's worth the time/pain/risk of rooting because I've read that it allows the bloat-ware to be removed and that some ROMs are faster than the standard Samsung ROM - but I'm in the difficult situation of not knowing what I don't know about the subject. The more I delve, the more I'm tempted not to bother. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
It seems complex but it's not really. A lot of the apparent complexity comes from the fact that the software tools and version(s) of the firmware(s) required vary with the hardware you are trying to upgrade. Basically you use Odin on a PC to replace the phones bootloader with TWRP (device specific) over a USB connection. Then boot into TWRP on the phone to replace the ROM (device specific) from an SD card in the phone. In summary, you need: Odin, to flash the bootloader: https://odindownload.com/ if you aren't on Windows there's also Heimdall: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/ A version of TWRP for your phone. I assume you have SM-N910F model (that's the European Note 4, with a Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU): https://twrp.me/samsung/samsunggalaxynote4qualcomm.html A ROM .zip file (see the XDA links I posted earlier). It seems the ResurrectionRemix builds work slightly better - eg RR-P-v7.0.2-20190920-trlte-Official.zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 If you want the Google apps (Maps, Play Store, etc) you need Opengapps https://opengapps.org/ Pick 'ARM', the version of Android you're using (9 probably), 'nano' - this will install the Play Store, and you can then install whatever apps you want when you've set up your Google account. If you want root (you probably don't, to begin with), you need Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/app...mless-t3473445 The procedure is: 1. Install Odin on a Windows machine 2. Use Odin to flash TWRP (requires holding Power+Home+VolumeDown buttons at power up to enter download mode, then connect to PC via a USB cable) 3. Put RR, Magisk and OpenGapps .zip files onto a micro SD card 4. Boot into TWRP (from off, hold Power+Home+VolumeUp) 5. Wipe system partition and cache via the touch menus 6. Install the ROM .zip then the Gapps and Magisk .zips via the touch menus 7. Reboot into your new OS (first boot may take a while) 8. Set up your 'new' phone Like anything, it's a bit slower the first time but a lot quicker second time around, especially since you don't need steps 1-2 again (although you can use Odin to reinstall the Samsung firmware[1] if you don't like your custom ROM). It's worth following a video on how to use Odin since the UI isn't terribly obvious (it's an internal Samsung tool that's leaked onto the net). Once you've done this, it's like having a new phone for about 15 mins work. Theo [1] download from samfirmware.com |
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On 29/11/2019 22:35, Theo wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote: It seems complex but it's not really. A lot of the apparent complexity comes from the fact that the software tools and version(s) of the firmware(s) required vary with the hardware you are trying to upgrade. Basically you use Odin on a PC to replace the phones bootloader with TWRP (device specific) over a USB connection. Then boot into TWRP on the phone to replace the ROM (device specific) from an SD card in the phone. In summary, you need: Odin, to flash the bootloader: https://odindownload.com/ if you aren't on Windows there's also Heimdall: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/ A version of TWRP for your phone. I assume you have SM-N910F model (that's the European Note 4, with a Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU): https://twrp.me/samsung/samsunggalaxynote4qualcomm.html A ROM .zip file (see the XDA links I posted earlier). It seems the ResurrectionRemix builds work slightly better - eg RR-P-v7.0.2-20190920-trlte-Official.zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 If you want the Google apps (Maps, Play Store, etc) you need Opengapps https://opengapps.org/ Pick 'ARM', the version of Android you're using (9 probably), 'nano' - this will install the Play Store, and you can then install whatever apps you want when you've set up your Google account. If you want root (you probably don't, to begin with), you need Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/app...mless-t3473445 The procedure is: 1. Install Odin on a Windows machine 2. Use Odin to flash TWRP (requires holding Power+Home+VolumeDown buttons at power up to enter download mode, then connect to PC via a USB cable) 3. Put RR, Magisk and OpenGapps .zip files onto a micro SD card 4. Boot into TWRP (from off, hold Power+Home+VolumeUp) 5. Wipe system partition and cache via the touch menus 6. Install the ROM .zip then the Gapps and Magisk .zips via the touch menus 7. Reboot into your new OS (first boot may take a while) 8. Set up your 'new' phone Like anything, it's a bit slower the first time but a lot quicker second time around, especially since you don't need steps 1-2 again (although you can use Odin to reinstall the Samsung firmware[1] if you don't like your custom ROM). It's worth following a video on how to use Odin since the UI isn't terribly obvious (it's an internal Samsung tool that's leaked onto the net). Once you've done this, it's like having a new phone for about 15 mins work. Theo [1] download from samfirmware.com Thanks to all (esp. Theo and DaveL) for the info. What I'm still lacking is an understanding of the benefits that would offset the pain. If the newer Note phones had removable batteries I'd probably treat myself but, apart from feeling a little slow, the N4 does everything I need. How would it be "better" with a different ROM (I'd misunderstood the process, thinking that Rooting was a necessary precursor to changing the ROM code) and would everything still work? |
