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In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a
rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. https://goo.gl/maps/XEDuoNmvGrNLjWTE6 is the location in Google Streetview (the tree by the lamp-post was a bit smaller and was in full leaf in September 2011). |
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On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote:
In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. -- Colin Bignell |
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On 24/10/2019 16:39, nightjar wrote:
On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. My guess is it might be a traffic census or possibly monitoring the surface conditions. Of course it could be a camera someone has climbed up the pole and shifted so the ANPR doesn't keep catching them, but they are usually somewhat smaller and in ones. |
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote:
In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? -- Cheers Dave. |
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![]() "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. Why two separate devices tho ? Surely yours don’t normally have two and given they are different size, not very likely to be one for each direction when in use unless they just happen to have changed models and somewhere has to have a mismatched pair. And why point them at the ground instead of just disabling them in the control unit ? |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
idual.net... On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? When I next go past I'll try to drive slowly (without looking as if I'm Burglar Bill casing the joint!) and see what the wording says. I noticed it and hoped my dashcam would pick it up legibly, but no hope! |
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On 24/10/2019 18:47, Rod Speed wrote:
"nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. Why two separate devices tho ?* Surely yours don’t normally have two and given they are different size, not very likely to be one for each direction when in use unless they just happen to have changed models and somewhere has to have a mismatched pair. The industrial estate where I used to have my factories had five different cameras covering the entrance area - one B&W night camera and one colour day camera facing in each direction plus a high definition camera taking numberplates of vehicles entering (ANPR was not then usual). They were not all of the same design. And why point them at the ground instead of just disabling them in the control unit ? I assume that they are motorised and simply droop when not powered. -- Colin Bignell |
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 04:47:37 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Why two separate devices tho ? Surely yours don¢t normally have two and given they are different size, not very likely to be one for each direction when in use unless they just happen to have changed models and somewhere has to have a mismatched pair. And why point them at the ground instead of just disabling them in the control unit ? I'm sure YOU will find out! Let us know ALL the answers you will find, senile Mr. Know-it-all! BG -- The Natural Philosopher about senile Rot: "Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole." Message-ID: |
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On 24/10/2019 19:29, NY wrote:
"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message idual.net... On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? When I next go past I'll try to drive slowly (without looking as if I'm Burglar Bill casing the joint!) and see what the wording says. I noticed it and hoped my dashcam would pick it up legibly, but no hope! Just stop the car, get out and take close up photos. It's still a free country. Wear a hi viz and anyone watching you will just assume you are meant to be there. -- Adam |
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Maybe it just counts vehicles?
Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. -- Colin Bignell |
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On 24/10/2019 19:29, NY wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message idual.net... On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? When I next go past I'll try to drive slowly (without looking as if I'm Burglar Bill casing the joint!) and see what the wording says. I noticed it and hoped my dashcam would pick it up legibly, but no hope! Just stop the car, get out and take close up photos. It's still a free country. Wear a hi viz and anyone watching you will just assume you are meant to be there. You forgot the hard hat and the clipboard! I once walked into a Army Camp with this stuff, straight past the soldier with a gun. |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
... Maybe it just counts vehicles? I did wonder that but it looked over-engineered for vehicle counting or pollution monitoring. The larger of the two looks just like a big CCTV security camera, complete with the shroud that protrudes more at the top of the lens (to act as a sun shield) than at the bottom. I'll have to try the bold-as-brass technique of stopping while wearing my hi-vis cycling vest and looking at the camera. I could even cycle there if I knew I wasn't going to get saturated with all the rain we've had lately. |
