I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

On 2019-06-07 11:11 a.m., Murmansk wrote:
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

build your own

just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

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On 2019-06-07 11:11 a.m., Murmansk wrote:
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

build your own


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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

One pound a tub .... you can have one in each cludgy I have four on the go
and certainly not buying four Japanese cludges...and you can get it in a
small tubes for traveling .......most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes...disgusting.....

wonder how many people have been electrocuted by one of them? ......are men
more at risk than wummin' ? ......

when I was handing out kooncil grants for the installation of the standard
amenities in the late 70's and early 80's only one wummin ever installed a
bidet .......we thought she was dead posh .....

Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons). But
not cheap.

https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t...et.com-en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

--

Roger Hayter

Roger Hayter wrote:

Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons). But
not cheap.

https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t...er_toilet.com-
en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

PS The latest Sensowash claims to comply with the German water regs
without an external air gap, hence not needing a header tank. But I
can't find out how they claim to comply. And the UK regs imply that
for automatic building control approval they have got to be an
individually appproved type by the particular local water board (ok,
that's not what their called). If an individual plumber/BCO refused to
agree that it was compliant despite not being type-approved you could
take them the ECJ demanding equal treatment to the Germans, but Brexit
will close that avenue.
Some might think it simpler to dispense with Building Regs approval, but
don't tell anyone I did that.

--

Roger Hayter

Murmansk wrote:
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!




Im not entirely convinced the Japanese toilets are that hygienic- too many
nooks and crannies in the design with all the bits that move around in the
ones Ive seen.

A normal bidet, while requiring more space, is easier to keep clean- as is
the normal toilet.



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faith European Socialism" Mosley "My Life" autobiography 1957.

On Friday, 7 June 2019 21:10:57 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

I can't see the council letting me have a 3 storey water tower on the roof.

Although it would be about the only way I could get terrestrial television.

Owain

wrote:

On Friday, 7 June 2019 21:10:57 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

I can't see the council letting me have a 3 storey water tower on the roof.

Although it would be about the only way I could get terrestrial television.

Owain

A pump is an alternative; still hardly a convenient solution.

--

Roger Hayter

On 07/06/2019 21:54, Roger Hayter wrote:
wrote:

On Friday, 7 June 2019 21:10:57 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

I can't see the council letting me have a 3 storey water tower on the roof.

Although it would be about the only way I could get terrestrial television.

Owain

A pump is an alternative; still hardly a convenient solution.

Why cant they be used on mains pressure hot water systems?


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too dark to read.

Groucho Marx

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

One pound a tub .... you can have one in each cludgy I have four on the go
and certainly not buying four Japanese cludges...and you can get it in a
small tubes for traveling .......most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes...disgusting.....

Not just the UK. The author of that famous chinese memoir
got a bit of a brain fade when she stood up in front of a full
auditorium of gweilos and the thought occurred to her about
all those dirty arseholes out there in front of her.

In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes

most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes

It is the people who need training. Out of bed, drink tea, dump,
shower. Job done, clean bum. Repeat daily.

--
Graeme

On Friday, 7 June 2019 21:19:29 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:

Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons). But
not cheap.

https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t...er_toilet.com-
en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

PS The latest Sensowash claims to comply with the German water regs
without an external air gap, hence not needing a header tank. But I
can't find out how they claim to comply. And the UK regs imply that
for automatic building control approval they have got to be an
individually appproved type by the particular local water board (ok,
that's not what their called). If an individual plumber/BCO refused to


Probably fitted with double non-return valves in the water supply.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

One pound a tub .... you can have one in each cludgy I have four on the
go and certainly not buying four Japanese cludges...and you can get it in
a small tubes for traveling .......most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes...disgusting.....

Not just the UK. The author of that famous chinese memoir
got a bit of a brain fade when she stood up in front of a full
auditorium of gweilos and the thought occurred to her about
all those dirty arseholes out there in front of her.
worse than just thinking about the audience naked ....

"Graeme" wrote in message
...
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes

most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes

It is the people who need training. Out of bed, drink tea, dump, shower.
Job done, clean bum. Repeat daily.

I shower once a week if I need it or not...tee hee

"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...
Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons). But
not cheap.

https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t...et.com-en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

are you sure a bidet was in my day classed as a waste appliance not a foul
appliance ? ....

They are interesting and have been around for a good many years, indeed back
in the days of the Ideal Home Exhibitions, I can remember several companies
trying to get them established here. Probably quite crude in those days they
never seemed to catch on here.