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On 30/11/2019 11:26, wrote:
On 29/11/2019 22:35, Theo wrote: Dave Liquorice wrote: It seems complex but it's not really. A lot of the apparent complexity comes from the fact that the software tools and version(s) of the firmware(s) required vary with the hardware you are trying to upgrade. Basically you use Odin on a PC to replace the phones bootloader with TWRP (device specific) over a USB connection. Then boot into TWRP on the phone to replace the ROM (device specific) from an SD card in the phone. In summary, you need: Odin, to flash the bootloader: https://odindownload.com/ if you aren't on Windows there's also Heimdall: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/ A version of TWRP for your phone.Â* I assume you have SM-N910F model (that's the European Note 4, with a Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU): https://twrp.me/samsung/samsunggalaxynote4qualcomm.html A ROM .zip file (see the XDA links I posted earlier). It seems the ResurrectionRemix builds work slightly better - eg RR-P-v7.0.2-20190920-trlte-Official.zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 If you want the Google apps (Maps, Play Store, etc) you need Opengapps https://opengapps.org/ Pick 'ARM', the version of Android you're using (9 probably), 'nano' - this will install the Play Store, and you can then install whatever apps you want when you've set up your Google account. If you want root (you probably don't, to begin with), you need Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/app...mless-t3473445 The procedure is: 1. Install Odin on a Windows machine 2. Use Odin to flash TWRP (requires holding Power+Home+VolumeDown buttons at power up to enter download mode, then connect to PC via a USB cable) 3. Put RR, Magisk and OpenGapps .zip files onto a micro SD card 4. Boot into TWRP (from off, hold Power+Home+VolumeUp) 5. Wipe system partition and cache via the touch menus 6. Install the ROM .zip then the Gapps and Magisk .zips via the touch menus 7. Reboot into your new OS (first boot may take a while) 8. Set up your 'new' phone Like anything, it's a bit slower the first time but a lot quicker second time around, especially since you don't need steps 1-2 again (although you can use Odin to reinstall the Samsung firmware[1] if you don't like your custom ROM).Â* It's worth following a video on how to use Odin since the UI isn't terribly obvious (it's an internal Samsung tool that's leaked onto the net). Once you've done this, it's like having a new phone for about 15 mins work. Theo [1] download from samfirmware.com Thanks to all (esp. Theo and DaveL) for the info. What I'm still lacking is an understanding of the benefits that would offset the pain. If the newer Note phones had removable batteries I'd probably treat myself but, apart from feeling a little slow, the N4 does everything I need. How would it be "better" with a different ROM (I'd misunderstood the process, thinking that Rooting was a necessary precursor to changing the ROM code) and would everything still work? If I were you I'd try going back to factory settings and see whether that improves the speed. As others have said, with a bit of luck Google Play Store will reinstall a lot of your stuff. I rooted a Google Nexus some time ago and experimented with different ROMs. It was interesting (I like techie things a bit) but I've not bothered messing round with any of my devices since. It can be nice to get rid of some bloatware, for instance, but there can be disadvantages as well. -- Oliver |
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On 30/11/2019 11:55, Oliver wrote:
On 30/11/2019 11:26, wrote: On 29/11/2019 22:35, Theo wrote: Dave Liquorice wrote: It seems complex but it's not really. A lot of the apparent complexity comes from the fact that the software tools and version(s) of the firmware(s) required vary with the hardware you are trying to upgrade. Basically you use Odin on a PC to replace the phones bootloader with TWRP (device specific) over a USB connection. Then boot into TWRP on the phone to replace the ROM (device specific) from an SD card in the phone. In summary, you need: Odin, to flash the bootloader: https://odindownload.com/ if you aren't on Windows there's also Heimdall: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/ A version of TWRP for your phone.Â* I assume you have SM-N910F model (that's the European Note 4, with a Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU): https://twrp.me/samsung/samsunggalaxynote4qualcomm.html A ROM .zip file (see the XDA links I posted earlier). It seems the ResurrectionRemix builds work slightly better - eg RR-P-v7.0.2-20190920-trlte-Official.zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 If you want the Google apps (Maps, Play Store, etc) you need Opengapps https://opengapps.org/ Pick 'ARM', the version of Android you're using (9 probably), 'nano' - this will install the Play Store, and you can then install whatever apps you want when you've set up your Google account. If you want root (you probably don't, to begin with), you need Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/app...mless-t3473445 The procedure is: 1. Install Odin on a Windows machine 2. Use Odin to flash TWRP (requires holding Power+Home+VolumeDown buttons at power up to enter download mode, then connect to PC via a USB cable) 3. Put RR, Magisk and OpenGapps .zip files onto a micro SD card 4. Boot into TWRP (from off, hold Power+Home+VolumeUp) 5. Wipe system partition and cache via the touch menus 6. Install the ROM .zip then the Gapps and Magisk .zips via the touch menus 7. Reboot into your new OS (first boot may take a while) 8. Set up your 'new' phone Like anything, it's a bit slower the first time but a lot quicker second time around, especially since you don't need steps 1-2 again (although you can use Odin to reinstall the Samsung firmware[1] if you don't like your custom ROM).