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![]() "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 18:47, Rod Speed wrote: "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. Why two separate devices tho ? Surely yours don’t normally have two and given they are different size, not very likely to be one for each direction when in use unless they just happen to have changed models and somewhere has to have a mismatched pair. The industrial estate where I used to have my factories had five different cameras covering the entrance area - one B&W night camera and one colour day camera facing in each direction plus a high definition camera taking numberplates of vehicles entering (ANPR was not then usual). They were not all of the same design. And why point them at the ground instead of just disabling them in the control unit ? I assume that they are motorised and simply droop when not powered. Dunno, all the motorised ones that I have looked at stay where the last where when not powered. In other words the motor moves them it doesn’t have to be powered to stay in a position. Stepper motor etc. |
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On 24/10/2019 20:57, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: On 24/10/2019 19:29, NY wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message idual.net... On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? When I next go past I'll try to drive slowly (without looking as if I'm Burglar Bill casing the joint!) and see what the wording says. I noticed it and hoped my dashcam would pick it up legibly, but no hope! Just stop the car, get out and take close up photos. It's still a free country. Wear a hi viz and anyone watching you will just assume you are meant to be there. You forgot the hard hat and the clipboard! I once walked into a Army Camp with this stuff, straight past the soldier with a gun. Also look at the thing you're photographing, shake your head, and tut audibly. Then scribble on your clip-board and stalk off. Bill |
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:06:05 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Dunno, You don't know! PERIOD, bigmouth! -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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![]() "dennis@home" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 16:39, nightjar wrote: On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. My guess is it might be a traffic census Ours do that with two tubes nailed to the road going to a box which is chained and padlocked to a tree or sign post poll. Much easier to move around done like that. or possibly monitoring the surface conditions. Sounds very unlikely to me. Of course it could be a camera someone has climbed up the pole and shifted so the ANPR doesn't keep catching them, but they are usually somewhat smaller and in ones. |
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Brian Gaff wrote
Obviously cannot see the pics, but there are something like that about for pollution monitoring. Those point at the ground quite close to the bottom of the light pole, so it wouldn’t be for pollution monitoring. "NY" wrote in message ... In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. https://goo.gl/maps/XEDuoNmvGrNLjWTE6 is the location in Google Streetview (the tree by the lamp-post was a bit smaller and was in full leaf in September 2011). |
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Brian Gaff wrote
Maybe it just counts vehicles? No need for two of them pointing the same way for that. "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 16:27, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. My guess would be a CCTV system that is not yet in use. -- Colin Bignell |
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On Thursday, 24 October 2019 16:27:22 UTC+1, NY wrote:
In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. There are no road markings like you get with speed cameras. I presume the larger device is a camera and the smaller one is a light. The cameras are angled so steeply that they could not see the number-plate of a car. There is also a box on the lamp-post which may be some form of control module. https://i.postimg.cc/h49P8qLF/vlcsna...s127-small.png Ignore the curvature of the lamp-post: it's distortion from the lens in my dashcam: I had to wait until I was close to the lamp-post to get the largest image, and that's when it's on the edge of the frame where distortion is greatest. Any ideas? I'm intrigued. https://goo.gl/maps/XEDuoNmvGrNLjWTE6 is the location in Google Streetview (the tree by the lamp-post was a bit smaller and was in full leaf in September 2011). Maybe they are cameras and left pointing down to keep rain/snow/dirt off the lenses when not in use. |
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:12 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Ours do FLUSH troll**** Yours don't count, senile Ozzie pest! This is a UK ng! -- Sqwertz to Rot Speed: "This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative asshole. MID: |
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:58:05 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Maybe it just counts vehicles? No LOL You totally ****ed up, auto-contradicting, senile asshole! -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:56:35 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Those point at the ground quite close to the bottom of the light pole, so it wouldn¢t be for pollution monitoring. ....and more of the senile asshole's pathological auto-contradicting! LOL -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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Where we lived before we noticed a temporary camera was often attached to a lamp post in an area of shops and a pub where yoofs used to gather. It however was a dome camera with a PTZ arrangement which on occasion you could see swivel. I think the local authority put it up when it got complaints about the yoofs behaviour and removed it once any bother moved on.