Of course you can get bling for toilets, like cisterns that have lcd screens
with swimming fish or illuminated and heated/padded seats, etc, but these
are just gimmicks unless you are double jointed or spend ours on the loo.
I'm sure a mobile phone saving system might be popular.
Brian

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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

I think we worry far too much about his though. You can get obsessed after
all much of the fouling occurs when you are going about your normal life not
on the toilet. After all all of us fart, and most of the time some leakage
occurs as we do, Likewise the plumbing for urine tends to have some small
bits left after you finish and this can seep out some time later. Short of
some mechanical device fitted I do not see any way out of this.
Thus perhaps the cleaning on a Japanese toilet is a little late by the time
it occurs, maybe a pair of disposable paper pants each time you go might be
better.
Brian

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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
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"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

One pound a tub .... you can have one in each cludgy I have four on the
go and certainly not buying four Japanese cludges...and you can get it in
a small tubes for traveling .......most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes...disgusting.....

Not just the UK. The author of that famous chinese memoir
got a bit of a brain fade when she stood up in front of a full
auditorium of gweilos and the thought occurred to her about
all those dirty arseholes out there in front of her.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
They are interesting and have been around for a good many years, indeed
back in the days of the Ideal Home Exhibitions, I can remember several
companies trying to get them established here. Probably quite crude in
those days they never seemed to catch on here.


Of course you can get bling for toilets, like cisterns that have lcd
screens with swimming fish or illuminated and heated/padded seats, etc,
but these are just gimmicks unless you are double jointed or spend ours on
the loo. I'm sure a mobile phone saving system might be popular.
Brian

if you ****e like a seagull you spend little time in there .......

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
I think we worry far too much about his though. You can get obsessed after
all much of the fouling occurs when you are going about your normal life
not on the toilet. After all all of us fart, and most of the time some
leakage occurs as we do, Likewise the plumbing for urine tends to have some
small bits left after you finish and this can seep out some time later.
Short of some mechanical device fitted I do not see any way out of this.
Thus perhaps the cleaning on a Japanese toilet is a little late by the
time it occurs, maybe a pair of disposable paper pants each time you go
might be better.
Brian

rubber...Mmmmmmmmm

On Saturday, 8 June 2019 07:36:04 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
are you sure a bidet was in my day classed as a waste appliance not a foul
appliance ? ....


Depends if it has ordinary taps above the rim (like a basin) or a spray wotsit below the rim.

Owain

On Friday, 7 June 2019 19:11:13 UTC+1, Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

I daresay they're the way of the future, but having seen the inner workings of the Japanese ones I would not install them on safety grounds. There is no separation of perishable insecure plumbing & electrics at all.


NT

Murmansk laid this down on his screen :
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing toilets
that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if anyone
has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops there
and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the minimum
will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

Last time this subject came up, someone mentioned a cheap gadget on
ebay, which could be added to a UK toilet. It used cold water.

On 07/06/2019 19:11, Murmansk wrote:
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!


it's a shame Huge no longer posts here, he researched this and I think
installed one

AJH

On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 15:12:43 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Not just the UK. The author of that famous chinese memoir
got a bit of a brain fade when she stood up in front of a full
auditorium of gweilos and the thought occurred to her about
all those dirty arseholes out there in front of her.

Now ALSO an expert in anal hygiene, you dirty senile asshole? Is there
ANYTHING in this big world you are NOT an expert in? ANYTHING? tsk

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

harry wrote:

On Friday, 7 June 2019 21:19:29 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
Roger Hayter wrote:

Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their
amazing toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local
shops there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it
looks like the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons).
But not cheap.

https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t..._shower_toilet.
com- en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

PS The latest Sensowash claims to comply with the German water regs
without an external air gap, hence not needing a header tank. But I
can't find out how they claim to comply. And the UK regs imply that
for automatic building control approval they have got to be an
individually appproved type by the particular local water board (ok,
that's not what their called). If an individual plumber/BCO refused to


Probably fitted with double non-return valves in the water supply.

Not adequate for category 5 pollution risk according to WRAS.

--

Roger Hayter

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 07/06/2019 21:54, Roger Hayter wrote:
wrote:

On Friday, 7 June 2019 21:10:57 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

I can't see the council letting me have a 3 storey water tower on the roof.

Although it would be about the only way I could get terrestrial television.

Owain

A pump is an alternative; still hardly a convenient solution.

Why cant they be used on mains pressure hot water systems?

Do you mean pumps or toilets can't be used? Spray bidets can't be used
on mains pressure because there is a requirement for an air gap in the
supply.