Â* It's worth following a video on how to use Odin since the UI isn't terribly obvious (it's an internal Samsung tool that's leaked onto the net). Once you've done this, it's like having a new phone for about 15 mins work. Theo [1] download from samfirmware.com Thanks to all (esp. Theo and DaveL) for the info. What I'm still lacking is an understanding of the benefits that would offset the pain. If the newer Note phones had removable batteries I'd probably treat myself but, apart from feeling a little slow, the N4 does everything I need. How would it be "better" with a different ROM (I'd misunderstood the process, thinking that Rooting was a necessary precursor to changing the ROM code) and would everything still work? If I were you I'd try going back to factory settings and see whether that improves the speed. As others have said, with a bit of luck Google Play Store will reinstall a lot of your stuff. I rooted a Google Nexus some time ago and experimented with different ROMs. It was interesting (I like techie things a bit) but I've not bothered messing round with any of my devices since. It can be nice to get rid of some bloatware, for instance, but there can be disadvantages as well. Getting rid of bloatware was one of the motivators, but this https://beebom.com/remove-bloatware-android-no-root/ suggests there may be easier ways. |
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Rooting a phone
On 30/11/2019 12:08, wrote:
On 30/11/2019 11:55, Oliver wrote: On 30/11/2019 11:26, wrote: On 29/11/2019 22:35, Theo wrote: Dave Liquorice wrote: It seems complex but it's not really. A lot of the apparent complexity comes from the fact that the software tools and version(s) of the firmware(s) required vary with the hardware you are trying to upgrade. Basically you use Odin on a PC to replace the phones bootloader with TWRP (device specific) over a USB connection. Then boot into TWRP on the phone to replace the ROM (device specific) from an SD card in the phone. In summary, you need: Odin, to flash the bootloader: https://odindownload.com/ if you aren't on Windows there's also Heimdall: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/ A version of TWRP for your phone.Â* I assume you have SM-N910F model (that's the European Note 4, with a Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU): https://twrp.me/samsung/samsunggalaxynote4qualcomm.html A ROM .zip file (see the XDA links I posted earlier). It seems the ResurrectionRemix builds work slightly better - eg RR-P-v7.0.2-20190920-trlte-Official.zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...7-0-0-t3899186 If you want the Google apps (Maps, Play Store, etc) you need Opengapps https://opengapps.org/ Pick 'ARM', the version of Android you're using (9 probably), 'nano' - this will install the Play Store, and you can then install whatever apps you want when you've set up your Google account. If you want root (you probably don't, to begin with), you need Magisk: https://forum.xda-developers.com/app...mless-t3473445 The procedure is: 1. Install Odin on a Windows machine 2. Use Odin to flash TWRP (requires holding Power+Home+VolumeDown buttons at power up to enter download mode, then connect to PC via a USB cable) 3. Put RR, Magisk and OpenGapps .zip files onto a micro SD card 4. Boot into TWRP (from off, hold Power+Home+VolumeUp) 5. Wipe system partition and cache via the touch menus 6. Install the ROM .zip then the Gapps and Magisk .zips via the touch menus 7. Reboot into your new OS (first boot may take a while) 8. Set up your 'new' phone Like anything, it's a bit slower the first time but a lot quicker second time around, especially since you don't need steps 1-2 again (although you can use Odin to reinstall the Samsung firmware[1] if you don't like your custom ROM).Â* It's worth following a video on how to use Odin since the UI isn't terribly obvious (it's an internal Samsung tool that's leaked onto the net). Once you've done this, it's like having a new phone for about 15 mins work. Theo [1] download from samfirmware.com Thanks to all (esp. Theo and DaveL) for the info. What I'm still lacking is an understanding of the benefits that would offset the pain. If the newer Note phones had removable batteries I'd probably treat myself but, apart from feeling a little slow, the N4 does everything I need. How would it be "better" with a different ROM (I'd misunderstood the process, thinking that Rooting was a necessary precursor to changing the ROM code) and would everything still work? If I were you I'd try going back to factory settings and see whether that improves the speed. As others have said, with a bit of luck Google Play Store will reinstall a lot of your stuff. I rooted a Google Nexus some time ago and experimented with different ROMs. It was interesting (I like techie things a bit) but I've not bothered messing round with any of my devices since. It can be nice to get rid of some bloatware, for instance, but there can be disadvantages as well. Getting rid of bloatware was one of the motivators, but this https://beebom.com/remove-bloatware-android-no-root/ suggests there may be easier ways. When phones came with limited internal memory and many apps wouldn't run from external SD, uninstalling bloatware was almost essential to free up internal memory for your own apps. This needed root. But these days it's less of a problem; phones have much more RAM, and apps run happily from external storage. Bloatware is still ugly and intrusive but you can disable it via ADB commands over USB (enable Developer mode in settings, then "USB debugging" but you don't have to unlock the bootloader or root the OS). After ADB disable, bloatware is still takes up storage but you don't see it in the screen menus and it doesn't run in the background. You can disable system apps via ADB that you can't disable in Settings. -- Reentrant |
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