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On Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:58:43 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
ARW wrote: On 24/10/2019 19:29, NY wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message idual.net... On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? When I next go past I'll try to drive slowly (without looking as if I'm Burglar Bill casing the joint!) and see what the wording says. I noticed it and hoped my dashcam would pick it up legibly, but no hope! Just stop the car, get out and take close up photos. It's still a free country. Wear a hi viz and anyone watching you will just assume you are meant to be there. You forgot the hard hat and the clipboard! I once walked into a Army Camp with this stuff, straight past the soldier with a gun. Are you sure it was a gun in his pocket or was he just pleased to see you ;-) |
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On Friday, 25 October 2019 06:05:54 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote Obviously cannot see the pics, but there are something like that about for pollution monitoring. Those point at the ground quite close to the bottom of the light pole, so it wouldnt be for pollution monitoring. we have a pollution measuring setup outside our building. https://www.dropbox.com/s/a958r01nvq..._1301.jpg?dl=0 for brian :- it looks a bit like a large bird cage with a couple of containers in it that are fluttered if that's the right word on a metal box, and it makes a humming noise. |
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On 24/10/2019 22:06, Rod Speed wrote:
"nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 18:47, Rod Speed wrote: .... And why point them at the ground instead of just disabling them in the control unit ? I assume that they are motorised and simply droop when not powered. Dunno, all the motorised ones that I have looked at stay where the last where when not powered. In other words the motor moves them it doesn’t have to be powered to stay in a position. Stepper motor etc. If they are not in use yet, it could be something as simple as that is the orientation they had when taken out of the box. -- Colin Bignell |
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 22:55:39 -0700 (PDT), harry wrote:
Maybe they are cameras and left pointing down to keep rain/snow/dirt off the lenses when not in use. Don't see any sign of a remote pan/tilt head. -- Cheers Dave. |
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![]() "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 22:06, Rod Speed wrote: "nightjar" wrote in message ... On 24/10/2019 18:47, Rod Speed wrote: ... And why point them at the ground instead of just disabling them in the control unit ? I assume that they are motorised and simply droop when not powered. Dunno, all the motorised ones that I have looked at stay where the last where when not powered. In other words the motor moves them it doesn’t have to be powered to stay in a position. Stepper motor etc. If they are not in use yet, it could be something as simple as that is the orientation they had when taken out of the box. Surely someone would have checked that they do track when told to, tho I spose some ultra anal 'person' like Dense could have parked them tidily after doing that. |
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 05:30:27 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Surely someone would have checked that they do track when told to, tho I spose some ultra anal 'person' like Dense could have parked them tidily after doing that. People ALWAYS forget to ask YOU first, if they got a question about something, eh, senile Rodent? You ALWAYS have ALL the answer! What a ridiculous senile asshole! LOL -- Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 85-year-old trolling senile cretin from Oz: https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 25/10/2019 10:54, whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:58:43 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ARW wrote: On 24/10/2019 19:29, NY wrote: "Dave Liquorice" wrote in message idual.net... On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 16:27:23 +0100, NY wrote: In a village near me there is a lamp-post in a 30 mph zone which has a rectangular metal "tube" about 1 foot long by 6" square which is pointing straight down at the road surface by the post. There is also another device alongside, again pointing at the road. Curious, my guess would a county council road surface monitor (temperature, wet/ice/snow) or a traffic monitor, with vehical size and speed. The old rubber tube over the road things really only count axles Any clues given by the label on the "control" box? When I next go past I'll try to drive slowly (without looking as if I'm Burglar Bill casing the joint!) and see what the wording says. I noticed it and hoped my dashcam would pick it up legibly, but no hope! Just stop the car, get out and take close up photos. It's still a free country. Wear a hi viz and anyone watching you will just assume you are meant to be there. You forgot the hard hat and the clipboard! I once walked into a Army Camp with this stuff, straight past the soldier with a gun. Are you sure it was a gun in his pocket or was he just pleased to see you ;-) They tend to be rifles not hand guns these days. Big pockets or well endowed? And yes the apprentice did ask me when we went into Marne Barracks "Are they real guns?" FFS. -- Adam |
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