--

Roger Hayter

Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...
Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons). But
not cheap.


https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t...wer_toilet.com
-en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

are you sure a bidet was in my day classed as a waste appliance not a foul
appliance ? ....

Two kinds of bidet. Rim washing ones are ok with a double check valve.
Spray ones are category five foul backflow risks and require an air gap.
No idea if the rules are the same in Scotland. Didn't you normally let
plumbers certify their own work? Not all of them know what they are
doing.

--

Roger Hayter

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"Roger Hayter" wrote in message
...
Murmansk wrote:

I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like
the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

There are German ones which are pretty solid, Duravit Sensowash is the
one I fitted. They are well engineered and slightly bigger than the
Japanese ones (which are made to fit generallys smaller persons). But
not cheap.

https://www.duravit.co.uk/products/t...et.com-en.html

A caveat with all spray bidets is that you can (for practical purposes)
only comply with the WRAS regs by giving it its own separate header
tank, at least 10m above the toilet in the case of the Sensowash.

are you sure a bidet was in my day classed as a waste appliance not a foul
appliance ? ....

The ones your parked your lard arse on where certainly
classed as foul appliances after you had done that, haggis.

Brian Gaff wrote

I think we worry far too much about his though.

His what?

You can get obsessed after all much of the fouling occurs when you are
going about your normal life not on the toilet. After all all of us fart,
and most of the time some leakage occurs as we do,

Nope, that is one of those miracles of evolution, like the eye.

Arses don5 leak when you fart unless you have been gorging on curry or
haggis.

Likewise the plumbing for urine tends to have some small bits left after
you finish and this can seep out some time later.

Speak for yourself.

Short of some mechanical device fitted I do not see any way out of this.

The Japs have.

Thus perhaps the cleaning on a Japanese toilet is a little late by the
time it occurs, maybe a pair of disposable paper pants each time you go
might be better.

Only for you leaky geriatrics. Bullet in the back of
the neck is much more effective and much cheaper.

"Rod Speed" wrote
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
just keep a tub or tube of Aqueous Cream handy and save all that
money.........

One pound a tub .... you can have one in each cludgy I have four on the
go and certainly not buying four Japanese cludges...and you can get it
in a small tubes for traveling .......most of the UK walks about with
dirty arseholes...disgusting.....

Not just the UK. The author of that famous chinese memoir
got a bit of a brain fade when she stood up in front of a full
auditorium of gweilos and the thought occurred to her about
all those dirty arseholes out there in front of her.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
...
Murmansk laid this down on his screen :
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like the
minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!

Last time this subject came up, someone mentioned a cheap gadget on ebay,
which could be added to a UK toilet. It used cold water.

And that's why hardly any were silly enough to buy it and no one used it
when they were silly enough to buy it.

"Graeme" wrote in message
...
In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes

most of the UK walks about with dirty
arseholes

It is the people who need training. Out of bed, drink tea, dump, shower.
Job done, clean bum. Repeat daily.

Everyone knows you lot keep the coal in the bath and only have
a shower once a year whether you need it or not.

AJH wrote:

On 07/06/2019 19:11, Murmansk wrote:
I've just returned from Japan and have been inspired by their amazing
toilets that wash your nether regions!

I've searched on here and not found much recent but I'm wondering if
anyone has any thoughts or recent experience of fitting one here?

Toto Washlet seem to be the major name there. I looked in local shops
there and prices seemed to start at about £250 but here it looks like
the minimum will be £1,000 up to £10,000!!!!


it's a shame Huge no longer posts here, he researched this and I think
installed one

AJH

So did I. It would be interesting to compare conclusions.

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On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 19:30:49 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Only for you leaky geriatrics. Bullet in the back of
the neck is much more effective and much cheaper.

How OFTEN did you have to hear that line already, you incontinent
85-year-old senile pest? Eh? BG

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"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
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On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 20:15:13 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


It is the people who need training. Out of bed, drink tea, dump, shower.
Job done, clean bum. Repeat daily.

Everyone knows you lot keep the coal in the bath and only have
a shower once a year whether you need it or not.

Everyone knows that you are a lonely psychopathic senile TROLL, senile
Rodent!

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"I was involved in the design of a computer OS"
MID:

On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 19:18:27 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

are you sure a bidet was in my day classed as a waste appliance not a foul
appliance ? ....

The ones your parked your lard arse on where certainly
classed as foul appliances after you had done that, haggis.

Stop talking out of your leaking senile arse, senile Ozzie troll!

--
Richard addressing Rot Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

Only for you leaky geriatrics. Bullet in the back of
the neck is much more effective and much cheaper.

heal thyself then.....