I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Mount it in Linux and hope that can see the drive properly.

You may already have damaged it by trying to allow Win10 to write to it.
A write protect switch is very handy when doing data recovery.


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On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Boot a live linux CD and use better tools

Out of iunterest why are you usin an enclosure? isn't it easier to link
the sata cables to your motherboard?


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On 27/08/2019 13:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to
be initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Boot a live linux CD and use better tools

Out of iunterest why are you usin an enclosure?Â* isn't it easier to link
the sata cables to your motherboard?


Will try Linux if I can find a CD. Using an enclosure as position of
computer israther restricted. Enclosure has a slip on lid that makes it
easy to change disk.
thanks for your input.
Iain

On 27/08/2019 12:55, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to
be initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Mount it in Linux and hope that can see the drive properly.

You may already have damaged it by trying to allow Win10 to write to it.
A write protect switch is very handy when doing data recovery.


Will try Linux if I can find a CD.
Thanks for your input.
Iain

"Iain" wrote in message ...
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be initialised,
but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Short answer. Are you sure the old SATA drives are NTFS and not in fact
FAT 32 ?

Googling "Win 10" and "FAT32" may answer your question and offer some
possible solutions assuming Linux doesn't do the trick. Which it may well
do, for all I know.

You're fortunate WIN10 refused to initialise the drives as that really would have
been curtains.


michael adams

....

On 27/08/2019 15:05, Iain wrote:
On 27/08/2019 12:55, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to
be initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Mount it in Linux and hope that can see the drive properly.

You may already have damaged it by trying to allow Win10 to write to it.
A write protect switch is very handy when doing data recovery.


Will try Linux if I can find a CD.
Thanks for oadDownload and burn one.



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On 27/08/2019 15:04, Iain wrote:
Will try Linux if I can find a CD.

You can make a bootable USB stick. It'll probably boot faster too.

Andy

Iain wrote

I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)
sees the disk but says it needs to be initialised,

Thats saying that it looks like it isnt formatted.

but trying to initialise as MBR fails.

Likely because that drive has died.

Any ideas as to how to procede?

If it has died, you're stuffed.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Boot a live linux CD and use better tools

Out of iunterest why are you usin an enclosure? isn't it easier to link
the sata cables to your motherboard?

Much easier to drop the drive(s) into a docking station and plug that into a
USB3 port.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:50:45 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


If it has died, you're stuffed.

YOU get stuffed, senile troll from Oz!

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On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 08:59:01 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


Boot a live linux CD and use better tools

Out of iunterest why are you usin an enclosure? isn't it easier to link
the sata cables to your motherboard?

Much easier to drop the drive(s) into a docking station and plug that into a
USB3 port.

Unless his USB port doesn't cope with it, senile idiot!

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"michael adams" mjadams25@ukonline wrote in message
o.uk...

"Iain" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Short answer. Are you sure the old SATA drives are NTFS and not in fact
FAT 32 ?

Win10 sees fat32 drives fine.

Googling "Win 10" and "FAT32" may answer your question and offer some
possible solutions assuming Linux doesn't do the trick. Which it may well
do, for all I know.

You're fortunate WIN10 refused to initialise the drives as that really
would have
been curtains.

Yes Windows always attempts to plonk one of its .ini files on the disc and
this can corrupt them.
I've had similar problems with usb to ide on windows 7, yet it works on xp.
I'm thinking maybe the wrong driver is being used. Also make sure, if the
interface is capable to use one of the usb3 ports or you will be there for
the duration!

Brian

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"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Mount it in Linux and hope that can see the drive properly.

You may already have damaged it by trying to allow Win10 to write to it.
A write protect switch is very handy when doing data recovery.


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Regards,
Martin Brown

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:11:19 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Short answer. Are you sure the old SATA drives are NTFS and not in fact
FAT 32 ?

Win10 sees fat32 drives fine.

Let's hope people see what an asshole you are, senile Rodent!

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On 27/08/2019 13:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to
be initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Boot a live linux CD and use better tools


You are the second person to mention CD, are you sure he should boot off
a floppy.

Why don't people use USB sticks? I haven't had a CD for a decade.

On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Thanks all for the suggestions. Turns out that the drives were
paperwieghts. I put a known good drive in the enclosure and it worked.

Iain

Brian Gaff wrote

Yes Windows always attempts to plonk one of its .ini files on the disc

No it does not.

and this can corrupt them.

No it can not. Its just a file.

I've had similar problems with usb to ide on windows 7, yet it works on
xp. I'm thinking maybe the wrong driver is being used.

There is no driver involved.

Also make sure, if the interface is capable to use one of the usb3 ports
or you will be there for the duration!

That’s not true either. I used it with usb2 for a long time
before usb3 showed up.


"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 27/08/2019 12:45, Iain wrote:
I'm trying to read some old SATA drives using a Liteon Ultra enclosure.
windows disk management (Win10 Pro)sees the disk but says it needs to be
initialised, but trying to initialise as MBR fails.
Any ideas as to how to procede?
TIA Iain

Mount it in Linux and hope that can see the drive properly.

You may already have damaged it by trying to allow Win10 to write to it.
A write protect switch is very handy when doing data recovery.


--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 06:20:35 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH troll****

NOBODY giving you any feedback in this thread again, but you KEEP posting
and trolling, right, senile cretin? It's ALL you got in your senile "life"!
LOL

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